Well Perjury is criminal but it is not the same thing as giving false declaration.

Perjury is when you intentionally lie under oat. However, if you can proof that at the time, you believe same to be true, even if it is later proofed to be false, you will not be liable for perjury.!

kcnwaigbo:

Still waiting for your reply

kcnwaigbo:


Can you imagine the hypocrisy!! You would rather suggest we rest the certificate issue because your master is involved!! Both looting and forgery are all coruption.This was exactly what GEJ meant by stealing is not corruption!! Perjury anf forgery are all part of corruption and serious crimes that can't be swept under the carpet.

Jonathan actually was saying that stealing is not the only kind of corruption we have.

Laid2001:
Well Perjury is criminal but it is not the same thing as giving false declaration.

Perjury is when you intentionally lie under oat. However, if you can proof that at the time, you believe same to be true, even if it is later proofed to be false, you will not be liable for perjury.!

Well Buhari has lied under oath in the court affidavit he submitted to INEC!! This case is purely criminal QED

op, it is glaring that your question is not to seek knowledge but to rant, so continue in your delusions since you can't differentiate between criminal charges and civil suit.
also learn what plaintiff/defendants and prosecutor/accused means and it's application, therein lies your answer.
Enjoy your day.

histemple:


Jonathan actually was saying that stealing is not the only kind of corruption we have.

That was exactly what he meant but these zombies just turned everything around!!

Laid2001:
Well Perjury is criminal but it is not the same thing as giving false declaration.

Perjury is when you intentionally lie under oat. However, if you can proof that at the time, you believe same to be true, even if it is later proofed to be false, you will not be liable for perjury.!

How exactly can you prove that you never knew that you submitted a forged certificate BELONGING TO YOU, if eventually it is proven to be fake?

OlujobaSamuel:
op, it is glaring that your question is not to seek knowledge but to rant, so continue in your delusions since you can't differentiate between criminal charges and civil suit.
also learn what plaintiff/defendants and prosecutor/accused means and it's application, therein lies your answer.
Enjoy your day.

I will ask you again are forgery and perjury civil or criminal cases?

histemple:


How exactly can you prove that you never knew that you submitted a forged certificate BELONGING TO YOU, if eventually it is proven to be fake?

Me sef I tireooo this people take us for fools

kcnwaigbo:

Yes of course,but Saraki has a better chance of surviving than Buhari

Do you think so ?
Remember buhari is the comander in chief and also decides what to do with the countrys money, also remember this is a fantastically kworopt nation including her judges

kcnwaigbo:

So even if he loses the case we should let him finish his four years smh !! That must be peace of the graveyard

Tell me exactly why PMB has suddenly become your worst nightmare.? You better apply for that N-Power stuff before it closes. At least you will be less idle. Mtchewwww. SMH

Good Timing For the case to spring up,Wailers will get busy arguing and PMB continues providing employments.Same thing PDP,Ekiti loudmouth and co spent d whole time strategising and APC sent them packing.A lost case

I would say this is a civil suit and the consequence of this is same with whether it's criminal - he leaves office. ACJ doesn't have anything to with this. Admittedly, this is a case that has civil and criminal elements and as of law the criminal elements should be decided upon first but the case was filed as a civil suit, the SC will not tell a counsel how to. Would love to hear your constructive criticism on this notion.

kcnwaigbo:


Can you imagine the hypocrisy!! You would rather suggest we rest the certificate issue because your master is involved!! Both looting and forgery are all coruption.This was exactly what GEJ meant by stealing is not corruption!! Perjury anf forgery are all part of corruption and serious crimes that can't be swept under the carpet.

Am not ready to join issues with you guys. When he contested in the past and lost, no one remember that he has no certificate but he won and chasing your pay master to return our Commonwealth, you all hit the panic button. No comment from me on this to anyone. Dog wey go lost will not hear the hunter whistle.

jossyj:


Do you think so ?
Remember buhari is the comander in chief and also decides what to do with the countrys money, also remember this is a fantastically kworopt nation including her judges

Sorry dear,Buhari has no control over the supreme court which is the final arbiter of this case.If you did not learn from the Rivers and Akwa Ibom tribunal judgements then you are on a very long thing.

Besides I thought you people told us Buhari is Mr integrity so why now this boast of him controlling money and judges.

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I think we should do more research on this issue of Buhari's certificate this before making comments.

Im not a lawyer, but i heard that anybody with 10 years of experience in the public sector can contest for election. On the other hand, President Buhari pass through a military school. Do you think if Buhari his not educated, he can become a military President to rule NIGERIA just like that? I even read Buhari also trained at US War College. This is a school with an equivalent certificate for masters programme if not higher. So, what are now saying...a graduate or equivalent which President and the People's General "as i call him" Buhari has.

LydayBobo:
Am not ready to join issues with you guys. When he contested in the past and lost, no one remember that he has no certificate but he won and chasing your pay master to return our Commonwealth, you all hit the panic button. No comment from me on this to anyone. Dog wey go lost will not hear the hunter whistle.

Lolz someone can also say people has been stealing since independence so why is it now that Buhari is arresting people for corruption!! Your hypocrisy stinks!!

The ACJ Act of 2015 can't be used here, because it's not a criminal matter. This certificate issue is purely civil. I'll explain.

Firstly, only government can prosecute a criminal matter in court. Where they don't want to, and a private individual wants to, the individual has to gain the consent of the Attorney-General, to be able to do so. The reason why instituting a criminal action against Buhari at this time won't hold is because the constitution protects the president from criminal prosecution. If the plaintiff in this suit can prove that Buhari doesn't have a WASC, then after Buhari may have been removed, criminal action may be instituted.

One of the best ways to differentiate between civil and criminal matters is in the relief being sought. While in criminal matters, the judgment is either imprisonment or payment of a fine, in civil matters, it's more about compensation, or a return to status quo(which is the case in this certificate matter).

Nellybii:


Tell me exactly why PMB has suddenly become your worst nightmare.? You better apply for that N-Power stuff before it closes. At least you will be less idle. Mtchewwww. SMH

I thought this is now an era of fighting corruption!! So why not we start from the presidency!!

Surfboard:
The ACJ Act of 2015 can't be used here, because it's not a criminal matter. This certificate issue is purely civil. I'll explain.

Firstly, only government can prosecute a criminal matter in court. Where they don't want to, and a private individual wants to, the individual has to gain the consent of the Attorney-General, to be able to do so. The reason why instituting a criminal action against Buhari at this time won't hold is because the constitution protects the president from criminal prosecution. If the plaintiff in this suit can prove that Buhari doesn't have a WASC, then after Buhari may have been removed, criminal action may be instituted.

One of the best ways to differentiate between civil and criminal matters is in the relief being sought. While in criminal matters, the judgment is either imprisonment or payment of a fine, in civil matters, it's more about compensation, or a return to status quo(which is the case in this certificate matter).

Whatever the case would be followed to the latter!!

Adekorya:
Whosoever ever expect this case to go against PMB,(present number one citizen of Nigeria) verily, verily the person is gullible and dimwit, and ignorance of magnitude of power in possession of a president, not to even talk of Immunity clause that follows the office of executives.


Abeg let talk another thing Jare instead of debating on dead end issue.

The Y 13 SANs? Pele Zombie!

[size=15pt]Lol. Empty brains everywhere..Lmao ... Buhari can never be prosecuted on that certificate issue.. Maybe after 4 to 8 years in power . If na true, he won't even smell the presidential sit again at first not to talk of winning the election. Mumu wailers looking for every means to wail PMB as usual [/size]

kcnwaigbo:

I thought this is now an era of fighting corruption!! So why not we start from the presidency!!

It is obvious that the anti corruption crusade is why you hate PMB so much nothing more. Lawless bunch. No more free money ntoooo.

PMB and Saraki should resign shikina!

STFUareyouG0d:
Really?

Buhari might seem untouchable because of his immunity but have it in mind such grace called "immunity" terminate as soon as he leaves office or vote out by "vote of no confident".As learned minds knows every general rules have an exception,Behari Becareful(B.B)

anytexy:
PMB and Saraki should resign shikina!

Good so that GEJ will come back as President and Ekweremadu will be Senate president. Well said. Our economy will bounce back immediately. Yesssss

BarrSolicitor:


Buhari might seem untouchable because of his immunity but have it in mind such grace called "immunity" terminate as soon as he leaves office or vote out by "vote of no confident".As learned minds knows every general rules have an exception,Behari Becareful(B.B)

Buhari's immunity does not extend here.This is a pre-election matter

gloire27:




But avengers dared him

Dem neva die finish?

Jokerman:

Is Buhari greater than Gadarffi or Sadam Hussein?

Yes

Dcomrade:
A dictator is always a dictator......

U garit!

kcnwaigbo:


Sorry dear,Buhari has no control over the supreme court which is the final arbiter of this case.If you did not learn from the Rivers and Akwa Ibom tribunal judgements then you are on a very long thing.

Besides I thought you people told us Buhari is Mr integrity so why now this boast of him controlling money and judges.

Birds of the same feathers flock together. They obviously share similar traits/vices with Buhari.

southpole:
For those who want to see this case go on, I am sorry to say that you will be disappointed, prosecuting BUHARI will be tantamount to going against the constitution which states that the president and governors cannot be prosecuted while in office. This case can only come up after BUHARI has finished his first term or second term if he contest and win again. The quest for certificate rather than know how is one of the problems pulling this country back, though a man know how to do it well but because there is no paper qualification to back it he should not be given the job, what an irony? How many of us take our cars to an automobile professor in the university for repairs? I saw many rushing to roadside mechanics because they can fix our cars yet we call them illiterate while a university graduate of automobile engineering is called educated even when he cannot fix his own car.

who told u that?.... Remember that this offence was committed in his quest to be an elected president, if he committed the said offence that invalidates his mandate and his not immune for prosecution in this matter, many ExGovernors with such immunity lost their seat when it was discovered that illegal action took place that brought them to power and Buhari is no different.