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Re: The Western Nigeria, Nigerians And The Truth by Igboic: 8:57pm On Jul 11, 2016 |
[b] Real identity "My mother is from Iseyin in Oyo State, while my father is from Ilorin in Kwara State. My great-great grandfather originated from Mali and I am talking about some 150 to 200 years ago. And they are Fulani and that is where we got our Fulani connection from. My great grandfather settled in Ilorin preaching the religion of Islam. A section of Ilorin came from Gwandu and they were religious, but my people came there as practising Muslims from Mali with their own Quran. In fact, the Emir and I used to joke that we had our own Quran and that nobody gave us Quran. My great-grandfather brought our own Quran to Ilorin from Mali to Agbaji where we settled. The Agbaji quarters is about 200 to 300 years old. Over the years, religious piety and devotion have led the prohibition of drumming (in whatever circumstance) in the area. But because of our connection with the Southern people, a lot of Yoruba are always in Ilorin and so we speak the same language. If you look at the Ilorin people, the real Ilorin people like Saraki for example, the culture and their ways share affinity with those of the far Northern Nigeria. That accounts for the difference you observe between us and, particularly, people of the South-West, despite the existence, now, of Yoruba as a common language. I leave people to say whatever they like about me. Some people even say I am from Ogun State and some even say I am from Togo but I know where I am from. Even, not long ago, I had a letter inviting me to join in the formation of a Mali-Fulani Organization and that I should be its chairman. What about your ancestral lineage? People have accused you of bearing Alhaji Abubakar Saraki when you needed votes from the North, Chief Olusola Saraki when you needed votes from the South-West and in the South-East and South-South, you answered Dr. Sola Saraki. How do you reconcile these differences? People are just reading political meanings to my actions. My Islamic name is Abubakar. When were growing up in Lagos in those days, unless you were a Christian or bore a native indigenous name, you couldn’t get a school. If I wanted to be admitted to a school, I had to drop Abubakar in favour of Sola as virtually all the schools belonged to Christian organizations. It is not correct that I was changing names to garner votes. Politicians invent those kinds of stories against their opponents. You, yourself, should know who you are". [/b] |
Re: The Western Nigeria, Nigerians And The Truth by Nobody: 8:58pm On Jul 11, 2016 |
shukuokukobambi:the boy you quoted is just as relentlessly stupid as NRI 3 Likes |
Re: The Western Nigeria, Nigerians And The Truth by shukuokukobambi: 8:59pm On Jul 11, 2016 |
omenka: Na dem sabi and na their problem. If the mumu albino like, he can sell them another aba made biabia passport for N20,000 like uwazurike milked them, e no concern me because na family affair. I just wish they get serious with the agitations and get out of the Union. It'll be better for them and us. 1 Like |
Re: The Western Nigeria, Nigerians And The Truth by Igboic: 9:07pm On Jul 11, 2016 |
shukuokukobambi: Paul Anber's essay "Modernization and Political Disintegration: Nigeria and the Ibos" published in the journal of Modern African Studies vol. 5, No 2 (Sep, 1967) 163-179. See pp 171-172 for excerpt: " '' A system of Universal primary education was introduced in Eastern Nigeria in 1953, though the mission schools had already prospered in the Region long before then. Despite the fact that there was a requirement for limited contributory fees, education continued to be very much in demand. Even at the time when universal primary education was first introduced, the percentage of the population over seven years of age who were literate was higher in the East than in any other Region: East, 10.6 per cent; West 9.5 percent; North, 0.9 percent. Since 1959, the East has had more teachers and pupils than any other area of the country, with the heaviest emphasis on primary education. Figures for elementary and secondary education indicate that the approximate ratio of teachers to population in 1963 was 1 to every 1,500 in the East, 1 to every 2,500 in th West, and 1 for every 10,000 in the north. Other statistical data reveal how rapidly the standard of living rose among Ibos. The East had the most extensive hospital facilities in the country by 1965, the largest regional production of electricity in the country by 1954, and the greatest number of vehicle registrations by 1963. The economic orientation of the Ibos was also reflected through membership of credit associations:in 1963 the East had 68,220 individual members, the west 5,776, and the north a mere 2,407." ''... His source was the Annual Abstract of Statistics ( Federal Office of Statistics, Lagos, 1965) 1 Like |
Re: The Western Nigeria, Nigerians And The Truth by MayorofLagos(m): 9:11pm On Jul 11, 2016 |
@igboic, AD was a Yoruba party, of course it was always going to throw up a Yoruba candidate. Obj was never a member of PDP, much more to even be thrown up as its flag bearer. The Northerners were unsure of the unpredictable but volatile Yoruba politics and at a time when every strata of Yoruba social class is toeing the same line and their demand is consistent on the one issue of political robbery, there is only one solution to the problem and that is to pacify the anger and restore what Yoruba say was rightfully theirs.....the presidential throne! Ekwueme was already the flag bearer of PDP and was to contest against Falae of AD. The Ibos did not know this but the Northerners were wise to see that if PDP fielded a non-Yoruba against a Yoruba AD the entire West and elements in North Central who were opposed to core North would vote for Falae. Coming on the heels of their resentment Yorubas will assert complete autonomy on the political future of the country if Falae won. They needed an alternative, a counter to AD victory. Hence the emergence of Obasanjo. Ekwueme, a founding member of PDP was displaced to insert Obasanjo. Obasanjo in turn played fast on North but instead of bringing Ibo to succeed YarAdua he elevated Ijaw above into political succession ahead of Ibo. 2 Likes |
Re: The Western Nigeria, Nigerians And The Truth by mercyville: 9:13pm On Jul 11, 2016 |
Igboic:You are a very funny guy.Every discernible person knew that SW was first in everything development in the 60s,even Nigeria which included your people before the war,borrowed money from the SW.It was the unitary system that your brother used in slowing the progress of the SW.Hatred and jealousy thingy. READ: [b] Awolowo was also the country's leading social democratic politician.[1] He supported limited public ownership and limited central planning in government.[1] He believed that the state should channel Nigeria's resources into education and state-led infrastructural development.[8] Controversially, and at considerable expense, he introduced free primary education for all and free health care for children in the Western Region, established the first television service in Africa in 1959, and the Oduduwa Group, all of which were financed from the highly lucrative cocoa industry which was the mainstay of the regional economy. Free Universal Primary Education and Health Awolowo pioneered free primary education in Nigeria in the Western Region and also free health care. Although Awolowo failed to win the 1979 and 1983 presidential elections of the Second Republic, he polled the second highest number of votes and his policies of free education and limited free health were carried out throughout all the states controlled by his party, the Unity Party of Nigeria. Legacy Awolowo is best remembered for his remarkable integrity, ardent nationalism, principled and virile opposition, and dogged federalistic convictions. His party was the first to move the motion for Nigeria's independence in the federal parliament and he obtained internal self-government for the Western Region in 1957. He is credited with coining the name "naira" for the Nigerian standard monetary unit and helped to finance the Civil War and preserve the federation without borrowing. He built the Liberty Stadium in Ibadan, the first of its kind in Africa; established the WNTV, the first television station in Africa; erected the first skyscraper in tropical Africa: the Cocoa House (still the tallest in Ibadan) and ran a widely respected civil service in the Western Region. Awolowo was reputedly admired by Ghana's Kwame Nkrumah, and some of his disciples in the South-West have continued to invoke his name and the policies of his party, the Action Group, during campaigns, while his welfarist policies have influenced politicians in most of the other geopolitical zones of the nation. He was a Senior Advocate of Nigeria and Chancellor of the University of Ife (his brainchild) and Ahmadu Bello University. He held many chieftaincy titles, including those of the Losi of Ikenne, Lisa of Ijeun, Asiwaju of Remo, Odofin of Owo, Ajagunla of Ado-Ekiti, Apesin of Osogbo, Odole of Ife and, among the Ibibios, Obong Ikpa Isong of Ibibioland. He was also conferred with the highest national honour of Grand Commander of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, a rank and a title that have ordinarily been bestowed upon the country's presidents. Many institutions in Nigeria have honoured him, and some regional and national institutions are named after him, including Obafemi Awolowo University in Ile-Ife, Osun State (formerly University of Ife), Obafemi Awolowo Stadium (formerly the Liberty Stadium) and the Obafemi Awolowo Institute of Government and Public Policy in Lekki, Lagos State. His portrait is on the ₦100 naira note. He was also the author of several publications on the political structure and future prospects of Nigeria, the most prominent of which are Path to Nigerian Freedom, Thoughts on the Nigerian Constitution, and Strategies and Tactics of the People's Republic of Nigeria. In 1992, the Obafemi Awolowo Foundation was founded as an independent, non-profit, non-partisan organisation committed to furthering the symbiotic interaction of public policy and relevant scholarship with a view to promoting the overall development of the Nigerian nation. The Foundation was launched by the President of Nigeria at that time, General Ibrahim Babangida, at the Liberty Stadium, Ibadan.[12] However, his most important bequests (styled Awoism) are his exemplary integrity, his welfarism, his contributions to hastening the process of decolonisation and his consistent and reasoned advocacy of federalism-based on ethno-linguistic self-determination and uniting politically strong states-as the best basis for Nigerian unity. Awolowo died peacefully at his Ikenne home, the Efunyela Hall (so named after his mother), on 9 May 1987, at the age of 78 and was laid to rest in Ikenne, amid tributes across political and ethno-religious divides. [/b] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obafemi_Awolowo 3 Likes |
Re: The Western Nigeria, Nigerians And The Truth by mercyville: 9:17pm On Jul 11, 2016 |
MayorofLagos: You think he would understand you?They are not politically savvy.It is like you are speaking or writing in greek. 2 Likes |
Re: The Western Nigeria, Nigerians And The Truth by mercyville: 9:20pm On Jul 11, 2016 |
Igboic: You could be right but by the 60s,Yoruba took over until date. |
Re: The Western Nigeria, Nigerians And The Truth by shukuokukobambi: 9:20pm On Jul 11, 2016 |
Double post |
Re: The Western Nigeria, Nigerians And The Truth by shukuokukobambi: 9:22pm On Jul 11, 2016 |
Igboic: Congrats. Now how does this cancel my statement that Western region was progressive and self sustaining? Are you bereft of self esteem? I asked you to show me how western nigeria was being fed by lagos and you pull out an article that has nothing to do with western region? How does this article help you get your biabia? Are you cursed to always be focus less? |
Re: The Western Nigeria, Nigerians And The Truth by IkpuMmadu: 9:23pm On Jul 11, 2016 |
omenka: This old man. You still haven't grown ...they just mudered your people by Fulani yesterday instead of you to be solemn you are here following your co Yoruba travellers People that there words re no longer valued You will die of hate |
Re: The Western Nigeria, Nigerians And The Truth by Igboic: 9:29pm On Jul 11, 2016 |
MayorofLagos: OBJ was a powerless man in prison. He had no powers whatsoever. Yorubas were powerless as well, if they were not, Abiola wouldn't have died. It's ridiculous for Yorubas to say that the North that refused to give up power to Yoruba after your useless protests in Lagos were quelled by the North and didn't do nada to change Abiola's fate, will now turn around to now give away power on a platter of gold to Yorubas because of Abiola? I mean what's the worst Yorubas could have done? Start another round of protests and be pacified with force all over again by the North. Power concedes nothing without demand, Yorubas had and still do not have the wherewithal to demand power from the North, Abiola protests and it's futility proved that already. OBJ emergence had nothing to do with Yorubas, OBJ is a pipette the Caucasian powers brought in to do their bidings that Abacha had started resisting. The North had to step aside. Yoruba alliance with Kwara cannot win a national election, the Igbo and core North will nullify that, Awo already tried that with UMBC and it failed. Nobody is or was afraid of Yorubas, the whole country had seen your worst during Abiola protests, and it was easily contained. Stop deluding yourselves. |
Re: The Western Nigeria, Nigerians And The Truth by Yorubanews: 9:33pm On Jul 11, 2016 |
I know one afonja will try to ban me for this, but I will speak my mind. [size=15pt]Shame on Yorubas who kept mute when Lagos/Ogun attacked by Biafran terrorists, but made noise on social media for Benue attack. Shame on Yorubas who still want one Nigeria, knowing that they're hated by their neighbors. Shame on Yorubas who try to force one Nigeria on us while Yorubaland suffers from effects of massive migration. Shame on Yoruba leaders for not taking advantage of rich resources and human labor in Yorubaland and still insist on SS oil like their Northern/Southeastern counterparts. Shame on Yoruba leaders for failing to revive our education sector Shame on Yoruba leader for failing to revive our agricultural process. Shame on Yoruba leaders for failing us. And eternal shame on one-Nigeria Yorubas for being so shortsighted. Yorubaland can survive without Nigeria. Shame. Shame. Shame!!![/size] 2 Likes |
Re: The Western Nigeria, Nigerians And The Truth by Igboic: 9:35pm On Jul 11, 2016 |
mercyville: You can keep deceiving yourself. |
Re: The Western Nigeria, Nigerians And The Truth by shukuokukobambi: 9:43pm On Jul 11, 2016 |
Igboic: No wahala. You can believe that if it makes you sleep well tonight What you can't argue against is that Ekwueme formed PDP with some folks and OBJ strolled in to take the crown and seize the entire apparatus and hierarchy of the PDP, using and discarding 5 of your sons as Senate presidents Then the same OBJ fvcked you and others very well for 8 years. When he got done, he snookered the north by foisting a sick Yaradua on the throne and attaching an ijaw instead of yeeboe to him When that one lost his senses from your eternal sucking of his balls, OBJ and Tinubu joined forces to chase him away and bring in buhari So you see, for 16 years, a Yoruba man OBJ and another Yoruba man, Tinubu have decided the political destiny of this useless contraption of a country. Till date, the man OBJ still gets consulted by his former subordinate, buhari in running the country I think I could live with that in the current circumstances 1 Like |
Re: The Western Nigeria, Nigerians And The Truth by ConqueredWest: 9:46pm On Jul 11, 2016 |
MayorofLagos: A comment by a typical AFONJA south west of Nigeria |
Re: The Western Nigeria, Nigerians And The Truth by Yorubanews: 9:47pm On Jul 11, 2016 |
YoruBanger: They're the groups of Yorubas we should all be aware of. They're like afonja, ready to lose Yorubaland to the highest bidder. Unfortunately, if we ignore their likes, we'll lose them like Ibos lost Igweocha to Ijaws. We can't leave them behind, else we'll regret it later. They're the types we watch carefully and correct asap. Why Yoruba afonjas are louder than their anti-Biafran Ibo counterpart, I will never understand. They're always trying to form sophistication for others and not for the Yoruba cause. 1 Like |
Re: The Western Nigeria, Nigerians And The Truth by shukuokukobambi: 9:51pm On Jul 11, 2016 |
Yorubanews: Abeg while I agree with all other points, nothing like Biafra terrorists attacked Ogun. Let's not whip up unnecessary sentiments abeg. If there were Biafran terrorists, they would have attacked the army in Onitsha. 1 Like |
Re: The Western Nigeria, Nigerians And The Truth by Nobody: 9:53pm On Jul 11, 2016 |
ConqueredWest:what have you done about the 3million wasted ones? 3 Likes |
Re: The Western Nigeria, Nigerians And The Truth by Igboic: 9:58pm On Jul 11, 2016 |
shukuokukobambi: I don't see how the above uplifted the living standard of a Yoruba commoner. *shrugs* Same OBJ that was begging Atiku for second tenure? Hmm |
Re: The Western Nigeria, Nigerians And The Truth by Yorubanews: 10:08pm On Jul 11, 2016 |
shukuokukobambi: They're your friends www.nairaland.com/attachments/3915403_biafranprotest_jpeg23c3b6c861be404c73b05e350beb4279 www.nairaland.com/attachments/3915404_b2_jpega4c87d01a60c71e2f6b6f4bc06e914af www.nairaland.com/attachments/3915405_b3_jpeg227387575f702aed07d5137ae85c29b5 www.nairaland.com/attachments/3915406_b4_jpeg3da6cda1cb6585f26d0a0125b1f45a79 |
Re: The Western Nigeria, Nigerians And The Truth by shukuokukobambi: 10:10pm On Jul 11, 2016 |
Yorubanews: And somehow somehow, you got the video that these guys attacked Ogun communities? 1 Like |
Re: The Western Nigeria, Nigerians And The Truth by Nobody: 10:10pm On Jul 11, 2016 |
Igboic:Since u know so much about saraki family, pls kindly tell us d name of olusola Saraki's father (bukolas grandfather) olusola saraki claimed they came from mali over 200yrs ago and yet he is d only saraki in entire ilorin, what about his father and grandfather? Even in agbaji, the only saraki is olusola no other saraki in agbaji(where was adopted) 1 Like |
Re: The Western Nigeria, Nigerians And The Truth by Yorubanews: 10:12pm On Jul 11, 2016 |
shukuokukobambi: Do you have videos of Fulani Herdsmen attacking Enugu? |
Re: The Western Nigeria, Nigerians And The Truth by shukuokukobambi: 10:14pm On Jul 11, 2016 |
Igboic: I like this. In fact he also begged ibori as we heard. Then begged odili too Now what has been the lot of the Atiku since then? what happened to the ibori since then? Let me say like OBJ, "I dey laugh" and "I dey kampe" Oya Bring up another idiocy 1 Like |
Re: The Western Nigeria, Nigerians And The Truth by Yorubanews: 10:15pm On Jul 11, 2016 |
yemaldo: You're wasting your time. They'd rather want to carry slippers for Fulani than for Yorubas. In Ibo mind, being slaves to Saraki means being slaves to Fulani. They prefer that. We've had this discussion hundreds of times on NL. If na one half Ibo boy wey become minister in UK, Ibo from his momma side, dem go call am Ibo. No mind those people |
Re: The Western Nigeria, Nigerians And The Truth by shukuokukobambi: 10:19pm On Jul 11, 2016 |
Yorubanews: No I don't. Do you? |
Re: The Western Nigeria, Nigerians And The Truth by shukuokukobambi: 10:23pm On Jul 11, 2016 |
yemaldo: Forget them abeg They're agitating for Biafra but spend all their time researching Saraki's lineage and dynasty If oloye picked Olusola because of a chance for education, why did he name his kids bukola, gbemi and lanre? For them to get educated in a christian school too? You'd also have to wonder when olusola, bukola, gbemi and lanre became Christian names 1 Like |
Re: The Western Nigeria, Nigerians And The Truth by Nobody: 10:23pm On Jul 11, 2016 |
Saraki Is Not From Kwara By Alhaji AbdulGaniyu Folorunsho Abdulrazak http://saharareporters.com/2010/12/09/saraki-not-kwara-alhaji-abdulganiyu-folorunsho-abdulrazak Bukola is a full blooded yoruba man from abeokuta 1 Like |
Re: The Western Nigeria, Nigerians And The Truth by Nobody: 10:27pm On Jul 11, 2016 |
shukuokukobambi:Don't mind those yeye people, imagine o, they came to Nigeria over 200yrs ago and we don't even know who is olusola's father or relatives with the same name(saraki) 1 Like |
Re: The Western Nigeria, Nigerians And The Truth by Yorubanews: 10:28pm On Jul 11, 2016 |
shukuokukobambi: No I don't. Your point? |
Re: The Western Nigeria, Nigerians And The Truth by shukuokukobambi: 10:31pm On Jul 11, 2016 |
Yorubanews: Stop playing the childish propaganda games of radio Biafra. The eternal chest beaters and ultimatum issuers CAN NEVER ATTACK OGUN. If they could, they would have started from the Burantashi boys using them for target practice at upper iweka. |
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