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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 5:23am On Jan 15, 2019

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 5:37am On Jan 15, 2019
Goel:

Population ususally shrinks with enormous per capita income growths and people compensating consumption it by buying luxuries.
Moreover, China is an export led economy and also depends upon consumption of other countries.
I think more population doesnt necessarily mean more consumption.Small European nations beat giant nations in consumption.The right question therefore is once you become rich by having less $ less kids how do you raise and sustain high income in a country while competing with poor low income countries.And the answer is transitioning the country into high tech high paying jobs that can sustain consumption.A poor man may drink 50 litres of milk a year..while richer man will consume may 500 litres...that huge consumption scope per capita before you even transition to luxury consumption.Kazikazi need real life example..TZ family has 6 kids and kenya family 2 kids...TZ family for most part of first 20yrs will survive entirely on labour of both parents will remain mostly poor, malnourished and with zero investments or savings.They may consume more but end up with zero savings or investment to break out of cyclic poverty.They are producing $ consuming more but growing poorer .Smaller kenya family will initially produce $ consume less but will be able to feed $ educate their children better and have some savings $ investments..eventually they may afford a tractor or better farm inputs...leading to greater wealth in short span. The better feed and educated kids will get high paying jobs.The large family kids will mostly end up unable to complete school. This is what generally happen at micro level and translate to country level.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 5:59am On Jan 15, 2019
I've never mentioned my age here.I'm infact more than 19 years!
TayserMahri:


The Kenyan standard for 21 yr olds is that they can tell without a fuss why countries trend in other countries' twittersphere. I think the 19 yr old is Jonraid if am not wrong. Ask him if he knows why Nigeria and other backward countries trend in Kenya.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 6:00am On Jan 15, 2019

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Ibrahimanis: 6:20am On Jan 15, 2019
Goel:

when India and China both will start to decline, world can only look at Nigeria as new global growth driver. So, they need to prepare from now.
I Am of mind that India is just beginning to grow, and you say it will start to decline at the end of the century, why?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:42am On Jan 15, 2019
You better use it now before the world switch from dirty fuel (read oil+coal) into green renewable energy (read solar+wind+hydro) pretty soon. Even US of A is trying to exhaust their oil before the switch off date. By 2030-2040 oil will be on it's way out like steam went out last century.Most developed countries will definitely ban petrol & diesel powered vehicles by 2030. It won't make any sense to use polluting oil when there is clean electric engines.
forgiveness:


My friend, we have the second largest deposit of tar sand in the world. It's more than what you think.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 6:53am On Jan 15, 2019
LETS GO FLYING

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 6:55am On Jan 15, 2019
rvp2018:
I think more population doesnt necessarily mean more consumption.Small European nations beat giant nations in consumption.The right question therefore is once you become rich by having less $ less kids how do you raise and sustain high income in a country while competing with poor low income countries.And the answer is transitioning the country into high tech high paying jobs that can sustain consumption.A poor man may drink 50 litres of milk a year..while richer man will consume may 500 litres...that huge consumption scope per capita before you even transition to luxury consumption.Kazikazi need real life example..TZ family has 6 kids and kenya family 2 kids...TZ family for most part of first 20yrs will survive entirely on labour of both parents will remain mostly poor, malnourished and with zero investments or savings.They may consume more but end up with zero savings or investment to break out of cyclic poverty.They are producing $ consuming more but growing poorer .Smaller kenya family will initially produce $ consume less but will be able to feed $ educate their children better and have some savings $ investments..eventually they may afford a tractor or better farm inputs...leading to greater wealth in short span. The better feed and educated kids will get high paying jobs.The large family kids will mostly end up unable to complete school. This is what generally happen at micro level and translate to country level.
Who asked you those? Even an illiterate dude knows the bigger the family the harder it gets to sustain.Who doesn't know simple things like having 2 kids is much easier to maintain than having more kids? Who doesn't know by having fewer kids a nation can b easily become a middle income? Who doesn't know that?? How can you waste time explaining a thing which everybody knows?? Pwopwopwopwo...

We are talking about population shrinkage! Shrinking economies,the effects of shrinking population on ecomies!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 7:05am On Jan 15, 2019
Kazikazi:
Who asked you those? Even an illiterate dude knows the bigger the family the harder it gets to sustain.Who doesn't know simple things like having 2 kids is much easier to maintain than having more kids? Who doesn't know by having fewer kids a nation can b easily become a middle income? Who doesn't know that?? How can you waste time explaining a thing which everybody knows?? Pwopwopwopwo...

We are talking about population shrinkage! Shrinking economies,the effects of shrinking population on ecomies!

Let's see the dala dalas, and learn to spell dimwit.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 7:07am On Jan 15, 2019
gallivant:


Stop lying to Nigerians. You need to work on this complex mess! Start with housing and drainage, stop dreaming about nuclear science. Lol

www.nairaland.com/attachments/8468867_5402161425c8cf2a0aa7o_jpegf640fbb5a078b3a4b700a652ec1b7124


www.nairaland.com/attachments/8468868_800pxdaressalaamtanzania_jpega0ac1ba989250d827822aaf19dec2c96
Helloooo kiberans..

Dar es salaam is a city with almost no red soil! Dar es salaam is mostly seated at white sands.Posting pictures of slums with red soil and claiming it to be Dar its stupid.You have circulated this pic all over the international medias.

Pwopwopwopwo..
Dar has white sands not like your red soil kibera

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 7:22am On Jan 15, 2019
Goel:

Population ususally shrinks with enormous per capita income growths and people compensating consumption it by buying luxuries.
Moreover, China is an export led economy and also depends upon consumption of other countries.
That will work better if there is a minimal shrinkages! In the issue of continuous shrinkages like what is projected in Japan,it will be impossible to substitute it with anything.Japan's population is projected to shrink to 85 millions in the year 2050 from the current of 124m. By 2800 it will go down to only 2 millions people.Definitely buying of luxuries won't help.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 7:35am On Jan 15, 2019
Kazikazi:
Helloooo kiberans..

Dar es salaam is a city with almost no red soil! Dar es salaam is mostly seated at white sands.Posting pictures of slums with red soil and claiming it to be Dar its stupid.You have circulated this pic all over the international medias.

Pwopwopwopwo..
Dar has white sands not like your red soil kibera

Yo Nigerians, the circus has arrived. I proudly present, the Tanzanian fool...
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:38am On Jan 15, 2019
I am glad you understand that have less and less kids is the way to go. On population shrinkage - that is clearly a first world problem that is far remove from your witchraft lazy country.You need two centuries to get there...so worry about your population doubling to 120M when you cannot do anything sophisticated beyond maize & beans - and cashewnuts. Population decline is a nice problem to have. By time you're seeing population shrinkage you're rich enough to deal with it.
Kazikazi:
Who asked you those? Even an illiterate dude knows the bigger the family the harder it gets to sustain.Who doesn't know simple things like having 2 kids is much easier to maintain than having more kids? Who doesn't know by having fewer kids a nation can b easily become a middle income? Who doesn't know that?? How can you waste time explaining a thing which everybody knows?? Pwopwopwopwo...

We are talking about population shrinkage! Shrinking economies,the effects of shrinking population on ecomies!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 7:41am On Jan 15, 2019
About those cashew nuts... grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:43am On Jan 15, 2019
So you want to have more kids now so you can stop population decline. You're just a typical moronic Tanzanian. Population decline then start rising again. It's not linear.
Kazikazi:
That will work better if there is a minimal shrinkages! In the issue of continuous shrinkages like what is projected in Japan,it will be impossible to substitute it with anything.Japan's population is projected to shrink to 85 millions in the year 2050 from the current of 124m. By 2800 it will go down to only 2 millions people.Definitely buying of luxuries won't help.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:47am On Jan 15, 2019
gallivant:
About those cashew nuts... grin grin
Imagine deploying the army to buy cashew nuts. Truly banana republic.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:48am On Jan 15, 2019
Just share pictures of Dar - aerial pictures of dar - beyond the two twin towers and that small radius.
Kazikazi:
Helloooo kiberans..

Dar es salaam is a city with almost no red soil! Dar es salaam is mostly seated at white sands.Posting pictures of slums with red soil and claiming it to be Dar its stupid.You have circulated this pic all over the international medias.

Pwopwopwopwo..
Dar has white sands not like your red soil kibera
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:50am On Jan 15, 2019
Dar - at least Kenya slums like South African - are contained - the entire Dar city is like Nigeria cities - SLUMPOLIS


More Dar - SlumPolis




More Dar - Slumpolis

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 7:55am On Jan 15, 2019
rvp20183:
Imagine deploying the army to buy cashew nuts. Truly banana republic.

A caricature in 'Defense' of the 'United Republic', truly pathetic I must say. undecided
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samsobo24(m): 8:16am On Jan 15, 2019
gallivant:
Only in Kenya



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu_7Ff2pah4




































https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ap4Fp133TQo
Kenyans excuse and failure for advanced bus systems (BRT)

Kaduna,Enugu,IB,Abeokuta and many states all have BRT systems but not as advanced as Lagos

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:19am On Jan 15, 2019
Dar - The Glorius Slumpolis. Just like Nigerian cities and the likes of kinshasasa.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 8:24am On Jan 15, 2019
What Japan is going through now is something anticipated in demographics,it's not a strange phenomena- that's how a normal curve should be.

However,their high life expectancy and very low birth rates is actually their major pain now.I'm into the idea that the ideal life expectancy shouldn't cross the 80 mark or better still be not more than 75 years and the fertility rate should somehow equal the mortality rate.The government of Japan is under immense pressure to fund the pension of it's bigger old age populace and medical insurance among other benefits.The mitigation measure of raising the retirement age hasn't helped alot.

The questions are,what is the ideal population pyramid? What is the ideal level of development and yearly economic growth that a country should show. Are developed nations going to reach a 'development ceiling' that would be detrimental to the future growth of their populace. A normal curve would be in the shape of a letter 'n'. Maintaining development at your optimum levels( the highest point in a normal curve) as a country for as long as possible seems to be a feat hard to crack!
rvp20183:
I am glad you understand that have less and less kids is the way to go. On population shrinkage - that is clearly a first world problem that is far remove from your witchraft lazy country.You need two centuries to get there...so worry about your population doubling to 120M when you cannot do anything sophisticated beyond maize & beans - and cashewnuts. Population decline is a nice problem to have. By time you're seeing population shrinkage you're rich enough to deal with it.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:27am On Jan 15, 2019
Robots are coming to fix some of those issues. Rich countries have the resources to throw solutions to such problems. Let us grapple with our problems.
Jonraid:
What Japan is going through now is something anticipated in demographics,it's not a strange phenomena- that's how a normal curve should be.

However,their high life expectancy and very low birth rates is actually their major pain now.I'm into the idea that the ideal life expectancy shouldn't cross the 80 mark or better still be not more than 75 years and the fertility rate should somehow equal the mortality rate.The government of Japan is under immense pressure to fund the pension of it's bigger old age populace and medical insurance among other benefits.The mitigation measure of raising the retirement age hasn't helped alot.

The questions are,what is the ideal population pyramid? What is the ideal level of development and yearly economic growth that a country should show. Are developed nations going to reach a 'development ceiling' that would be detrimental to the future growth of their populace. A normal curve would be in the shape of a letter 'n'. Maintaining development at your optimum levels( the highest point in a normal curve) as a country for as long as possible seems to be a feat hard to crack!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:32am On Jan 15, 2019
Smearing a pig with a lipstick like Dar here with BRT in a slumpolis. You can see their BRT snake it's way through informal settlements.

samsobo24:
Kenyans excuse and failure for advanced bus systems (BRT)

Kaduna,Enugu,IB,Abeokuta and many states all have BRT systems but not as advanced as Lagos
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:10am On Jan 15, 2019
Flying over SE suburbs of Dar es Salaam en route to Mafia island Coastal Aviation fly 13 seater Cessnas Tanzania East Africa.

Kenya has slums - that are contained - normally located in valleys and public land - but not entire slumpolis like these ones.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Goel: 9:27am On Jan 15, 2019
Ibrahimanis:

I Am of mind that India is just beginning to grow, and you say it will start to decline at the end of the century, why?
Coz India is too late. India has opened economy only in 1993 what India should have done decades earlier.
South Korea did same since start and became developed country.

https://www.livemint.com/Opinion/b77y9kGTmGV0lK5RmStNLP/Will-India-turn-old-before-it-becomes-rich.html

https://blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2015/07/31/how-india-will-start-shrinking-after-2050/

India's fertility rate is near replacement level, population growth is close to 1% and increasing life expectancy with medical services only adds old people unable to work for country. So, we are a bit late.

India was very good with social development efforts but was late for economic reforms. You can see, our population growth and poverty ratio are high of yours despite same income level.
India an at its best can only become a middle income economy like Malaysia or Thailand. Not anywhere near Europe at least in this century.

But yes, it will be world's only left global power after US & China decline because big population and upper middle income will make Indian Economy & military budget even bigger.

India is world's last big country where there is a room for economic boom and economic boom is happening. Other countries are either way small or way developed to grow further.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_Century

Only a United Africa can be bigger in next century.
Kazikazi:
That will work better if there is a minimal shrinkages! In the issue of continuous shrinkages like what is projected in Japan,it will be impossible to substitute it with anything.Japan's population is projected to shrink to 85 millions in the year 2050 from the current of 124m. By 2800 it will go down to only 2 millions people.Definitely buying of luxuries won't help.
I was actually replying to question about how to survive a population decline.
No way I said that you can sustain your economy with declining population. You will fall down sooner or later. China, Japan & Russia are witnessing it, India Vietnam and Bangladesh will soon, even much before becoming rich.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samsobo24(m): 9:34am On Jan 15, 2019
NairobiWalker:
I saw someone post a photo of Orlando gated community claiming it's Port Harcout. Who was it?
MY MAN, I Can see you can't believe the estate was too beautiful to be true

That was PH golf estate.

When you talk about landscaping and beautification, give the whole credit to ABJ


You saw the pics of Uzzyke and the first class architecture, Lagos estates also have greeneries like Victoria Garden city lekki but the whole thumbs up goes to Abuja estates.

The Abj masterplan says for every home or structure, you have to create room for natural aesthetics


But i must say, Lagos needs to do more in landscaping,the Lagos state parks and gardens should do more.

But those your Estates are reserved fot only the whites,no black kenyan there try living there except for few.



Any good Nairobi Estate can only be found not too far away from CBD

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:39am On Jan 15, 2019
1) Provide proof that PH golf estate has been built.
2) Most Nairobi estates now are in Nairobi Metro - Nairobi bedroom - hosting 2M plus people - are in nearby counties roughly 30kms from CBD.
3) Most formerly residential estates in nairobi proper - are being converted to office or apartments - they are going to be very few suburbs in Nairobi - maybe only Karen.

For example Greenpark here is roughly 30Kms from Nairobi CBD.





samsobo24:
MY MAN, I Can see you can't believe the estate was too beautiful to be true

That was PH golf estate.

When you talk about landscaping and beautification, give the whole credit to ABJ


You saw the pics of Uzzyke and the first class architecture, Lagos estates also have greeneries like Victoria Garden city lekki but the whole thumbs up goes to Abuja estates.

The Abj masterplan says for every home or structure, you have to create room for natural aesthetics


But i must say, Lagos needs to do more in landscaping,the Lagos state parks and gardens should do more.

But those your Estates are reserved fot only the whites,no black kenyan there try living there except for few.



Any good Nairobi Estate can only be found not too far away from CBD

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samsobo24(m): 9:42am On Jan 15, 2019
Ibrahimanis:
Lag
Lagos emergency management is by far the most advanced in Africa.


They are equipped with world class infrastructure, found only in developed cities of the world.They have high end technology for monitoring activities

Centres are scattered all.over the sate and not only CBD like out brothers


Kenyans should just Google LASEMA and see results
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samsobo24(m): 9:45am On Jan 15, 2019
rvp20183:
1) Provide proof that PH golf estate has been built.
2) Most Nairobi estates now are in Nairobi Metro - Nairobi bedroom - hosting 2M plus people - are in nearby counties roughly 30kms from CBD.
3) Most formerly residential estates in nairobi proper - are being converted to office or apartments - they are going to be very few suburbs in Nairobi - maybe only Karen.

For example Greenpark here is roughly 30Kms from Nairobi CBD.





see how backward the buildings are

Are you okay, Google search and see the results for yourself
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jaycent(m): 9:47am On Jan 15, 2019
NigeriaIsDoomed:
It hurts them to receive a red card from their women.
Who would want to get killed by hunger and starvation. grin
Their women know better thing na?all their men look skinny with long big head like corn grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:48am On Jan 15, 2019
Nairobi bedroom is outside Nairobi - in it's metro - with 2M plus people commuting daily to Nairobi.
1) Migaa golf estate is nearly 40kms from Nairobi. This is not phantom like Nigeria PH.

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