If you're not ikwerre then take your own advice and shut the hell up.

proeast:
So why are you speaking for them? Did they make you their advocate??

HopeAtHand:


Your bolded got me laffing.

Everyone musnt agree with you.Thats life for you. Saying that im not Ikwerre doesnt change the fact that i am. You are not even Ikwerre, so you're not qualified to speak on anything Ikwerre.

Its funny how Igbos waste time and energy trying to force an issue that is beyond them.

It is not for the Igbo to say Ikwerre is Igbo, it is for the Ikwerre to accept being Igbo.

if we are not interested, you cant coerce brotherhood from us. You cant afford to have dissenters within your ranks. It wil be a costly mistake.

You are not Ikwerre and saying that you are Ikwerre one million Times does not automatically turn you into one, it's a pity. Though I understand your pains, if I were Yoruba too, I would claim anything( be it Ikwerre) just not to be Yoruba, it's understandable, but still doesn't stop you from being Yoruba.

No, it's funny why are Yoruba man like you had taken it upon you to be the one telling Igbos who is Igbos and who isnt.

It is not for the Yorubas and Edos to say who is Igbo and who isn't, it's left for Igbos to sort that out amongst themselves.

I just need some clarity on this ikwerre and Igbo issue from an objective person. Is their relationship more of Yoruba/Edo or Yoruba/Ilorin cuz obviously, one is closer than the other in today's outlook but all probably have same origin.
And by the way, is Onitsha really bigger than Port Harcourt? Google map says something different tho.

Abagworo:


No true Igbo man will accept Ikwerre as Igbo as events over time has shown our differences. Though we speak similar language and intermarry we have developed over time different perceptions to life.

I always look forward to your comments because your approach is often practical.

Most Igbos who have never lived among Ikwerres will assume Ikwerre is Igbo because we speak similar language, have shared customs etc etc. They need to understand the Ikwerre mindset and how the Ikwerre view the Igbo.

Idealism and realism are two very different things. In real life, Ikwerre is Ikwerre, Igbo is Igbo..saying they are one and the same is the allusion of idealists.

How do you say "Get lost" in Portuguese??

quid:
@ millerz , answer this question ^^

HopeAtHand:


Imagine Igbos asking me, an Ikwerre, to translate the name of an Ikwerre community they way they want and not how the people came about.

Pls talk to your people, they seem to be getting too emotional on issues beyond them. it tends to becloud their sense of rationality.

Nigga u said u are yoruba

Boyedex:
I just need some clarity on this ikwerre and Igbo issue from an objective person. Is their relationship more of Yoruba/Edo or Yoruba/Ilorin cuz obviously, one is closer than the other in today's outlook but all probably have same origin.
And by the way, is Onitsha really bigger than Port Harcourt? Google map says something different tho.

You need to be specific with your questions. Edo doesn't 've any similarity with any of the listed tribes you wrote, the Language, food and dressing are not the same with that of the Yorubas.

donphilopus:
When did Agbor, Asaba and Port harcourt become Igbo Cities?!

If they are not Igbo cities, are they Yoruba or Hausa cities?

Abagworo:


No true Igbo man will accept Ikwerre as Igbo as events over time has shown our differences. Though we speak similar language and intermarry we have developed over time different perceptions to life.

Lol ! See this sabo speaking.

You mean you are more Igbo than Ohaneze.Ndiigbo that have Ikwerre sons like Chief Aguma holding key positions.

What do you know. Soon after Ebonyi. It will be Enugu, Imo and then Rivers turn to produce the president of Ohanaeze Ndiigbo, we will see whether it won't be from the Rivers Igboids already in the organization that the head of Igbo apex body will be picked from.

HopeAtHand:


I always look forward to your comments because your approach is often practical.

Most Igbos who have never lived among Ikwerres will assume Ikwerre is Igbo because we speak similar language, have shared customs etc etc. They need to understand the Ikwerre mindset and how the Ikwerre view the Igbo.

Idealism and realism are two very different things. In real life, Ikwerre is Ikwerre, Igbo is Igbo..saying they are one and the same is the allusion of idealists.

Is idealism and realism the reason you as a Yoruba man is all over the internet masquerading as an Ikwerre man?

Abagworo:


It is no game my brother. Only Oshimili/Aniocha, Oyigbo and Egbema are Igbos in Soith-South. We should learn to do away with anybody denying Igbo.

Igbos cannot even afford to have dissenting persons within their ranks.

For Igbos sakes, they best work with the people who have willingly decided to be part and parcel of Igboland.

Enahi:


You need to be specific with your questions. Edo doesn't 've any similarity with any of the listed tribes you wrote, the Language, food and dressing are not the same with that of the Yorubas.

Edo is part and parcel of the Oduduwa domain through the orayamiyan or something like that. The Edo Oba dynasty hails from Oduduwa in Ile ife, ie the Eweka dynasty.

Edo and Oduduwa were one pre Nigeria and will remain so, Post Nigeria. infact, the Ooni of ife reaffirmed this not long ago.

Edo was meant to be a subordinate under Oduduwa.

Enahi:


You need to be specific with your questions. Edo doesn't 've any similarity with any of the listed tribes you wrote, the Language, food and dressing are not the same with that of the Yorubas.

Well what you have posted doesn't negate anything I said except you just feel like arguing baselessly. Relationship doesn't necessarily mean a positive one. And that's the reason for my question. But all obviously share same ancestry. whether its the Yoruba from Edo, or Edo from Yoruba is an argument I won't derail this thread to.

HopeAtHand:


Igbos cannot even afford to have dissenting persons within their ranks.

For Igbos sakes, they best work with the people who have willingly decided to be part and parcel of Igboland.

Funny. Ndiigbo an ancient people that had been practicing democracy before the Caucasian Greece left their caves in Eurasia to displace the native Greeks, does not know how to accommodate dissenting voices?

We do, just that dissenting voices are only allowed to have their say in Igboland and not their way. The majority as in every democratic society do have their way.

HopeAtHand:



Ogbum-nu-abali means Orogbum and Oroabali. Simple.

stop misinterpreting someone else community name.

so then, what's Orogbum and Oroabali?

Another fvcktard.... The negro said, "my fellow yorubas". what does that statement mean to you or do you simply lack comprehension skills?

ikechu1:


Meccano NEVER claimed Yoloba. The guy has repeatedly stated he's from Anambra state ever since he joined in NL. The account is old as heck and he's been in several yoloba vs. Igbo argument. Hell a click on his ID screams igbo...many of his post is about igbo.

You ousted nothing, you ended up making yourself look ridiculously stupid

on the contrary, you didn't need to check my profile to know I was a "she". By the way you insulted me first, so why are you foaming by the mouth?? I only insult people who insulted me first.

meccuno:
you can abuse me all you want. I wasn't interested in checking your profile. Never knew it was a she........

ricsman:
so then, what's Orogbum and Oroabali?

Oro - Ogbum= House of Ogbum, Oro- Abali= House of Abali.

Oro/Ulo/Uno/ Uyo= House in Igbo dialects.

Ogbum and Abali were probably the progenitors of OroOgbum and OroAbali clans.

I'm not even an Ikwerre nor do I know those place yet I could decipher those with common sense, how much more a Yoruba man than has dedicated his time in studying the History of those places, of course he would know more, but it doesn't make him Ikwerre.

send me a pm! Yoruba man!

meccuno:
I stay @ GRA.....where are you?

Marcelini:


Edo is part and parcel of the Oduduwa domain through the orayamiyan or something like that. The Edo Oba dynasty hails from Oduduwa in Ile ife, ie the Eweka dynasty.

Edo and Oduduwa were one pre Nigeria and will remain so, Post Nigeria. infact, the Ooni of ife reaffirmed this not long ago.

Edo was meant to be a subordinate under Oduduwa.

You are not from Edo State so you don't 've a right to decide where Edo comes from or who Edo should align with, it's simply none of your business.
Edo has nothing to do with Yoruba leave Us alone!

Boyedex:
I just need some clarity on this ikwerre and Igbo issue from an objective person. Is their relationship more of Yoruba/Edo or Yoruba/Ilorin cuz obviously, one is closer than the other in today's outlook but all probably have same origin.
And by the way, is Onitsha really bigger than Port Harcourt? Google map says something different tho.

Port Harcourt is 4 times bigger than Onitsha and environs in landmass but the building pattern in Onitsha makes the density higher. Based on Nigerian flawed census Port Harcourt is more populous.

Igbo/Ikwerre relationship is exactly comparable to Ibibio/Annang, Bini/Esan, Urhobo/Isoko.

Enahi:


You are not from Edo State so you don't 've a right to decide where Edo comes from or who Edo should align with, it's simply none of your business.
Edo has nothing to do with Yoruba leave Us alone!

Haha! You are not from Anioma or from Ikwerre, you don't understand any of the dialects, but you feel entitled to make comments on Ikwerre and Anioma, but somehow miraculously feel that Ndiigbo shouldn't make comments on Edo.

Yes, the Ooni of Ife believe that Edo is part and parcel of Oduduwa domain, Yorubas believes so too, you belonged with Oduduwa before Nigeria and must end with Odua people after Nigeria.

Marcelini:


Funny. Ndiigbo an ancient people that had been practicing democracy before the Caucasian Greece left their caves in Eurasia to displace the native Greeks, does not know how to accommodate dissenting voices?

We do, just that dissenting voices are only allowed to have their say in Igboland and not their way. The majority as in every democratic society do have their way.

Talk is cheap...

Marcelini:


Haha! You are not from Anioma or from Ikwerre, you don't understand any of the dialects, but you feel entitled to make comments on Ikwerre and Anioma, but somehow miraculously feel that Ndiigbo shouldn't make comments on Edo.

Yes, the Ooni of Ife believe that Edo is part and parcel of Oduduwa domain, Yorubas believes so too, you belonged with Oduduwa before Nigeria and must end with Odua people after Nigeria.

It's either you are stupid or just daft, I guess you ain't well educated. Now answer my question what similarities does Edo and Yoruba have? They don't speak same language, they don't eat same food, dressing is also different, they don't also have same culture.

So if you ain't stupid or a dunce kindly educate me on what might join this two cultures together aside the history of Kingship.

Oh look, a deranged senile schizophrenic. Looks like your dementia will not be cured anytime soon.

You need drugs that inhibit mental retardation. it must really suck to Igbo as no one wants to associated with your ilk.

Get lost

There's a video on NL here where a Thailand police said that Igbo's are the scum of the earth and the disgrace of Africa. Hahahhahahahahah

ikechu1:


1.) It is Beyond obvious YOU UNDOUBTABLY YORUBA. A so called "deltan" that doesn't know both Asaba and Agbor is an Igbo territory. F2k out of here with your attache by forve.

While I'm at it, I'm Igbo from Asaba Delta now go bash your head at the wall if it pain you that much

God forbid! You Yoruba's can join Biafra but as for me and my people, we shall never ever join those scavenging land grabbers.

Yorubanews:
Loving this thread. SS people una wan join Biafra ba?

That's the last statement the Igbo's want to hear.

HopeAtHand:


NTA is in Mgbuoba and not Choba.
Eleme junction is in Rumuokwurusi/Elelenwo in Obio/Akpor, Oyigbo LGA starts after Iriebe town.

The PH LGA became small, after Obio/Akpor was carved out. Sincerely, it is easier for Igwuruta or Omagwa to be referred to as PH but Oyigbo will remain Oyigbo, becos PH is an Ikwerre thing.

Ikwerres arent Igbos, we ensured it was written in the Nigerian constitution. We did that on purpose. All other arguments are based on emotions and not what the law says. If you want to argue sensibly, have an argument that is legally binding.

Abagworo:


Port Harcourt is 4 times bigger than Onitsha and environs in landmass but the building pattern in Onitsha makes the density higher. Based on Nigerian flawed census Port Harcourt is more populous.

Igbo/Ikwerre relationship is exactly comparable to Ibibio/Annang, Bini/Esan, Urhobo/Isoko.

Lies, unless you can show any colonial document were the Isokos referred to themselves as Urhobo, or the Esan referred to themselves as Bini or the Annang referred to themselves as Ibibio.

By the way, I have colonial documents where Ikwerres were recognized as Ibos, just as every other part of Iboland( colonial term) of those days.
http://www.elombah.com/index.php/special-reports/16602-ikwerre-is-igbo

Marcelini:


Oro - Ogbum= House of Ogbum, Oro- Abali= House of Abali.

Oro/Ulo/Uno/ Uyo= House in Igbo dialects.

Ogbum and Abali were probably the progenitors of OroOgbum and OroAbali clans.

I'm not even an Ikwerre nor do I know those place yet I could decipher those with common sense, how much more a Yoruba man than has dedicated his time in studying the History of those places, of course he would know more, but it doesn't make him Ikwerre.

Assumption galore. enjoy yaself.

And, you are Igbo, im Ikwerre and you are not my brother. Not at all. Only an Ikwerre is my brother.