foolinlove:


Come on people. Religious terrorism has existed for centuries - look at the Christians. They're history isn't exactly perfect. Islam is just the same, but due to advances in technology and globalisation the threat is larger.

Religion of any sort is not the problem. Extremism is. When any person thinks their beliefs are better or more righteous than anyone else's and seek to assert that over another person, problems start. It happens in religion, atheism and any other "ism" you know about. Even veganism.

We should make our own choices and respect others choices. We don't have to like everything that other people do. Just respect it and not let our emotions get the better of us. Love, not hate.

my boo i wish it was that simple..
I used to ve this mindset about Islam , like live and lets live... But daily i see my kinsmen head on a pike... In a week i see mujahadins decimating the population of Christians in my country... I see young girls kidnapped and converted to Islam...

Well i thought this are the bad ones..
Then i study the al quran kareem and the hadiths .... Wow wow ... I saw tears sorrows and blood.
Well i said that is because it is a survival mechanism then ... Alas i was wrong , infact it became a way of life to enter alijana.. And mohamed as the al hassan, a gigalo, a 50+man who slept with a 9years old kid... A guy married snatched his adopted son's wife.. A caravan robber ,once u are in Islam u cant opt out, result will be fatwa of death, questioning mohamed means death, Christians are worst humans... I wonder what will happen to atheist? *i can go on and on*...

Picture this : in a Christian community, atheist ve some say, but in a Muslim ummah decapitation, i think last year a kid was beheaded for listening to western music... Are u getting the drift.

For me CHRIST is my source.... And if anyone who follows him do otherwise, i wont be moved.
But for Islam the source mohamed ..is what we are seeing today.

No one hates Islam, rather the monster it created centuries ago is now tearing them apart.

*dives inside swimming pool*

Blackfire:



my boo i wish it was that simple..
I used to ve this mindset about Islam , like live and lets live... But daily i see my kinsmen head on a pike... In a week i see mujahadins decimating the population of Christians in my country... I see young girls kidnapped and converted to Islam...

Well i thought this are the bad ones..
Then i study the al quran kareem and the hadiths .... Wow wow ... I saw tears sorrows and blood.
Well i said that is because it is a survival mechanism then ... Alas i was wrong , infact it became a way of life to enter alijana.. And mohamed as the al hassan, a gigalo, a 50+man who slept with a 9years old kid... A guy married snatched his adopted son's wife.. A caravan robber ,once u are in Islam u cant opt out, result will be fatwa of death, questioning mohamed means death, Christians are worst humans... I wonder what will happen to atheist? *i can go on and on*...

Picture this : in a Christian community, atheist ve some say, but in a Muslim ummah decapitation, i think last year a kid was beheaded for listening to western music... Are u getting the drift.

For me CHRIST is my source.... And if anyone who follows him do otherwise, i wont be moved.
But for Islam the source mohamed ..is what we are seeing today.

No one hates Islam, rather the monster it created centuries ago is now tearing them apart.

*dives inside swimming pool*

These are very extreme examples of islam in practise. Look at the witch hunts in the USA - Christians did similarly awful things.

But I can't speak for anyone else's experience.

Islam exists in the west relatively easily. Any terrorist behaviours are primarily incited in the east. Those who label musilms as terrorists are seen as bigots. The different religions pretty much coexist peacefully and I think that has a lot to do with quality of life and secualr governing bodies.

I think rather than eradicating islam, maybe increase the general quality of life and remove the power religion holds over government. Reason will always prevail, unfortunately, it prevails over time and a lot of people suffer in the interim.

I don't doubt Mohammad was an @$$, but I'm sure Jesus did a lot of crappy stuff too. The bible as we know it is heavily censored - so all we really have is faith and goodwill.

foolinlove:


These are very extreme examples of islam in practise. Look at the witch hunts in the USA - Christians did similarly awful things.

But I can't speak for anyone else's experience.

Islam exists in the west relatively easily. Any terrorist behaviours are primarily incited in the east. Those who label musilms as terrorists are seen as bigots. The different religions pretty much coexist peacefully and I think that has a lot to do with quality of life and secualr governing bodies.

I think rather than eradicating islam, maybe increase the general quality of life and remove the power religion holds over government. Reason will always prevail, unfortunately, it prevails over time and a lot of people suffer in the interim.

I don't doubt Mohammad was an @$$, but I'm sure Jesus did a lot of crappy stuff too. The bible as we know it is heavily censored - so all we really have is faith and goodwill.

mistake you make about Islam. it's very political. very very. look at how Pakistan was carved out of India by Muslims? you can't survive with them. they are cool when as minority but pray they dont get near 50% then you'll know the true force of their intention.

there's a thin line between moderation and radicalism. the west will surely suffer for allowing "freedom" because those people have capitalized on that as a tool. wonder why they scream freedom in west but ban Christians from entering Medina and mecca?

I laugh at the west because when it's time for the big show. it will take nothing to bring out the beast in a nerd. trust me on that one.

Blackfire:
Imagine that a man somewhere in Denmark drew picture of an Arabian man... *what next?* the whole Muslim world goes into frenzy of tears sorrows and blood.


But multiple bomb blasted in yathrib , the very heart of where Islam was formatted... *what did the Muslim world do?*... Silence.

To those of u who are Muslims u need to ask yourself questions.. Something is really wrong with Islam... *are u angry at my statements? * .... You should be angry at the monster Islam ve raised all this century.

Dayuuum!


This shiit is deep..

Well said my friend.. Well Said.

I can't add nothing to this. Let the Muslims chew on this.

Owliver:
mistake you make about Islam. it's very political. very very. look at how Pakistan was carved out of India by Muslims? you can't survive with them. they are cool when as minority but pray they dont get near 50% then you'll know the true force of their intention.

there's a thin line between moderation and radicalism. the west will surely suffer for allowing "freedom" because those people have capitalized on that as a tool. wonder why they scream freedom in west but ban Christians from entering Medina and mecca?

I laugh at the west because when it's time for the big show. it will take nothing to bring out the beast in a nerd. trust me on that one.

Think as you please. We cover our butts when it comes to terrorist acts :-)

foolinlove:


Think as you please. We cover our butts when it comes to terrorist acts :-)

hmm you know their birth rate? while your busy doing family planning they marry 4 wives. they multiply and when they get many they create no go areas. it's the issue in northern Nigeria. they were conquered with same tactic. OK google and read.

Central African Republic religious crises
Uthman danfidio jihad
History of Islam in Lebanon
Problem of Islam in England(one of main reasons for brexit)

hey how you coping with your Asian refugees?

aminusanti:

indeed, eye opener to ur fellow infidels
may God dash u brain to start reasoning.

why do u abuse me to get brain? I only quoted the Qur'an and hadith also the founding Islamic scholars like Al Tabari and the rest. why would God dash me brain? lol for posting wat Islam says? ok o. let's continue.

foolinlove:


Think as you please. We cover our butts when it comes to terrorist acts :-)

What a lame response to a well reasoned argument by Owliver.

now to you foolinlove, are u a Muslim, if not then u are an infidel according to Islam. I am a Christian cos I believe in Christ as Son of God almighty. I also believe God is in three- Father, Son and Spirit. now look at these and how the quran teaches Muslims to handle us, say every religion is extremist.

Owliver:
hmm you know their birth rate? while your busy doing family planning they marry 4 wives. they multiply and when they get many they create no go areas. it's the issue in northern Nigeria. they were conquered with same tactic. OK google and read.

Central African Republic religious crises
Uthman danfidio jihad
History of Islam in Lebanon
Problem of Islam in England(one of main reasons for brexit)

hey how you coping with your Asian refugees?

Ok well you know that I was speaking in terms of islam in the west, not the east.

I have some muslim friends. They seem ok. Haven't tried to convert me or kill me, or even threatened that type of behaviour. They've stated to me categorically that muslims in the east gives muslims in the west a bad name.

I really can't speak to your experience, but I'm not going to turn to hatred as an answer. I don't even know that there is an answer.

Yaksson:
now to you foolinlove, are u a Muslim, if not then u are an infidel according to Islam. I am a Christian cos I believe in Christ as Son of God almighty. I also believe God is in three- Father, Son and Spirit. now look at these and how the quran teaches Muslims to handle us, say every religion is extremist.

I didn't say every religion is extremist. When did I say that? Quote me.

dorox:

What a lame response to a well reasoned argument by Owliver.

He's laughing ay me personally because I don't propagate hatred, but at the same time knows the west is mostly biased against muslims. The country I live in (please don't mention names) has a notoriously racist foreign policy - Owliver knows that well.

foolinlove:


Ok well you know that I was speaking in terms of islam in the west, not the east.

I have some muslim friends. They seem ok. Haven't tried to convert me or kill me, or even threatened that type of behaviour. They've stated to me categorically that muslims in the east gives muslims in the west a bad name.

I really can't speak to your experience, but I'm not going to turn to hatred as an answer. I don't even know that there is an answer.

yes ofcos when they are minority they are lovely. I told you it takes little or nothing to turn the hate switch in their brains. how do you think Isis recruit cool dudes from west? knowledge is power. and you under estimate it.

when they become majority someone from Saudi gives the go. preaching changes. knowledge changes. wild animals emerge. if you understand psychology you'd get better.

it happens here in northern Nigeria. friends have killed friends. you should understand that the humans in west are wired as humans in Mozambique or Zimbabwe. no difference except knowledge. if you know what I mean.

these things has been happening through history. but who fails to learn repeats it. no one is born bad or good. knowledge(religion, society, education) makes a man.

foolinlove:


He's laughing ay me personally because I don't propagate hatred, but at the same time knows the west is mostly biased against muslims. The country I live in (please don't mention names) has a notoriously racist foreign policy - Owliver knows that well.

Lolz I will have to tell you some things you'd need.

Yaksson:

why do u abuse me to get brain? I only quoted the Qur'an and hadith also the founding Islamic scholars like Al Tabari and the rest. why would God dash me brain? lol for posting wat Islam says? ok o. let's continue.

i am praying for u to get brain not abusing u bcus from all indication you r lacking a good one...your post r very lame ask ur other infidel friends on NL they already know the reply to ur queries..pls carry on posting your views and don't forget to ask ur parents if something can be done about islam and its followers and ask also why is it still the fastest growing religion despite your effort in spreading falsehood...
peace

Owliver:
yes ofcos when they are minority they are lovely. I told you it takes little or nothing to turn the hate switch in their brains. how do you think Isis recruit cool dudes from west? knowledge is power. and you under estimate it.

when they become majority someone from Saudi gives the go. preaching changes. knowledge changes. wild animals emerge. if you understand psychology you'd get better.

it happens here in northern Nigeria. friends have killed friends. you should understand that the humans in west are wired as humans in Mozambique or Zimbabwe. no difference except knowledge. if you know what I mean.

these things has been happening through history. but who fails to learn repeats it. no one is born bad or good. knowledge(religion, society, education) makes a man.

I understand herd mentality. And I think this can be identified in Christians when the world trade centres were bombed. It flipped switches. Many previously moderate people became hateful towards muslims. A lot of shite happened after that...

There are cases of recruitment happening where I am.

But a lot of the time, the individuals that have been recruited are those with known issues - like prolonged unemployment and social isolation (rejection by girls, no friends etc.). Those can make a person angry. And anger leads to blame, which leads to assignment of blame. In this case, they blame western ideals and join the violent muslim movement. If only they had got laid more often lol

I don't know how it works in your area of the world. But for the most part, muslims here aren't too radical. They're embarrassed by the east.

The KKK doesn't speak for Christianity, why should Boko Haram speak for Islam?

In any case, I'm well protected where I am. Armchair socialism is a wonderful privilege I can exercise. I just can't bring myself to tar everyone with the same brush and then say I hate them all.

foolinlove:


I understand herd mentality. And I think this can be identified in Christians when the world trade centres were bombed. It flipped switches. Many previously moderate people became hateful towards muslims. A lot of shite happened after that...

There are cases of recruitment happening where I am.

But a lot of the time, the individuals that have been recruited are those with known issues - like prolonged unemployment and social isolation (rejection by girls, no friends etc.). Those can make a person angry. And anger leads to blame, which leads to assignment of blame. In this case, they blame western ideals and join the violent muslim movement. If only they had got laid more often lol

I don't know how it works in your area of the world. But for the most part, muslims here aren't too radical. They're embarrassed by the east.

The KKK doesn't speak for Christianity, why should Boko Haram speak for Islam?

In any case, I'm well protected where I am. Armchair socialism is a wonderful privilege I can exercise. I just can't bring myself to tar everyone with the same brush and then say I hate them all.

OK I get you. Lolz the laid part got me laughing real bad. aaaawwww I feel for them though. help a dude. save a soul even if it's hand job.

hahahaha

Owliver:
OK I get you. Lolz the laid part got me laughing real bad. aaaawwww I feel for them though. help a dude. save a soul even if it's hand job.

hahahaha

Lol

Everyone wants to belong

foolinlove:

Lol
Everyone wants to belong

you are wicked

aminusanti:


i am praying for u to get brain not abusing u bcus from all indication you r lacking a good one...your post r very lame ask ur other infidel friends on NL they already know the reply to ur queries..pls carry on posting your views and don't forget to ask ur parents if something can be done about islam and its followers and ask also why is it still the fastest growing religion despite your effort in spreading falsehood...
peace

so quoting the quran is now a form of spreading falsehood? wait young man, are these verses not in ur al qur'an kareem? please and please dont have anything to say? shut up and observe. mr [size=15pt]brain[/size][size=15pt][/size]

Yaksson:

so quoting the quran is now a form of spreading falsehood? wait young man, are these verses not in ur al qur'an kareem? please and please dont have anything to say? shut up and observe. mr [size=15pt]brain[/size][size=15pt][/size]

Ur copy n paste wont help mr critic. You should wonder why no one is there to answer you because your queries are too lame to be given attention.
let me help u with simple solution on how u can get to know the answer to all your queries.
1st go to the same google that u use to search for islamic violent/killing verses and now search for each verse context or tafsir it will surely give u the exact context on why, when, where, who, how and whose of each verse for better understanding n stop wasting ur time pls.
peace

aminusanti:

Ur copy n paste wont help mr critic. You should wonder why no one is there to answer you because your queries are too lame to be given attention.
let me help u with simple solution on how u can get to know the answer to all your queries.
1st go to the same google that u use to search for islamic violent/killing verses and now search for each verse context or tafsir it will surely give u the exact context on why, when, where, who, how and whose of each verse for better understanding n stop wasting ur time pls.
peace

so ur quran, the book written by alah is not complete, we need a tafsir written by humans to complete it? marvelous pls continue>

Yaksson:

so ur quran, the book written by alah is not complete, we need a tafsir written by humans to complete it? marvelous pls continue>

ask ur parents to explain to u what tafsir stands for

aminusanti:

repent? How?

turn away from your wicked ways. Give your life to Jesus Christ. Believe He is the Son of God who died to save you from sins. Then follow Him

terrezo2002:
turn away from your wicked ways. Give your life to Jesus Christ. Believe He is the Son of God who died to save you from sins. Then follow Him

what are your proofs he is son of God and he will save me?

aminusanti:


what are your proofs he is son of God and he will save me?

The Spirit of God bears witness with my spirit that He is the Son of God.
More so. I had a personal encounter with Him. His presence is always with me. He speaks to me and all the words He spoke in the holy bible, I confirm to be true