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Ukrainian tanks for strong Europe tank challenge 2017

one of the nozzle options for Item 30 engine for pakfa

looks like the diamond edges is there to improve reduction in thermal radiation

pakfa info graph

nemesis2u:
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If the Navy operates fighter jets and the Army operates gunships and transport helicopters, what then is the role of the Air Force? Are countries trying to make the Air Force obsolete it relegated to transport only?

nemesis2u:


2 types of countries have very large paramilitary forces

1.extreme security states (eg.china, N korea) where the dictator or the single party forces its writ on its citizens.

2.extreme democratic states (eg. india) where the citizens forces their writs on its government by any means possible.


see such a beautiful and concise explanation , almost poetic




ps: what u guys ?


i am an alien from planet DARWIN IV

SMH

nemesis2u:


only from a technical point of view .


what if i cover these DJ type drones with high performance anti laser reflective coatings, will it be enough to deflect laser beams from a low power laser weapon ?

couple them with on board sensors to raise alarm of being lased , the coating will buy the drone enough time to fly out of range of the short range laser weapon without serious damage

Won't that greatly increase the weight of the drive and reduces its payload (defeating the entire purpose) anyways you raised a good point.

PLAN hovercraft

jakeporeshenko:

Won't that greatly increase the weight of the drive and reduces its payload (defeating the entire purpose) anyways you raised a good point.

depends on the solution being implemented

u can have

anti laser paints

anti laser nano particle based coatings

etc
etc

for the DJ drone optical paints will do or even a layer of special Ablative coatings designed to reduce the impact of a beam.

the primary purpose will be to resist a first time hit from a low power laser weapon , once on board detectors give the alarm, the motors r cut off , making the drone fall like a stone , the laser weapon will be hard pressed to follow it , just before hitting the ground the onboard sensors will simply activate the drones motors . thus the drone will live to fight another day

plus u dont apply the coating all over the drone
u apply it only at places which have the highest probability of a hit from a laser beam.


same goes for aircraft's, RAM coatings r not applied all over but only on certain parts based on simulation studies and testing in RF anechoic test chambers.

Henry240:


If the Navy operates fighter jets and the Army operates gunships and transport helicopters, what then is the role of the Air Force? Are countries trying to make the Air Force obsolete it relegated to transport only?

so whats the point of having a wife ?

if a man can do the same with a mistress/GF/one night stand/a hole in the wall


it all about delegation of duties and have in place a robust command and control structure for every theater of war be it land air or sea.

todays war is all about combined arms warfare, with some overlapping responsibilities.

since reaction time has reduced considerable , it is imperative for land forces to attach air assets like attack helicopters etc into its order of battle so that every element can move, coordinate and attack / defend in support of each other, all whiten the command structure of the army for best possible reaction time, seamless integration and management of logistic trails.
eg.
indian army has the IGBs ( integrated battle groups ) these r self sufficient battle groups with integrated infantry, Armour, artillery, engineers, AD assets, air assets (attack / scout / transport helicopters) and logistic support elements . these r totally independent perse and can operate deep inside hostile areas without external support for a considerable duration.

Americans and Russians ones r more sophisticated

airforce today has little to do with CAS (combat air support) in support of the army. it is more concerned with destroying / disabling strategic targets and achieving air dominance over enemy air space , outer space and cyber domain.

that is why we have the term aerospace to describe the domain of todays airforce , in short instead of air force correct term would be aerospace force/command

jakeporeshenko:
PLAN hovercraft

technically that is ZUBR hover craft from Ukraine ,

complete TOT
the Ukrainians r really foolish
they killed their industry for short term cash benefits

now china doesn't even look at them.

moral of the story

never kill ur golden egg laying goose

jakeporeshenko:
PLAN hovercraft

Will Nigeria be getting any hovercrafts soon?

gabng:


Will Nigeria be getting any hovercrafts soon?

If we r bewitched to do so

Odunayaw:
If we r bewitched to do so

Thought the recent $187M FGN plans to spend on anti piracy includes Hovercrafts

jakeporeshenko:
PLAN hovercraft

If I'm not wrong that's a Jinsha 11 class LCAC displacing 70 T,max speed 55 knots, 27 m long,with 4 twin 14.5mms , costing 35mn$. As expected the Russkis have a bigger one,the Zubr,twice the size,twice the price,displacing 555 T. and a typically Russian ordnance load.

Armament:
4 × Strela-3 man-portable air defence missile system launchers, plus 32 anti-personnel missiles; or 2 x Strela 2 quad launchers, manual aiming, infrared homing to 6 km (3.7 mi) at Mach 1.5, maximum altitude of 2,500 m (8,200 ft)
2 × 30 mm AK-630 close in weapon systems with 6,000 rounds each, maximum range of 2 km (1.2 mi)
2 × 140 mm Ogon launchers, 22 rockets each with 132 rockets in total; or 2 x 122 mm retractable rocket launchers
Mines (one set of removable equipment for laying from 20 to 80 mines, depending on their types)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zubr-class_LCAC

Serious shore bombardment,AD,mine laying and the capacity to carry 3 MBTs and as battalion simultaneously! What's not to like!?

nemesis2u:


so whats the point of having a wife ?

if a man can do the same with a mistress/GF/one night stand/a hole in the wall


it all about delegation of duties and have in place a robust command and control structure for every theater of war be it land air or sea.

todays war is all about combined arms warfare, with some overlapping responsibilities.

since reaction time has reduced considerable , it is imperative for land forces to attach air assets like attack helicopters etc into its order of battle so that every element can move, coordinate and attack / defend in support of each other, all whiten the command structure of the army for best possible reaction time, seamless integration and management of logistic trails.
eg.
indian army has the IGBs ( integrated battle groups ) these r self sufficient battle groups with integrated infantry, Armour, artillery, engineers, AD assets, air assets (attack / scout / transport helicopters) and logistic support elements . these r totally independent perse and can operate deep inside hostile areas without external support for a considerable duration.

Americans and Russians ones r more sophisticated

airforce today has little to do with CAS (combat air support) in support of the army. it is more concerned with destroying / disabling strategic targets and achieving air dominance over enemy air space , outer space and cyber domain.

that is why we have the term aerospace to describe the domain of todays airforce , in short instead of air force correct term would be aerospace force/command

In other words the lo roles of gunship and transport are army aviation while the high roles requiring FSBs such as deep strike and/or air superiority are traditional air force. This is why the US air force was once an adjunct of the US Army and was known as the USAAF til 1947 when the army/air force dichotomy was recognised.

jakeporeshenko:

If there was a feminist on this thread .....

facts r facts,

real world is the domain of pragmatic, sensible and people alive to facts

while

cuckooland on the other hand is the domain of liberals feminists fundamentalists terrorists apologists


man and women, both have vulnerabilities and advantages as defined by their sex, and ofcourse there will be exceptions , exception is the driving force of evolution .

eq (my personal view)

women make for really good analysts

but r very risk averse , so generally dont make the cut for mission handling and coordination

but i know one women who is one of the best mission planners/coordinators i have seen.

only feminists aka FCB (female chauvinistic bit*hs ) indulge in stupid this versus that comparison

fighting for women rights is something i support, but i dont support is the tendency of FCBs hijacking the women rights issue.

a good women is a good women , a capable women is a capable women, she needs no certificate from anybody least of all from useless feminists.

feminism is an instrument of social war run by the west to change the social fabric of a target country , for good or for worse i leave it to u to decide.

a no nonsense women will thoroughly kick the butts of these feminists

and i guarantee that u will enjoy the spectacle

kikuyu1:


EXACTAMUNDO!! The Stockholm Syndrome is real-

Ideally,they'd be under close mental health professional surveillance for a couple of years.

also young girls r more vulnerable which is why i posted about it.

even with forced sexual relationship , provided the victim is with the perpetrator for a long time they develop a attachment to the perpetrator from a false sense of security.

its much like the stick and bread technique (also known as good guy bad guy technique)

where u give a good long thrashing to a terrorist

then u get another guy to give him food, show sympathy and gain his confidence

repeat the routine of good guy bad guy

untill the terrorist is fully in cahoots with the good guy

Indian active radar seeker for tactical missiles

it takes 10-15 years of work to come up with such technology intensive systems

nemesis2u:
Indian active radar seeker for tactical missiles

it takes 10-15 years of work to come up with such technology intensive systems

Actually takes a lot if you start from nothing without outside help during peace time.

MikeCZA:
Actually takes a lot if you start from nothing without outside help during peace time.

yeah

but then nobody will give u such tech in the first place, every component has to design tested fabricated and validated inhouse , u will need investments nearing close to 1 billions (will vary country to country).

cross - pollination from other projects (eg anti tank missile development etc ) will speed up the program though .

u missed this one

nemesis2u:


facts r facts,

real world is the domain of pragmatic, sensible and people alive to facts

while

cuckooland on the other hand is the domain of liberals feminists fundamentalists terrorists apologists


man and women, both have vulnerabilities and advantages as defined by their sex, and ofcourse there will be exceptions , exception is the driving force of evolution .

eq (my personal view)

women make for really good analysts

but r very risk averse , so generally dont make the cut for mission handling and coordination

but i know one women who is one of the best mission planners/coordinators i have seen.

only feminists aka FCB (female chauvinistic bit*hs ) indulge in stupid this versus that comparison

fighting for women rights is something i support, but i dont support is the tendency of FCBs hijacking the women rights issue.

a good women is a good women , a capable women is a capable women, she needs no certificate from anybody least of all from useless feminists.

feminism is an instrument of social war run by the west to change the social fabric of a target country , for good or for worse i leave it to u to decide.

a no nonsense women will thoroughly kick the butts of these feminists

and i guarantee that u will enjoy the spectacle

They're believers,beholden to their respective indoctrination,brainwashing,stupidity level-discussing or debating anything on any level with these types is what we call kupigia mbuzi guitar (guitar music for goats-an utterly useless gesture due to the low brainpower of the audience) . Which is why even here I prefer facts,figures or sights and sounds.

kikuyu1:


They're believers,beholden to their respective indoctrination,brainwashing,stupidity level-discussing or debating anything on any level with these types is what we call kupigia mbuzi guitar (guitar music for goats-an utterly useless gesture due to the low brainpower of the audience) . Which is why even here I prefer facts,figures or sights and sounds.

kupigia mbuzi guitar will memorize this one

feminists r anarchists -a soft weapon , they use of confrontist approach is their trademark to garner public support via sensationalist media.

importantly most feminist r some way or the other attached to foreign funded NGOs, try looking at any developing countries feminists orgs, u will realize the truth.

women who r actually working hard for female rights dont identify themselves with feminism.

they r more interested in bring about meaningful changes in the ground level not indulge in lofty and meaningless mumbo jumbo narrative of feminism.

the real good women working to uplift the downtrodden women rarely get the media highlight becz they r busy with their selfless work without caring for any recognition etc, unlike stupid feminists who r big on useless talks but low in real work /big on subversion activities.

do u know many feminist organization r impediments to prosecuting terrorists / sympathizers in many countries .

being different is cool for well to do useless people nowadays , they don't realize they r mere tools like a toilet paper use it and throw it.

India, Russia to ink deal on 5th-generation fighter aircraft design

a pun from me : according to indian standard time or russian standard time

if indian standard time i will not hold my breath

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PTI:

After years of delay, India and Russia are likely to soon ink a “milestone” pact to finalise the detailed design for the fifth-generation fighter aircraft (FGFA) and move ahead with the multi-billion dollar co-development project.

Government sources said almost all the ground work has been completed to finalise the deal for design of the jet as well as some other critical issues. “The contract for the detailed design would be signed soon and that will be a major milestone. It should be signed in the second half of the year,” a top official involved in the negotiations with Russia on the project said.

Asked whether India has linked the project to full-scale transfer of technology, the official, who requested anonymity, said both the countries are co-developers and India will have equal rights over the the technology.

“We are co-developers. There is nothing called technology transfer in this project. India has equal rights. We will have the wherewithal to continue production. We are equal partner in the project,” he said.

In the negotiations for the project, India had insisted that it must get all the required codes and access to critical technology so that it can upgrade the aircraft as per its requirements.

In February last year, India and Russia had revived talks on the project after a clearance from then Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar.

Since then, a lot of issues related to work share, IPR and technology transfer among others have been sorted out between the two sides, along with the monetary commitments.

In 2007, India and Russia had inked an inter-governmental pact for the FGFA project.

In December 2010, India had agreed to pay USD 295 million towards the preliminary design of the fighter, which is called in India as the ‘Perspective Multi-role Fighter’ (PMF). However, negotiations faced various hurdles in the subsequent years.

Sources said the work on various co-development projects have been expedited following the government’s renewed focus on modernisation of the armed forces.

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note : actual point on contention with russia was that india wanted to get her share of profits from the sale of any aircraft based on FGFA.hope that was solved along with TOT/workshare/IPR.

india got cheated out of her share in SU30 , when export variants based on SU30 was sold after india invested millions on dollars on its development.

nemesis2u:
India, Russia to ink deal on 5th-generation fighter aircraft design

a pun from me : according to indian standard time or russian standard time

if indian standard time i will not hold my breath

********************************************
article copy paste

PTI:

After years of delay, India and Russia are likely to soon ink a “milestone” pact to finalise the detailed design for the fifth-generation fighter aircraft (FGFA) and move ahead with the multi-billion dollar co-development project.

Government sources said almost all the ground work has been completed to finalise the deal for design of the jet as well as some other critical issues. “The contract for the detailed design would be signed soon and that will be a major milestone. It should be signed in the second half of the year,” a top official involved in the negotiations with Russia on the project said.

Asked whether India has linked the project to full-scale transfer of technology, the official, who requested anonymity, said both the countries are co-developers and India will have equal rights over the the technology.

“We are co-developers. There is nothing called technology transfer in this project. India has equal rights. We will have the wherewithal to continue production. We are equal partner in the project,” he said.

In the negotiations for the project, India had insisted that it must get all the required codes and access to critical technology so that it can upgrade the aircraft as per its requirements.

In February last year, India and Russia had revived talks on the project after a clearance from then Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar.

Since then, a lot of issues related to work share, IPR and technology transfer among others have been sorted out between the two sides, along with the monetary commitments.

In 2007, India and Russia had inked an inter-governmental pact for the FGFA project.

In December 2010, India had agreed to pay USD 295 million towards the preliminary design of the fighter, which is called in India as the ‘Perspective Multi-role Fighter’ (PMF). However, negotiations faced various hurdles in the subsequent years.

Sources said the work on various co-development projects have been expedited following the government’s renewed focus on modernisation of the armed forces.

*****************************************
note : actual point on contention with russia was that india wanted to get her share of profits from the sale of any aircraft based on FGFA.hope that was solved along with TOT/workshare/IPR.

india got cheated out of her share in SU30 , when export variants based on SU30 was sold after india invested millions on dollars on its development.

the Russians may give you a downwashed version. to protect it's own patent

https://youtu.be/S2QlvglMKA*A

a excellent video

the video shows a classic way to destroy a well protected bunker built into a hill side, shot straight inside the gun window of the hostile bunker

remove the "*" between the A*A to get the link

i have done so becz the video headline identifies the 2 countries involved in this and as such might lead to unnecessary misunderstanding here.

if anyone wants to reply/comment plz do not identify the 2 countries by mentioning their name , discuss what happened in purely technical view

giles14:
the Russians may give you a downwashed version. to protect it's own patent

Indians r by now more than technically adept to see through this ,

why do u think indians r bargaining so much for and that too for such a long time ?

look at the rafale deal , how many countries ended up with the extra benefits when they bought the rafales same as india ? nobody.

indians r generally stupid in terms of self defeating attitude/actions , but they have their moments of brilliance

do u know the whole documentation process for the trials and related follow through etc was patented and is being sought by other countries.

nemesis2u:


Indians r by now more than technically adept to see through this ,

why do u think indians r bargaining so much for and that too for such a long time ?

look at the rafale deal , how many countries ended up with the extra benefits when they bought the rafales same as india ? nobody.

indians r generally stupid in terms of self defeating attitude/actions , but they have their moments of brilliance

do u know the whole documentation process for the trials and related follow through etc was patented and is being sought by other countries.

lets wait n see

giles14:
the Russians may give you a downwashed version. to protect it's own patent

addon to the above reply

to a extent u might be correct factual at least becz

1.FGFA is different from PAKFA

2.indian requirements r different from russians

3.certain core technologies will never involve TOT like engines , radars will only involve transfer of object codes not the source codes if FGFA ends up using the PAKFA radar complex.

but if the radar is a derivative of the PAKFA radar complex then indians will get the source code.

so u r observations r correct perse, but not in the right context.

sorry for the mis information above where i too got the context wrong

best will be to wait for the real deal then we will be sure

giles14:
lets wait n see

with u

if i am still alive till that happens

if ur married u might end up with grandchildren's

gabng:


Thought the recent $187M FGN plans to spend on anti piracy includes Hovercrafts

no it doesn't