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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:51pm On Jun 08, 2017
So Nigerians should expect their kids to enjoy something similar to their Kenyan counterparts, no need for books. That is if Adebayo Shittu is not on a mission to defraud Nigerians.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:57pm On Jun 08, 2017
Jay254:
This one killed me today. Guys please watch it

3:00
Keeping it Real With Adeola Kenya's $3.2 Billion Train Project Beats Nigerian's ...
YouTube - 2 days ago

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DWSjyQijZ9Gw&ved=0ahUKEwjZ99-igK_UAhXEcRQKHf_rDqUQwqsBCCIwAQ&usg=AFQjCNFGh4YA-Ue83Wg48G-pzdRDi7i7lQ&sig2=WYW2BFQWzxqPNL234wPqqg

LMAO cheesy cheesy cheesy That lady is funny. So we are not the only ones wondering what the nigerians got from their govt? I think I just showed that the Ethiopian one is nothing to be admired either. Only that it is electrified.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ednited(f): 8:59pm On Jun 08, 2017
TayserMahiri:
So Nigerians should expect their kids to enjoy something similar to their Kenyan counterparts, no need for books. That is if Adebayo Shittu is not on a mission to defraud Nigerians.

Appreciation from Ethiopia
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 9:05pm On Jun 08, 2017
TayserMahiri:


LMAO cheesy cheesy cheesy That lady is funny. So we are not the only ones wondering what the nigerians got from their govt? I think I just showed that the Ethiopian one is nothing to be admired either. Only that it is electrified.

Hahaha Nigerians should stop calling themselves Giant of Africa..
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:13pm On Jun 08, 2017
ednited:


Appreciation from Ethiopia

Thanks a lot Ednite. wink I love your light rail, have you used the Addis light rail?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:14pm On Jun 08, 2017
Jay254:


Hahaha Nigerians should stop calling themselves Giant of Africa..

Quite a sudden turn of events, from giants to punching bags cheesy

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ednited(f): 9:20pm On Jun 08, 2017
TayserMahiri:


Thanks a lot Ednite. wink I love your light rail, have you used the Addis light rail?

Don't laugh at me but no.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:21pm On Jun 08, 2017
Jay254:


Hahaha Nigerians should stop calling themselves Giant of Africa..

For real tho 12 billion dollars? Were they Zimbabwean dollars or wat!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:22pm On Jun 08, 2017
ednited:


Don't laugh at me but no.

Why not?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ednited(f): 9:24pm On Jun 08, 2017
TayserMahiri:

Why not?
lot of the places i go to don't have the rail way access.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 9jakool: 9:31pm On Jun 08, 2017
shervydman:


well,....... maybe u should look at the advantages too.......

http://www.abuja-ng.com/centenary-city-abuja.html
I've looked at the advantages, it honestly doesn't impress me one bit. Why can they just turn Abuja into the smart city. Abuja CBD is not even yet completed and they are thinking of building another one. They can pretty much implement all that effort into Abuja. If the government have that much money to spend, isn't it more viable to invest that money into things that the whole nation can benefit from like education, health, and manufacturing. The smart city aspect can be well adapted to Abuja as it is, not build another artificial city. There are a lot of already existing cities who are taking the smart city approach: Amsterdam, San Francisco, and Stockholm are just a few examples.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 9:31pm On Jun 08, 2017
TayserMahiri:


For real tho 12 billion dollars? Were they Zimbabwean dollars or wat!
They must be, it will be crazy if its in USD with the outcome.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 9:32pm On Jun 08, 2017
TayserMahiri:


Quite a sudden turn of events, from giants to punching bags cheesy
grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:36pm On Jun 08, 2017
Jay254:
This one killed me today. Guys please watch it

3:00
Keeping it Real With Adeola Kenya's $3.2 Billion Train Project Beats Nigerian's ...
YouTube - 2 days ago

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DWSjyQijZ9Gw&ved=0ahUKEwjZ99-igK_UAhXEcRQKHf_rDqUQwqsBCCIwAQ&usg=AFQjCNFGh4YA-Ue83Wg48G-pzdRDi7i7lQ&sig2=WYW2BFQWzxqPNL234wPqqg
grin grin grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:39pm On Jun 08, 2017
Jay254:


Hahaha Nigerians should stop calling themselves Giant of Africa..
Seriously naija got issues.I think its too big to manage
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:47pm On Jun 08, 2017
TayserMahiri:


LMAO cheesy cheesy cheesy That lady is funny. So we are not the only ones wondering what the nigerians got from their govt? I think I just showed that the Ethiopian one is nothing to be admired either. Only that it is electrified.
Isn't your country Kenya railway runs by electricity?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 9:48pm On Jun 08, 2017
mtis:

Seriously naija got issues.I think its too big to manage

True if an Investment worth 12b dollas, does not have clear details online...
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Hbuyosh(m): 10:07pm On Jun 08, 2017
obaaderemi:
Hey hey,keep your shirt on,Hbuyosh.We are not fighting.But facts are facts.Here's the link on your idle refinery and who owned what until the indians pulled out.http://m.engineeringnews.co.za/article/kenya-refinery-2016-07-25 And yes,klm owned 26% of kenyan airline when it was privatized making it the largest shareholder until kenya govt built its share up from 23% to 29%later. https://en.wikipedia-org/wiki/Kenya_Airways. That airline makes heavy losses year after year.Africa needs to wake up.I only replied you because apart from ThunderingHooves,you are the only kenyan here who is sane and not high on qat.

But KPRL is a Kenyan govt owned Corp., the Indian owned company, Essar bought 50% shares in 2009, while the govt owned the rest of the shares.
I hate this baseless insinuation that everuthing in Kenya is foreign owned. Having foreign investors in the country doesnt mean that they run the country.

http://www.kprl.co.ke/profile.php

On Kenya Airways, KLM has never ever been the majority shareholder in that company. Show me in thst article where that is even stated.

Klm is the minority shareholder, the govt owns about 30% of the company while the the local investors, the private citizens like u and me, own the rest. The company is listed in the bourse.

While u were stating that the Klm used to own the majority shares till the govt "built its share up" to 29% (how?), did u wonder who owns the remaining 45% shares?

So, Kenya, as a country, owns the company by 74%!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 10:09pm On Jun 08, 2017
Jay254:
This one killed me today. Guys please watch it

3:00
Keeping it Real With Adeola Kenya's $3.2 Billion Train Project Beats Nigerian's ...
YouTube - 2 days ago

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DWSjyQijZ9Gw&ved=0ahUKEwjZ99-igK_UAhXEcRQKHf_rDqUQwqsBCCIwAQ&usg=AFQjCNFGh4YA-Ue83Wg48G-pzdRDi7i7lQ&sig2=WYW2BFQWzxqPNL234wPqqg
An architect friend told me that his major quarrel with the stations was that they should have been a major input by kenyan architects in the design. There is so much that could have been done in regards to the sharp features and industrial looks. I mean for once, even African themed and oriented designs would have been ideal, but i guess contracts are contracts. I never miss Adeola's rants, she is just one hilarious lady.

Hati13, the trains will switch to electricity after 4 years, but for now they have to run on diesel. The transmission lines to run these trains can be almost as expensive as the whole train project itself, if not more. Good to have internet back in Ethiopia, let's help anglophone Cameroonians get theirs back too by following the Twitter hashtag #BringOurInternetBack. Am sick of African dictators! Shikena!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 10:16pm On Jun 08, 2017
Hbuyosh:


But KPRL is a Kenyan govt owned Corp., the Indian owned company, Essar bought 50% shares in 2009, while the govt owned the rest of the shares.
I hate this baseless insinuation that everuthing in Kenya is foreign owned. Having foreign investors in the country doesnt mean that they run the country.

http://www.kprl.co.ke/profile.php

On Kenya Airways, KLM has never ever been the majority shareholder in that company. Show me in thst article where that is even stated.

Klm is the minority shareholder, the govt owns about 30% of the company while the the local investors, the private citizens like u and me, own the rest. The company is listed in the bourse.

While u were stating that the Klm used to own the majority shares till the govt "built its share up" to 29% (how?), did u wonder who owns the remaining 45% shares?

So, Kenya, as a country, owns the company by 74%!


He doesn't want to hear that part where chama mamas and duka shopkeepers in Kenya own 30%. He doesn't understand composite ownership of assets and liabilities, and how that spreads risks and increases accountability and profits including doing things like reporting your annual balance sheet in the local dailies. If you only knew how the percentages that major auto makers in Japan own each other, you would shut up!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 9jakool: 10:25pm On Jun 08, 2017
Nowenuse:


Your grievance is completely misplaced.

Abuja has every potential in displacing Lagos as the economic capital of Nigeria. But it just cannot happen overnight. Lagos was capital of Nigeria for 65 years. Abuja has not been capital for up to half that period.

You wanted the federal govt to continue investing in Lagos or what? I don't understand you.
Don't be too hasty to judge the viability of centenary city. Wait until it has been achieved and see if it will not boost Abuja economy.
*No, my reaction is not misplaced.

Age is not the main factor in economic development.
New York city was the capital of the US for just 5 years (1785-1790) until a new capital, Washington was drafted and planned becoming the capital from 1790 till present day, which is more than 200 years so far now. But you know what, even with that age, New York is still the commercial and financial capital of the US till today.

This case is very similar to Abuja. Abuja like Washington was founded as the administrative capital, and not as an economic capital. Lagos was established as a port due to access to the sea, similarly to New York which helped manufacturing and commerce grow. Although with some exceptions, artificial cities a lot of the time lack multi-economic purpose.

Why did I say this? A lot of the large cities we see in the world today have multi-economic functions. Lagos, New York, Tokyo, Sydney etc all have large ports for shipping, trade, industries, etc. Even cities that are landlocked like Johannesburg developed due to their economic platform like mining which created industries, finance, and later on tourism. What economic platform does Abuja serves? Abuja was not created to become the economic hub of Nigeria, it was founded for administrative purpose like Washington, Brasilia, Ottawa, Canberra etc. Today these cities are not the largest or the economic hub of their respective countries. There are of course notable exceptions like Dubai. Dubai even though artificially created, has many functions. It was created as an economic hub (financial and commercial hub) and not with an administrative role. That is why Dubai is not the capital of the UAE and Abu Dhabi is. Dubai as an artificial city especially in its grandiose nature created the identity which boosts its tourism.

Ok, as an investor, what niche will attract me to invest in Abuja as opposed to Lagos? What is Abuja known for?

I want the federal govt to continuing investing in Lagos?
I do not understand the nature of this question. When the federal gov was developing Abuja, so much money was consumed in development than Lagos. Lagos actually had decades of neglect following its glory days. It's not until recently that the state government started implementing
a master plan by creating different initiatives to drive growth and development.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:37pm On Jun 08, 2017
MtuMsuper:

An architect friend told me that his major quarrel with the stations was that they should have been a major input by kenyan architects in the design. There is so much that could have been done in regards to the sharp features and industrial looks. I mean for once, even African themed and oriented designs would have been ideal, but i guess contracts are contracts. I never miss Adeola's rants, she is just one hilarious lady.

Hati13, the trains will switch to electricity after 4 years, but for now they have to run on diesel. The transmission lines to run these trains can be almost as expensive as the whole train project itself, if not more. Good to have internet back in Ethiopia, let's help anglophone Cameroonians get theirs back too by following the Twitter hashtag #BringOurInternetBack. Am sick of African dictators! Shikena!
Why wait 4 years if diesel is much expensive than electricity?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 10:39pm On Jun 08, 2017
KENYA

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:44pm On Jun 08, 2017
ednited:


lot of the places i go to don't have the rail way access.

I get it now.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:46pm On Jun 08, 2017
Hati13:

Isn't your country Kenya railway runs by electricity?

No, electrification will be done after four years once the whole project is complete. We are also waiting for your Grand Renaissance Dam because powering all those kilometres of rail requires a lot of power.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:47pm On Jun 08, 2017
Jay254:


True if an Investment worth 12b dollas, does not have clear details online...

"What good fortune for governments that the people do not think." Adolf Hitler
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:56pm On Jun 08, 2017
TayserMahiri:


No, electrification will be done after four years once the whole project is complete. We are also waiting for your Grand Renaissance Dam because powering all those kilometres of rail requires a lot of power.
That explains.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Hbuyosh(m): 11:32pm On Jun 08, 2017
MtuMsuper:

He doesn't want to hear that part where chama mamas and duka shopkeepers in Kenya own 30%. He doesn't understand composite ownership of assets and liabilities, and how that spreads risks and increases accountability and profits including doing things like reporting your annual balance sheet in the local dailies. If you only knew how the percentages that major auto makers in Japan own each other, you would shut up!

It is a stark irony, that they should brag how Nigeria is such a major foreign investments hub, yet mock other countries' economies as foreign controlled on account of the foreign investors owning shares in the local companies.

I know he didnt realize that ordinary Kenyans own shares at the companies like Kenya Airways, he must have assumed that it is only by the the Klm, the external investor, and the govt.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by freshest4live: 11:47pm On Jun 08, 2017
I love the set of beautiful girls in this video. Come on guys feed your eyes. #mavin records 2012, adaobi#
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 12:00am On Jun 09, 2017
You guys managed to bring this page to 1000

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 12:00am On Jun 09, 2017
TayserMahiri:


That first question only ladies like you (and Nowenuse) can answer cheesy There are many handsome Kenyan men, but of course depending on tastes. Such things are very subjective. The second guy is called Omar Hamza, he's an actor and I think hes from the coast I think he is Swahili from the name. If you like him you might also like this DJ known as Jamal Gaddafi from the coast too, he kills kenyan girls. He's Swahili too

Hahaha, So does this means that Kenyan muslims are more good looking than Kenyan christians? Cos yaah this Jamal Gaddafi of a guy looks very cute. Him and Omar Hamza look cuter than all the other Kenyan guys we have posted (except for Kevin Owiti) smiley which ethnic group is Owiti of if i may ask?

****N another thing is that these Kenyan swahili guys look so much like Nigerian igbo guys. Striking resemblance of handsomeness shocked. Take this Jamal Gaddafi for instance n compare him with this 1st picture of Nigerian Nnamdi Asomugha n see the striking resemblance! Only that the Nigerian is older n darker smiley

See other random Igbo Nigerian guys below. They can boast some or most of the handsome men in Nigeria, they also tend to me more muscular on average than other Nigerians.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 12:02am On Jun 09, 2017
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