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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 10:30am On Jan 31, 2019
tylann:

You are right Nigerian artists shoot all they videos in south africa
That was then man! grin
plus the top 30 Nigerians music videos of 2018 was 98% shots in Nigeria and produced my Nigeria producers.
Here are the top Musics Videos for the year 2018 , Non was produced in south Africa and by a south Africans. 90 % was shot in Nigeria and 100% produced by Nigerians producers
1. Soco' - Starboy ft Wizkid, Terri, Ceeza Milli and Spotless.
2. ' Motigbana' - Olamide.
3 ' Fever' - Wizkid.
4. ' Assurance' - Davido.
5. ' Amaka' - 2baba ft Peruzzi.
6. ' Fake Love' - Wizkid ft Duncan Mighty.
7. ' Ye' - Burna Boy
8. Olamide - 'Science Student'
9. Falz - 'This is Nigeria'
10 . Tekno - 'Jogodo'
11. DJ Spinall - 'Nowo' feat. Wizkid
12. Dj Spinall - 'Baba' feat. Kiss Daniel
13. Mr Real - 'Legbegbe'
14. Wande Coal - 'So Mi So'
15. Adekunle Gold - 'Ire'
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by dadark: 10:31am On Jan 31, 2019
jonraid2:
In short,the Tanzanian small tunnels can't accommodate double-stacked containers!

why should they concentrate on that....??....

i worked in a tunnel in europe....its a strange job....i didnt liked it to be underground....
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 10:31am On Jan 31, 2019
dadark:


chaiii,why would you want to transport a double-decker bus through a tunnel....??

the bus broke down or what....??

nawa for you kenyans....
He's stupid. What has double decker buses got to do with railway tunnels?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jonraid2: 10:31am On Jan 31, 2019
We are at more than 6% this time and at half their population plus their currency just got undervalued!
obaaderemi:
Their economy is growing as fast as a bullet train. Its going to mash you up very soon. grin 8.5% growth and above for more than 10 years! Only Nigeria can achieve that in sub Sahara Africa.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by dadark: 10:32am On Jan 31, 2019
obaaderemi:
He's stupid. What has double decker buses got to do with railway tunnels?

i dont know.... undecided undecided
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 10:33am On Jan 31, 2019
You started well then veered off. Actually Ethiopia cannot beat kenya in textile and apparel. We have huge EPZ in Athi River - Nairobi Metro - and we export nearly half a billion dollar worth of textile to US under AGOA. I think in Africa - only Lesotho - export more.

Ethiopia are basically starting from literrally zero - and they are doing a good job attracting chinese low manufacturing.

Kenya has always had a strong manufacturing industry - possibly second strongest after South Africa.

We are talking of new fdi to manufacturing...here Ethiopia are beating kenya...most new manufacturers are choosing Ethiopia for
1) Cheap slavish labour. Kenya we have higher labour cost and stronger unions.
2) Cheap subdizied power - hyrdo - but you know Ethiopia & droughts are twins - and gov subsidy.
3) Cheap free land - Ethiopia gov simply grab land from peasant and give it to investors.
4) Tax incentives - Ethiopia gov are giving investors 10yrs tax holidays.

However those that have gone there - are also regretting - Ethiopia macro-economics are not looking good - forex controls is crazy - so repatriating profit is nearly impossible.

In short our manufacturing is now 8-10% of GDP - that is like 8B dollars. Ethiopia is about 3% of their GDP - that not even 2.5B dollars. So our manufacturing is about 3-4 times as big as Ethiopia.

As for Tanzania - those laggards will NEVER catch up. Ethiopia can slave for long hours working for 20 dollars and are incredibly disciplined & resilient like Chinese automatons. .

Tanzanaia - I think you don't know Tanzanians. Those people even if you paid them what - will not work. They will arrive maybe 2hrs late, gossip for another 2hrs, go for lunch for another 2hrs, and then complain the rest of the afternoon. And you cannot fire them. Firing a Tanzanian takes a company like 1-2 yrs going through the legal labyrinth.

In short Tanzania is a hopeless case. If they were to open their doors for free movement of labour - their companies would swifly hire kenyans.

The tangential issues - Ethiopia is 100m but very poor. Kenya is 50M and low middle class. Their is very little consumption demand in Ethiopia so industries there are export oriented.

Ethiopia airways was making huge losses when KQ was the most profitable. Airline industry is tough. Ethiopia airlines is basically heavily funded by Ethiopia Gov. KQ our gov did the first & most successfully privatization of airline in 90s....and the airline was doing great..until they got mixed up in oil futures...when oil was rising till it got 140...KQ decided to buy oil futures...and then Oil crashed to now 50s. It crashed Nigeria economy just like it crashed KQ. For more than 10yrs KQ have been stuck with expensive oil future contracts - that see them buying oil at even 140 dollars a barrel - when competitors are buying at 40 dollars.

obaaderemi:
You are correct @ bolded. Kudos for your honesty.grin. There's no way you can outcompete Ethiopia on manufacturing, especially low wage manufacturing, which is actually the backbone of any third world country. The major reasons are these, pay attention grin:
*Ethiopia, despite opening up its market late, is more organized than little India. For manufacturing alone, they have 5 new state of the art eco friendly industrial parks. This is something Kenya and other African countries need to learn from Ethiopia.

*Ethiopia is less corrupt than Kenya by far. Who wouldn't want to invest in such a place. Ethiopia is 144 out of 175 countries on the latest corruption index. Kenya is a miserable 144. That's why investors are holding fast to their purses. grin if na you nko?

*Ethiopian manufacturing started long ago. They have a serious headstart above Kenya. Ethiopia's long history of textile and garment began in 1939 with its first modern textile factory. At that time, most Kenyans were still running wild buck.nakedd. grin

* Today, textile is a booming sector in Ethiopia. Tommy Hilfiger, Calvin Klein, Hela,etc all make clothing there.

* Population. That influences markets. grin

* Ethiopian Airways is playing a significant role in Ethiopia's economy. It's Africa's largest and fastest growing airways. And it's profitable unlike the corruption ridden, basket case loss making Kenya airways which continues to drain tax payer's money. grin

*Oh, and this: the Ethiopians are not arrogant like you people. They stooped low to make peace with Eritrea. And they are about to have access to Assab and Massawa ports again. This would really impact economy of Ethiopia in days to come.

*Electric power is another thing Ethiopia is really working on with the construction of a new huge dam. grin

*Tanzania is working against you. Don't underrate Tanzanians. grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 10:33am On Jan 31, 2019
dadark:


chaiii,why would you want to transport a double-decker bus through a tunnel....??

the bus broke down or what....??

nawa for you kenyans....
I real don't understand a kiberan logic! A double decker bus in a railway tunnel?
Huhuhuhuhu..

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jonraid2: 10:35am On Jan 31, 2019
We all want to avoid building tunnels,they are expensive and time consuming to build but when the topography says no,you'll just have to dig through! There is no any other solution!
dadark:


why should they concentrate on that....??....

i worked in a tunnel in europe....its a strange job....i didnt liked it to be underground....
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 10:35am On Jan 31, 2019
theenchanter:
its like u're here as a troll.

Majority of Nigerian videos are shot in nigeria but if they shoot outside nigeria, SA is far from choice.

Iam not here to troll iam here to say the truth
You artists like s.a that is the truth
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by dadark: 10:35am On Jan 31, 2019
Kazikazi:
I real don't understand a kiberan logic! A double decker bus in a railway tunnel?
Huhuhuhuhu..

hahahahahaha....they are so silly....
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jonraid2: 10:36am On Jan 31, 2019
It was an analogy used to represent an obscene type of cargo,well an educated mind would have gotten that!
Kazikazi:
I real don't understand a kiberan logic! A double decker bus in a railway tunnel?
Huhuhuhuhu..
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by dadark: 10:38am On Jan 31, 2019
tylann:

Iam not here to troll iam here to say the truth
You artists like s.a that is the truth

abegi,send another kenyan to argue here....you are always sayin silly stuffs....

that rvp guy is better in argueing....

go and play with the hyenas....

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 10:38am On Jan 31, 2019
kikuyu1:


I'm optimistic ofc,but realistically we need to find our niche in man'f. We'll never be a low wage producer like Bangladesh;politically untenable and thanks to workers rights that's impossible! Those slave wage sweat shops and factories paying 3$ daily are a no go here.
The two bolded points is what is killing Little India. Unemployment is more serious in Kenya than any other east African country. Many of your sons fighting here on nairaland due to joblessness would jump at $3 per hour wage in Kenya. That's over 300Ksh. grin Your arrogance is mind blowing.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 10:38am On Jan 31, 2019
obaaderemi:
Their economy is growing as fast as a bullet train. Its going to mash you up very soon. grin 8.5% growth and above for more than 10 years! Only Nigeria can achieve that in sub Sahara Africa.

Baboon your economy can hardly pass 3% mark
And you are dreaming of 8%
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jonraid2: 10:40am On Jan 31, 2019
You lot should be concentrating in killing albinos and buying off your opposition! The MAJIMAJI mentality where you hoped that the bullets of the Germans would not kill your warriors is still fresh in Tanzania!
Kazikazi:
I real don't understand a kiberan logic! A double decker bus in a railway tunnel?
Huhuhuhuhu..
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jonraid2: 10:42am On Jan 31, 2019
Three dollars per hour and three dollars per day are completely two different things!
obaaderemi:
The two bolded points is what is killing Little India. Unemployment is more serious in Kenya than any other east African country. Many of your sons fighting here on nairaland due to joblessness would jump at $3 per hour wage in Kenya. That's over 300Ksh. grin Your arrogance is mind blowing.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 10:44am On Jan 31, 2019
3 dollar a hour is great. But that is not what manufacturers are prepared to pay. More like 2 dollars a day. In Kenya by the time manufactures pay workers social pension & medical care (complusory) - they would already be past Ethiopia salary. So yes Kenya salary are not competitive regionally - Ethiopia, TZ, Ug and even Nigeria workers - earn about less than Kenyan average salaries and wages.
obaaderemi:
The two bolded points is what is killing Little India. Unemployment is more serious in Kenya than any other east African country. Many of your sons fighting here on nairaland due to joblessness would jump at $3 per hour wage in Kenya. That's over 300Ksh. grin Your arrogance is mind blowing.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 10:44am On Jan 31, 2019
dadark:


abegi,send another kenyan to argue here....you are always sayin silly stuffs....

that rvp guy is better in argueing....

go and play with the hyenas....

Go play with snails and rodents
Iam saying the truth you artists shoot videos in s.a
Look at this citizen of the world poverty capital
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 10:46am On Jan 31, 2019
All oil producing countries grew at those rates - when Oil prices was 140 dollars idiot. That really is nothing Nigeria did. It just oil price. And you have crashed to -1-2% when Oil crashed. Pray for Oil every day your wake up.
obaaderemi:
Their economy is growing as fast as a bullet train. Its going to mash you up very soon. grin 8.5% growth and above for more than 10 years! Only Nigeria can achieve that in sub Sahara Africa.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 10:46am On Jan 31, 2019
tylann:

Baboon your economy can hardly pass 3% mark
And you are dreaming of 8%
Monkey, I don't expect a 19 year old disco dancing rag jeans- sagging idiot like you to understand that Nigeria's economy until 4 years ago was one of the world's fastest growing economies. Now, piss off. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 10:47am On Jan 31, 2019
jonraid2:
Three dollars per hour and three dollars per day are completely two different things!
Many Little Indians would still jump at $3 per day.grin Your unemployment and poverty are big.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by dadark: 10:49am On Jan 31, 2019
tylann:

Go play with snails and rodents
Iam saying the truth you artists shoot videos in s.a
Look at this citizen of the world poverty capital

and what does it matter if they shoot their....??

i dont get you.... undecided undecided
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jonraid2: 10:50am On Jan 31, 2019
If you just attempt to strike in most of those countries you have mentioned,you are more likely to get sacked! It's much better working under rights! Attempt to harass your workers and the Kenya's labour Union takes you to court in a heartbeat.
rvp2018:
3 dollar a hour is great. But that is not what manufacturers are prepared to pay. More like 2 dollars a day. In Kenya by the time manufactures pay workers social pension & medical care (complusory) - they would already be past Ethiopia salary. So yes Kenya salary are not competitive regionally - Ethiopia, TZ, Ug and even Nigeria workers - earn about less than Kenyan average salaries and wages.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 10:50am On Jan 31, 2019
obaaderemi:
Monkey, I don't expect a 19 year old disco dancing rag jeans- sagging idiot like you to understand that Nigeria's economy until 4 years ago was one of the world's fastest growing economies. Now, piss off. grin

That is history you economy rises and falls with oil prices
While Ethiopia economy is non resource
Can Nigeria economy hit 8% now without oil prices going up ??
Baboon
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 10:50am On Jan 31, 2019
obaaderemi:
Wow! The bolded confirms what Kazikazi has been saying here since. Thank you for finally admitting you need Tanzania more than Tanzania needs Little India.
Kenya is pressed between Ethiopia and TZ.Kenya is btn a rock and a hard place.These two economies are using same methodologies in achieving industrial revolution.

1.Cheap electricity
1.devaluing their currencies
3.Forming countless industrial parks and SEZ
4.Cheap labour
5.Free land to manufacturers
6.Fast railway network

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 10:51am On Jan 31, 2019
dadark:


and what does it matter if they shoot their....??

i dont get you.... undecided undecided

Of course you can't get me
citizen of the world poverty capital ( Nigeria)
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by dadark: 10:52am On Jan 31, 2019
tylann:

That is history you economy rises and falls with oil prices
While Ethiopia economy is non resource
Can Nigeria economy hit 8% now without oil prices going up ??
Baboon

nigerias economy has peaked....has little to do with oil....
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by dadark: 10:54am On Jan 31, 2019
tylann:

Of course you can't get me
citizen of the world poverty capital ( Nigeria)

you think you go shoot their for free....??

can you even think sef....??...

double decker buses stuff....
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jonraid2: 10:54am On Jan 31, 2019
The irony! Oh dear! Where is the poverty chart?
obaaderemi:
Many Little Indians would still jump at $3 per day.grin Your unemployment and poverty are big.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 10:55am On Jan 31, 2019
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by dadark: 10:55am On Jan 31, 2019
jonraid2:
The irony! Oh dear! Where is the poverty chart?

that cant be possible....we would be at each others throats by now....
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 10:55am On Jan 31, 2019
Actually a growing TZ and Ethiopia is good for Kenya. Only a jealous TZ would think otherwise.See South Africa lifts many southern countries boats. You see Kenya economy is growing as you Eth & TZ grow. The only problem your growth is down to mining.
Kazikazi:
Kenya is pressed between Ethiopia and TZ.Kenya is btn a rock and a hard place.These two economies are using same methodologies in achieving industrial revolution.

1.Cheap electricity
1.devaluing their currencies
3.Forming countless industrial parks and SEZ
4.Cheap labour
5.Free land to manufacturers
6.Fast railway network

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