KingCheezyPuff:
°•I didn't change anything
... I've said that from the first
You where just so caught up on not spending money
You honed in on that an overlooked/dismissed everything else.
Oh! An projected.

Yre I want his time an attention I also want to be ed taken out
An given nice things
But I do understand that it's not my right
Nir a man's job to furnish those things
But then I like dating men who are generous with me an give me those things anyway

MRBrownJ:


come on, its too late to try to play "holy"...... the undercover ashawo STAIN is all over your posts!

if time/attention is part of the "supposed" investment you are talking about, then since you are there too, YOU are "investing" just as much as he does, since you are both giving each other time/attention when going on a date, not just him. what you wrote about wanting a man to INVEST/SPEND in you has absolutely nothing to do with "time/attention"... get real. if you go on a date then you are BOTH investing time/attention, regardless of who is paying. would you go on a date with a man that you dont want to spend time/attention with?!

stop digging a bigger hole for yourself, we all know what your whole aim is (aka the wallet, gifts, handouts etc)

°•Haha!
I've only been repeating what I've always said/thought
....Hoping you'll finally pay it mind!

Ewatomi26:
So we go on a date and its time to pay and he looks at me and says can you foot the bill... He know my capacity financially, he knows I can afford it, that why he can say so, so I pay... But when he know I can't afford it and he says such, I would simply tell him what I have then he would balance it up.

My girlfriends and I, have a rule, you don't go out on a date, with out having nothing less than 2k, in hand... So when some guy, wants to fall your hand... You can still lift your head high.

Kherry:
I wil surely pay for d 1st date,bt trust me not d second

Mypeople2:
You ladies can't do this simple thing yet you want equality with men

MRBrownJ:
ok, let us recapitulate

MBJ comes to this thread and says that men should NOT pay for restaurants etc and instead should spend TIME and give ATTENTION to women by going to free places and walk hand in hand.
isnt this time and attention enough or are we missing something?!

MBJ states further that what we all get out of this (in part) is some good ol' sex, which is beneficial to both men and women, therefore money is irrelevant here

KingCheezyPuff (aka KCP) replies by asking the following question: "you tellin' me you want ta have sex with a woman but you don't want to INVEST in her? That's what you do when you take the time to date her well, taking her to nice places Giving her love gifts outta yer love
we can clearly understand that TIME/ATTENTION isnt her focus here, if it was then spending free time in the park would be good enough for her. what she desires is "nice things", gifts/handouts etc. thats whats gonna make her value the guy. so in reality, time and attention is irrelevant here, if there aint bling bling attached to it

MBJ further states that many women out there FOOLISHLY believe that the minute they are dating a guy, they think they are "worthy" of their partner's money.
normally if a man spends time with a woman and give her attention, then it doesnt matter if he spends money on her or not... RIGHT sista KCP?!

wrong!!!! as KCP then wrote that she wants to know that he does consider her to be as vauable as the dollars in his wallet
...That he would spend on her.
so what we can deduct AGAIN is that, as much as time and attention is nice, unless there is MONEY, it is irrelevant. let us not fool ourselves here, MONEY is the main ingredient, and without it there will be no value to this man

so then MBJ says that she is no better than a prostitute if MONEY is the factor that will determine whether she values a guy or not.

now KCP comes back and says that Investing in the start of dating is to be done 1st by the asker, and that this person must prepare his wallet. time etc
here we can clearly understand AGAIN that the investing she is referring to is a FINANCIAL one, since she already told us that time is irrelevant without money

so MBJ says that NO money/gifts/handouts should be exchanged for sex and that "if a prostitute is a woman who will have sex for money, and you women only value (and thus sleep with) a man after he has spent money on you gals, WHAT DOES THAT MAKE OF YOU?!"
which is a fair deduction... if you need "investing" then you are an ashawo, right?!

then KCP try to lie through her teeth by saying that Whether you take her to a park or a restaurant yer working up into something (whatever it may come to), and That's simply all she meant by INVEST.
ahahahahaha what a turnaround!!!!! we all know she is LYING as she clearly stated TWICE already that time/attention without money isnt good enough, and there needs to be gifts and handouts (aka wallet activities), before a man can be valued

so MBJ point it out to her, and shows her the post where she clearly stated that "NO money NO honey"

now KCP come back and tell us all that she is a virgin of holy baby jesus

as if it is relevant to this discussion... i guess she wants to distance herself from the ashawo views she's had

to which MBJ replies that the ashawo syndrome is in the head, the body is just the tool used to degrade yourselves, and whether virgin or not, she already got the syndrome

so sista KCP comes back and "now" says that ONLY time/attention is a MUST, money isnt a must any longer... but simply that she "also" likes to be taken out, and given nice things, because it isnt her right nor a mans duty to provide for such.... but she likes dating generous men sha
BWAAAAH is that not what i have been saying all along?! that gal must have split personality, who am i talking to now?
given nice things?! WHAT FOR... if not to value a man before sex?!

ET VOILA, we finally agree that what MBJ has been saying all along is right aka: ONLY TIME AND ATTENTION IS A MUST

°•Brown J
Take ya wahali an go!!! .
...I got ta get off this thread for I reach my 100th year!!

EgunMogaji:

Iyabo, certainly won't but Mama Iyabo definitely will.
After all na who dey give am face at all

MRBrownJ:
ok, let us recapitulate

MBJ comes to this thread and says that men should NOT pay for restaurants etc and instead should spend TIME and give ATTENTION to women by going to free places and walk hand in hand.
isnt this time and attention enough or are we missing something?!

MBJ states further that what we all get out of this (in part) is some good ol' sex, which is beneficial to both men and women, therefore money is irrelevant here

KingCheezyPuff (aka KCP) replies by asking the following question: "you tellin' me you want ta have sex with a woman but you don't want to INVEST in her? That's what you do when you take the time to date her well, taking her to nice places Giving her love gifts outta yer love
we can clearly understand that TIME/ATTENTION isnt her focus here, if it was then spending free time in the park would be good enough for her. what she desires is "nice things", gifts/handouts etc. thats whats gonna make her value the guy. so in reality, time and attention is irrelevant here, if there aint bling bling attached to it

MBJ further states that many women out there FOOLISHLY believe that the minute they are dating a guy, they think they are "worthy" of their partner's money.
normally if a man spends time with a woman and give her attention, then it doesnt matter if he spends money on her or not... RIGHT sista KCP?!

wrong!!!! as KCP then wrote that she wants to know that he does consider her to be as vauable as the dollars in his wallet
...That he would spend on her.
so what we can deduct AGAIN is that, as much as time and attention is nice, unless there is MONEY, it is irrelevant. let us not fool ourselves here, MONEY is the main ingredient, and without it there will be no value to this man

so then MBJ says that she is no better than a prostitute if MONEY is the factor that will determine whether she values a guy or not.

now KCP comes back and says that Investing in the start of dating is to be done 1st by the asker, and that this person must prepare his wallet. time etc
here we can clearly understand AGAIN that the investing she is referring to is a FINANCIAL one, since she already told us that time is irrelevant without money

so MBJ says that NO money/gifts/handouts should be exchanged for sex and that "if a prostitute is a woman who will have sex for money, and you women only value (and thus sleep with) a man after he has spent money on you gals, WHAT DOES THAT MAKE OF YOU?!"
which is a fair deduction... if you need "investing" then you are an ashawo, right?!

then KCP try to lie through her teeth by saying that Whether you take her to a park or a restaurant yer working up into something (whatever it may come to), and That's simply all she meant by INVEST.
ahahahahaha what a turnaround!!!!! we all know she is LYING as she clearly stated TWICE already that time/attention without money isnt good enough, and there needs to be gifts and handouts (aka wallet activities), before a man can be valued

so MBJ point it out to her, and shows her the post where she clearly stated that "NO money NO honey"

now KCP come back and tell us all that she is a virgin of holy baby jesus

as if it is relevant to this discussion... i guess she wants to distance herself from the ashawo views she's had

to which MBJ replies that the ashawo syndrome is in the head, the body is just the tool used to degrade yourselves, and whether virgin or not, she already got the syndrome

so sista KCP comes back and "now" says that ONLY time/attention is a MUST, money isnt a must any longer... but simply that she "also" likes to be taken out, and given nice things, because it isnt her right nor a mans duty to provide for such.... but she likes dating generous men sha
BWAAAAH is that not what i have been saying all along?! that gal must have split personality, who am i talking to now?
given nice things?! WHAT FOR... if not to value a man before sex?!

ET VOILA, we finally agree that what MBJ has been saying all along is right aka: ONLY TIME AND ATTENTION IS A MUST

johnson232:

@bold u will have....
why would u go on a date with an empty pocket?

its dicey decision...

Ayeesharh:
I'll pay if i have and friend zone him

Ayeesharh:
I'll pay if i have and friend zone him

Titilayooni:
GBAM#endofstory# first impression lasts longer

Jamean:

Vex money
cc therealadonye

Bamz:

Where do you stay?

Ewatomi26:



Vex money, how ?... you have lost me here ooo... And who is thereal.adonye

Kherry:




Do u want to cum for visitin? :-

Tallesty1:
First dates happen in my room so nobody pays for anything.

Ewatomi26:
So mister MBJ, define attention... What comes along with attention... What do you mean by attention

MRBrownJ:


spending TIME with someone is easy, you just have to show up, but the ATTENTION is all the content (aka important valuable things that you do during this time), so i could:
[b]- go out of my way to meet and spend time with you
- walking hand in hand showing the world that you are my woman
- putting my hands around you, hug and making you feel secure while watching a movie (yeah bring your lappy to the park)
- making you laugh to break the "possible" ice between us, and help you relax around me
- open up to you and being honest about who i am, in order for you to have a full picture of me, and hopefully helping you opening up to me too
- compliment you by telling you how beautiful you are, how great i feel around you, how lucky i feel around you, even how sexy you are etc so that you may feel comfortable around me
- listening to what you like, hobbies etc so that we may do something related to it during our future dates
- listen to any worries you may have and helping you the best i can to ADVISE you right
- if you have money issues, advise you on how to get a job or how to manage your finances better
- be a gentleman by opening door etc
- give you a shoulder massage if you say you are tired after work
- engage in conversations when away from you, via text/phone calls etc, enquiring about you, your day, your friends, your plans for the week etc
- cook you one of my favourite meal, and having you around me as i prepare the dish (everyone's gotta eat, right?)[/b]

and the beautiful thing about all the above is that no "extra" money is needed, and it can all be done FOR FREE (yeah cooking that meal too)

@rman @SlickM @sauceEEP @Tallesty1
thanks but sadly, one of the problem with some of these women failed state of mind is that many of us guys are gladly accepting their blackmail as the way of dating today, while it aint.

Ewatomi26:
Well stated MBJ... Now have ever thought off this, not all guys have the ability to "pay attention" and in order not to loss their lady, they go the extra mile... You stated about making her laugh, how many guys have this ability to make a lady laugh, so therefore they take them to comedy shows, so as to see their lady laugh... You stated watching movies on a laptop, cool idea, but you know many guys fall asleep while doing this, and I tell, it an insult to your partner to fall asleep while doing such, because you are meant to be paying attention, so some men would rather take their lady to the cinema... You also stated cooking for her, what happens to those men, that can't cook, taking her to a restaurant(affordable) would not be a bad idea... You stated hobbies... Let say one of her hobbies is reading novel, would it not be nice when you buy one or two books for once in a while.

There are some thing that require little spending, which won't hurt his pocket... Not because its her right, but because you want to pay proper attention to her.

MRBrownJ:


yes, you are absolutely RIGHT, but the important point here is that these guys decide "on their own" to do such act, it comes from their own free will due to the mood they are trying to set, because the BELIEVE that it is the right thing to do, and NOT because some woman blackmailed them into doing so.

that is the whole difference in this discussion, the majority of women here believe they deserve to be wine and dined just because they accepted to go on a date (which is beneficial to BOTH of them) and, as many have said here already, they will dismiss the guy if he remotely ask them to contribute to the date (which is beneficial to BOTH of them).

remember, i just gave you many instance where you can give TIME and ATTENTION to women for free, and that doesnt mean that this is what a man has to do for the rest of that r/ship. as i always said, a woman can get a gift/helping hand etc, so long as a man believes she DESERVES one, and not as a down payment/rent for her to stay in that said r/ship (aka blackmail).

Bamz:

Lol...I have some free time

Ewatomi26:
You are also, mister MBJ... I also like to state at this point, that there is a difference between RIGHTS and DESERVES... The man has the right not to or to pay but the woman deserves the man to pay for her, just courtesy...Everyone know how they want to be treated, and they deserve to be treated so and they feel less, when someone treats them below their standard... And they have no choice than to opt out..

So you don't blame ladies that tell you they would never see such guy again, after treating them below their standard. Its just what they have set for themselves.

Kherry:







Lol....Am schoolin in ekiti

Bamz:

Nothing is impossible

MRBrownJ:


BWAAAAAAH!!!!!! hell noooooo! the woman has the RIGHT to demand that she be treated in any way she desires BUT, until that man has confirmed that this lady DESERVES to be treated in such a way, there is NO reason he should treat her the way this lady desires. that would be as crazy as treating a classless lady with respect when she acts as a tramp. women need to act RIGHT if they want to be treated RIGHT, and until then, it should be 50/50 (IMHO)

what you wrote above is the reason why so many women (who are uninterested in a guy) will still go out with him, in order to get free meals, and more, for her and her hungry friends... under the guise of "how men should treat women", BLASPHEMY!



a man should treat a woman the way he (and his own mind) BELIEVES she should be treated. there is no world chart that specifies how to treat women because you are all different, and therefore it should be decided on each case basis.... so if a man believes a woman aint worth a meal "yet", thats his RIGHT... just like it is your right to dismiss a guy who want you to go dutch.
if women want to be treated RIGHT then they must act RIGHT, and sadly, simply accepting to go on a date isnt it!