theenchanter:
those attacks can never happen in Abuja or Lagos, terrorists attack can only happen in far away northeast.

But if it happens in Abuja, it'll take less than 3hrs before it's tamed.

Like it took less than 3 hrs to save the Chibok girls.

NairobiWalker:


Yea, like life expectancy is not measured per capita and that's why we just list it here but manufacturing per capita is in order. Nigeria with 200M people cannot boast of having a manufacturing industry worth $4 billion. In fact with that value they are grossly underperforming. However if a country like Djibout with 950k people or Mauritius with 1.3 million people had that worth of manufacturing, they would definitely rank as the most industrialized country in Africa. If you can't understand that then I don't know what to say about Nigeria's education system.

U killed me with the highlighted.

How were u able to measure naija's manufacturing sector? cos I know manufacturing is measured by 'manufacturing value added'

U guys really need to get some education and stop disgracing ur educational system here.

NairobiWalker:


Like it took less than 3 hrs to save the Chibok girls.

chibok girls didn't happen in Abuja or Lagos. Tryna comprehend things.

NairobiWalker:


Like it took less than 3 hrs to save the Chibok girls.

chibok girls didn't happen in Abuja or Lagos. Tryna comprehend.

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theenchanter:
U killed me with the highlighted.

How were u able to measure naija's manufacturing sector? cos I know manufacturing is measured by 'manufacturing value added'

U guys really need to get some education and stop disgracing ur educational system here.

The figure was actually brought here by a Nigerian........Stop diverting from the main point with your stupid ambigous linguistics. The manufacturing worth of a country can be measured. MVA is simply the net-output. The worth is the total worth of the industry including the assets involved. Why are you all stupid?

theenchanter:
chibok girls didn't happen in Abuja or Lagos. Tryna comprehend.

So your security forces suddenly become competent when they are in Abuja and Lagos and become vegetables when elsewhere?
Yet you are always here telling us how Kenya is only Nairobi.

NairobiWalker:


So your security forces suddenly become competent when they are in Abuja and Lagos and become vegetables when elsewhere?
Yet you are always here telling us how Kenya is only Nairobi.

This are funny people always shifting goal posts
They police are superab in abuja and lagos but in maidguri they become watchmen

NairobiWalker:


So your security forces suddenly become competent when they are in Abuja and Lagos and become vegetables when elsewhere?
Yet you are always here telling us how Kenya is only Nairobi.

security is all about information and intelligence. Get that into ur bl.oc.ked brain.

The chances of terrorists attack happening in our capital city is very slim compared to northeastern part cos only the northeastern part of d country is prone to attack.

Intelligence is not enough in Nairobi or Kenya as a whole.

theenchanter:
security is all about information and intelligence. Get that into ur bl.oc.ked brain.

The chances of terrorists attack happening in our capital city is very slim compared to northeastern part cos only the northeastern part of d country is prone to attack.

Intelligence is not enough in Nairobi or Kenya as a whole.

I guess intelligence is also not enough in Paris, London and New York right?

Everybody knows Nigeria is lucky the aim of Boko Haram is not to frustrate the Nigerian government like alshabaab but if something like this happened in Lagos or Abuja, it would be a complete bloodbath. Nigeria just doesn't have the mechanism to control this.

Pretty impressive. Just like 7% plus growth rate that India is pulling. What is leading the push to urbanization - I guess manufacturing (for most of them) & maybe high tech (software & biotech in Bengaluru). Perhaps maybe service sector - finance & intermediation - but there doesn't seem to be a lot of push to push for resort or tourist cities.

Goel:

For 2017.
Fir 2018, Surat is now faster than Bengaluru.

Nevertheless, 10 out 10 fastest growing and 17 out of 20 fastest growing cities are from India. Chinese, African & Southeast Asian cities mention there in list are mostly outta top 20.
Here are 10 fastest growing cities for next 15 years. All from IND.


https://m.timesofindia.com/india/17-of-20-fastest-growing-cities-in-the-world-will-be-from-india/articleshow/66978406.cms

NairobiWalker:


The figure was actually brought here by a Nigerian........Stop diverting from the main point with your stupid ambigous linguistics. The manufacturing worth of a country can be measured. MVA is simply the net-output. The worth is the total worth of the industry including the assets involved. Why are you all stupid?

...... U're d one who's using ambiguous terms n it's obviously because u don't know what u're talking about, u're only here to prove a non-existent point. Read ur post below.

NairobiWalker:

Nigeria with 200M people cannot boast of having a manufacturing industry worth $4 billion. In fact with that value they are grossly underperforming. However if a country like Djibout with 950k people or Mauritius with 1.3 million people had that worth of manufacturing, they would definitely rank as the most industrialized country in Africa.

Now, my question is..... How do u calculate d manufacturing sector of a country without MVA?

how's d asset of companies tantamount to d worth of manufacturing industry cos if that's d case, dangote group of companies should dwarf d 5 biggest manufacturing companies in Kenya.

NairobiWalker:


I guess intelligence is also not enough in Paris, London and New York right?

Everybody knows Nigeria is lucky the aim of Boko Haram is not to frustrate the Nigerian government like alshabaab but if something like this happened in Lagos or Abuja, it would be a complete bloodbath. Nigeria just doesn't have the mechanism to control this.

Actually we do not pray for such, but what you should know is that Borno State has Sambisa forest at it's border which cuts across Cameroon and Chad, that border is porous, and Sambisa forest is more than twice the size of Lagos City, the major problem with BokoHaram issue is the failure of the Government in utilizing Sambisa or tightening the ever porous borders, this is why the North Eastern state of Borno and the surrounding Sambisa is a continous battle because there are also foreign West African factions and groups that comes from Chad and elsewhere to combine forces with BokoHaram in Sambisa.
BokoHaram is just one name, there are other factions like lSWAP( Islamic West African group), who dwell around the lake Chad and attack villages in Borno at once in their hundreds.

Lagos - slumpolis - look at that mess in their CBD.

NairobiWalker:


I guess intelligence is also not enough in Paris, London and New York right?

Everybody knows Nigeria is lucky the aim of Boko Haram is not to frustrate the Nigerian government like alshabaab but if something like this happened in Lagos or Abuja, it would be a complete bloodbath. Nigeria just doesn't have the mechanism to control this.

who told u d aim of BH is not to frustrate d gov?

We restricted them to d bother before they could advance to d south.

NairobiWalker:


I guess intelligence is also not enough in Paris, London and New York right?

Everybody knows Nigeria is lucky the aim of Boko Haram is not to frustrate the Nigerian government like alshabaab but if something like this happened in Lagos or Abuja, it would be a complete bloodbath. Nigeria just doesn't have the mechanism to control this.

Also Boko Haram advanced to Abuja and the middle belt in the past and were coming down south, so they actually wanted to frustrate the Government.

Dangote factory in Tanzania or say Ghana - doesn't count as Nigeria's manufacturing sector. Whatever Dangote has in Nigeria is what counts.

theenchanter:
...... U're d one who's using ambiguous terms n it's obviously because u don't know what u're talking about, u're only here to prove a non-existent point. Read ur post below.


Now, my question is..... How do u calculate d manufacturing sector of a country without MVA?

how's d asset of companies tantamount to d worth of manufacturing industry cos if that's d case, dangote group of companies should dwarf d 5 biggest manufacturing companies in Kenya.

rvp20183:
Dangote factory in Tanzania or say Ghana - doesn't count as Nigeria's manufacturing sector. Whatever Dangote has in Nigeria is what counts.

lt's just like saying Chevron and Shell doesn't count outside the U.S and Britain, or that Total in Nigeria doesn't count for Frances.

First what big deal about Abuja or Lagos - Boko Haram are killing Nigerians every week - both civilian and army - and have send nearly 10M off their settlement as refugeees.

Why would they bother attack Abuja or Lagos when they control most of North East. Alshaabab use to leave Kenya alone when they controlled large swatches of Somali and had governors, levied taxes and the works. They only resorted to cowardly terror tactics when Kenya forces went for them. Otherwise they were busy fighting Somali gov in conventional warfar.

The day Boko haram is weaken - and they are far from being weaken - I think this year if you count the atrocities - it probably a thousands plus dead and hundrend thousands displaced - then they will resort to guerrilla warfare and will employ suicide bombers & the works. But they are so strong in North East - the scared Nigeria army abandon posts and barracks - and ran on their sighting.

Right now Boko haram are actually fighting a near conventional war with Nigeria army and winning. They have tanks, rocket propelled grenades and name it - they are like a rebel forces trying to overtake the gov.

Daejoyoung:

Also Boko Haram advanced to Abuja and the middle belt in the past and were coming down south, so they actually wanted to frustrate the Government.

rvp20183:
Pretty impressive. Just like 7% plus growth rate that India is pulling. What is leading the push to urbanization - I guess manufacturing (for most of them) & maybe high tech (software & biotech in Bengaluru). Perhaps maybe service sector - finance & intermediation -

The growth ongoing right now is not an achievement but natural result of India's demographic dividend, will result into haphazard growth. India is neither growing nor bearing fruits alike China's planned growth. It will be that somewhere around 2030-35.
India needs to replan itself into an upper middle income country for actual growth.
BTW, pollution is really a problem. Damn, I just landed im Australia and realized what Oxygen is.

but there doesn't seem to be a lot of push to push for resort or tourist cities.

Well, there is a lot actually. India has one largest & fastest growing tourism industries, worth $210 billions.

Its not often in news though.

Who said they counted. What count is the profit they repartiare back as return on investments. Otherwise the manufacturing, the jobs and taxes will remain in those countries. Which is why countries invite foreign investors.

Dangote Ghana manufacturing is Ghana. Uniliver Nigeria is Nigerian. When Yemi Kale is calculating the size of Nigeria manufacturing - he will only include Dangote Manufacturing figures for Nigeria - unless he was a slowpoke.

You guys are so daft basic concepts escape you.

Daejoyoung:

lt's just like saying Chevron and Shell doesn't count outside the U.S and Britain, or that Total in Nigeria doesn't count for Frances.

Interesting - so demographic dividend - is showing up more savings & investments by households?. I thought there was major push for "MADE IN INDIA" and huge attempt by current leadership to formalize India economy.

Yes pollution is major problem in most asia cities - and the early they deal with it - the better.They need to really invest in clean energy - right now India is the major importer of oil - and all dirty coal - and that can only lead to more pollution.

Goel:

The growth ongoing right now is not an achievement but natural result of India's demographic dividend, will result into haphazard growth. India is neither growing nor bearing fruits alike China's planned growth. It will be that somewhere around 2030-35.
India needs to replan itself into an upper middle income country for actual growth.
BTW, pollution is really a problem. Damn, I just landed im Australia and realized what Oxygen is.

Well, there is a lot actually. India has one largest & fastest growing tourism industries, worth $210 billions.

Its not often in news though.

rvp20183:
First what big deal about Abuja or Lagos - Boko Haram are killing Nigerians every week - both civilian and army - and have send nearly 10M off their settlement as refugeees.

Why would they bother attack Abuja or Lagos when they control most of North East. Alshaabab use to leave Kenya alone when they controlled large swatches of Somali and had governors, levied taxes and the works. They only resorted to cowardly terror tactics when Kenya forces went for them. Otherwise they were busy fighting Somali gov in conventional warfar.

The day Boko haram is weaken - and they are far from being weaken - I think these year if you count the atrocities - it probably a thousands plus dead and hundrend thousands displaced - then they will resort to guerrila warfare.

Right now Boko haram are actually fighting a near conventional war with Nigeria army and winning.

Give me that part of the North East that is controlled by BokoHaram. What you mean is that they are in the North East and Sambisa, in the past they controlled towns and villages that were taken away from them from early 2015 and throughout that year, now in the ongoing battle they fail to maintain wherever they cease, they also have spies and elements across Borno State, because they once had the sympathy from a number of the uneducated masses there.
The North East has other states apart from Borno State, and even Borno State is a big state and has no where controlled by BokoHaram at the moment like we saw in the past, what you can say is that the citizens still live in fear because the war is still on, you can't say BokoHaram controls any town ( talkless of a city) in the state.

It's just that world has become so inured by Boko Haram atrocities in Nigeria it no longer make news. Maybe if they kidnap sweat little girls again would the world notice the atrocities they are committing daily, they've send 8m refugees out there in camps who are suffering from hunger and disease.

Just do simple google search for boko haram - news.
https://www.google.co.ke/searchq=Boko+haram&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiz4Zz6_fbfAhWi3eAKHTbJBZYQ_AUIDygC&biw
=1920&bih=969

See how Boko Haram are having field days - just a week they overrun Rann & Bega towns.


Just few days ago - they overrun a northeast Nigerian town of Rann - your cowardly underfunded army - ran and left the town for Boko Haram.

The United Nations last week said more than 30,000 people fled after a similar attack in and around the Borno town of Baga in late December.

Daejoyoung:

Give me that part of the North East that is controlled by BokoHaram. What you mean is that they are in the North East and Sambisa, in the past they controlled towns and villages that were taken away from them from early 2015 and throughout that year, now in the ongoing battle they fail to maintain wherever they cease, they also have spies and elements across Borno State, because they once had the sympathy from a number of the uneducated masses there.
The North East has other states apart from Borno State, and even Borno State is a big state and has no where controlled by BokoHaram at the moment like we saw in the past, what you can say is that the citizens still live in fear because the war is still on, you can't say BokoHaram controls any town ( talkless of a city) in the state.

Lagos.

rvp20183:
It's just that world has become so inured by Boko Haram atrocities in Nigeria it no longer make news. Maybe if they kidnap sweat little girls again would the world notice the atrocities they are committing daily, they've send 8m refugees out there in camps who are suffering from hunger and disease.

Just do simple google search for boko haram - news.
https://www.google.co.ke/searchq=Boko+haram&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiz4Zz6_fbfAhWi3eAKHTbJBZYQ_AUIDygC&biw
=1920&bih=969

See how Boko Haram are having field days - just a week they overrun Rann & Bega towns.


Just few days ago - they overrun a northeast Nigerian town of Rann - your cowardly underfunded army - ran and left the town for Boko Haram.

The United Nations last week said more than 30,000 people fled after a similar attack in and around the Borno town of Baga in late December.

Like l said, they fail to maintain wherever they cease in the ongoing war, you are not up to date.
l follow the news of insurgency daily, so l don't know why you think l wouldn't know about common news like Baga, you read the news that it was captured, but you didn't bother to read the one where it was retaken.

rvp20183:
It's just that world has become so inured by Boko Haram atrocities in Nigeria it no longer make news. Maybe if they kidnap sweat little girls again would the world notice the atrocities they are committing daily, they've send 8m refugees out there in camps who are suffering from hunger and disease.

Just do simple google search for boko haram - news.
https://www.google.co.ke/searchq=Boko+haram&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiz4Zz6_fbfAhWi3eAKHTbJBZYQ_AUIDygC&biw
=1920&bih=969

See how Boko Haram are having field days - just a week they overrun Rann & Bega towns.


Just few days ago - they overrun a northeast Nigerian town of Rann - your cowardly underfunded army - ran and left the town for Boko Haram.

The United Nations last week said more than 30,000 people fled after a similar attack in and around the Borno town of Baga in late December.

This is the latest on Rann

rvp20183:
It's just that world has become so inured by Boko Haram atrocities in Nigeria it no longer make news. Maybe if they kidnap sweat little girls again would the world notice the atrocities they are committing daily, they've send 8m refugees out there in camps who are suffering from hunger and disease.

Just do simple google search for boko haram - news.
https://www.google.co.ke/searchq=Boko+haram&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiz4Zz6_fbfAhWi3eAKHTbJBZYQ_AUIDygC&biw
=1920&bih=969

See how Boko Haram are having field days - just a week they overrun Rann & Bega towns.


Just few days ago - they overrun a northeast Nigerian town of Rann - your cowardly underfunded army - ran and left the town for Boko Haram.

The United Nations last week said more than 30,000 people fled after a similar attack in and around the Borno town of Baga in late December.

Nigeria's military recaptured the northeastern town of Rann yesterday after it was overrun by Islamic State West Africa (ISWA) insurgents a day earlier, weeks ahead of an election in which security has become a key campaign issue.

This is coming as the National Emergency Management Agency (NEMA) said Monday evening attack on Rann by Boko Haram caused many to flee the town.

Nigerian government forces and residents fled during the ISWA attack as the militants set buildings ablaze, but troops fought back and regained control of Rann yesterday, agency reports quoted military and police sources as saying.

"Boko Haram invaded Rann at about 4 p.m (on Monday). The battle continued for about three hours. Our troops retreated and later returned to fight back," said a soldier who spoke to Reuters on condition of anonymity.

Good - but it appears BK & all those ISWA - are displacing thousands every week in North East - and here you claim they have been banished to Sambiza forests.

Daejoyoung:


Nigeria's military recaptured the northeastern town of Rann yesterday after it was overrun by Islamic State West Africa (ISWA) insurgents a day earlier, weeks ahead of an election in which security has become a key campaign issue.

This is coming as the National Emergency Management Agency (NEMA) said Monday evening attack on Rann by Boko Haram caused many to flee the town.

Nigerian government forces and residents fled during the ISWA attack as the militants set buildings ablaze, but troops fought back and regained control of Rann yesterday, agency reports quoted military and police sources as saying.

"Boko Haram invaded Rann at about 4 p.m (on Monday). The battle continued for about three hours. Our troops retreated and later returned to fight back," said a soldier who spoke to Reuters on condition of anonymity.

theenchanter:
those attacks can never happen in Abuja or Lagos, terrorists attack can only happen in far away northeast.

But if it happens in Abuja, it'll take less than 3hrs before it's tamed.

You're very annoying bringing Abuja into the level of Nairobi is unacceptable. Am still using Minna as a example. That will never happen in Minna. Even when they did the second prison brake in Minna last year, they all got caught. Before you even get to the city gate you must see 3 check point. We don't sleep with 2 eyes open every street in Minna you must see a police car passing by. Both at midnight have you ever heard of bomb blast in Minna. Hell no!!

rvp20183:
Good - but it appears BK & all those ISWA - are displacing thousands every week in North East - and here you claim they have been banished to Sambiza forests.

Yeah they are displacing thousands every weak and people do flee sometimes to Cameroon due to fear of course, that's what is expected because there is no safety at the moment.
My problem is with your use of the word "Control " and "North East".
Control would mean they still maintain the villages or towns they captured.
While North East includes other states apart from Borno like Adamawa ,Yobe, etc, and all of Borno including Maiduguri, but as it stands Boko Haram has not maintained any town in only Borno, but here you are shouting North East.

Nigeria leads others in increasing number of millionaires population. lf you ask me l'll say this must be cooked data, because Nigeria is the world's poverty capital, and even if it's true then we must convert the % in this report to numbers per capita.