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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 8:07am On Nov 19, 2018 |
jaycent: Lord have mercy first of all Nestle is not a product, its a company second Nestle is not a Nigerian company third Nestle Ghana produce all of those products here you guys just have no shame 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 8:08am On Nov 19, 2018 |
tlann:I am really sad now , how can 60% of population leaves in a land mass of less than 6% that is Kibera slums, the government may be trying but the slum dwellers keeps increase as a result of high cost of housing in the tiny developed part of nairobi,I really don't see it getting improved any time soon as your government as politicized it and concentrate mostly of its development on CBD and SGR (which average Kenyans complains about the high cost of it ) don't forget that CBD is mostly for business, this slum dwellers goes to CBD to hustle then goes back to their slums. I also realised that their are worst slums than Kibera, I learnt that Kibera is a child play in comparison with slums like mathare and others. lastly, your government mostly concentrate on Kibera forgetting that more slums are coming up an the current slums are expanding like wildfire, take mathare for instance, a small place with population of 500000 people, all Africa countries have slums but kenya slums is on a different level. the more you chase them from Kibera the more they move to other slums .fact.
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 8:08am On Nov 19, 2018 |
samsobo24:A Nigerians answer to your ignorance.... I think the furthest you have gone outside your village is Sambisa forest BedLam: BedLam: claremont:Below pictures of a rural setting... Villagers picking tea leaves on their farms
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 8:16am On Nov 19, 2018 |
I think you need to understand how we classify slums - majority of Nigeria cities would be 100% slums- if you stick to UN Habitat (Global HQ Nairobi) definition of a slum. Slums cannot be eliminated until we eliminate poverty and that aint happening until 2050. What we can do is to provide social housing - something we haven't done with serious - slums upgrading was left to WB/NGOS/UN - but know we are starting very serious work there - with target of 0.5M houses - that should easily lift 2-3M people off slums. 68816419: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 8:18am On Nov 19, 2018 |
achimotan:Nigerians can be so stupid to the extend that you sometimes question if they are even Human at all they lack the ability to reason All they know is to lay claim to the successes of others 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 8:19am On Nov 19, 2018 |
darfay: This is very old news.. I gave you cradible first hand info.. Just believe on what you want. Jumia Hq is in Nigeria hope that makes you happy dispite the fact that it's not true. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 8:25am On Nov 19, 2018 |
Kenya Banks regional footprint Equity DRC becomes-most-profitable-subsidiary https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/equity-DRC-branch-becomes-most-profitable-subsidiary/539546-4723116-yu9n6q/index.html 10 Kenyan banks, including the KCB, DTB, Bank of Africa and Equity Bank, operate in other countries in East Africa and South Sudan. Kenyan banks operate 140 branches in Uganda, 96 in Tanzania, 55 in Rwanda, 33 in South Sudan and 9 in Burundi. The biggest cross-border banks are the KCB and DTB with 64 regional branches each. Others include, I&M Bank, with a 50% shareholding in Bank One Mauritius; Prime Bank, with a 22.5% share in First Merchant Bank of Malawi; and Equity Bank, which acquired a subsidiary in Democratic Republic of Congo. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 8:25am On Nov 19, 2018 |
darfay:keep on laying claims |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 8:29am On Nov 19, 2018 |
Their country leadership has fed them the delusion that they are BEST in Africa. Now in the face of overwhelming facts that they are just far from leading but actually are as crap as Niger or Chad they just can't handle it.You can also tell majority of them got very poor education. I was just thinking it their wicked English pronunciation - I mean Ghanians speak the right way like Kenyans - but the more I stay here - the more I am convinced the rot in their society is VERY DEEP. Just30: 5 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 8:35am On Nov 19, 2018 |
rvp20182:can you compare Kenyan banks and Nigerian banks in terms of regional and international out Rich? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 8:44am On Nov 19, 2018 |
rvp20182: hahaha more like a a charcoal calling pot black, we Nigerians understand our challenges and we face it right away (go to nairaland page and u shall see it,) unlike U stupid poor Kenyans who leaves in delusions ,Nigerians don't hide anything, haven't we shown you beyond reasonable doubt that we far ahead of Kenya, haven't we shown u facts and figures ?, man, Nigeria is far better than Kenya in most aspects and that is nothing you can do, we have shown u guys and we shall keep showing u over and over again till u accept the reality. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 8:46am On Nov 19, 2018 |
If you factor per capita yes and the fact that Nigerian bank sector is forced consolidation (Igbo lady) then another yes - We have 45 banks. Let not talk about co-operative and micro-finance sector that dwarf Nigeria. Lets not even talk about mobile money - which now easily see 45B dollars (half our GDP) moved btw phones. Our finance sector is just more sophisticated and even in scale - they are going to overtake Nigeria soon. 68816419: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 8:47am On Nov 19, 2018 |
rvp20182:they society is rotten to the core These Nigerians are so afraid of competition to the extent that, they are banning common Maize import Yet they think they have a right to flood Ghana and do petty trading Ghana import a billion dollars worth of meat and fresh vegetables from Burkina Faso Just imagine what will happen to Burkina Faso economy, if Ghana place a ban on the import of those products |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 8:50am On Nov 19, 2018 |
No you haven't. To be better than Kenya in anything - you need to be like 4 times better! Ghana - maybe 5 or 6 times! - you're a country of 198M people - we are 49M!!!!!. You've shown us to be at best twice or less Kenya in scale/volume - but less sophistication - in name any metrics. That is NOT being better than Kenya - that is being TWICE WORSE. You guys really need to prioritize QUALITY EDUCATION SYSTEM. We are now on our 3rd overhaul of our BEST IN AFRICA education - so we produce PEOPLE WHO CAN THINK AND MAKE SOUND ARGUMENTS.Reading Nairaland is depressing. 68816419: 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 8:54am On Nov 19, 2018 |
It was insightful when the so called biggest economy in Africa was hesitant to sign the Africa Free Trade. Now it's Ghana, Kenya,Rwanda and South Africa who have signed and ratified. The Giant mess of Africa apparently fears competition...and yet they claim to have manufacturing sector that dwarf us . I tell you Ghana - you've got a great country that is on the right track like Kenya. Nigeria cannot be helped. God gave them 2M barrels per annum for last 50yrs and it still one giant mess. I mean if Oil has not transformed Nigeria - what will transform it? Just30: 3 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 8:55am On Nov 19, 2018 |
rvp20182:its easy said than done man, I know you will always defend your country, but be realistic for once, I thought your goal was 2030 ? how do you intend to lift these poor people from poverty ? are these slums housing projects meant for the the so called poor slum Kenyans or the rich corrupt politician? how do you intend to address the new slums springing out on a daily bases at other locations? what do you think of the faiths of the Kibera slums dwellers whose houses has been demolished of recent , don't you think they would have no option than to move to other slums? was the so called housing projects allocated to these over 30000 former slums inhabitants .? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 8:57am On Nov 19, 2018 |
rvp20182:guess u now have Ghanaians as a new friend to console your defeat, but how comes their ain't many Kenyans in Ghana, I am guessing Ghana is as woeful as Nigeria? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 9:00am On Nov 19, 2018 |
I think you need to understand what I mean by eliminate poverty. I am talking like most of north-africa - egypt, morocco and algeria - have 0-1% poverty - we are talking both absolute poverty(1 dollar) or poverty(2 dollars a day per person) international measure. South Africa has poverty of 10-15%. That I think is where we will be in 2030..we will have national poverty of 15% - from current 35% - and then by 2050 - we will be like Egypt with zero absolute poverty. Slums - we are not just talking - we have already started raising funds - through heavy taxation - for Housing - our top 4 agenda in the next 5yrs. We did the same for electricity - in 2006 we had only 12% electricity - we are now well into 75% and should achieve universal electricity coverage like South Africa. We are doing housings, universal health care, food security and manufacturing. Kenya is not Nigeria wilderness. We set achievable goals. 68816419: 3 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 9:02am On Nov 19, 2018 |
rvp20182:Do you define rusted or brown roof as slums as well, or isn't it the same UN habitat that classified Kenya to be having largest slums in Africa or may be they haven't been to Nigeria before or they may be very bias to kenya? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 9:03am On Nov 19, 2018 |
You don't need a crowd when you have facts. That is why a bunch of kenyans are holding your hostage in your own forum. You don't have pictures. You don't have data. You don't have facts. You are running on empty. Ghana is more like Kenya - so I don't see why Kenyans would move to Ghana or the reverse. Two progressive nations at about same level all factors considered. 68816419: 3 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 9:05am On Nov 19, 2018 |
Someone exaggerated the size of Kibera - you know Nairobi is NGO capital of the world - otherwise Kibera as you know is very small slum - about 5kms square or less - and has only 170K residences - not 1M as alleged. Definition of slums - included rusted iron roof houses - that is pretty good indicator of a slum - you see them same in kibera. 68816419: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 9:06am On Nov 19, 2018 |
rvp20182: im even wondering A country that fears import from even Burkina Faso is calling itself giant i cant stop laughing Trade between Ghana and Nigeria is less than 60 million dollars without adding oil yet these buffons say they control the Ghanaian economy can you imagine that Ghana import a billion dollars of oil and gas products from Nigeria and if they joke we will take our monies away and give it to Equatorial Guinea 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 9:09am On Nov 19, 2018 |
rvp20182:spitt on you man ,WTF was that, I asked u regional outreach and u rsaying nonsense. let me paraphrase it for u once more, how many kenya banks are in west Africa countries (not even Nigeria) and how many Nigerians banks are in Kenya not even Africa countries? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 9:10am On Nov 19, 2018 |
I thought Tullow discovered Oil in Ghana and it's currently being produced? I tell the more I analyze the paper giant of Africa the worse it gets. Just mere 60M dollars. And they think petty traders or hawkers - informal trading - is actually BIG DEAL. Just30: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 9:12am On Nov 19, 2018 |
68816419:cos the logistics of moving between Kenya and Ghana is non-existent. It amazes me sometimes when you can't find Kenyan brand of tea on the shelves meanwhile, they make some of the best teas in the world but we can easily find ZEPTA and co that is why the free trade agreement is necessary while we work on the logistics |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 9:13am On Nov 19, 2018 |
Let me ask you - how many Nigerian banks in Kenya are making profit - Zero. Our banking regional strategy is not like Nigeria - where we just rush all over and burn capital. As you can see we are doing deep and profitable sweep of the region. Not just rushing to buy struggling banks in Eritrea or Chad - our banks are going to dominate East Africa -not just be there - and get to West Africa - very soon. That is why our banks are the MOST PROFITABLE in Africa - and yet we cap interest rate now - to now more than 13%(4% the base lending rate). Nigeria you'd be lucky with 25% interest rate on your loan 68816419: 3 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 9:15am On Nov 19, 2018 |
rvp20182: My apologies. Despite that, Safaricom 2017 revenue is not 2.5b dollars. Olodo rabata. It's just Ksh212. 9b(see snapshot 1) which is just 2b dollars (see snapshot 2) and that accounts for 71% of all telecom revenue in Kenya. Bhuhahahaha. Even Glo made 1.5b dollars revenue in 2017 and it is just 26% of revenue generated from telecom. Poor
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 9:15am On Nov 19, 2018 |
Precisely. With Africa Free Trade - Kenya and Ghana will start to trade - and possibly even have free movement of labour. Nigeria obviously will not want it's bare back to be exposed. Just30: 3 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 9:18am On Nov 19, 2018 |
rvp20182:rubbish, I only asked you how do you intend to eradicate the Poverty and saying nonsense, secondly, how do intent to curb the high rise of other slums been built on daily bases thirdly, what are the current projects going on in eradicating the high numbers of slums dwellers in other slums areas (not Kibera alone) take mathare who has 50000 slums dwellers,. nigga can please wake up from your dreams and accept reality on ground?
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:18am On Nov 19, 2018 |
68816419:that is not true at all not 60% of nairobi live in slums you don't believe those numbers Those are NGOs trying to fleece international donors have you read about kibera missing numbers they said that Kibera has 2.5million people while in real sense kibera has only 250,000 people and it is largest in kenya so mathare cant have 500,000 people |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 9:18am On Nov 19, 2018 |
Not everyone is liar like you're accosted to in Nigeria. Go back and read again what I wrote. this time slowly. I told Safaricom annual revenues 2017 was 2.2B. I also told you the 1st HALF OF 2018 Safaricom already had 7% increase in revenue and extrapolated/predicted that this year it will end at 2.5B dollars. I also did the same for MTN - your dominant player - and concluded the sector annual revenue for telcoms will roughly be 4B dollars in Kenya - against Nigeria 8.5B. And profitability wise - I am betting kenya telcom sector is most likely more profitable. forgiveness: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 9:21am On Nov 19, 2018 |
rvp20182:Ghana consumes a lot of fuel Natural gas and other heavy fuels our current production is not enough and in the future, we will have to import more If new discoveries are not made. when ENI comes on stream, they will produce 180 million cubic feet of Gas per day in addition to what jubilee fields are producing and it would still not be enough for Ghana. Ghana is the single largest gas consumer in West and central Africa 1 Like |
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