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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 10:54pm On May 24, 2017 |
Hbuyosh: Kenyans and Indians are more united religiously than Nigeria having an overwhelming Hindu/christian majority. Both countries only have ethnic issues to battle with. Do you know how many lives have been lost in Nigeria due to religious clashes? People play evil politics of religion in Nigeria at the detriment of the welfare of their people just because they want their religion to dominate the country. At least 30% of Nigerians are muslim fanatics and most of them are illiterates. What progress do you really expect from such people?? Why won't our HDI be lower when a part of the country always drag it down? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 10:57pm On May 24, 2017 |
Hbuyosh: Nowenuse: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:58pm On May 24, 2017 |
ababda: So the dancing guys were the more opulent ones. Good to know you are promoting tourism, Sudan has been a pariah for quite long. English would be one way of doing that. Are those pyramids archaeologically studied? Good to see parks too. If I ask, how comes Bashir has stayed in power that long? Is it via democracy or does he belong to a ruling class mafia! |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:00pm On May 24, 2017 |
[quote author=forgiveness post=56847981][/quote] Are you okay? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 11:02pm On May 24, 2017 |
vaxx: If you guys take the HDI of Southern Nigeria alone, do you think Ghana or Kenya will come any close? Nigeria is too complex. This is the reason why many Southern Nigerians are fighting for the division, seccesion and restructuring of Nigeria. Imagine if Ghana was one country with Burkina faso and Mali. Or Kenya was one country with Somalia and Sudan. Do you think you guys would have progressed as you have now?? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:05pm On May 24, 2017 |
Nowenuse: I thought there was a time you guys were doing well? And it was still one big Nigeria |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Isahalbash(m): 11:06pm On May 24, 2017 |
Nowenuse: I didn't come to Lagos, I was born here. To be frank, it's impossible for now cos schools in d rural areas and some small urban areas have quack teachers with empty head. U will see students' from snr sec schools dat r supposed to be in pry 4 coz dey know notin. How can a blind man lead anoda blind man to d river? I know most people in my town are schooling especially d ladies, daz y d place node sweet cox girls scarce I swear There was a day my nephew texted my elder bro, if u see d msg, u go plank d idiot head. I tink d boarding schools r beta dere( I can't attend sha), because of people from different background and d govt wud employed qualified tchas. Those dat attend private skuls r beta even here in Lagos maybe because of dere low population, but dere problem is " exam malpractice" during WAEC. If qualified teachers can be employed, I tink those from d rural areas could Mk progress, hence, reduce illiteracy rates. Its obvious, people frm d rural areas constitute d highest number of illiterates in any society. Tank God d young people from my part of d State, have passion for western education. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iamord(m): 11:08pm On May 24, 2017 |
Nowenuse:ghana has practically every resource nigeria has so its strong enough to stand o its weight if corruption is reduced and proper policies are being implemented |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 11:08pm On May 24, 2017 |
TayserMahiri: Yes, that was because we had independent regions where everyone controlled his rescources. We were not competing with each other for Central control of rescources. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by freshest4live: 11:08pm On May 24, 2017 |
Nowenuse:Yeah l was about making this point all the time but kicked against it cos they would never understand. While we know about jos and kano(Dangote's birth place), l do not know how progressive the rest of the north is. Sharia law there might be a problem and they multiply our population at a faster rate. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:10pm On May 24, 2017 |
freshest4live: by your slums i meant slums all over the world your friends have their own opinion , i cant comment on that , i was in US , i found many places there dirty too. no great deal the fact is, u will find shiitt if ur looking for shhitt Indians working in Kenya will always praise Kenya , that is a basic rule to be followed by a well mannered guest in a host country. if u guys r looking to compare countries best way to do is by comparing 1. education standards and facilities 2. manufacturing capabilities and facilities 3. scientific and engineering R & D 4. military capabilities and assets 5. space related capabilities and achievements 6. transportation/logistics assets, infrastructure and capabilities 7. power generation and related manufacturing capabilities 8. ship building capabilities and infrastructure 9. aviation related capabilities and infrastructure 10. agriculture related capabilities and infrastructure etc based on official sources like UN data , internationally reputed analysis and ratings bodies etc not blogs, small time news/electronic media and youtube videos posting pics of high rise buildings is not a yard stick to compare countries , including hearsay like "my friend told me this" etc dont mind me i was just browsing through and having a good time in general, its fun 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:11pm On May 24, 2017 |
iamord: I have never heard the word corruption and Ghana in the same sentence! |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:12pm On May 24, 2017 |
Nowenuse: Am lost! |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:16pm On May 24, 2017 |
freshest4live: If only you knew the pains we have gone to to keep radical Islam in check!! We've had to kill a few of those terrible Sheikhs for the better good. Its not like we had it on a silver platter! Having roughly the entire eastern half of kenya being Muslim and neigbouring Somalia is no joke. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 11:16pm On May 24, 2017 |
TayserMahiri: The fact that you like some of his attributes means, you know there is God but you don't know how to believe him. You are not different from those who worship him but doesn't believe in Him. To believe in God is very easy if you know how to believe. I have seen the protrusion, that makes it 26 floors. And if we count the dome then it's 27 floors and the three basement, it's 30 floors. How do I know? See the snapshots below. The first snapshot indicated the total floors as 30 floors and 126m as the height. Meaning, they measure from the basement to the dome to arrive at 126m. The second snapshot broke down every floors according to their uses. That is why most sites don't include the dome and the basements to arrive at 26 floors and also reduced the height to 98m. This is what I have been trying to say all along.
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Hbuyosh(m): 11:18pm On May 24, 2017 |
Nowenuse: We understand that. Nigeria over the years has been bedevilled by problems that have hampered its development prospects. Religious tensions are so uncommon here. But Kenyans are not that very united though, I kid u not. We know that tribalism is rife in Nigeria, but in Kenya it is toxic, u can imagine to the extent of causing a fotum site like this one having to shut down cos the very divisive messages posted therein. If there was a way to metricize national cohesion, Kenya would surely featuer at the very bottom of the table. In Kenya, as it is the case in Nigeria the southern part of the country is better progressed than the Nothern regions, was it to be excised from the rest of Kenya.....well, they dragging us down in the every development rankings. But is it not their fault entirely. Our previous govts marginalized them for sone reasons. However, with the new constitutional dispensation guaranteeing development to the grassroots, things are opening up in those regions. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 11:18pm On May 24, 2017 |
TayserMahiri: Of course you'd be lost. Sometimes you non Nigerians just drag Nigeria into some comparisons without understanding anything about our history. Nigeria was never one country. The British amalgamated 2 different independent protectorates as one. And even after the amalgamation, we operated regionalism in Nigeria where every region controlled it's own rescources, had it's own idependent body of legislation and developed it's people independently.... Then, the central govt was very weak and meant mainly for a united armed force and international relationship, nothing else. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 11:21pm On May 24, 2017 |
freshest4live: Well, you have to learn better about the north. Cos, you cannot analyze the problems of your country rationally unless you know your country very well. Are you a graduate? If yes, didn't you go for NYSC in the north? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Hbuyosh(m): 11:22pm On May 24, 2017 |
TayserMahiri:Yes, our economy has been raving at 6% annual growth, since 2010. We are good, though not yet up there. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 11:25pm On May 24, 2017 |
TayserMahiri: You can imagine? You guys can even kill muslim sheiks and go free. If Southern Nigerians try such a thing, the kind of war that will ensue Nigeria will send millions of Nigerian refugees all over the world. What do you think caused the Nigerian civil war where over 3 million people died in 1967-1970? You really don't know what it is for a country to be 50/50 divided btw Islam and another religion (especially when the muslims are fanatics). Better go and ask the Lebanese and people of Old India (before division of India), or better still old Sudan. Old united Sudan and India did not live to tell the tale. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by freshest4live: 11:30pm On May 24, 2017 |
nemesis2u:OK fair enough. Are you Indian? I like the way you guys spin your head while talking. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by freshest4live: 11:31pm On May 24, 2017 |
Nowenuse:Yes l am a graduate, and nope not the north but the south east Anambra. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 11:34pm On May 24, 2017 |
Hbuyosh: Before judging about which country has worse tribalism btw Nigeria & Kenya, you have to first ask, how many people have died in Kenya compared to Nigeria on issues of tribal conflicts. Nigerians die almost daily due to tribal conflicts. It is easier for Kenya to tag the underdeveloped north along better than Nigeria because the muslim northerners are fewer in population and do not dominate politically in Kenya. In Nigeria, it is vice versa. The muslim northerners dominate politically and may even outnumber or equal the christian Southerners in population. I hope you can now see the huge difference?! |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:36pm On May 24, 2017 |
forgiveness: Nuh, dude, I also love attributes of other gods and goddesses like Ra, Shiva and Vishnu! Don't confuse that with believing. I am by definition an atheist. Same way I love some socialist values but I am capitalist at heart cos I know its the best means of wealth creation! On this Le'mac thing, whatever rows your boat man. I can only ask you one final question, is your final answer 98 M or 126 M? This should tell me a lot about your power of judgement. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Isahalbash(m): 11:42pm On May 24, 2017 |
Nowenuse: I tink we hv buzus in Nigeria but I don't know wich state they are from. There are indigenous Zarma in Nigeria from kebbi state. d buzus r mostly from nijer nd Mali, they look slim wit very curly hair and dey r mostly black( d ones I see here though), but I tink those tuareg r light skin buzus( nt too sure). They have pretty ladies similar to d Somalis but not dat light. All d Zarmas I knw speak dere language very well no matter where de r born. Yap, sometimes de bcum easily target but those dat mix r vulnerable to more attacks. Like during d 1998 crises in Lagos after d demise of MKO Abiola, those that r killed r mostly Nijerians living outside d Hausa dominated areas even d ife crises those dat r mostly killed r d ones outside sabo. If u luk at d pix, u wud see dat some r killed in dere shops, hawking, selling foodstuff in wheelbarrow. It is good to mix wit odas but when u hv bad neighbours' it's a suicidal. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 11:44pm On May 24, 2017 |
Nowenuse:i will not be able to talk on kenya . But i will with ghana . Let do the analyse southern nigeria will consist of both 6 yoruba state , 5 igbo land 5 niger delta including akwa ibom and cross river while greater accra ,central region ,ashanti region and brongh ahafo region will be consider southern assuming ghana run a federal system. This region will still out perform nigeria southern state becuse it host most of ghana development. Why nigeria major development spread across the south ,north central and middle belt. Ghana too has a northern part ,upper east ,and upper west which i will say contribute to her lower ranking in HDI. This regions suffer major set back. There is community crisis ,riot and a national domestic violence where widows are camp as a witch in (Gambaga).infact nigeria north is far develop than ghana north. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:44pm On May 24, 2017 |
Nowenuse: So you simply took two distinct regions and divided them further later on? That was bad calculations |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:45pm On May 24, 2017 |
Hbuyosh: I hope the rail adds another 1.5 % as forecasted 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:47pm On May 24, 2017 |
Nowenuse: You use hit men! The state is not involved in any way |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ababda: 11:49pm On May 24, 2017 |
TayserMahiri: Are those pyramids archaeologically studied? Yes, it was studied by George Reisner over 100 years ago, and continued to be studied by Archaeology by local and international, they have many blogs about this stuff in twitter among others. https://books.google.com/books?id=O2NFAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA67&lpg=PA67&dq=George+reisner+excavation+of+nuri&source=bl&ots=elliCXjziz&sig=YV7iBX8xSw84uSJYbT7Sgd_s65A&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi56drCzYnUAhXFy1QKHUmGAI84ChDoAQgtMAM#v=onepage&q=George%20reisner%20excavation%20of%20nuri&f=false Here is the link above. If I ask, how comes Bashir has stayed in power that long?Blind followers and ring elections and fraud, also the opposition is two weak and old, and people don't trust nor believe in the opposition. Is it via democracy or does he belong to a ruling class mafia! They say it is a democracy since we hold election, but the reality is your second comment. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:52pm On May 24, 2017 |
freshest4live: does it matter ? a good man is a good man in his own right/deeds a bad man is a bad man in his own right/deeds a knowledgeable man is a knowledgeable man in his own right/capabilities a ignorant man is a ignorant man in his own right/capabilities etc etc everything boils down to the individual nationality is just the means to an end anyways spinning the head is impossible as far as i know best i can do is rotate my head 20-30 degrees either side though i will keep a look out for any Indians with spinning heads , it will be not hard to miss them |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by freshest4live: 11:53pm On May 24, 2017 |
TayserMahiri:Lol, the problem is that in the case of Nigeria the British gave this people power, they dominate the military, how many can you kill? The Hausas are a major ethnic group in Nigeria,like the Yoruba's and Igbo's, all three are majority. Many of us seek restructuring, some seek secession. It's so bad that Islamic nations now invite Nigeria for islamic sports and many believe we are an Islamic nation not secular. 2 Likes |
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