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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 6:20pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
obaaderemi:Even after nearly 3000 pages of stubborn facts showing you country is backward in nearly any parameter you still obstinately reckon your country is giant.A giant doesn't need 10 pages to crush Kenya.Algeria crushed us with a single page and South Africa doesn't need to.Nigeria can and will only emerge from their hellhole once they start having honest discussion.You cannot twist or bend your undevelopment or backwardness.Its a waste of time. It waste of patriotism.You need face reality and have honest national conversation that start with the fact that Nigeria clusters with Niger in nearly any indices.Kenya we have huge problems..but we are fixing them and progressively improving.That progress is reflected in steady climb in any progressive index.It starts with honest conversation.Every country has issues..some like Rwanda were hopeless with 10% of population massacred and lot more kicked out..but alas they are turning their fortunes..with zero minerals.Their neighbor DRC are facing Ebola and nobody care.Nigeria I use to think was a great Nation that would uplift the black race..this thread has left me depressed about the future prospect.I see civil war and military taking over soon.The country has perfect mix of stupid leadership and citizenry.Kenya was in the same fix in 1990s as Moi dictatorship brought everything down..we were bottom in any index and any sane person dream was to immigrate..the country was hopeless..then we had political revolution christened NARC revolution and kicked out the gov..and for 15yrs we crawled out of the hopeless rabbit hole.In 2002 Kenyans decided enough was enough and the usual tribalism was thrown out....and course of our nation reversed.We became the most optimistic people in the world..in 15yrs..we grew our economy from 12b to 90b dollars.. electricity coverage from 12% to now nearly 80%..and even then we had blackouts..we had more kids out of school than in..our hospital stopped working...name it and for 15yrs we dramatically changed our story..and can dare dream of reaching South Africa level in another 10-15yrs.If we repeat the last 15yrs..our economy will be 600B by 2032. 5 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 6:31pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
TonyeBarcanista:E pain am reach prick. ![]() |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 6:35pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
rvp20182:All this long rant exactly for what? The only reason this thread is this long is not because you and your small unsuccessful country have not been shamed here. The only reason is because you are obsessed with Nigerians and not Algerians or South Africans ![]() 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kur17: 6:42pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
sufferNsmiling: Is there any positive thing from Nigeria apart from Lekki stuff...a GDP came down from a $568B in 2014 to an exaggerated figure of $376 in 2017... In other news, Nigerian army have killed several poor Nigerians today, |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 6:43pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
obaaderemi:Again you're burying you head in the sand.This thread is perhaps the most intellectually stimulating in nairaland.I stroll once in a while to check your domestic thread...very depressing.Kenya is progressing and the evidence is bare.I know you know you cannot undo the tribal and religious difference that hobble your country.Moi our former was dictator was right to recommend splitting Nigeria into two.Just wait for oil prices to crash and you'll get the music.You gov will be unable to pay debts or salary..the military already demoralized will take over..and then civil war will start.Pray for oil. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 6:53pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
rvp20182:There was a time oil sold for as low as 15 dollars in the nineties ( when we were even more dependent on oil), nobody died then, so why now? Now we have even a more developed Banking, financial,telecommunications, transportation and mining sector, Our private sector is now even way bigger than it was in the eighties and nineties ( though the seventies were much better ),Stick to what you know my friend. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 6:57pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
Daejoyoung:That is when military took over and you got a relief only after Sani Abacha overdosed Viagra.You gov and economy has not diversified from oil.That why you're in bad shape and were in recession recently.Oil future is dim and so is Nigeria future.US are trying to clear their stock before clean renewable energy take over by 2030..so be ready for dirty cheap oil.Who will consume oil in 2030..maybe India.. certainly not Europe or China. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 6:58pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
rvp20182:Oil crashed and we are still standing. Shame on you. What you should worry about is your $60 bn economy and the expanding slum population. ![]() 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kur17: 7:01pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
rvp20182: Nigeria just like Somalia and DRC are the blacksheeps of the family, esp Nigeria. Africa(minus nigere) will have a average GDP growth of over 4.% in 2018, but you add Nigeria it dilutes the momentum to 3%, Minus Nigeria, there's 400m poor people in Africa, when you add Nigeria to jumps by 20% to 500m By the year 2030, 90% of poverty incidence will be in Africa, 40% of that will be from Nigeria alone 2 Likes
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 7:01pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
Daejoyoung:The idiot is in pain because his country is small, unimportant and unsuccessful (in Mourhino's voice. ![]() |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 7:02pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
obaaderemi:our economy is growing at 6% and if you factor our kshs strength against USD..that like 10%.As we speak we are at 90B.And this growth so diversified nothing can take it down.Oil is down to 45...start contingency plans. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 7:04pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
Kur17:Remove Nigeria's GDP from Africa's GDP and the rest is insignificant. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 7:04pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
rvp20182:Oil was not the singular cause of the recession, but it was a major cause though, we only need a leader who can implement tax reforms and diversify Government's source of income, and this oil thing would hardly lead to a recession. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 7:06pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
rvp20182:Still lower than Lagos, a state in Nigeria. ![]() |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 7:07pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
Daejoyoung:what else caused recession. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 7:08pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
obaaderemi:According to Yemi Kale. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 7:09pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
rvp20182:According to statistics from internationally recognized bodies. ![]() |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 7:11pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
obaaderemi:The same bodies also tell us you have nearly 80m people living in extreme poverty..overtaking India.140m people poor..living below 2 dollars a day |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Ibrahimanees: 7:11pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
When people talk about how Nigeria's future is all bleak and doom because of petroleum, I was always like "really"? Yes the world is moving towards renewable and clean energy but they still need petroleum, you know why? Petrochemicals! Petroleum is still needed in production of rubbers, gels, fertilizers, synthetics. With polymerization you can produce virtually everything needed for day to day materials; piping, insulation e.t.c. So yes, the world is moving away from using dirty fuels but it will still need petroleum for a very very long time. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 7:14pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
Ibrahimanees:Those are oil waste..from refinieries.Oil will be as dirty cheap as coal.Only few oil well will be profitable.Those in Middle East.The rest won't make business sense.Electric cars, planes and machinery running off renewable grid is the future.Kenya is leading there..we just need to switch of few thermal diesel plants and depend entirely on renewable. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 7:16pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
rvp20182:Why would you believe that poo if you wouldn't believe them when they told the whole world that the Nigerian economy is the largest in Africa? Why have you been crying ever since? ![]() |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 7:17pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
obaaderemi:Coz you don't need to be ecomentric to know Nigerian is poor country.Wealth and poverty are NOT easy to hide. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 7:19pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
rvp20182:And yet your country is investing about $100bn in oil and gas. You know little. ![]() 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by TMKsouth: 7:20pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
forgiveness: Dude, this response says a lot about how Nigeria is mismanaged. You want to tell me that it's extremely difficult for you to fathom that anything good has been done in the last 25 yrs of black rule in SA? Forget that people have been lifted out of poverty, have proper housing, power, water & sanitation, a functioning social welfare system, improved literacy rates, universal healthcare, and have their basic human rights respected & protected. I think what u want to see instead is govt building a new city (like Abuja). Well, I hate to break it to you but it's not govts duty to build cities. The govts duty is to create a conducive environment for the private sector to thrive, through GOOD GOVERNANCE. Then business will build the cities. And they have. Almost all our cities (nationwide) have expanded due to new developments. Just have to look at Midrand, Sandton, Centurion. Dude, Jhb & Pretoria are now basically one city because of the new economic developments that have sprung up in Midrand. Anyway, seeing is believing. Here's SOME of the stuff in SA that wasn't there or have grown exponentially under Black rule - since you said you want verifiable facts. 1. Port of Durban (has become the busiest in Africa) 2. Sandton City (Africa's richest square mile) 3. Gautrain (first high-speed train in Africa) 4. Square Kilometre Array (world largest radio telescope) 5. Mandela Children's Hospital (only one in Africa) 6. World class FOOTBALL stadiums (7) 7. Constitutional Court (defender of our human rights) 8. New universities (including in Soweto) 8 Likes 3 Shares
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 7:20pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
rvp20182:And Lagos is far wealthier than Kenya. That's a shame. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by TMKsouth: 7:20pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
forgiveness: We all inherited colonial infrastructure, but we are maintaining it & building on it. Don't hate coz yours has now deteriorated. Here's more of what we've built. 5. Mandela Children's Hospital (only one in Africa) 6. World class FOOTBALL stadiums (7) 7. Constitutional Court (defender of our human rights) 8. New universities (including in Soweto) 5 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kur17: 7:21pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
rvp20182: The IMF have edited their projections, previously their projections was 5.5% or $95BB they now see Kenya's growth will be 6% in 2018 meaning we'll have a GDP of $98b in 2019, while TZ will grow at 5.8% to $60b... But for Nigeria it doesn't make sense...it grows at 1% but adds over 5% of it's GDP 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 7:22pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
obaaderemi:We don't have that money...we only have 750m barells.I hope we don't go that route..waste when of money.. renewable is the future.oil 100yrs of fame is over. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Ibrahimanees: 7:22pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
Kur17:Remove SA, Africa's growth goes up. Add SA, it comes down. So you see, Nigeria is not the only country that held Africa back this year and last year. Angola is included too. And you know one thing about predictions? they almost always never happen as expected. Nigeria GDP was predicted to overtake SA in 2020, it happened in 2014. Nigeria was expected to reach a trillion dollar economy 2019/2020, it's looking less likely to happen. Japan was predicted to to overtake US in GDP, now it's struggling to catch up to China. China was once predicted to hold some of the poorest people on earth, it sounds laughable now. You can hardly find prediction that happens 100% as expected! 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 7:24pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
Kur17:interesting |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Ibrahimanees: 7:26pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
rvp20182:Why did you say only Middle East will be profitable? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 7:28pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
Ibrahimanees:Their cost of production is less than 10 dollars.Some Saudi Oil you can literally scoop off ground..and can get to ship at 3 dollars.In other countries you need like 5km rig and even more extensive pipeline.Nigeria cost of production is 30 dollars plus. |
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