Mkenya2019:
Rwanda has probably the highest population density in Africa and yet is largely rural (80% rural). There are few countries as messed up as Nigeria where people abandon farms - and go to towns to hustle - or well immigrate thro the Sahara. Kenya urbanization is where it's supposed to be for it's level of development. Our urbanization is growing at 4% rate....so I expect we are about 30%....and possibly by 2030 when we become a middle class economy...we will be at 50% economy.

The reason why Ghana and Nigeria are economically sick - is because of unbridled urbanization...where millions live in shanties calling themselves urban areas...instead of farming.

You know China for example just got 50% urbanization recently?

so all the 80% of Kenyans who live in the villages and as you claim farming, what do they produce?

Just the 3 million Ghanaians who live in rural areas just produce more than what the 30 million Kenyans produce

tylann:


good for you

kenya leads africa africa in producing more than one crop
so there is no competition there

DELUSION!!!!!!

Jonraid:
Upperhill! Is not yet the finished article,it is still under construction!

Honestly you should ashamed to show me this roads...Chinese are known for fake things as well as quality things but I can bet my last finger their wickedness can be this much to give to this kind of ugly weak, colourless roads....that road will barely last 7 years...

vaxx1:
Do you know a barrel of palm oil is more valuable than crude oil? imagine we are pumping on global demand ....

good for you

we are improving our agricultural sector

tylann:


we were not comparing our agricultural sector

facts are they for everyone to see


i asked you what makes nigeria more developed than kenya

cos i know Nigeria is developed than Kenya... dazall.

that kind of urbanization is why we are richer than you
more develop than you.

Mkenya2019:
Yes that kind of urbanization I don't think anybody desires except in Ghana and Nigeria.

The stats lie.The researchers hate Nigeria!

tylann:
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Maybe you should stop taunting others.Here you go! These thread has massively exposed Nigerians You are not any better!

Rich people have toilets. https://www.pulse.com.gh/news/local/only-40-of-kumasi-residents-have-toilets-kma/bwxksb8

Just30:
that kind of urbanization is why we are richer than you
more develop than you.

theenchanter:
cos i know Nigeria is developed than Kenya... dazall.

you know and you cant provide facts

tylann:


all those roads have been repaired you are posting 2013 pics

and upperhill is not our cbd

Hahahaha see how he is rejecting CBD....I thought you guys mostly jonraid was shouting "Westland and upperhill the battle of skyscraper for a between two CBD"

Lol stop disgracing your self, learn to lie with sense...was britam available in 2013...


Anyway watch my YouTube video and see where I got the screenshot from(all my recent screenshot of your cbd are less than 2 months old) ....By the way you can check to confirm how old this video is which is just 4 week...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gxAg7uu22w

Jonraid:
The stats lie.The researchers hate Nigeria!

usual excuse

that is the kind of urbanization they have
they talk as if they european or american type urbanization

So Nigeria doesn't give projects to the Chinese?

samorobo:



Honestly you should ashamed to show me this roads...Chinese are known for fake things as well as quality things but I can bet my last finger their wickedness can be this much to give to this kind of ugly weak, colourless roads....that road will barely last 7 years...

tylann:


samorobo this are the new upperhill roads

stop posting old pics to prove nothing

What I provided is current YouTube screenshoted image

It's obvious this kind of stuff is really BEYOND your paygrade. I did not ask for ECG's ASSETS VALUE. I asked for a COMPANY VALUATION BY KPMG.

Yes you have may have 3B dollars worth of assets - but did you check the liabilities you have. The reason why in 2014 ECG was being concessioned away to Filipinos's (Manila Electricity Company) was because it was technical in the red. The US were even willing to give you 450M dollars AID.

A company cannot be valued by looking at it's assets alone You need to look at it's liabilities. And whatever remains is Equity or Capital.

Basic accounting equation Assets - Liabilities = (Shareholders' or Owners' Equity) .

The EQUITY IS WHAT YOULL SELL WHEN YOU LIST. And I am telling you for FREE - ECG has made losses every year bar 2016 - the last 5yrs - has lots of debts - and would be luckly to be valued at 5M dollars.

As for SGR - we had expected a slow start like any business- as SGR dealt with the teething problem. You know we began building the railway in 2014 and by 2017 were transporting millions of customers.And because we had expected slow start - we got 5yr grace period for commercial loan - and 10yrs grace period for the concessionary loan.

Now FACT 1) CARGO as of June 2019 - was at about double the rate of 2018 2) Cargo tarrifi is about double - so even at half year - SGR has earned double last year.

There is a REASON WHY GHANA HAS HAD 16 IMF BAILOUTS while Kenya has barely had any IMF BAILOUT. Countries that have received IMF bailout include likes of Tanzania, Zambia and such backwater countries.

Just30:
https://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/business/PDS-deal-cancellation-was-to-protect-3-billion-ECG-assets-Ofori-Atta-794920

suck on it


SGR even had to run a 50% discount and still couldnt attract the traffic it require to be able to break even

The video says under construction!

samorobo:




Hahahaha see how he is rejecting CBD....I thought you guys mostly jonraid was shouting "Westland and upperhill the battle of skyscraper for a between two CBD"

Lol stop disgracing your self, learn to lie with sense...was britam available in 2013...


Anyway watch my YouTube video and see where I got the screenshot from(all my recent screenshot of your cbd are less than 2 months old) ....By the way you can check to confirm how old this video is which is just 4 week...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gxAg7uu22w

Jonraid:
So Nigeria doesn't give projects to the Chinese?

China can never ever build you that kind of road even if they choose to wicked you with that sub standard habit....

Which begs the question, who constructed that road for you?...such person is indeed very wicked

vaxx1:
I don't want to be brute on you. just stop your incoherent understanding. and keep doing what you like without mentioning anybody...

You re really an igbo. I have discover that in you
... so why dont you post your region and let's all enjoy

I do not know why everybody says I behave like an Igbo but I have never been to the east or nobody in my family is Igbo. All my life I have stayed in southwest Nigeria and was brought up in southwest Nigeria on my father's land as I became five years old I left Nigeria for greener pasture. I am not going to start a fight with the Ghanaians because I have a lot of respect for Ghanaians and Ghana their secondary school which I attended 6 of our teachers ware Ghanaians and this was in a southern African country my agriculture and physics teachers. I have nothing to say against the Ghana but sometimes the truth must be said to my Nigerian people

a deal that was done before the kenyan populace got to hear of it and even went to court and lost

Jonraid:
Shifting goalposts from those farms being owned by Qataris and now Kenyatta selling land to them.The deal with the Qatar government never sailed true! They own zero farms.

tylann:


you know and you cant provide facts

which fact have u provided?

Jonraid:
Proof?

And we're 47m people,officially!

proof what?

pick both countries budgets

samorobo:



Oh I see you've added to this...It is obvious you are already spelling doom to them and as well revealing you hidden jealousy for a country that is better than you in all aspects....you are already on the path to start this SA vs Kenya....

You are jealous and hateful pieces of skunk head goat that feels Kenya us entitled more to progress than any other African country since she never had resources and suffered in the 90's whilst every other resource rich African countries were in a serious boom ....You should focus on your debt ridden fake economy that will definitely crumble before we hit 2026..

Why does this citizen of poverty keep on crying South Africa? Nighas, keep it together and fight your battles.

You gave out a 12 billion dollar figure,bring that proof!

Just30:
proof what?

pick both countries budgets

Jonraid:
Kenya making GHANA and NIGERIA come together.How cute! Might as well add Tanzania into the mix!

but who said Ghana and Nigeria were never together ?

we encouraged you for you to show your ignorance
Nigeria and Ghana go at each other anytime any day online.

What do 50% of Ghanians who live in urban areas produce - informal economy? The 70% of kenyans living in rural areas at least produce their own food for starters. You don't see millions of them going to beg in NIgeria and all over the world.

Just30:


so all the 80% of Kenyans who live in the villages and as you claim farming, what do they produce?

Just the 3 million Ghanaians who live in rural areas just produce more than what the 30 million Kenyans produce

Of which you can't proof that it happened ?

Just30:
a deal that was done before the kenyan populace got to hear of it and even went to court and lost

Jonraid:
Does Ghana collect 12 billion dollars in tax revenues? I quickly accept facts!

yes and it is facts

kikuyu2:


I've said it before and I'll repeat: RSA looks good in SSA. In the real world among even 2nd world nations like Brazil, Mexico or Thailand it's indices; GDP per capita, longevity etc, etc are typically African.
Also RSA had an earlier headstart in manufacturing and hi tech industries; check out their arms industry, and should be doing better.
If you're capable look at the WB Human Capacity Index to see their educational outcome. They outspend us like 2.5x yet their keeping company with you at the bottom of the educational assessment table.
If our growth continues and RSA continues to stagnate I'll happily start a new thread in 2030 discussing them.

u've said such about Ghana before..... i guess leopards don't change their spot.

samorobo:




Hahahaha see how he is rejecting CBD....I thought you guys mostly jonraid was shouting "Westland and upperhill the battle of skyscraper for a between two CBD"

Lol stop disgracing your self, learn to lie with sense...was britam available in 2013...


Anyway watch my YouTube video and see where I got the screenshot from(all my recent screenshot of your cbd are less than 2 months old) ....By the way you can check to confirm how old this video is which is just 4 week...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gxAg7uu22w

upperhill and westlands are upcoming cbds they are not the official cbds
google nairobi cbd see for yourself

those are old pics roads are underconstruction in upperhill

and good lord no bad road in upperhill looks bad as this apapa road below

The paradox of 50% Urbanization with a primitive non formalized retail economy!

Mkenya2019:
What do 50% of Ghanians who live in urban areas produce - informal economy? The 70% of kenyans living in rural areas at least produce their own food for starters.

Links and references?

Just30:
yes and it is facts

theenchanter:
which fact have u provided?

hdi

Sufferinsmiliin is coming with more pics!

tylann:

upperhill and westlands are upcoming cbds they are not the official cbds
google nairobi cbd see for yourself

those are old pics roads are underconstruction in upperhill

and good lord no bad road in upperhill looks bad as this apapa road below