Seun:
Is there any verse in the Bible that says we must not criticise preachers? The "touch not my annointed" verse they often use has nothing to do with that.

Seun:
Birds of a feather flock together. They are both very good at making people fall down.

pacretus:
Yes brothe numbers 12:1-10 it tells how God became angry with miriam and Aaron for speaking against Moses who married an Ethiopian woman.which was in everyway against the the laws of God.and as punishment miriam became leprous..but Aaron was spared because he held a very sensitive position as the high priest.but that the stop the punishment he would recieve for speaking against the man of God,Moses.

dyydxx:


was the same God not angry with Moses too for striking the rock with a rod instead of speaking to it, or when the whole congregation of the children of Israel murmur against God himself did God kill all of them abegi you guys that have been brainwashed should stop selecting the word of God. The truth is no preacher is above scrutiny by the word of God. The word of God is the ultimate arbiter and a man of God can be challenged according to the word. That's why the same bible says to 'Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment'John 7:24 KJV and 'But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one' 1 Cor 2: 15-16 KJV

so please let us hear word. If it's like that and God strikes people dead for criticizing men Of God only the strong believers are supposed to be alive by now, all the rest should have perished. That is to show you that God doesn't operate by slavery methods invented by the so called men of God to keep you deluded church goers in awe of them and scared to say the truth.

pacretus:
what exactly do you understand by that bold passage??
When you criticize a man of God fo acquiring lands,houses or jets or for building an edifice for people to worship God,how is that a ''righteous judgement'' forgeting what christ promised his followers, not just pastors,in matthew 19:27..
Mind you, no reasonable person would spend time criticising others.shalom.

dyydxx:


righteous judgement is judging according to the word. nobody is immune from scrutiny of the word. Paul says that if anyone brings another gospel from what we know to be the word, let the person be accursed. I repeat nobody is immune from scrutiny by the word. this idea that somehow criticizing a MOG is somehow anathema is the real problem. My position is any criticism has to be in line with the word and that's the beginning and the end of the matter.

dyydxx:


righteous judgement is judging according to the word. nobody is immune from scrutiny of the word. Paul says that if anyone brings another gospel from what we know to be the word, let the person be accursed. I repeat nobody is immune from scrutiny by the word. this idea that somehow criticizing a MOG is somehow anathema is the real problem. My position is any criticism has to be in line with the word and that's the beginning and the end of the matter.

frubben:


Leave dat guy na zombie him b.

Seun:
Birds of a feather flock together. They are both very good at making people fall down.

pacretus:
since we're into scriptures here[b],where in the the bible did christians speak against their heads.or where was it advised[/b].i already gave my reason backed by numbers 12:1-10 why it's not Godly to speak against a man of God.
If you have a problem with the doctring of a church and you know the spirit of God in you doesn't agree with the doctine either,MOVE to another.But don't go about criticising the church.
Why do you think in the book of john8:7 jesus told the jews who came to him accusing a widow of adultery,''he that is without sin among you,let him first cast a stone at her''?
because they themselves had their own faults which they ignored.this reminds me of the passage matthew7:1 which say''judge not that ye may not be judged'' and went further in the preceding verses(3-5)to show how hypocritical, humans could be,swift to penalize an offender,when they're guilty of worse sins.

Verses 2,4 and 5 clearly state that the bishop must be a husband of one wife and must be able to rule his own household well. Now these are men that are divorced or have problems ruling their households and the bible clearly states that if they can't do this how would they rule over the entire church? How can they be teaching you marriage seminar or how to have a happy marriage when their are in shambles How does that work?

frubben:

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pacretus:
Yes brothe numbers 12:1-10 it tells how God became angry with miriam and Aaron for speaking against Moses who married an Ethiopian woman.which was in everyway against the the laws of God.and as punishment miriam became leprous..but Aaron was spared because he held a very sensitive position as the high priest.but that the stop the punishment he would recieve for speaking against the man of God,Moses.

dyydxx:


very very simple.I would give you two examples

(1) Lets go to Galatians 2: from verse 7 to the end to get the full context.

7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;

8 (For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles

9 And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.

10 Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do.

11 But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.
12 For before that certain came from James, he did eat with the Gentiles: but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them which were of the circumcision.

13 And the other Jews dissembled likewise with him; insomuch that Barnabas also was carried away with their dissimulation.

14 But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?

15 We who are Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles,

16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

17 But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid.

18 For if I build again the things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor.

19 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.

20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.(KJV)

Verse 11 and 14 clearly states that Paul withstood peter and corrected him in the presence of all because he felt that Peter didn't walk uprightly according to the truth of the gospel as regards that matter. This is a whole Apostle Peter, the Apostle of God ordained to the Jews with the anointing of God to minister in that regard. Why didn't God strike Paul dead or curse Paul like miriam or whoever you folks use to justify your lack of criticism of MOGs. infact another version says that Paul was appalled by Peter's hypocrisy, can you imagine a whole Peter being called a hypocrite publicy yet God didn't thunder strike Paul. he lived a long life and when he was ready to die he said he has fought a good fight. and you know what, later Peter acknowledge Paul and the two of them were best friends later on in ministry.

2. The bible clearly states in 1 Timothy Chapter 3, the requirements to be a bishop or leader or overseer of the flock of God.

Qualifications of Bishops
1 This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.
2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behavior, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
3 not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;
4 one that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;
5 (for if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)
6 not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.
7 Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.

Verses 2,4 and 5 clearly state that the bishop must be a husband of one wife and must be able to rule his own household well. Now these are men that are divorced or have problems ruling their households and the bible clearly states that if they can't do this how would they rule over the entire church? How can they be teaching you marriage seminar or how to have a happy marriage when their are in shambles How does that work?

My brother those are examples of what the bible refers to when it says Judge not according to appearance but Judge righteous judgement. Judging righteous judgement is Judging with the word

pacretus:
well done brother,i wouldn't be telling anyone not to criticise men of God if it weren't dangerous.others might get away it,but we all don't have same destiny.
Pauls ministry was mainly to the gentiles as peter's was to the jews.paul had reasons rebuke peter,because 1:he was also a minister(in verse 8 of the same galatians 2.we can see that paul wasn't a member but a fellow minister.he evn listed his qualifications.lol.
2:against his ministry,if he hadn't rebuked peter his ministry would be affected negatively.
any pastor who engages lmmorality,fraud or any other sin,has already been judged by God word.
But romans 8:33 says''who shall lay anything to d charge of Gods elect? It is God that justifieth.
If you donLt agree with his ways,reject it don't let it be an occation to gossip.meanwhile,try andmeditate on the scriptures.it helped me on this matter.

lielbree:
Is pastor Chris back with his wife? Someone said so but I don't know if it's true

Freedom4us:
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smartattorney:
This deserves FP for a better publicity.

Seun:
Is there any verse in the Bible that says we must not criticise preachers? The "touch not my anointed" verse has nothing to do with that.

Seun:
Is there any verse in the Bible that says we must not criticise preachers? The "touch not my anointed" verse has nothing to do with that.

Brainwashed CE Member: This is too high for you

Rev Chris: I heard that some media houses – especially in Nigeria – are writing some things against me. All sorts of frivolous charges, that’s crazy,”

Rev Chris: You have to understand something about a man of God. A man of God is not just someone who worships God or preaches God. A man of God is handpicked by God, set on course by God. If you study the scriptures, you will not find one man of God go against God, sinning against God. “The only things you might find will be a man of God, maybe in two different kinds of ways. Moses, for example; when he struck the rock twice, [he] was provoked by the anger of the people. [It was] not because he wanted to do something against the Lord. No man of God does something against the Lord. “Are you hearing me? A man of God is set on a course; there is a type of life that he is given. Then you have a young man, a young prophet; he wasn’t named; he was deceived by another man of God and so he went in a direction that God said ‘don’t go’. “That is the only kind of thing you find about a man of God when he misses the message of God or he acts beyond what God said.

Rev Chris: But a man of God settles himself in the fight against the world… like those writing those silly things about me, that I did this and I did that. “You don’t know who a man of God is. I don’t go in that direction. I wasn’t accused of the things you said, nor did I commit those silly things that you said and I don’t need to go into that level in such discussions

Rev Chris: Jesus Christ was accused by many – a lot of frivolous charges. There will always be those who would like for it to be true. But you know, in spite of the accusations against Jesus, It didn’t change who he was. It didn’t change him. “There are preachers and there are men of God. I am not a preacher; I am a man of God and I go in the way I’m asked to go. It may cause some troubles with individuals but that’s not because I have done something wrong

Rev Chris: and when it comes to Reverend Anita, what I will say to you is ‘pray for her’. “Don’t act like those people. If you are married to a man of God, it doesn’t make you automatically mature. You can make mistakes; you can do something that is wrong. But some people expect the wife of a minister to definitely be at the level of that minister and so they may be looked upon and the expectation may be like that, but it’s a positional thing. “If a man of God is married, it doesn’t automatically mean that the wife of a man of God is therefore a woman of God. That’s not the way it is in the Bible.

Rev Chris: That’s why you don’t really find the wives of men of God mentioned in the Bible. How many of them? Who was Peter’s wife, did you ever know her name? You never find that out. Who was John’s wife? Did you ever read the name? What about all the other Apostles? How many of their names are written in the Bible. You never find their names.”

Rev Chris: “Why? You ask God when you find him. Ask God when you find him,” he exclaimed. “So, they are little things; don’t try to make something big out of them

Rev Chris: So when journeying, doing the things that God called us to do, Christians should not have a divorce

Rev Chris: it shouldn’t be but you see, that doesn’t mean a Christian may not take the step. “They may do it but [they] have to make things right and we shouldn’t take one another to court. But when it happens, not that we don’t just want to go, it means someone is taking us there

Rev Chris: That’s a problem, but be wise and stay focused in the word of God and don’t let those who want to feast on things like this, including Christians… “There are Christians who like things like this; they want to make something big out of this: ‘Yeah, yeah, yeah, we said it’. You said what? Judge nothing before the time.

Rev Chris: Be wise. Glory to God. “So we are not working in sin and living in sin and hoping that we can mix sin and righteousness together. We are the manifestation of his righteousness. We walk in that light only, and that’s the way it’s gonna be

florencepoko2:
I think Benny Hinn comes to set the marriage problem between Chris and Anita.