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Re: Mispronunciation Of Muslim Names by Newnas(m): 12:24pm On May 13, 2016
eitsei:
I Even the OP sef mispelt my name is Hanbali not Hambal.... Hanbali حنبلي.... There is ن and not م after the first letter

Its a great fortune that Allah blessed you with parents that were foresighted and wise enough to know the importance of Islamic knowledge especially for a female child. You owe them a lot, I ask Allah to make it easy for you to be grateful for this mercy.

As for your name, it wasn't mispelt. in Arabic language when nuun that has sukuun preceedes the letter ba, the nuun is to be pronounced as meem not nuun anymore. This is what the scholars of tajweed call iqlaab or qalb (transformation or change).

If you pick up your Quran and check the following verse :

Surah Ash-Shams, Verse 12:
إِذِ انبَعَثَ أَشْقَاهَا

When the most wicked man among them went forth (to kill the she-camel).
(English - Mohsin Khan)

via iQuran

You will find a small written above the letter nuun showing that you should do qalb.

Allah knows best.

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Re: Mispronunciation Of Muslim Names by Jarus(m): 12:25pm On May 13, 2016
My name na number one on your list. Lol.

Meanwhile, I see no big deal in the corruption of the names. Yoruba corrupts anything, not just Muslim names.Try as much as possible to correct people that mispronounce your name, but no need to fight or quarrel with anyone over it.

After all, some people prefer the corrupted version. I had a lecturer in the university who told Muslim brothers not to call him Dhikrullah, that he is Sikiru. And he is a Muslim.

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Re: Mispronunciation Of Muslim Names by jayceeabdulwasiu(m): 12:26pm On May 13, 2016
mzteemarh:
I have tried to stopped people several times from calling me fatty instead of fatimah.
Even my dad is quilty of this, but what kind I do

Fatty, Pele ma binu. cheesy grin angry angry grin

Forgive everybody including daddy.

I called my cousin fatty bombom
Re: Mispronunciation Of Muslim Names by Newnas(m): 12:31pm On May 13, 2016
Comanche:
Jazhakaalahu khaeran op.I had always thought suliyat and zulhaikho were different names. People are also fond of adding the suffix 'u' to feminine names i.e aminatu,idayatu.I cant forget the look on my brother's face whenever he is reffered to as 'sule'.

Aameen wa iyyaak.
AlhamduliLlah for the clarification of the names.

The adding of u to the names is because the u is actually there but the Arabs don't pronounce the last vowel of the word. So they simply say Aminah.
But natural Yoruba speakers will find it hard to pronounce a cluster of consonants or to to end a word without a vowel sound. So, they pronounce the last vowel.

The best solution to this is to ensure that we see proper Islamic education and also make sure our children don't suffer the ignorance we have suffered.

Allah knows best.
Re: Mispronunciation Of Muslim Names by hahn(m): 12:49pm On May 13, 2016
eitsei:
newly reverted Muslims ask, should they change their names?
The answer is that they should not change their names except in the following situations:
• If the name is forbidden in Islam. For example, if the name implies worshipping other than Allah like Abdush-Shams (slave of the sun), Abdun-Nabi (slave of the Prophet), Abdul-Maseeh (slave of the Christ), etc. Also, if the name symbolizes idols like Naelah, Hubal or Buddha, then it must be changed immediately.
• If the name is typical of the non-believers like Botros, John, Diana, Suzanne or Victoria, then a Muslim should stay away from these names.
• If the name praises oneself, as in the case of Barrah (pious), the Prophet, sallallahu alayhe wa sallam, changed it to Zainab and said, "Do not praise yourself. Allah knows the pious ones more than you do." (Muslim)
• If the name has a bad meaning like the names of animals such as Faar (mouse), Kalb (dog), Hanash (snake). Or pronounced badly in another language such as Tom (many pronounce it Toom, which sounds like garlic in Arabic).
If the non-Muslim name is like one of the above then it must be changed to a good Muslim name, one that is desirable in Islam. For example Abdurrahman, Abdullah, any of the Prophets' names, the companions names, the wives of the Prophet, allallahu alayhe wa sallam, or his daughters.
It should be taken into consideration that only the first name is changed and not the father's name no matter how bad it is. In the Day of Judgment, people will be called by their fathers' names.
[size=30pt]I can't remember any of the verses of the Quran that supports it... [/size] Cc hahn

So where did you get this list from? undecided
Re: Mispronunciation Of Muslim Names by Newnas(m): 1:07pm On May 13, 2016
ybalogs:
There are names that don't take Abdul and some that does. This is mostly confusing. We all know all the 99 names of Allah must come with an 'Abdul' before them but of of the names that shows the attributes of Allah but not in the 99 names?

please mention an example of such names
Re: Mispronunciation Of Muslim Names by Newnas(m): 1:09pm On May 13, 2016
hahn:


List some "bad names" and explain why you think they are bad or point out where in the Quran that name is regarded as bad

Please see tasmiyatul maolud by Sheikh Bakr Abu Zayd

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Re: Mispronunciation Of Muslim Names by Newnas(m): 1:12pm On May 13, 2016
Jarus:
My name na number one on your list. Lol.

Meanwhile, I see no big deal in the corruption of the names. Yoruba corrupts anything, not just Muslim names.Try as much as possible to correct people that mispronounce your name, but no need to fight or quarrel with anyone over it.

After all, some people prefer the corrupted version. I had a lecturer in the university who told Muslim brothers not to call him Dhikrullah, that he is Sikiru. And he is a Muslim.

@underlined... true talk. Baarakallaahu feek.

It's because of his ignorance.
Re: Mispronunciation Of Muslim Names by hahn(m): 1:17pm On May 13, 2016
Newnas:


Please see tasmiyatul maolud by Sheikh Bakr Abu Zayd

"In the Quran" undecided
Re: Mispronunciation Of Muslim Names by jibola22(f): 1:47pm On May 13, 2016
Am Ganiyat.
Re: Mispronunciation Of Muslim Names by hab1612(m): 1:54pm On May 13, 2016
I am so PROUD of my Name
Habibullah
Re: Mispronunciation Of Muslim Names by Nobody: 1:59pm On May 13, 2016
jayceeabdulwasiu:


Fatty, Pele ma binu. cheesy grin angry angry grin

Forgive everybody including daddy.

I called my cousin fatty bombom
lol motigbo mio binu mo grin
Re: Mispronunciation Of Muslim Names by Nobody: 2:01pm On May 13, 2016
eitsei:
you stop answering it when they call you that without being rude and as for your dad you will continue to tell him and sometimes too don't answer him when he calls you that and if he asks you why are you not answering you will say that's not your name, without being rude
Alright thanks for your suggestion smiley
Re: Mispronunciation Of Muslim Names by HaneefahRN(f): 2:11pm On May 13, 2016
Jazakallahu khairan.
I think it depends a lot on the parents and environment too. Yorubas can spoil name ehn, all those grandmas I never knew Dhikrullah was Sikiru, such a beautiful name, but if the parents call the child with the right pronunciation, it will influence others to call it the right way. A man named his daughter 'KaoKab' not sure of the spelling or meaning, that day, the old mamas started calling the baby 'Kabukabu', the father didn't allow them though, if you can't pronounce it right then use her yoruba name.
I have a small cousin named 'Rahmat', if you don't pronounce her name well, maybe like call her 'Ramota', she doesn't care who you are, she will not answer, if she is in a good mood, she'll correct.

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Re: Mispronunciation Of Muslim Names by Nobody: 2:34pm On May 13, 2016
jibola22:
Am Ganiyat.
Ghaniyah it is.

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Re: Mispronunciation Of Muslim Names by babs01(m): 2:35pm On May 13, 2016
I'm Qasim and my fulani kinsmen call me Kasim, I think it's allowed it's our intonation
Re: Mispronunciation Of Muslim Names by eitsei(m): 2:49pm On May 13, 2016
Newnas:


Its a great fortune that Allah blessed you with parents that were foresighted and wise enough to know the importance of Islamic knowledge especially for a female child. You owe them a lot, I ask Allah to make it easy for you to be grateful for this mercy.

As for your name, it wasn't mispelt. in Arabic language when nuun that has sukuun preceedes the letter ba, the nuun is to be pronounced as meem not nuun anymore. This is what the scholars of tajweed call iqlaab or qalb (transformation or change).

If you pick up your Quran and check the following verse :

Surah Ash-Shams, Verse 12:
إِذِ انبَعَثَ أَشْقَاهَا

When the most wicked man among them went forth (to kill the she-camel).
(English - Mohsin Khan)

via iQuran

You will find a small written above the letter nuun showing that you should do qalb.

Allah knows best.
I understand you.. But there are some words that don't go with rules of tajweed, e.g دنيا،صنوان..
Re: Mispronunciation Of Muslim Names by eitsei(m): 2:59pm On May 13, 2016
hahn:


So where did you get this list from? undecided
what I mean is that I can't remember the exact verses in the Quran.. All what I said are from the Quran and the sayings of the prophet... Don't worry I will get back to you later on it later
Re: Mispronunciation Of Muslim Names by hahn(m): 3:01pm On May 13, 2016
eitsei:
what I mean is that I can't remember the exact verses in the Quran.. All what I said are from the Quran and the sayings of the prophet... Don't worry I will get back to you later on it later

Waiting smiley
Re: Mispronunciation Of Muslim Names by Newnas(m): 3:05pm On May 13, 2016
hahn:

"In the Quran" undecided
Do you want to take the Quran and leave the sunnah?
Re: Mispronunciation Of Muslim Names by Newnas(m): 3:07pm On May 13, 2016
eitsei:
I understand you.. But there are some words that don't go with rules of tajweed, e.g دنيا،صنوان..

Haa, you missed it.

The one you mentioned here is idgam and idgam is not done between letters of a single word.
Maybe you should revise the books of tajweed again.

JazaakumuLLaahu khayraa
Re: Mispronunciation Of Muslim Names by hahn(m): 3:11pm On May 13, 2016
Newnas:


Do you want to take the Quran and leave the sunnah?

The Quran is Allah's word. Is it not?
Re: Mispronunciation Of Muslim Names by Newnas(m): 3:13pm On May 13, 2016
hahn:

The Quran is Allah's word. Is it not?
Don't beg the question?
Do you want to leave the sunnah of Allah's messenger alyhissolaat wassalaam?
Re: Mispronunciation Of Muslim Names by eitsei(m): 3:15pm On May 13, 2016
Newnas:


Haa, you missed it.

The one you mentioned here is idgam and idgam is not done between letters of a single word.
Maybe you should revise the books of tajweed again.

JazaakumuLLaahu khayraa
I didn't and I'm sure of what I'm saying
Re: Mispronunciation Of Muslim Names by hahn(m): 3:20pm On May 13, 2016
Newnas:


Don't beg the question?

Do you want to leave the sunnah of Allah's messenger alyhissolaat wassalaam?

It is not as important as the word of Allah. If Allah didn't say it then it doesn't count. Or do you mean to say that Allah didn't know enough about those things to have penned them in the Quran? undecided
Re: Mispronunciation Of Muslim Names by nurez305(m): 3:22pm On May 13, 2016
yhermmie:
I'm proud of my Muslim name...Hassana
hmmmn,i'm very sure, people will know you as yemi more than hassana
Re: Mispronunciation Of Muslim Names by Newnas(m): 3:27pm On May 13, 2016
eitsei:
I didn't and I'm sure of what I'm saying

Sheikh jamzuriyy in his tuhfah said:
إلا إذا كان بكلمة فلا
تدغم كدنيا ثم صنوان تلا
Except if it is in a word, then dont
do idgam like (ie example) dunya or sinwan. Read

So revise the poem of Sheikh Jamzuriyy and the explanations of the poem. You'll find it there. in shaa Allah
Re: Mispronunciation Of Muslim Names by Newnas(m): 3:41pm On May 13, 2016
hahn:


It is not as important as the word of Allah. If Allah didn't say it then it doesn't count. Or do you mean to say that Allah didn't know enough about those things to have penned them in the Quran? undecided

Sorry, but the Quran and sunnah are both from Allah.

Surah An-Najm, Verse 2-4:
مَا ضَلَّ صَاحِبُكُمْ وَمَا غَوَىٰ

Your companion (Muhammad SAW) has neither gone astray nor has erred.

وَمَا يَنطِقُ عَنِ الْهَوَىٰ

Nor does he speak of (his own) desire.

إِنْ هُوَ إِلَّا وَحْيٌ يُوحَىٰ

It is only an Inspiration that is inspired.
(English - Mohsin Khan)

via iQuran

Surah An-Nisa, Verse 115:
وَمَن يُشَاقِقِ الرَّسُولَ مِن بَعْدِ مَا تَبَيَّنَ لَهُ الْهُدَىٰ وَيَتَّبِعْ غَيْرَ سَبِيلِ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ نُوَلِّهِ مَا تَوَلَّىٰ وَنُصْلِهِ جَهَنَّمَ وَسَاءَتْ مَصِيرًا

And whoever contradicts and opposes the Messenger (Muhammad SAW) after the right path has been shown clearly to him, and follows other than the believers' way. We shall keep him in the path he has chosen, and burn him in Hell - what an evil destination.
(English - Mohsin Khan)

via iQuran

Surah Aal-e-Imran, Verse 31-32:
قُلْ إِن كُنتُمْ تُحِبُّونَ اللَّهَ فَاتَّبِعُونِي يُحْبِبْكُمُ اللَّهُ وَيَغْفِرْ لَكُمْ ذُنُوبَكُمْ وَاللَّهُ غَفُورٌ رَّحِيمٌ

Say (O Muhammad SAW to mankind): "If you (really) love Allah then follow me (i.e. accept Islamic Monotheism, follow the Quran and the Sunnah), Allah will love you and forgive you of your sins. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving,

قُلْ أَطِيعُوا اللَّهَ وَالرَّسُولَ فَإِن تَوَلَّوْا فَإِنَّ اللَّهَ لَا يُحِبُّ الْكَافِرِينَ

Say (O Muhammad SAW): "Obey Allah and the Messenger (Muhammad SAW)." But if they turn away, then Allah does not like the disbelievers.
(English - Mohsin Khan)

via iQuran


Surah Al-Hashr, Verse 7:
مَّا أَفَاءَ اللَّهُ عَلَىٰ رَسُولِهِ مِنْ أَهْلِ الْقُرَىٰ فَلِلَّهِ وَلِلرَّسُولِ وَلِذِي الْقُرْبَىٰ وَالْيَتَامَىٰ وَالْمَسَاكِينِ وَابْنِ السَّبِيلِ كَيْ لَا يَكُونَ دُولَةً بَيْنَ الْأَغْنِيَاءِ مِنكُمْ وَمَا آتَاكُمُ الرَّسُولُ فَخُذُوهُ وَمَا نَهَاكُمْ عَنْهُ فَانتَهُوا وَاتَّقُوا اللَّهَ إِنَّ اللَّهَ شَدِيدُ الْعِقَابِ

What Allah gave as booty (Fai') to His Messenger (Muhammad SAW) from the people of the townships, - it is for Allah, His Messenger (Muhammad SAW), the kindred (of Messenger Muhammad SAW), the orphans, Al-Masakin (the poor), and the wayfarer, in order that it may not become a fortune used by the rich among you. ]b]And whatsoever the Messenger (Muhammad SAW) gives you, take it, and whatsoever he forbids you, abstain (from it), and fear Allah. Verily, Allah is Severe in punishment.[/b]
(English - Mohsin Khan)

via iQuran

So what do you say about the above verses.
Re: Mispronunciation Of Muslim Names by Salym(m): 3:42pm On May 13, 2016
[quote author=Newnas post=45442777]Friday Islamic and Moral Diet Series
(FIMDS) 4

Some people just mispronounce Muslim names and many of us don't see it as a problem. Barring my knowledge of Historical Linguistics, how did Siraaj turn to Suraju, Zulaykhah to Suliya, Khadeejah to Adija, Is'haq to Siaka, Ibraheem to Brahimo or Buremo, 'Aasiyah to Siata, Dhikrullah to Sikiru, Sa'eed to Saidi, Moryam to Mori, Shaakirah to Saki, Ridwan to Riliwan, Misbah to Musibau, Zulfah to Silifa, Sofiyyah to Sefiya, 'Abdulmojeed to Mojidi, and Najmuddeen to Naajimu, Fadheelah to Fali, Faatihah to Fetia and so on?

I know some prominent OPC members called Kasimu Sànpòn-ná, Wasiu Akerese, Taofiki Agbónonlé and Taoridi Sangoté. What happened to Qoosim, 'AbdulWas'i, Tawfiq and Tawheed? Is it because they were not even Muslims?

There are Yoruba films titled Muniru ati Ambali, Jelili Oniso, Monsuru, Monsuratu, Mufu Olóòsà Oko, Aminatu, Sikiratu Sindodo, Aafa Sule et cetera. How did these names change from Muneer and Hambal, Abduljeleel, Miftah, Aameenah and Sulaymon? Are the producers ignoramuses or they have an axe to grind? Are we suffering from inferiority complex?

[b]Only a joker answers to a corrupted Muslim name. Your freedom begins from what you accept as your name or your child's name.
'When the child is born, one of the first ways in which he is to be honoured is by giving him a good name, because a good name will have a good impact on the heart when it is first heard.'[/b

Op, Sulaymon, Moryam and Abdulmojeed are a corrupt version of Sulaiman, Maryam and Abdulmajeed. Arabic does not have the vowel 'o'. Yorubas just tend to replace fat'ha with an 'o'.

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Re: Mispronunciation Of Muslim Names by Olateef(m): 3:52pm On May 13, 2016
What is the correct pronunciation for Abdullateef?
Re: Mispronunciation Of Muslim Names by yhermmie(f): 4:20pm On May 13, 2016
nurez305:
hmmmn,i'm very sure, people will know you as yemi more than hassana

yeah that's true.. but a considerable number of people also know me by my Muslim name. After all I don't hide my name and my religion
Re: Mispronunciation Of Muslim Names by ybalogs(m): 4:48pm On May 13, 2016
[quote author=Newnas post=45582761]

please mention an example of such names[/quote like Yaqin. Is it right to say Abdul Yaqin or just Yaqin?

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