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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 10:49am On Oct 28, 2019 |
Stevoh18: Since you can say this to TZ then I have every right to say the same to you...... Can you remind me again why we are still arguing about this when you knew the bolded this whole time 3 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 10:50am On Oct 28, 2019 |
Problemkid1: Thanks very much for this 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 10:52am On Oct 28, 2019 |
pokuasi: Abi..were they not also breaking ECOWAS protocol 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 10:56am On Oct 28, 2019 |
rvp20182:Your cabinet Secretary of treasury made it clear that you are broke. You are borrowing to repay old loans. Your debt to GDP is 63%,that is higher than SA of 59% although SA has more advanced economy. A lower middle economy like Kenya to have the high amount of debts,that equates to disaster. Tanzania don't borrow to pay salaries. All salaries are from our revenues and public servants gets it on time each month 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 10:59am On Oct 28, 2019 |
samorobo:Kenya is the only country which borrows to repay old loans! Have u ever heard about that anywhere else? Very strange thing 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 11:05am On Oct 28, 2019 |
I think you understanding of economics is at best rudimentary. Concentrate on clay matters. 1) GDP to Debt 2) Debt servicing to Revenues. 3) Quality of debt. Now let me school you a little bit. Kenya GDP to debt has risen to around 59-60% from around 45%. Yes that is a little concerning because we need to be around 50% but the we are fine because of the quality of the loans we take - we don't have a lot of commercial loans ( we retired most of them)- we have long maturing low interest loans (some 50ys tenured) - we have healthy mix of domestic loan (no forex risk) - and most of the rest are just public guarantees (about 20%) that we may never pay. That is why our debt servicing ratio is healthy 30%. Now let look at Tanzania. You have very low GDP to debt ratio but you have higher debt servicing ratio. You know why? Because your treasury is STUPIDLY taking in commercial loans - like 1.5B dollars for SGR everytime I think about it - I just laugh. Now because of such decisions - you're spending 50% of your revenues to service debt. Leaving you with less money to pay salaries, pensions and recurrent expenditure. When you talk about salaries on time - Kenya pays about triple (our teachers or police officers earn thrice) - and we pay them on 15-20th - way before the end month. Kazikazi: 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 11:06am On Oct 28, 2019 |
Debt refinancing is used by US, China and many smart countries to manage debt. You take new cheaper loan to retire poor quality aka expensive debt. Kenya has prudent financial management team - we are doing debt refinancing to keep our debt in check. Once we are able to LEVERAGE again - we will borrow new debt. So understand REFINANCING AND LEVERAGING mr Clay Engineer. Kazikazi: 3 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:15am On Oct 28, 2019 |
rvp20182: Don't even speak about brokerage let alone dragging Nigeria to it...your debt to GDP is now sitting comfortable at $60 while your fake GDP is not even up to $100bn and this is supposed to be paid by 50 million souls... According to report you guys are living large on debt , so technically your debt is your GDP and vice versa 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 11:19am On Oct 28, 2019 |
Forget about kenya and deal with your Terrifying Debt to Revenue Ratio . You can cook GDP to have very low gdp to debt - but GDP doesn't pay debt - revenues does Nigeria Fears Fiscal Crisis as Debts Take Big Slice of Revenue https://www.pressreader.com/nigeria/thisday/20181027/281552291851708 samorobo: 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 11:22am On Oct 28, 2019 |
This Onyinbo captures Nigeria. You're back to 2005 - and have wasted all the debt relief you got from Paris Club. Nigeria’s biggest economic problem, though – and the issue that requires real political acceptance from Buhari’s new government – is the country’s growing public debt. Since assuming office in 2015 President Buhari’s governments have added considerably to the nation’s debt, which now exceeds $85 billion. In essence, the nation’s debt is about where it was in 2005-06, just before Nigeria benefited from massive debt relief as part of a program coordinated by the Paris Club, IMF, World Bank and the African Development Bank. To have squandered the debt reduction in just fourteen years and have no tangible economic progress to show for it is beyond disappointing. https://www.forbes.com/sites/ikebrannon/2019/08/06/nigerias-deceptively-large-external-debt-could-threaten-its-economy/#463118532491 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Stevoh18: 11:35am On Oct 28, 2019 |
samorobo: Even with your exaggerated GDP your per capita is very slightly/ignorable larger Other developments proves your per capita or generally GDP is fake and don't reflect situations on the ground, we beat you just like or even more than we do to Tanzania. In 2018 Nigeria's GDP per capita was $2000 your GDP grew by 1.9& while your population grew by 2.6%, how comes your per capita grew to $2200 So your real per capita income must be the same as that of Tanzania 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 12:04pm On Oct 28, 2019 |
rvp20182: You are not saying anything now other than tantrums...go and clear your debt, we don't want you becoming the Greece of Africa.. remember Africa is not Europe so they will be no one to support you financially 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 12:05pm On Oct 28, 2019 |
Stevoh18: What you just did from A-Z is speculations and tantrums..your uncertainty is vivid.... Hit me when you have reputable links to support the hogwash you wrote 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Goel: 12:11pm On Oct 28, 2019 |
AskiaHarem:LOL Will your denial will make any difference to my opinion or facts? My opinion won't indeed matter for 13 years old African nationalists. No African country (except far away Egypt) can dare to challenge RSA for a war. pacretus:In terms of technology. Aircrafts, shipbuilding, missiles, nuclear weapons & a lot. South Africa simply can't be compared to any other African country. It has made strides in nearly every sector. pacretus:Indians don't need comparison by South Africans to feel important either. Our giant is bigger than naija, RSA or even entire Africa combined in everything except natural resources. We know where we stand and our egos are shattered by west and our giant neighbor PRC only. And we don't have to make brainfarts either because of lot of practical demonstrations. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Stevoh18: 12:41pm On Oct 28, 2019 |
samorobo: "Kenya is ahead of Nigeria in all aspects, facts don't lie" ....the message has been well received 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 1:09pm On Oct 28, 2019 |
Kenya’s Twiga Foods has raised a total of $30 million from lenders and investors led by Goldman Sachs. The B2B food distribution company financed $6.25 million of the funding in convertible debt and $23.75 million in equity, classified as a Series B round. IFC, TLcom Capital, and Creadev joined Goldman on the VC side. Twiga will use the funds to set up a distribution center in Nairobi and deepen its conversion to offering supply chain services for both agricultural and FMCG products. The Nairobi based company will invest in expanding into more cities in Kenya, including Mombasa. Twiga is also targeting Pan-African expansion by third quarter 2020. “We’re working on French West Africa…we see significant opportunity in those markets,” Twiga CEO Peter Njonjo told TechCrunch. The company will name the new country (or countries) in the following year, he added. https://techcrunch.com/2019/10/28/kenyas-twiga-foods-eyes-west-africa-after-30m-raise-led-by-goldman/ 4 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 1:15pm On Oct 28, 2019 |
Kazikazi there's your cargo barge constructed by Kenya's SECO Engineering Limited -Hapa Kazi Tu- 5 Likes
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 1:36pm On Oct 28, 2019 |
Kenya power to reduce blackouts during maintenance to zero with live maintenance Already our power reliability was very good - it's going to get as good as developed nation.. https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2019-10-28-blackouts-during-maintenance-to-reduce-in-new-kenya-power-drive/ 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 1:39pm On Oct 28, 2019 |
Stevoh18: As expected you said nothing of Importance when faced with the irrefutable truth .if you had said anything other than this I would be surprised. The factless two sentence write up to made was highly anticipated..... |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 1:40pm On Oct 28, 2019 |
KaziKazi -- Have your say here. Right groups Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International have released two new reports warning about the shrinking space for freedom of expression" in Tanzania. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/10/rights-groups-accuse-tanzania-magufuli-rising-repression-191027101530996.html “The authorities are denying citizens their right to information by administering only those ‘truths’ sanctioned by the state.” |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Stevoh18: 2:00pm On Oct 28, 2019 |
samorobo: Your argument was lame and vague...., instead of giving what you know it's the correct information you just chose to ignorantly rubbish it Didn't your GDP expand by 1.9%? Didn't your population grow by 2.6% Was your GDP per capita $2000 last year. & miraculously jumped to $2200 this year 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 2:33pm On Oct 28, 2019 |
rvp20182: You have the patience of a saint! I gave up after the 10th time telling these geniuses the issue isn't the debt itself but the DEBT SERVICE RATIO,in this case 30%. But what to expect from those for whom the concept of per capita is still a mystery! At the same time our media as usual is being dishonest with misleading headlines. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 2:49pm On Oct 28, 2019 |
Stevoh18: Saying our GDP grew by 1.9% last year shows that this conversation is an absolute waste of time..... Bye boy 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 3:04pm On Oct 28, 2019 |
tylann: Liar. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 3:13pm On Oct 28, 2019 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 3:13pm On Oct 28, 2019 |
Problemkid1: Confirm. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 3:14pm On Oct 28, 2019 |
tylann: You lied. For your information, there is Ministry of Communication Tower. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AskiaHarem(m): 3:35pm On Oct 28, 2019 |
vaxx: I bet some of these guys where probably running successful businesses that got the wrong Ghanaians jealous and so they paid the price for it. Can't say the same for these guys...... 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Stevoh18: 3:43pm On Oct 28, 2019 |
Nigeria's middle class lifestyle 2 Likes
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Stevoh18: 4:00pm On Oct 28, 2019 |
One greatest city in Africa #Nairobi 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Stevoh18: 4:03pm On Oct 28, 2019 |
Central Kenya #Kiambu county 1 Like
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AskiaHarem(m): 4:09pm On Oct 28, 2019 |
Residential Housing Developments complete or in progress. Notice how I'm not spamming the same area/ district 1000 times 2 Likes 2 Shares
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