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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 10:41pm On Jun 05, 2018
Obi1kenobi:


If you're "embarrassed" by it, we aren't. grin We can speak any language any damn way we please. cool

That's what you think, until you get deported back to Enugu.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 10:41pm On Jun 05, 2018
TayserMahiri:


Still cant understand what is sexy about Nigerian accent. There is a Kenyan comedian calls himself Obinna who tries to impress Kenyans with the accent but it just doesnt work and Kenyans find him off putting. And he also adds a lot of childish antics I guess from his presumption on how Nigerians behave.

Anyway, different strokes for different folks!
There is no such thing as a Nigerian accent, rather there are Nigerian accents. However l agree there is a Nigerian way of speaking, but the accent of an Hausa man is totally different from that of the Igbos whom you know more from Nollywood.
As for the manner of speaking, the South in general, speak similarly because of the general pidgin English and it's tone.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Obi1kenobi(m): 10:44pm On Jun 05, 2018
gallivant:


That's what you think, until you get deported back to Enugu.

Can't even understand what you're talking about. Care to make some sense?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:47pm On Jun 05, 2018
Obi1kenobi:


Blame the bad comedian. Has nothing to do with the Nigerian accent. grin

Has to be the bad accent grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 10:50pm On Jun 05, 2018
Obi1kenobi:


Like you may want to say "don't touch me". In pidgin, this is "no touch me o". In the unique Nigerian English, we'd often say something like "don't touch me o" due to that pidgin influence.

That's just stupid, even more amazing you say it with pride. Dullards. undecided

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 10:50pm On Jun 05, 2018
rvp20182:
You're still talking about Wole Soyinka Nobel prize till now - Kenya's Ngugi has come very close to winning it. You got one Nobel prize. We have one Nobel Prize. Give it up.
Well the world knows more about Wole Soyinka and Chinua Achebe than any Ngugi in literature. Nigerians are literature giants, this is not to be disputed.
As for the English language, ask the Ghanians, Seirrealeonians, Liberians and all members of West African Waec, who the popular authors of the English books they read are.
l want peace for the world, and l appreciate peace makers, but a noble price in peace is not what Africans should be dominating now. lt shows Africa has only been a place of conflict with no meaningful human endeavour.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:52pm On Jun 05, 2018
Daejoyoung:

There is no such thing as a Nigerian accent, rather there are Nigerian accents. However l agree there is a Nigerian way of speaking, but the accent of an Hausa man is totally different from that of the Igbos whom you know more from Nollywood.
As for the manner of speaking, the South in general, speak similarly because of the general pidgin English and it's tone.


So what did they rank in the sexiest accent ranking? You cannot judge yourselves, you have to sit there and wait for people who are outside your bubble tell you how you speak GENERALLY. Those subtle differences you perceive are imperceptible to us out here.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 10:55pm On Jun 05, 2018
Obi1kenobi:


Can't even understand what you're talking about. Care to make some sense?

Maybe if you paid more attention in English class you would understand.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 10:55pm On Jun 05, 2018
Daejoyoung:

Well the world knows more about Wole Soyinka and Chinua Achebe than any Ngugi in literature. Nigerians are literary giants, this is not to be disputed.
As for the English language, ask the Ghanians, Seirrealeonians, Liberians and all members of West African Waec, who the popular authors of the English books they read are.
l want peace for the world, and l appreciate peace makers, but a noble price in peace is not what Africans should be dominating now. lt shows Africa has only been a place of conflict with no meaningful human endeavour.

No, Africans should be known for mastering literature in the language of their former masters. Makes sense now.

PS - Our Nobel laureate didn't get the prize for solving a conflict, she got it for conserving the environment. That's why Nairobi (and all Kenyan cities and towns) is beatiful with greenery every where while Nigerian cities are either concrete jungles, dirty slums or rusty iron sheets with no trees.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 10:57pm On Jun 05, 2018
TayserMahiri:



So what did they rank in the sexiest accent ranking? You cannot judge yourselves, you have to sit there and wait for people who are outside your bubble tell you how you speak GENERALLY. Those subtle differences you perceive are imperceptible to us out here.
That's why l said the pidgin English has brought it's unique tone and made it look like there's a general accent. Buhari doesn't have the accent of Obasanjo and Obasanjo doesn't have that of Nwankor Kanu who doesn't have same accent as 2face, etc. lf they do, you let me know here.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:00pm On Jun 05, 2018
Obi1kenobi:


Like you may want to say "don't touch me". In pidgin, this is "no touch me o". In the unique Nigerian English, we'd often say something like "don't touch me o" due to that pidgin influence.

If a grown mad like your dad speaks like this would it not sound embarrassing and perhaps childish?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:03pm On Jun 05, 2018
TayserMahiri:


Was a narrow loss for the Springboks and even more impressive cos they are the young lads. Congrats to your U20s as well. Maybe you should be impressed by the fact that the future looks bright with your youngies.
Fiji are just on a roll this time round.
Shujaa have been excellent this time round, we hit a century with a series to spare! Though we got the toughest group for the Paris 7s with Fiji, NZ and Samoa.
No lose to Wales is ever impressive....in a 100 years we never lost against Wales....now we've lost three in a row,a fvcking disgrace really!!

Jap(Yes in SA slang) you guys got the pool of death!! but Kenya every now and again gets one over Fiji, expecting you guys to beat Samoa, then hopefully get one over Fiji or NZ....just need to get into those quarter finals!!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:06pm On Jun 05, 2018
Daejoyoung:

That's why l said the pidgin English has brought it's unique tone and made it look like there's a general accent. Buhari doesn't have the accent of Obasanjo and Obasanjo doesn't have that of Nwankor Kanu who doesn't have same accent as 2face, etc. lf they do, you let me know here.

The sum of all those is what ends up being Nigerian accent. You have all influenced each other in small and big ways to the extent you sound the same all of you! I told your friend I watched Muslim people from Maiduguri speak during The Purge on brothels and they sounded as Nigerian as any.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 11:15pm On Jun 05, 2018
TayserMahiri:


If a grown mad like your dad speaks like this would it not sound embarrassing and perhaps childish?
I don't get, how is it embarrassing??
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:18pm On Jun 05, 2018
jln115:

No lose to Wales is ever impressive....in a 100 years we never lost against Wales....now we've lost three in a row,a fvcking disgrace really!!

Jap(Yes in SA slang) you guys got the pool of death!! but Kenya every now and again gets one over Fiji, expecting you guys to beat Samoa, then hopefully get one over Fiji or NZ....just need to get into those quarter finals!!


100 Fvcking Yrs!! honestly impressive. Is it the coaching or inexperienced players??

We can get over Samoa and NZ (theyre doing badly right now) but Fiji currently are too good.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:22pm On Jun 05, 2018
Daejoyoung:

I don't get, how is it embarrassing??

Its really immaturish. If my dad spoke like that to me I might smite him!
It kinda sounds like begging or something along those lines. Cant even find the correct words to describe that kind of talk.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Obi1kenobi(m): 11:28pm On Jun 05, 2018
gallivant:


That's just stupid, even more amazing you say it with pride. Dullards. undecided

Not really. It's our own idiosyncratic way of speaking. Irish people speak in their own way. Indians have their peculiar mannerisms. South Africans have theirs - whether Zulus or Afrikaners. Brazilian Portuguese has so evolved than the average Portuguese man doesn't understand it. The notion we must all speak like British people is pretty stewpid. But then you're clearly not the sharpest bulb upstairs.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 11:31pm On Jun 05, 2018
TayserMahiri:


Its really immaturish. If my dad spoke like that to me I might smite him!
It kinda sounds like begging or something along those lines. Cant even find the correct words to describe that kind of talk.
That's because you don't know how to say it. l can imagine the way a Kenyan would say it would make it sound like he's begging. Listen to comedian Bovi if you can, then you'll learn how pidgin is spoken in warri for instance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfZmWpz3dok

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Obi1kenobi(m): 11:33pm On Jun 05, 2018
TayserMahiri:


If a grown mad like your dad speaks like this would it not sound embarrassing and perhaps childish?

Why would something that is part of who we are embarrass me. It's like telling a Khoisan in South Africa that their language with all the weird clicks doesn't sound human and asking them whether it's not embarrassing. Funny enough Khoisans think other groups' languages sound like monkey chatter. Perhaps, our way of speaking sounds childish to you. It doesn't to me who has heard it all my life. I can't say I know how Kenyans speak cos I haven't seen many Kenyans speak or been observant enough when I have. Else, I'd probably say the same about how you speak. Nigerians and Ghanaians mock each other's way of speaking. Perhaps we all just need some maturity in the world to understand those who are different.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Obi1kenobi(m): 11:36pm On Jun 05, 2018
gallivant:


Maybe if you paid more attention in English class you would understand.

I paid plenty of attention and speak and write it very well. The problem wasn't your grammar, which a 5-year-old could interpret, so don't flatter yourself. grin You just didn't make any logical sense with your ramblings. What did your rambling about Enugu have to do with anything we're talking about here?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:51pm On Jun 05, 2018
Daejoyoung:

That's because you don't know how to say it. l can imagine the way a Kenyan would say it would make it sound like he's begging. Listen to comedian Bovi if you can, then you'll learn how pidgin is spoken in warri for instance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfZmWpz3dok


I couldnt understand anything he was saying.

Here is my observation, Nigerians made their English in a way that it is intelligible to the uneducated. I imagine even people who havent entered a classroom speak like this?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:56pm On Jun 05, 2018
Obi1kenobi:


Why would something that is part of who we are embarrass me. It's like telling a Khoisan in South Africa that their language with all the weird clicks doesn't sound human and asking them whether it's not embarrassing. Funny enough Khoisans think other groups' languages sound like monkey chatter. Perhaps, our way of speaking sounds childish to you. It doesn't to me who has heard it all my life. I can't say I know how Kenyans speak cos I haven't seen many Kenyans speak or been observant enough when I have. Else, I'd probably say the same about how you speak. Nigerians and Ghanaians mock each other's way of speaking. Perhaps we all just need some maturity in the world to understand those who are different.

I think you hit the point with your last sentence.
In the spirit of maturity, I can say that the way Nigerians speak, especially as seen from the Bovi Video shared just above, from our perspective as Kenyans, the Nigerian way of speaking and mannerism resembles what we consider to be childish or immature behavior. Or is it because he is a comedian? Honestly, I would never take you seriously if you speak to me like that all the time. I'd think you are ever in a childish mood.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by OMANBALA1: 12:02am On Jun 06, 2018
TayserMahiri:


I couldnt understand anything he was saying.

Here is my observation, Nigerians made their English in a way that it is intelligible to the uneducated. I imagine even people who havent entered a classroom speak like this?

You are very very ignorant about pidgin English... Nigerians didn't create pidgin. And , as a Kenyan you should be the last person to mock the way a person talks....You are a ffucking Kenyan for ffucks sake....shut up!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:06am On Jun 06, 2018
OMANBALA1:


You are very very ignorant about pidgin English... Nigerians didn't create pidgin. And , as a Kenyan you should be the last person to mock the way a person talks....You are a ffucking Kenyan for ffucks sake....shut up!

Then educate me on who created Pidgin. I thought Nigerians created it
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by OMANBALA1: 12:06am On Jun 06, 2018
TayserMahiri:


I think you hit the point with your last sentence.
In the spirit of maturity, I can say that the way Nigerians speak, especially as seen from the Bovi Video shared just above, from our perspective as Kenyans, the Nigerian way of speaking and mannerism resembles what we consider to be childish or immature behavior. Or is it because he is a comedian? Honestly, I would never take you seriously if you speak to me like that all the time. I'd think you are ever in the childish mood.

Firstly, you don't understand pidgin so , therefore, your opinion does not matter. Americans make fun of the way a Kenyan speaks English. They can tell you are a Kenyan the moment you open your mouth....lol

I have heard somebody say y'all sound like retarded little kids...lol. How you like that ?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by OMANBALA1: 12:09am On Jun 06, 2018
TayserMahiri:


Then educate me on who created Pidgin. I thought Nigerians created it

So, you don't know how pidgin followed the returnee slaves back to west Africa ,neither do you understand pidgin but you are ready to attack Nigerians because that's how you sleep at night....You have hate in your soul

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by darfay: 12:13am On Jun 06, 2018
OMANBALA1:


So, you don't know how pidgin followed the returnee slaves back to west Africa ,neither do you understand pidgin but you are ready to attack Nigerians because that's how you sleep at night....You have hate in your soul

Don't mind the idiot he his in Nairobi killing himself over how tens of millions of Nigerians speak be it pidgin English or standard English as far as millions of us able to communicate with each other who cares about his insignificant opinion

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:14am On Jun 06, 2018
OMANBALA1:


Firstly, you don't understand pidgin so , therefore, your opinion does not matter. Americans make fun of the way a Kenyan speaks English. They can tell you are a Kenyan the moment you open your mouth....lol

I have heard somebody say y'all sound like retarded little kids...lol. How you like that ?


See Pidgin. This is what I mean. Sounds n looks of immaturity (to non Nigerians). You guys sound immature n childish but you dont want to be told.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeZ1h3uIBsM

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:17am On Jun 06, 2018
OMANBALA1:


So, you don't know how pidgin followed the returnee slaves back to west Africa ,neither do you understand pidgin but you are ready to attack Nigerians because that's how you sleep at night....You have hate in your soul

Lol dude!!! Pidgin is a general term for different 'lingua'. There is also pidgin that developed in China between the Chinese n British. Yours is Nigerian pidgin not just pidgin.

No hate dude!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by darfay: 12:19am On Jun 06, 2018
TayserMahiri:


I think you hit the point with your last sentence.
In the spirit of maturity, I can say that the way Nigerians speak, especially as seen from the Bovi Video shared just above, from our perspective as Kenyans, the Nigerian way of speaking and mannerism resembles what we consider to be childish or immature behavior. Or is it because he is a comedian? Honestly, I would never take you seriously if you speak to me like that all the time. I'd think you are ever in a childish mood.

You must have a pathetic life. you are up by 1:14am discussing Nigerian English from your one room apartment in kibera naso when morning reach you go come open shop on top nairaland nawa o
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:22am On Jun 06, 2018
darfay:


Don't mind the idiot he his in Nairobi killing himself over how tens of millions of Nigerians speak be it pidgin English or standard English as far as millions of us able to communicate with each other who cares about his insignificant opinion


No one cares about my opinion sir grin

I was only trying to say a very very simple point. That Nigerians speak very childishly. Thats all. If I was your maker I would have worked on your speaking, fix and fine tune the mannerisms but hey, I am just me! Too bad.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by darfay: 12:24am On Jun 06, 2018
TayserMahiri:


See Pidgin. This is what I mean. Sounds n looks of immaturity (to non Nigerians). You guys sound immature n childish but you dont want to be told.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeZ1h3uIBsM

Over a 100million Nigerians can speak and understand pidgin English infact that is the simplest language to learn so if it sounds childish to just one insignificant fellow "That one na him palava"

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