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Re: Learn More About Hajj (the Pilgrimage) by Aggressa(m): 6:23pm On Dec 20, 2006
onikunkewu:

@TayoD
(1) ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,infact I am a "memmorizer" of the whole bible from Genesis to revelation (but mind you am talking of the original "Ibru scripture" not the fabricated bibles you guys are using this days for money making and not preaching the real gospel of "Christ" Jesus (prophet Issa.peace be upon him).
(2) For your information, i am a comparative religion study lecturer in one of the Nigeria Universities. If you press me the more, it's like i will let you know somethings you don't understand in your bible and the so called christianity, with quotations from the Bible and Quran.
(3) With me here are 27 different bibles not in one way similar to each other,to show how bible has turned to something else. Please brothers let people see the original Ibru scripture and compare with the Quran if there are differences atall.

@ 'Ustas' Onikunkewu,
grin grin grin, You are indeed a "lecturer in comparative religious study" either in your own imagination; or teaching little children in your local masjid. I dont think even Usman Dan Fodio University can accomodate somebody like you. I respect Belloti because of his writing style, peaceful mien and dialogue skills; but a casual look at your post quoted above shows an obviously uninformed individual.
So you are a "memmorizer" of the whole Bible; well Bible is not the Quran you are commanded to "cram". We learn from the words to gain wisdom, not cram them into an empty head. You post did not show any derived wisdom from the "memmorization".
Are you now using Yoruba to type? What do you mean by original "Ibru" scriptures. I did not know that the Olorogun "Ibru" family of Delta state have their own scripture. Oh' or you are talking of "Hebrew" scripture? since the english one you obviously dont understand, how will you learn anything from Hebrew scripture? see me, see wonder oh!How did I know you dont have understanding? You agreed and referred to Jesus as "Christ" many times in your post, but yet you stll say he is one 'prophet issa' of your bizzare Quran. Do you know the meaning of "Christ" that you agreed that Jesus is?
Asking you to show any difference in the various Bibile versions you have will be a waste of space and time, first because there is none, and second because you will "find" what is not there in your confusion. There are different "versions" of Bible, not "different Bibles."
Re: Learn More About Hajj (the Pilgrimage) by onikunkewu(m): 8:39pm On Dec 20, 2006
You are not serious ok.
Re: Learn More About Hajj (the Pilgrimage) by TayoD(m): 12:14am On Dec 21, 2006
@onikunkewu,

You are not serious ok

Is that the best you can offer to explain your lack of ability to spell "Hebrew"?  Even my 8 year old niece will spell that word correctly and you claim you are a lecturer? 

Na wa o.  No thanks to the internet, a Primary 2 school drop-out is now arrogating unto himself the sole honour of being a Lecturer. Dream on onikunkewu, dream on.

Since you refer to yourself as a scholar? Can you please answer this question that your fellow muslims have been unable to answer so far? Will you consider the koranic verse in 5:32 that says: "And for this reason, we ordained for the children of Israel that whoever has killed a single human without just cause, it is as if he has killed the entire humankind." which was lifted from the Jewish oral tradition (Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Sanhedrin, 37a.) as plagiarism? How many more of such intellectual copyright violation can be found in the Koran? Don't you consider it deceitful to copy a source without referencing it while making us to believe that one Angel jibril revealed it to you? Answers please.

And when you claim there is one one koran as against the Bible, please tell us which koran it is you are talking about. Is it the Qu'ran compliled by Abu Bakr or the one compiled by Uthman.  Better still, could it be the versions that Uthman gathered together and burned because they differ significantly from the ones he had?  Please tell us which one was really from Muhammad.    This same question have I asked from your fellows without any answers. I guess you will also side-step the questions with more 'igbe' of "You are not serious ok"
Re: Learn More About Hajj (the Pilgrimage) by onikunkewu(m): 11:15am On Dec 21, 2006
Quote from TayoD

Is that the best you can offer to explain your lack of ability to spell "Hebrew"?  Even my 8 year old niece will spell that word correctly and you claim you are a lecturer? 

Na wa o.  No thanks to the internet, a Primary 2 school drop-out is now arrogating unto himself the sole honour of being a Lecturer. Dream on onikunkewu, dream on.

Since you refer to yourself as a scholar? Can you please answer this question that your fellow muslims have been unable to answer so far? Will you consider the koranic verse in 5:32 that says: [color=#000099]"And for this reason, we ordained for the children of Israel that whoever has killed a single human without just cause, it is as if he has killed the entire humankind."
which was lifted from the Jewish oral tradition (Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Sanhedrin, 37a.) as plagiarism? How many more of such intellectual copyright violation can be found in the Koran? Don't you consider it deceitful to copy a source without referencing it while making us to believe that one Angel jibril revealed it to you? Answers please.[color=#990000]And when you claim there is one one koran as against the Bible, please tell us which koran it is you are talking about. Is it the Qu'ran compliled by Abu Bakr or the one compiled by Uthman.  Better still, could it be the versions that Uthman gathered together and burned because they differ significantly from the ones he had?  Please tell us which one was really from Muhammad.    This same question have I asked from your fellows without any answers. I guess you will also side-step the questions with more 'igbe' of "You are not serious ok"
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@TayoD, Havila, Davidylan.
   
1.   I strongly believe that perfectoin belongs to God Almighty,If atall i misspell "Hebrew" as "Ibru" i think your mental faculty should tell you am referring to "Hebrew scripture" if atall you are elites as you claim.
     
      2."And for this reason, we ordained for the children of Israel that whoever has killed a single human without just cause, it is as if he has killed the entire humankind."  which was lifted from the Jewish oral tradition (Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Sanhedrin, 37a.) as plagiarism?"
       If not for your stuppidity, don't you know that JESUS succeded a prophet, while MUHAMMED succeded  JESUS, right from the unset one prophet succeds another.To cut it short Quran is the continuation of Torah (the Bible), and other previous revelations for the then prophets. mind you not the fabricated ones you hypocrites use nowadays,so don't be amazed if you see quotations from other scriptures in the Quran.It is not plagiarism as you think becouse there are many more of that.
       
          3.The Quran is one all over the world. you are taking of the ones compilled by Abubakar and uthman. During the lifetime of Muhammed all the revelations were written on rocks and animal skin, after his departure the companions started using papyrus and clay tab to compile the Quran in the stead of the old rocks and animal skin. Take your time to see copies of these compilations if atall they differ unlike your bible with contradictions here and there.Following the invention of papers,it is used to replace the papry and clay tabs.
  Go to Alexandra library in egypt, you will get copies of these quran still in their papyrus and clay tab form then compare with any Quran in your vicinity.
       Please tell me if have left any of your questions unanswered.
Re: Learn More About Hajj (the Pilgrimage) by onikunkewu(m): 12:27pm On Dec 21, 2006
Lest i forget, those who proove to be sturbbon like TayoD,Havila,Davidylan,Mrpataki and a host of others,at the long run normally convert to Islam. you guys should forge ahead,by the special grace of God i will convert you to islam through this forum. We have converted people like you in portharcourt, Lagos, Ibadan and  one local government in Markurdi.Go and see how these people propagate Islam now, irrespective of  their tribes, occupations, marital status and gender.
     TONIGHT am travelling to MECCA FOR HAJJ, please get ready TO BE CONVERTED when i return home,try get your praying mats and kettles set for ablution. I will not hesitate providing you guys some praying clothes and copy of Quran each. GOOD BYE,SEE YOU NEXT YEAR
Re: Learn More About Hajj (the Pilgrimage) by belloti(m): 4:05pm On Dec 21, 2006
Onikunkewu, i wish you safe journey. May Almighty Allah accept your Ibadah, Amen
Re: Learn More About Hajj (the Pilgrimage) by mrpataki(m): 6:32pm On Dec 21, 2006
onikunkewu:

Lest i forget, those who proove to be sturbbon like TayoD,Havila,Davidylan,Mrpataki and a host of others,at the long run normally convert to Islam. you guys should forge ahead,by the special grace of God i will convert you to islam through this forum. We have converted people like you in portharcourt, Lagos, Ibadan and one local government in Markurdi.Go and see how these people propagate Islam now, irrespective of their tribes, occupations, marital status and gender.
TONIGHT am travelling to MECCA FOR HAJJ, please get ready TO BE CONVERTED when i return home,try get your praying mats and kettles set for ablution. I will not hesitate providing you guys some praying clothes and copy of Quran each. GOOD BYE,SEE YOU NEXT YEAR
@ belloti, onikunkewu,
I have seen people going for this idol worship in Mecca coming back to give their lives to Jesus Christ. Never know where the Lord will meet up with you. He did it with paul then.
Have a safe journey.
Re: Learn More About Hajj (the Pilgrimage) by Aggressa(m): 6:44pm On Dec 21, 2006
onikunkewu:

@TayoD, Havila, Davidylan.
1. I strongly believe that perfectoin belongs to God Almighty,If atall i misspell "Hebrew" as "Ibru" i think your mental faculty should tell you am referring to "Hebrew scripture" if atall you are elites as you claim.

onikunkewu:

We have converted people like you in portharcourt, Lagos, Ibadan and  one local government in Markurdi.Go and see how these people propagate Islam now, irrespective of  their tribes, occupations, marital status and gender.
TONIGHT am travelling to MECCA FOR HAJJ,

@Onikunkewu,
grin grin grin
In fact, you are indeed 'onikunkewu' because the passages you 'cram' end up in your belly as your name suggests, and thus your head is completely empty. Had it been that the quranic passages enter your head, your brain should have sounded an alarm that this 'stories' do not make sense becaue it is human lies concorted by muhammed. So it is only one local government in markudi, wait until your wife and children accept christ.
Now you are going to Saudi to worship the idol called 'allah' and throw stones at the devil. Just make sure you are not crushed to death, because every year the idols in kaaba always get sacrifice of human blood through the stampede. Stay alive, so you can receive the Gospel of Jesus Christ into your life.
As per your misspelling, na lie. You can wrongly spell Hebrew as "Herberew, not as "Ibru". You did not know the correct spelling and now you are lying. Instead of going to adult literacy school, you are wasting money by going to Saudi Arabia.
Re: Learn More About Hajj (the Pilgrimage) by TayoD(m): 2:48pm On Dec 22, 2006
@mrpataki and davidylan,

Uhmmmm, comparative religioin study lecturer, Another modernised-Decemer 2006 updated name for an Arabic/Kewu teacher!

mrpataki, kindly allow the use of this term in the compedium of nairaland's vocabulary to be compiled by Davidyland.
Re: Learn More About Hajj (the Pilgrimage) by belloti(m): 3:35pm On Dec 25, 2006
Hajj Bay tal Lah
Re: Learn More About Hajj (the Pilgrimage) by Aggressa(m): 4:39pm On Dec 25, 2006
belloti:

Hajj Bay tal Lah

grin grin grin
Belloti,
Since you've run out of ideas; you can only communicate in the ONLY language recognised, sanctioned and understood by the limited "baalim" called allah. That's called 'escape theology' for a limited idol.
Dont worry, the true living God is OmniScience i.e He is All Knowing and understands, sanctions and recognises All languages.
Sallaam a leikum!; Peace be unto you!; Alaafia fun e o!; Nan ga def!, etc
Re: Learn More About Hajj (the Pilgrimage) by mukina2: 4:50pm On Dec 25, 2006
: onikunkewu . .may you have a blessed hajj nad may Allah the almighty . .watch over you as you are going untill you go back home . .ameen



@olabowale . . .i sent you a mail . . .
Re: Learn More About Hajj (the Pilgrimage) by Nobody: 5:02pm On Dec 25, 2006
Comparative religion lecturer - A deceptive term used to describe uneducated quranic "scholars" who spend most of their time ferreting for alleged "inconsistencies" in the bible in order to manipulate the people and keep them under the bondage of islamic idol worship.
Re: Learn More About Hajj (the Pilgrimage) by mrpataki(m): 4:29pm On Dec 26, 2006
@ TayoD and Igwe's Brother,
davidylan:

Comparative religion lecturer - A deceptive term used to describe uneducated quranic "scholars" who spend most of their time ferreting for alleged "inconsistencies" in the bible in order to manipulate the people and keep them under the bondage of islamic idol worship.
grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy
Outstanding definition!
Re: Learn More About Hajj (the Pilgrimage) by belloti(m): 4:32pm On Dec 27, 2006
I can see you were seriously taken aback by the Comparative Religious Lecturer lexicon. You are still battling to get a suitable reply. funny huh?
Re: Learn More About Hajj (the Pilgrimage) by onikunkewu(m): 9:04pm On Jan 22, 2007
LABBAIKA LAHUMMA LABBAIKA, LABBAIKA LASHARIKA LAKA LABBAIKA, INNA -L-HAMDA WA NIIMATA LAKA WALMULK,LAASHARIKA LAK.
   

BELLOTI, MUKINA, OLABOWALE AND OTHER MUSLIM IN THE HOUSE, I SAY ASSALAMU ALAIKUM WARAMATULLAHI WABARAKATUHU.

    Davidylan, TayoD, Havilla, Mr. Pataki and other enemies  of Islam am back to Nigeria, MAY THE PEACE AND BLESSINGS OF ALMIGHTY GOD BE WITH YOU ALL, MAY HE FORGIVE YOUR SINS AND GUIDE YOU TO THE RIGHT PATH (ISLAM)
Re: Learn More About Hajj (the Pilgrimage) by belloti(m): 11:43am On Jan 23, 2007
Ameen Wa Alaykassalamu Wa Rahmatullahi Ta ala Wa barakatuhu, Yah Alhaji Onikunkewu. We welcome you back from the holy pilgrimage and pray that God accept all our acts of Ibadah and save our skins from the embers of hell.

i hope you brought me a jallabiyya from mecca.  cheesy
Re: Learn More About Hajj (the Pilgrimage) by mrpataki(m): 6:21pm On Jan 23, 2007
onikunkewu:

LABBAIKA LAHUMMA LABBAIKA, LABBAIKA LASHARIKA LAKA LABBAIKA, INNA -L-HAMDA WA NIIMATA LAKA WALMULK,LAASHARIKA LAK.


BELLOTI, MUKINA, OLABOWALE AND OTHER MUSLIM IN THE HOUSE, I SAY ASSALAMU ALAIKUM WARAMATULLAHI WABARAKATUHU.

Davidylan, TayoD, Havilla, Mr. Pataki and other enemies of Islam am back to Nigeria, MAY THE PEACE AND BLESSINGS OF ALMIGHTY GOD BE WITH YOU ALL, MAY HE FORGIVE YOUR SINS AND GUIDE YOU TO THE RIGHT PATH (ISLAM)

Blessed be the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. You are most welcome back. The religion comparative study lecturer. Lets see what knowledge the hajj has added to your fountain of ignorance: Islam.
Re: Learn More About Hajj (the Pilgrimage) by shahan(f): 6:24pm On Jan 23, 2007
@onikunkewu,

onikunkewu:

Davidylan, TayoD, Havilla, Mr. Pataki and other enemies of Islam am back to Nigeria, MAY THE PEACE AND BLESSINGS OF ALMIGHTY GOD BE WITH YOU ALL, MAY HE FORGIVE YOUR SINS AND GUIDE YOU TO THE RIGHT PATH (ISLAM)

Prayers for you, too. . . and welcome back! cheesy
Re: Learn More About Hajj (the Pilgrimage) by OakTV: 1:19am On Sep 27, 2015
Mecca Stampede: 9 Sokoto pilgrims confirmed dead

Sokoto State Government wishes to announce that NINE (9) of its pilgrims have so far been confirmed dead in the stampede that occurred on ‎Eid Day in Mina, Saudi Arabia.
Government officials, led by the state Amirul Hajj and Leader of Delegation, His Excellency, the Deputy Governor, Alhaji Ahmad Aliyu, have been working round the clock to identify many of the pilgrims who suffered various degrees of injuries and are receiving treatments ‎in different hospitals in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
At this moment of grief and sober reflection, the state government urges all citizens to remain calm and intensify prayers as we await further confirmation from authorities concerned.
Further statement will be made as more information become available.
May God bless the souls of those who died and may His healing ‎be visited upon all the injured. May God console us all.

http://www.oak.tv/newstrack/mecca-stampede-9-sokoto-pilgrims-confirmed-dead/

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