Mkenya2019:
Pure nut case. Kenya is top 10 in global good. Kenya has always been well known. Not only as only UN HQ in the global south, as the Oasis of peace in war torn Africa, as one most progressive countries, Nairobi is now literally the HQ of Africa - competing with Joburg.

As for Nigeria - you're known as corrupt enclave that generates thugs and drug dealers. You probably the most infamous country on planet earth.

Kenya rise is not "new" thing..Nigeria and Ghana recently emerged from 40yrs of military dictatorship - and rejoined civilized nations. Both countries became democratic - 2002 - 20yrs ago

South Africa did well under Mandela - from pariah state - they expanded regionally - and became a force to reckon with - and post-Zuma they are going down.

As for Nigeria - apart from Goodluck and Obasanjo - your Buhari and your former military leaders are butt of jokes.

Mr, Clown, are you okay up there ??

GeneralDae:

Exactly. Rwanda for instance seem to be more about Kigali just the way Kenya is very focused on Nairobi but in SA there are many cities with good urban development. You even have 3 capitals. In Nigeria, there have always been Lagos and Abuja, but Kaduna is developing even more rapidly than Abuja at the moment, road construction and flyovers in PortHarcourt has been the norm for the past 4 years. Uyo and Calabar are industrializing rapidly as well as Borno state which was bedeviled by the BokoHaram crises. We are not even talking about Lagos with the light rails and projects going on.

However, with all of these we know Nigeria should be doing much more but its' funny to see how the Kenyans brag about even lesser things like mere road construction in a tiny part of the capital as the face of development in Africa

Nairobi is the size of Pretoria in south Africa, with Pretoria having better infrastructure.

Kenyans who have visited SA keeps on says that but some nobody in a forum wanna argue. A kenyan recently while in Ekurhuleni was saying she's never seen so many roads in her life, not in Joburg metro.

Disingenuous as always. How does South Africa VW Group (German) company become France and Rwanda.

France and Rwanda do not see eye to eye. Belgians are not even allowed to enter Rwanda. Kagame still blame them for genocide.

As for South Africa - previously you were the big boys - but you're going down.

Nairobi is beating Joburg - and Kenya is slowly expanding beyond east africa to new terrorities.

Once we conquer DRC (and we are on course - 2nd biggest bank is now Equity) - and Ethiopia (Safaricom) - those two countries are nearly 200M.

We shall be on top of Africa...because EAC+DRC+ETH - will give us a 350M sphere of influence.

AfriqueDuZuid:


Clearly you are fooled by KAGAME stunts.

Business retreat when environment is not favorable, that's nature of business.

Geapolitics are complex, have you heard anyone speak to Kenya regarding Africa matters? No

It's always SA, everyone knows it, its only kenyan hard heads who thinks others wise.

From when you kicked Kwame in 1965 - you descended into military dictatorship - that ended in 2002. That is how many year - half 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s - you were under military rule.

You missed a lot in the civilized world.

vankelvin:


Mr, Clown, are you okay up there ??

vankelvin:
Hello House, your Slave @Popzero has finally posted the pictures he claim to have of me from Facebook

This is the so called *Expose~* the slave has been ranting about all these while.
Ahhh I said it.
This low life is in deep pains.

Just as the other day when I was told they've found my tweeter account and they posted pictures of one guy by name @VanKelvin on Tweeter, today the slave has also posted pictures of a certain guy called @Kelvin Tebi [/b]claiming it's me

@Popzero, onye wai, buulu buulu..
[b]You are a slave and an animal

I cannot understand the reason taking the fight from nairaland to Facebook and Twitter how interesting

Mkenya2019:
Kenya companies are divesting from your country - we got bigger fish to fry in Congo and Ethiopia. Who wants to deal with your small minded pettiness year in year out. INVESTORS WANTS PREDICTABILITY.

We just gave Ethiopia it largest ever investment - whopping 1B dollars - 850M in license fee alone - and we are going to put 2B dollars in the next 2yrs.

The winning consortium composed of Kenya's Safaricom (SCOM.NR), Japan's Sumitomo (8053.T) and Britain's Vodafone (VOD.L) paid $850 million. A bid from South Africa's MTN (MTNJ.J) was rejected as too low.

Announcing the award of the licence, Abiy welcomed the more than $8 billion total investment, saying on Twitter: "... this will be the single largest FDI into Ethiopia to date. Our desire to take Ethiopia fully digital is on track."

LOL funny how you exclude vodacom, it's a consortium.

What you fail to understand is two south african companies were bidding, other was bidding against a consortium the other is within the consortium

SUFFERInSMILIIN:
For a gay Superman, now it is Star Trek Discovery which has also gone homosexua.l

Uuurrgghhh!? The LGBTIQ army will never let us rest. They're INDIRECTLY INVITING A reaction.

AfriqueDuZuid:


It's value over quantity.

You changed gears from how SA influence and investment in Africa is only rivaled by US and France to value over quantity

We get this nonsense that Kenya is focused on Nairobi. Nairobi is growing on it's own momentum. Other cities are also growing in Kenya.

You think we would have built 3rd largest sub-sahara economy by chance?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MjIXdsHhxM

GeneralDae:

Exactly. Rwanda for instance seem to be more about Kigali just the way Kenya is very focused on Nairobi but in SA there are many cities with good urban development. You even have 3 capitals.

In Nigeria, there have always been Lagos and Abuja. However, Kaduna is developing even more rapidly than Abuja at the moment. Road construction and flyovers in PortHarcourt has been the norm for the past 4 years. Uyo and Calabar are industrializing rapidly as well as Borno state which was bedeviled by the BokoHaram crises. We are not even talking about Lagos with the light rails and projects going on.

However, with all of these we know Nigeria should be doing much more but its' funny to see how the Kenyans brag about even lesser things like mere road construction in a tiny part of the capital as the face of development in Africa

That is when you know they are scrapping the bottom of the barrel this early. By 2030 - they would have given up.

NTSA:


You changed gears from how SA influence and investment in Africa is only rivaled by US and France to value over quantity

Vodafone (Vodacom) is included. Vodacom is subsidiary of Vodafone. Safaricom is not.

AfriqueDuZuid:


LOL funny how you exclude vodacom, it's a consortium.

What you fail to understand is two south african companies were bidding, other was bidding against a consortium the other is within the consortium

Mkenya2019:
Pure nut case. Kenya is top 10 in global good. Kenya has always been well known. Not only as only UN HQ in the global south, as the Oasis of peace in war torn Africa, as one most progressive countries, Nairobi is now literally the HQ of Africa - competing with Joburg.

As for Nigeria - you're known as corrupt enclave that generates thugs and drug dealers. You probably the most infamous country on planet earth.

Kenya rise is not "new" thing..Nigeria and Ghana recently emerged from 40yrs of military dictatorship - and rejoined civilized nations. Both countries became democratic - 2002 - 20yrs ago

South Africa did well under Mandela - from pariah state - they expanded regionally - and became a force to reckon with - and post-Zuma they are going down.

As for Nigeria - apart from Goodluck and Obasanjo - your Buhari and your former military leaders are butt of jokes.

At least Buhari (for all his shortcomings) is not a model of the Kenyatta family. One family ruling a country and hiding much of her wealth overseas.

For every shilling Uhuru steals, he generates 10. Buhari has managed to crash your economy...recession after recession.Naira under his regime has crashed. I bet the black market naira-dollar rate is 600 naira for a dollar

He said that the country’s Gross Domestic Product (GDP) has multiplied by a 2-factor plus, making Kenya the sixth wealthiest nation in Africa.

“In 2013, Kenya was Africa’s 12th wealthiest nation with a GDP of Sh4.75tr. In eight years, the GDP stands at Sh11 trillion, making Kenya the sixth wealthiest nation in the continent.”

GeneralDae:

At least Buhari (for all his shortcomings) is not a model of the Kenyatta family. One family ruling a country and hiding much of her wealth overseas.

Mkenya2019:
We get this nonsense that Kenya is focused on Nairobi. Nairobi is growing on it's own momentum. Other cities are also growing in Kenya.

You think we would have built 3rd largest sub-sahara economy by chance?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MjIXdsHhxM

But most of what you brag about here in terms of development have been about Nairobi and your small CBD.

Mkenya2019:
Disingenuous as always. How does South Africa VW Group (German) company become France and Rwanda.

France and Rwanda do not see eye to eye. Belgians are not even allowed to enter Rwanda. Kagame still blame them for genocide.

As for South Africa - previously you were the big boys - but you're going down.

Nairobi is beating Joburg - and Kenya is slowly expanding beyond east africa to new terrorities.

Once we conquer DRC (and we are on course - 2nd biggest bank is now Equity) - and Ethiopia (Safaricom) - those two countries are nearly 200M.

We shall be on top of Africa...because EAC+DRC+ETH - will give us a 350M sphere of influence.

I was just showing you how South African public listed company is doing.

Belgians a entering Rwanda with no disturbances, the one that was deported was he practiced law in Rwanda which is illegal, again Belgians roam free in Rwanda, stop lying.

KAGAME was part of the genocide that's why he assassinates everyone who differs.

SA will be big boys for a very long time , deal with it.

LOL influence does not have anything to do with population, that's why UK with population under 70m has influence than a country like Pakistan, India, Brazil.....

You seem not to understand geopolitics

Kazikazi:
Kenya has 550 companies in TZ with a value of 1.7b. On average,each company invested less than 3m!
Are those real companies or just some hawkers shops?

The good thing is that the market share of those companies will keep increasing...Look at how Kenyan banks are acquiring other Banks in DRC , Rwanda etc.

Nairobi of course is an African crown jewel. Why wont we not brag about building such a great city from the sweats of our brows? You got petro-dollars and your cities look like cattle kraals. While middle east have transformed their camel kraals into world best cities

So please understand why we taunt you. It simple. You have lots of hydro carbons and so much minerals but you're totally CRAP.

GeneralDae:

But most of what you brag about here in terms of development have been about Nairobi and your small CBD.

There are many things that works against you. One is location. You're at the southern tip of Africa.

The sooner you accept Nairobi and Kenya pre-eminence the better for you.

Your prose looks like a West African - same whatsapp group. Zero critical thinking.

AfriqueDuZuid:


I was just showing you how South African public listed company is doing.

Belgians a entering Rwanda with no disturbances, the one that was deported was he practiced law in Rwanda which is illegal, again Belgians roam free in Rwanda, stop lying.

KAGAME was part of the genocide that's why he assassinates everyone who differs.

SA will be big boys for a very long time , deal with it.

LOL influence does not have anything to do with population, that's why UK with population under 70m has influence than a country like Pakistan, India, Brazil.....

You seem not to understand geopolitics

mtisQ:
@Popizaino.. bro ya quiet today..lets talk gold stuff...

Thanks for introducing me to Kalistus and Boma. Those guys made my day this morning . I watched "Facebook Prophets" then "Terms and Conditions".

NTSA:


You changed gears from how SA influence and investment in Africa is only rivaled by US and France to value over quantity

My stance never changed

SA influence, investment is unrivaled in africa
We the biggest investor, all indicators prove that.

I think it's a mistake for any kenya company to expand in TZ - their jealousy is so consuming - you'd be courting a disaster. Most kenya companies are keeping TZ subsidiaries just to look good otherwise real action is Uganda, Rwanda, DRC, South Sudan (primitives) and soon Ethiopia.

NTSA:

The good thing is that the market share of those companies will keep increasing...Look at how Kenyan banks are acquiring other Banks in DRC , Rwanda etc.

It quite simple. Your companies are retreating from regional expansion - and Kenya companies are expanding regionally. That very simple. Now if you project ceteris paribus then you can conclude Kenya will soon pip South Africa.

See, easy breezy.

AfriqueDuZuid:


My stance never changed

SA influence, investment is unrivaled in africa
We the biggest investor, all indicators prove that.

NTSA:

The good thing is that the market share of those companies will keep increasing...Look at how Kenyan banks are acquiring other Banks in DRC , Rwanda etc.

You had nakumatt in TZ, it vanished,you had uchumi in TZ,it vanished, you had ARM cement it became bankrupt, and it vanished!
Are they increasing or decreasing?

SUFFERInSMILIIN:
For a gay Superman, now it is Star Trek Discovery which has also gone homosexua.l

this is a norm in any scifi series currently..even we got gay aliens

Mkenya2019:
I think it's a mistake for any kenya company to expand in TZ - their jealousy is so consuming - you'd be courting a disaster. Most kenya companies are keeping TZ subsidiary just to look good otherwise real action is Uganda,Rwanda, DRC, South Sudan (primitives) and soon Ethiopia.

Why would Tanzania be jealous of you? Their economy is doing well, they have good infrastructure and better Tourism and they even feed your people. I think it's the Kenyans that should learn from Tanzania.

The answer is obvious. Unable to wiststand competition - you resort to hounding and frustrating kenya companies - and welcome the Kaburi (boer) from South Africa to rule you.

https://allafrica.com/stories/202002250325.html
Kenya: The Unspoken Pain of Kenyan Companies in Tanzania
Although many Kenyan companies doing business with Tanzania may not publicly admit it, they are caught up in a cold war that threatens to freeze them out.

They accuse the neighbour of being averse to competition, and any sense of losing out results in arbitrary introduction of charges that ensure Kenyan products attract higher prices.

Tanzanian has banned some services offered by Kenyan firms and introduced trade barriers that favour local competitors while frustrating the latter.

Kazikazi:
You had nakumatt in TZ, it vanished,you had uchumi in TZ,it vanished, you had ARM cement it became bankrupt, and it vanished!
Are they increasing or decreasing?

rvp2018:
My friend you should realize the average African is retarded..that just the reality..don't let bonobos drag you to their level...stick to facts as always and facts are very stubborn things ..they can argue like little kids endlessly because we are talking mentaly retarded folks..IQ of 70.IQ will improve over time as mental retardation is eliminated through proper nutrition.Now we are talking 30 percent physical and mental stunting.fix that Africa HCI and IQ improve by 30 percent

Tbh,I have grown a very tough skin over the years of dealing with special idots like him and his likes, so his innuendo are just what I find very funny most atimes. If my takes irks him and his likes so much then he should check his emotions, not here to massage ego, my fidelity is with facts and not their puerile rants. I believe which ever capacity we find ourselves in life, be it as an individual, organization or as a nation we should all be open to criticism,because it helps us to grow. Ghanaian on the other hands wants only praises and the moment you call out their flaws they get in their feelings and attack the messenger leaving out the message. And this makes me wonder if they would ever realise their potentials as a country ?

Maybe you're talking of a new Tanzania. Kenya economy now is nearly double Tanzania. Despite Tanzania having minerals, large (Nigeria size) arable land, large coastline and name it.

If you ask an average Kenyan if Tanzania will ever reach kenya level - they will laugh out loud.

We know Tanzania as one of the world slowest people. SLOTH.

GeneralDae:

Why would Tanzania be jealous of you? Their economy is doing well, they have good infrastructure and better Tourism and they even feed your people. I think it's the Kenyans that should learn from Tanzania.

Very good. In these forums it like walking through an open defacation field. You have to keep jumping but sometimes you step on their shiet.

It even tough when you have someone like Just30 who is diarhoeaing endlessly - it's almost appears he is paid to online diarhoea.

popizaino:



Tbh,I have grown a very tough skin over the years of dealing with special idots like him and his likes, so his innuendo are just what I find very funny most atimes. If my takes irks him and his likes so much then he should check his emotions, not here to massage ego, my fidelity is with facts and not their puerile rants. I believe which ever capacity we find ourselves in life, be it as an individual, organization or as a nation we should all be open to criticism,because it helps us to grow. Ghanaian on the other hands wants only praises and the moment you call out their flaws they get in their feelings and attack the messenger leaving out the message. And this makes me wonder if they would ever realise their potentials as a country ?

vankelvin:


Mr, Clown, are you okay up there ??

He's demented. Can you believe the nonsense he types!
Ghana emerging from military era.

Mkenya2019:
I think it's a mistake for any kenya company to expand in TZ - their jealousy is so consuming - you'd be courting a disaster. Most kenya companies are keeping TZ subsidiaries just to look good otherwise real action is Uganda, Rwanda, DRC, South Sudan (primitives) and soon Ethiopia.

Simply put,you lack capital to compete in Tz.
Imagine that Kenyan ARM cement owned by Indian dude,it came to TZ,tried to set up a plant with little money,meanwhile,Heildelberg group,Lafarge,and dangote which oparates in TZ,are too big for ARM.The result? ARM closed shop and were bankrupt!