Dtruthspeaker:


The Bible never claimed divinity. It only gave Reports.

For what you people call contradictions, we have severally turn them to shreds such that we are tired of answering. Every 3 to 4 months one new none-knowing person will always say the Bible has contradictions and we are tired of seeing this.

Why don't people check first before they post!

Is the bible of God?
Yes or No

alfarouq:


Is the bible of God?
Yes or No

The Bible said "and God Said". I believe you can come to a right decision if you want to.

alfarouq:


Is that so? Continue

The recent Abuja and Sokoto murders proves it.

If this debate is to prove any religion wrong while glorifying another, then it is pointless. Every religion have flaws and I am becoming more aware of this daily as I experience life.

ToyBoyAaron:
If this debate is to prove any religion wrong while glorifying another, then it is pointless. Every religion have flaws and I am becoming more aware of this daily as I experience life.

Not True! The Tenets of the Bible have no flaws but the Bible was written to people who are greatly evil and very wicked.

So, you can not reasonably expect to see such evil people properly not carrying out its counsels, meanwhile, it is these peoples you are using to base flaws.

How erroneous, your position is.

Dtruthspeaker:


Not True! The Tenets of the Bible have no flaws but the Bible was written to people who are greatly evil and very wicked.

So, you can not expect to see people properly carrying out its counsels.

Every human has the tendency to be evil or good. I don't know much about Islam but from what I have seen I don't want any religion. Now about Christianity; I am born and brought up as one and I have felt and experienced power no doubt. There is more to the spiritual than physical but religion is messed up big time

ToyBoyAaron:
If this debate is to prove any religion wrong while glorifying another, then it is pointless. Every religion have flaws and I am becoming more aware of this daily as I experience life.

If you think this is all about winning a debate like you did in Secondary school then I am really sorry for you. This is a serious thing that affects people's eternity. It is going to determine if one will be among those saved or those condemned. The least we can do is to help each other to make the right choice.

ToyBoyAaron:

Every human has the tendency to be evil or good.

Yes they do, but we see that they are more wicked and evil doing than good doing.

ToyBoyAaron:

I don't know much about Islam but from what I have seen I don't want any religion.

As is your right but do remember that
religion means THINGS YOU DO REGULARLY.

So, technically, you are taking up a behaviour (religion) of not adopting any of the most popular associations that people claim to be associated with.

ToyBoyAaron:

Now about Christianity; I am born and brought up as one and I have felt and experienced power no doubt. There is more to the spiritual than physical but religion is messed up big time

Hence why I reminded you that YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE CONDUCTS OF PEOPLE FORGETTING THAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE BEHAVIOURS OF PEOPLE WHO LOVE TO WICKED AND EVIL, IN JUDGING THE BIBLE.

Whereas, the bible itself, also condemns them, even if they claim allegiance to it.

alfarouq:
May Allah grant us understanding

The scriptures written in their original language (Aramaic, Hebrew, Koine Greek) contains the word of God.

Note, I said scriptures (not “English Bible” with numerous translations out there).

The scriptures are more than just “66 books”

On a final note, THE TRUTH (both written and unwritten) is the word of God.

Truth is the language of God, and cannot be monopolised by any religion.

God (Truth) has no religion, but almost every religion claims to be from God.

God is more interested in a personal relationship with those who have a heart willing to trust and obey Him.

For example, Adam had no religion, Abel had no religion, Noah had no religion, Abraham had no religion, Job had no religion, Enoch (Idris in Islam) had no religion. They all had a personal relationship with God driven by faith (trust and obedience to God)

I hope this helps.

ToyBoyAaron:

Every human has the tendency to be evil or good. I don't know much about Islam but from what I have seen I don't want any religion. Now about Christianity; I am born and brought up as one and I have felt and experienced power no doubt. There is more to the spiritual than physical but religion is messed up big time

Religion is fraud, period!

Well except for the one James (the younger brother of Jesus) wrote about;

James 1 v 27;
27 Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

OkCornel:


Religion is fraud, period!

How can you not expect a thief to steal? Fraudulent people must do fraud, even if The Way is the purest in the whole earth.

Dtruthspeaker:


How can you not expect a thief to steal? Fraudulent people must do fraud, even if The Way is the purest in the whole earth.

Per the bolded part of your response, I saw what you did there

And yes of course, you’re absolutely correct!

OkCornel:


Per the bolded part of your response, I saw what you did there

And yes of course, you’re absolutely correct!

As long as you get that a white lace in the hands of mechanics, will never be clean.

Dtruthspeaker:


As long as you get that a white lace in the hands of mechanics, will never be clean.

True that. A simple parable with deep meaning.

Sadly the white lace (truth) has always been in the hands of mechanics (false teachers who mix truth with a few lies and errors to deceive many). Now there are loads of faulty/false doctrines polluting various media channels (places of worship, social media etc)

OkCornel:


True that. A simple parable with deep meaning.

Sadly the white lace (truth) has always been in the hands of mechanics (false teachers who mix truth with a few lies and errors to deceive many). Now there are loads of faulty/false doctrines polluting various media channels (places of worship, social media etc)

Yes! That is what is going on.

And then people have
1) allowed themselves to be ruled by their childhood wishes which they knew, was only a wish then, but because someone raised it up, telling them that it is possible to obtain it, they followed him and listened to him, discarding The Truth they previously saw but did not like, hence their wish in the first place.

2) become very lazy in no longer bringing out their magnifying glasses and pocket knives to check whether any proposition is Solid True.

3) become destroyed because of the foolish living they have lived as they have obtained irreparable damage such that changing to The Way that is True, is itself another destruction to them.

Dtruthspeaker:


Yes! That is what is going on.

And then people have
1) allowed themselves to be ruled by their childhood wishes which they knew, was only a wish then, but because someone raised it up, telling them that it is possible to obtain it, they followed him and listened to him, discarding The Truth they previously saw but did not like, hence their wish in the first place.

2) become very lazy in no longer bringing out their magnifying glasses and pocket knives to check whether any proposition is Solid True.

3) become destroyed because of the foolish living they have lived as they have obtained irreparable damage such that changing to The Way that is True, is itself another destruction to them.

Exactly!!!

alfarouq:
For any book or scripture to claim divinity, it must be free from contradictions, there are many tests to check the authenticity of a scripture but this i will refer to as one of the sufficiency test. any body is free to go and check for himself whether the things written here are true or not and act accordingly.

CONTRADICTIONS:
Concerning the controversial issues in the Bible, how can Christians decide by two-thirds majority what is God's Word and what is not, as the prefaces of some Bibles say like that one of the RSV ?

Why does Luke in his gospel report the Ascension on Easter Day, and in the Acts, in which he is recognized as the author, FORTY days later?

The genealogy of Jesus is mentioned in Matthew and Luke only. Matthew listed 26 forefathers from Joseph to David while Luke enumerated 41 forefathers. Only Joseph matches with Joseph in those two lists. Not a single other name matches! If these were inspired by God word by word, how could they be
different? Some claim that one is for Mary and one is for Joseph, but where does it
says Mary in those two Gospels?

If Moses wrote the first books of the Old Testament, how could Moses write his own obituary? Moses died in the fifth book at age 120 as mentioned in Deut. 34:5-10.

In the King James Version, why does it report SEVEN years of famine in II SAMUEL 24:13 while it reports THREE years of famine in I CHRONICLES 21:12? Why did they change both to THREE years in the New International Version and other versions?

Still In the same King James Version, why does it say that Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to reign in II CHRONICLES 21:12, while it says EIGHTEEN years in II KINGS 24:8? Why did thessey change in both to EIGHTEEN in the new Versions?

In all versions, why does it say that David slew the men of SEVEN HUNDRED chariots of the Syrians, and forty thousand HORSEMEN as evidenced in II Samuel 10:18 while its says SEVEN THOUSAND men which fought in chariots, and forty thousand FOOTMEN, in I CHRONICLES 19:18?

In all versions, why does it report TWO thousand baths in I KINGS 7:26 while II CHRONICLES 4:5 reports THREE THOUSAND?

In the King James version, why does it report that Solomon had FOUR THOUSAND stalls for horses in II CHRONICLES 9:25 while it accounts that Solomon had FORTY THOUSAND stalls of horses in 1 KINGS 4:26? Why did they change both to FOUR THOUSAND in the new versions?

In GENESIS 1, God's creation progresses from grass to trees to fowls, whales, cattle and creeping things and finally to man and woman. GENESIS 2, however, puts the creation of man before cattle and fowl and woman
subsequent to beast. How can this be explained?

One thing we know is that it is IMPOSSIBLE for God to make a single MISTAKE or commit an ERROR.

Non of the earlier revealed scripture claim to be the literal word of God and none of them was DICTATED by God. They are called word of God because God's mesangers spoke FOR God.

The Torah is NOT the exact literal word of God
The Injeel did not claim to be the exact literal word of God
The Sabura did not claim to be the literal word of God
The Bible did not claim to be the literal word of God.

Now, the Qur'an according to the Muslims is the EXACT literal words of Allah. If this is true and Allah is the Creator, we expect that
1. Allah will know the difference between Miriam the sister of Aaron and Mary the mother of Jesus
2. Allah will know for certain that the sun does not set in the murky waters
3. That Allah will know that the earth is NOT flat.
4. That Allah will know that stars are physical items and cannot become missiles against Shaitan .
Note: Shaitan is so small that he stays in the nostrils of people.
5. Abraham and Nimrod lived generations apart.
6. Allah should not copy myths and mythology of heathens and attribute it to himself.
7. The mathematics of inheritance should be perfect except it's not the creator speaking.
8. That Allah should judge SIN and not condone it for the prophet of Islam.
9. Only Muslims do not find amusing Surat Yusuf: you only need to compare with the original source.

At least we are certain of something in the Qur'an. The throne of Allah is in our solar system. The only problem is that no one has ever seen the sun prostrate under the throne of Allah while waiting for permission to rise up the next morning.

Sorry Abdul

Religion has cause more harm than good in Nigeria