Swiss is an ideal democracy because people vote on almost everything; public sector is also good if not better than private sector;

kikuyu1:


INTERESTING fact! Guess the last country to give women 100% universal suffrage?


[url][https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.euronews.com/amp/2021/02/06/switzerland-marks-only-50-years-of-women-voting-and-ponders-gender-gap-todayurl]

In fact some cantons resisted Globo Homo demands til the 90s!



Smth to think ABOUT! Deafening bleating from the MSM, associated think tanks and their water carriers proclaims until and unless EVERY girlchild is politically involved nation stagnates: REALLY!?

Political economics - the realm that deals with political systems (democracy) and economic systems (capitalism). Ideally capitalism is closer to economics (market economics) hence very successfully in creating wealth- and communism is really politics (equality) - popular but a colossal failure economically -and socialism is an attempt to marry the two.

Just40:
in this day and age, as grown up as you are

You dont know the difference between political and government.

This is crazy


Everything in this world is political

The church you attend, religion you belong to, the sexual orientation you choose, even the cloth you are wearing right now is political.

I hope when you're done measuring horizontal built up area - you'll also start the vertical built up area.

Austine1212:


Lets stick to Nairobi

How much of it is built and urban?

Lets get to the 22000km², how much of it is built?

rvp2018:
I hope when you're done measuring horizontal built up area - you'll also start the vertical built up area.

Will you answer my questions?

“The 2.2km Oweto-Loko bridge that will help reduce travel time from the East to Abuja by 6 hours and support the flow of farm produce from the North to the South has been completed.”

Austine1212:


Lets stick to facts or references

New York 777km² is pure urban
Kigali 650km² is 90% rural

How much of Nairobi city is build up, how much of it is urban?

I think we're now on the same page. I'm glad you came to your senses.

So what was the point on your previous post? Cos you brought up 4 cities: Kigali ; Pretoria; Accra and Nairobi. And What I presumed about it is that you wanted to bring down Nairobi going by the geographical land size but after I've opened your mind, here you are with a sane logic which states that Kigali's 650km² is pure village! nice .. You got it bro, congratulations

Austine1212:


Lets stick to Nairobi

How much of it is built and urban?

Lets get to the 22000km², how much of it is built?

Start with Accra, then go to Lagos , then go down to Kigali (which you have already concluded that her 650km² city is pure village) Then you can come to Nairobi cos that was your number last on the list.

@Austine1212, tackle the above then hit on me once you're done, I will give you my time time.

rvp2018:
I hope when you're done measuring horizontal built up area - you'll also start the vertical built up area.

Exactly .. Cos slums, shacks, shanties also make build up area.

rvp2018:
That is communism. Both socialisms and communism are equalitarian in objective. But they are not the same. Social states allows private sector to thrive and then taxes it - like Norway - 50% - and use the money to provide social services to everyone. Therefore the public sector and Private sector are nearly equal -50-50.

Communism - criminalize wealth in private hands, nationalize everything, all companies are publicly, and name it. It therefore breeds laziness, envy and poverty. And therefore can only survive in dictatorship.

Many example in Africa - use to do that - Ghana, Tanzania and Ethiopia.

BUT there is no doubt that Capitalism is the best - and has eliminate poverty than any other system.

Son,you don't know what u talk about.
Tanzania was a socialist state and is probably still that way today.

There was no time in TZ where the gov owned everything, or every company. But we had a time when a gov owned too many stuff but not all stuff.
Don't talk stuff like a madman.do a research before opening yir kibera mouth.
By the way,how is slum life?
Pwapwapwapwapwa pwapwapwapwapwa

leQubit:


Nice one but bro where is the Mosque ? ..i need to see that landmark...you cant post Abuja without that mosque man..

Abuja is too big man. Far bigger than Nairobi. Development in Abuja is not just in place. But scattered all round the city. But if you want to see the mosque, here you have it

kikuyu1:


AARRGHH,NIGGA!? We long ago established that like everything in Naij Abuja is fake; a Potemkin village!

The Incident Of Low Occupancy Rate For Residential Properties In Nigeria. A Case Study Of Abuja-Nigeria Federal Capital Territory

[url][https://ideas.repec.org/p/afr/wpaper/afres2016_110.htmlurl]

The most meaningful takeaway.

It was discovered that the majority of the residential properties developed, were not with financial assistance from financial institutions. They were purely private equities of politicians and businessmen who only want to consolidate their assets in physical structures but not for profit


Iow, money laundering, plain and simple!

The way they screech about Abuja you'd think it were Dubai, Singapore or Boston at the very least: as always reality in Naij is truly and truly ishytty!

Abuja suburb where open defecation is culture

[url][m.guardian.ng/news/abuja-suburb-where-open-defecation-is-culture/url]

Mrs. Edwin, popularly called Mama Favour said open defecation has become a normal sight in Tungan Wakili because most of the houses do not have toilets


Thats the CBD,UUURRGHHH!?

The practice is more prevalent in north-central states, including Abuja, the capital.


[url][https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.voanews.com/africa/nigerian-authorities-launch-campaign-against-open-defecation%3fampurl]

A typical Abuja toilet.

Five notorious spots where people defecate openly in Abuja


[url][https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/283933-five-notorious-spots-where-people-defecate-openly-in-abuja.htmlurl]

Gwarimpa express is a stop away from Kubwa express when coming from Wuse. “Driver, stop me at Gwarimpa express”, a passenger who wants to alight at this bus stop would say. Before this stop is a long pedestrian bridge that connects other parts of the popular Gwarimpa estate and that is why the stop is known as Gwarimpa express.
There is a big gutter on the right side of the road and many have turned it into a safe spot for convenience. You can see piles of faeces while passing or waiting for a commercial vehicle at the bus stop


[url]https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/283933-five-notorious-spots-where-people-defecate-openly-in-abuja.html/url]

I. CAN'T. ANYMORE

But while we struggle with temporary flood induced water supply issues in Nairobi there's no water in Abuja anyway . Somehow the planners ignored or someone neglected this.

There is no water in Abuja,” Chinyere, a resident, laments. “There is no light (electricity) but more importantly there is no water and this makes life hard

[url][https://pulitzercenter.org/reporting/nigerias-population-boom-poor-planning-skew-water-deliveryurl]

Ruth Samuel and her four children live here in an uphill settlement on the outskirts of Abuja.

But every day, they struggle for water, sometimes spending many hours scooping water from a ground spring

[url][www.voanews.com/africa/millions-nigeria-lack-access-clean-waterurl]

How Zokutu, Abuja residents get water.

The only source of water in the community is a cave, located about half a mile from the residential area. The water in the cave, which is 6 feet below ground level, is used for bathing, laundry, cooking, and drinking — without any form of purification. The level of development in Zokutu is next to nothing, as is reflected in the poor road networks, mud houses, and limited telecommunication access.


[url][https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/water-poverty-distress-in-nigerian-communities/url]

I like to bring receipts. In THE name of God never mention this effed up place ever again.

Gerrout old fool. I don't talk to mad man!!

rvp2018:
Political economics - the realm that deals with political systems (democracy) and economic systems (capitalism). Ideally capitalism is closer to economics (market economics) hence very successfully in creating wealth- and communism is really politics (equality) - popular but a colossal failure economically -and socialism is an attempt to marry the two.

I wonder what you wanted to achieve here.

Anyway, since you made some of my points for me, I'll pass.

Just40:
No country is pure capitalist today, even the IS is not.
Neither is any country practising socialism except Venezuela,purely.

true

leQubit:

Yet we call it Comunist China..

No we dont....

leQubit:

I will disagree with the bolded...inequality in your country is as a result of extreme capitalism which in a way is controlled by minority white..

It literally isn't......failing SOEs, corruption, populist policies are the reason for inequality

Roan77:


Socialism better than the both.

Socialism is nearly as bad as communism......

leQubit:

The 1% will always favor capitalism over others..they say it's for hard working folks but it's just a way exploiting the rest

Tell me why capitalist countries are more equal than socialist countries?? not just are they more equal but citizens are several times more wealthy to.

jln115:
Tell me why capitalist countries are more equal than socialist countries?? not just are they more equal but citizens are several times more wealthy to.

They are not. A good example is Canada and the US.

gallivant:


They are not. A good example is Canada and the US.

In general capitalist countries are more equal......the most unequal countries in the world like SA are more socialist.

leQubit:

The 1% will always favor capitalism over others..they say it's for hard working folks but it's just a way exploiting the rest

I agree with you, hence why I said socialism is better than both capitalism and communism.

jln115:
In general capitalist countries are more equal......the most unequal countries in the world like SA are more socialist.

I disagree with the bolded.

Socialism is a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
But that's not the case in SA.

What your gov propaganda choose to call it is not what it really was. Yours was communism..the worst kind..like China and North Korea. Kenya practised capitalism but baptized it Africa Socialism. USSR was a communist state that call itself social state. North Korea call it's self the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea...yet we know it's hardly democratic or people centered.

Kazikazi:
Son,you don't know what u talk about.
Tanzania was a socialist state and is probably still that way today.

There was no time in TZ where the gov owned everything, or every company. But we had a time when a gov owned too many stuff but not all stuff.
Don't talk stuff like a madman.do a research before opening yir kibera mouth.
By the way,how is slum life?
Pwapwapwapwapwa pwapwapwapwapwa

South Africa under ANC is socialist state or attempting to become one - although the private sector is still way bigger than the public sector. Under the Boer National Party - it was a racist capitalist minority gov - where all the wealth and means of wealth was concentrated on few hands - and public sector starved of funds for schools, hospitals and name it for the majority black. Never mind that all the wealth really came from mines - which should be handled communally - either heavily taxed or even nationalized. South Africa decided to give all the natural wealth to whites - if you look at Norway, Saudi Arabias, Libya (under Gaddaffi), UAE, and most of Arab state...they have done better in sharing the natural wealth. Botswana has also done way better than South Africa....where all natural wealth of the country are held by tiny Jewish- British cabal - yet clearly there is no so much one can innovate or benefits from market economy or capitalism in such a sector. It's either the minerals are there or not. Economies therefore dependant on natural resources - really ought to be socaliast or even communist. Otherwise it immoral to let one guy take all the money from the mine or oil well just because he owns it. It's not like he created the minerals like it's an Iphone or Tesla.

jln115:
It literally isn't......failing SOEs, corruption, populist policies are the reason for inequality

rvp2018:
South Africa under ANC is socialist state or attempting to become one - although the private sector is still way bigger than the public sector. Under the Boer National Party - it was a racist capitalist minority gov - where all the wealth and means of wealth was concentrated on few hands - and public sector starved of funds for schools, hospitals and name it for the majority black. Never mind that all the wealth really came from mines - which should be handled communally - either heavily taxed or even nationalized. South Africa decided to give all the natural wealth to whites - if you look at Norway, Saudi Arabias, Libya (under Gaddaffi), UAE, and most of Arab state...they have done better in sharing the natural wealth. Botswana has also done way better than South Africa....where all natural wealth of the country are held by tiny Jewish- British cabal - yet clearly there is no so much one can innovate or benefits from market economy or capitalism in such a sector. It's either the minerals are there or not. Economies therefore dependant on natural resources - really ought to be socaliast or even communist. Otherwise it immoral to let one guy take all the money from the mine or oil well just because he owns it. It's not like he created the minerals like it's an Iphone or Tesla.

South Africa was never a capatilist state, even under apartheid South Africa would still be considered a more socialist state however social services were focused on white minority only

As for Botswana.... Well Botswana is one of the most unequal countries in the world, just below South Africa and even economically speaking Botswana doesn't fair much better per capita wise even though it has a tiny population.

The worst thing you could ever do in a country is nationalisation, nationalisation is the first ticket to economic ruin.

Fact is capitalist countries in general are not just more wealthy but more equal to.... Even poverty figures are less in capitalist countries than socialist countries.

Roan77:


I disagree with the bolded.

Socialism is a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
But that's not the case in SA.

I know what socialism is.... And although not a pure socialist country, South Africa certainly falls in the democratic socialism category.