musicwriter:
Well, I'm not interested in the ethnic angle, I just want to add some information that've been plucked off the history books, because they don't want you to know.

Colonialism was about resource control and exploitation, making it possible for the colonialists (Britain, France, Spain, Portugal) e.t.c to get food and raw materials from their colonies for FREE. Our ancestors working as slaves grew everything Europeans wanted against our will. Example; when the texile industry was booming in Europe, all parts of Africa were forced to start growing cotton, because they needed more cotton for their cloth factories. This caused widespread famine, and there was starvation across Africa. Our ancestors were starving to death because they couldn't grow maize, yam, cassava, rice anymore. Instead we were forced to planting cotton, even though we didn't need it ourselves.

That's by the way................

It was only in the late 1800 century as calls for abolition of slavery intensified that they began paying ''peanuts'' for the raw materials. Therefore, if Lord Lugard reported £1 million for palm oil, be informed the real worth would be any where between £5 million- £10 million.

And if Lugard told you £100,000 for cocoa or groundnut, be informed the real value would be any where between £500,000 - £1 million. Slavery meant absolute possession. Colonization meant exploitation.

Prices were set by Europeans, so our ancestors had no say how much we wanted to sell our palm oil, cocoa, groundnut, tin, e.t.c. They were no bargaining or haggling as you would expect in a normal market setting today. They just weigh your stuff and pay how much they feel comfortable with. Its probably from here the commodity market evolved, because global price of gold, tin, cocoa, wheat, e.t.c is still being determined in London till this day.

That's how Britain, France, Portugal, Spain, got rich. And that's why we got poor.

I have writen songs around all these. Pray I get a record label and I'll use music to open up the minds of Africans.

Note:
Fortunately, this extreme greed by Europeans was a major contributory reason our ancestors fought for their freedom/independence.

I so love this write up, I didn't want to post any comment because of lies and half truths on this thread, until I saw your post.

The slavery and colonialism is still on till today, let's take crude oil for instance.



The U. S. A has more crude than Nigeria, but they won't export their crude, why?

Crude oil is a natural resources, in its crude state it is almost value-less, just a black sticky lump, it is drilled from the ground and sold.

APCHaram:
The famous Groundnuts generated a total of 154,000 pounds.

Cocoa the same.

The only commodity that neared palm oil from the Niger Delta was Tin mining in Jos which wasn't even up to half of that realised from palm oil.

Can you people now shutup on that silly lie that your cocoa and groundnuts were used to develop the oil industry!

well for your information Oil palm doesn't wasn't farmed only in the Niger Delta there was also oil palm in the South west so stop praise singing your self and your region and don't forget also it wasn't until Aguiyi Ironside introduced Unitary system of government was the resources from all regions pooled together so each region was taking care of itself and contributing to the center.

trapQ:
Niger Delta is the best thing that has happened to Nigeria. Our greedy, pot bellied gold digging old perverts (aka politicians) know the right thing but won't do it. Its so sad that the region that has fed this country since the days of John The Baptist has largely been neglected.

This is my prayer : Those evil leaders who have enriched themselves from the misappropriation of public funds must die since their actions have caused the death of thousands.

#TrueFederalismOrNothing
Click like if you want justice for Niger Delta.

When I hear largely dejected.get your priorities right.

Nig is a lie! U no know?

trapQ:
Receive sense. Nobody said so but the quantity of palm oil produced in the South South far exceeds that of other regions combined.

Even your map betrays you. Maybe you dont know map reading. [/b]Let me school you. The areas marked green are oil palm producing areas and in those areas you can clearly see that delta and Benin has more palm trees meaning they are the largest produces of oil palm.

Well, as much as I don't like involving myself in unproductive arguments as this, the onus still lies on my 2 clarify ur ignorance ( or oversight) on map reading.
Yes, d areas marked green are oil palm producing areas, buh d trees DO NOT mean areas of large oil palm production & it doesn't stand 4 palm trees either. If u look closely at the key u'll see dat do trees stand for RUBBER. Hence, they're rubber producing areas, even though d zones share proximity.

APCHaram:
Quotasystem progressives69 fulanimafia arresa why una no won comment?

It's very obvious you were too blind to realize that after amalgamation and before crude oil exploitation, the total of exports from the northern region was just as much, and very likely even higher than the South considering that the cash value of Tin ore was not specified, only the volume exported.

Go and sit down.

So nig is a lie!

APCHaram:


That is not the reason I made this thread.

I just wanted to highlight that over 100yrs ago the Niger Delta has been feeding you.

Nig is a lie!

fulanimafia:


[s]It's very obvious you were too blind to realize that after amalgamation and before crude oil exploitation, the total of exports from the northern region was just as much, and very likely even higher than the South considering that the cash value of Tin ore was not specified, only the volume exported.

Go and sit down[/s].

People are talking you sef follow yarn?


Don't you see that what was quoted was in British Pounds and not weight?

Dismantling Hausa Fulani and Yoruba lies

Excerpts from

PETER KILBY "THE NIGERIAN PALM OIL INDUSTRY" (July 1967)
Pg 187, 203

From the 11-year data as shown in the tables below:

Based on Quantity Produced (in %)
East: 90.79% Palm Oil, 48.21% Palm Kernel
West: 8.50% Palm Oil, 47.58% Palm Kernel

In addition, the Palm produce in the East were of higher quality. Consequently, buyers paid a premium for them.


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VulgarVulvas
aribisala0
InyinyaAgbaOku
APCHaram
CSTR2

1955 data are interesting and important but not relevant to the subject of this thread which is 1914 a period of 40 years. That is like comparing today to 40 years ago. Production shifts according to demand. How much cannabis is cultivated in Nigeria today compared even to 20 years ago.?

Let us look again at Cassava. How many people know that cassava is not indigenous to Nigeria or Africa? In Southern Nigeria yam was the staple but Cassava is easier to produce and a more rugged crop. Cassava like Cocoa was brought from South America and the rest is history.

Today Nigeria is the largest producer in the world though we consume most of what we produce . What was the level of cassava production in 1954, or 1914?

When we put data forward we must analyse what it means.
If you want to discuss 1954 let us go there but not just palm oil .Let us look at the whole picture and not isolated data.

This thread is about 1914 . A generation earlier

aribisala0:
1955 data are interesting and important but not relevant to the subject of this thread which is 1914 a period of 40 years. That is like comparing today to 40 years ago. Production shifts according to demand. How much cannabis is cultivated in Nigeria today compared even to 20 years ago.?

Let us look again at Cassava. How many people know that cassava is not indigenous to Nigeria or Africa? In Southern Nigeria yam was the staple but Cassava is easier to produce and a more rugged crop. Cassava like Cocoa was brought from South America and the rest is history.

Today Nigeria is the largest producer in the world though we consume most of what we produce . What was the level of cassava production in 1954, or 1914?

When we put data forward we must analyse what it means.
If you want to discuss 1954 let us go there but not just palm oil .Let us look at the whole picture and not isolated data.

This thread is about 1914 . A generation earlier

Export is not economy and exports of farm produce do not equal to GDP. Exports as a whole is sometimes not up to 5 percent of GDP. Why should it be. So export is never economy. Only in Nigeria.

lawani:


Export is not economy and exports of farm produce do not equal to GDP. Exports as a whole is sometimes not up to 5 percent of GDP. Why should it be. So export is never economy. Only in Nigeria.

In general I agree with you nevertheless we need to exhaust the discussion on the contribution of palm oil as an export commodity in comparison to other products if not for anything but for history and historicity.
I believe that records were kept from about 1896 and that is what we should be looking at

aribisala0:
In general I agree with you nevertheless we need to exhaust the discussion on the contribution of palm oil as an export commodity in comparison to other products if not for anything but for history and historicity.
I believe that records were kept from about 1896 and that is what we should be looking at

before oil, even in the 19th century, Europe preferred Nigerian palm oil to oil their machines of the industrial revolution. They swarmed on West Africa for palm oil abandoning one Indian oil that was initially used. Palm oil was preferred as a lubricant, so it was the crude oil back then. far more valuable cos it is also edible. Even now it is still more valuable per barrel or per tonne. However that palm oil mentioned was gotten from 21 states at least if Plateau, Taraba and etc are not there to make at least 23. Yoruba produce a large volume of palm oil from time immemorial. presently we produce more palm kernel oil because we have more refineries. That is not debateable. palm trees on Yoruba land will be hundreds of millions, each one worth more than 20 dollars naira a year to the farmer.

lawani:


before oil, even in the 19th century, Europe preferred Nigerian palm oil to oil their machines of the industrial revolution. They swarmed on West Africa for palm oil abandoning one Indian oil that was initially used. Palm oil was preferred as a lubricant, so it was the crude oil back then. far more valuable cos it is also edible. Even now it is still more valuable per barrel or per tonne. However that palm oil mentioned was gotten from 21 states at least if Plateau, Taraba and etc are not there to make at least 23. Yoruba produce a large volume of palm oil from time immemorial. presently we produce more palm kernel oil because we have more refineries. That is not debateable. palm trees on Yoruba land will be hundreds of millions, each one worth more than 20 dollars naira a year to the farmer.

I do not think the Western Region ever exported more Palm oil than the Eastern region to Britain but like I said it is important to look at the whole picture with facts rather than conjecture

aribisala0:
I do not think the Western Region ever exported more Palm oil than the Eastern region to Britain but like I said it is important to look at the whole picture with facts rather than conjecture

Igbo land produces more consume less per capita and export more I believe but that may not be true, it may be that they export more because they consume less.

lawani:


Igbo land produces more consume less per capita and export more I believe but that may not be true, it may be that they export more because they consume less.

I have not said anything about Igboland.

aribisala0:
I have not said anything about Igboland.

SE is Igbo land apart from other Igbo land outside SE.

lawani:


SE is Igbo land apart from other Igbo land outside SE.

orrai

All ab0ki educated illiterates forming Northern intellects with their almajiri tier taqiyya can only deceive themselves, their backward slave populace and those children from the south Hate !

Thank God I made this thread long before ango began spewing his almajiri tier taqiyya

aribisala0:
orrai

Oga south Hate, hope you are not still towing the almajiri argument as you earlier did in this thread

sangresan:
So,where is the 'oil palm' house in Enugu and Calabar?....Illiteracy is when you posted figures for just two years and start beating your chest...These people are mere noise makers..They should let us rest.

This is like asking why there is no NNPC HQ in the Niger Delta.

Oil palm was not a significant revenue earner for the western Region. Stop claiming sh1t

APCHaram:
https://www.google.com/url?q=http://libsysdigi.library.illinois.edu/ilharvest/Africana/Books2011-05/3064634/3064634_1914/3064634_1914_opt.pdf&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwiGyOH69YLPAhUBJMAKHe0OAM8QFggLMAA&usg=AFQjCNE8bx1PWlU-vVAQhrTxIllP50Cn-w

Saw this pdf "Annual Report 1914, Nigeria " (see link above) which showed gross revenue between the north and southern regions after one year of almagation.

Go to page 7 and see for yourself how Nigeria's greatest revenue earner at over €1million pounds ( at least 10 times higher than any commodity export even cocoa) is proof that Niger Delta and eastern Nigeria has been feeding Nigeria since almagation.

Are you aware that palm oil was harvested all over South, all the way to Ibadan?

BlowBack:


This is like asking why there is no NNPC HQ in the Niger Delta.

Oil palm was not a significant revenue earner for the western Region. Stop claiming sh1t

You have to prove that oil palm was not significant in West.

APCHaram:


That is not the reason I made this thread.

I just wanted to highlight that over 100yrs ago the Niger Delta has been feeding you.

Eastern Nigeria.

APCHaram:


Which year was this your map?

Have you heard of Oil River in what is present day Rivers and Akwa Ibom?

Pls try another lie

Rivers state is Igbo land.
Never forget this.

APCHaram:


That is not the reason I made this thread.

I just wanted to highlight that over 100yrs ago the Niger Delta has been feeding you.

eastern nigeria, Not Niger delta.

OBAFEMIawolowo:
I thought It was cocoa.

Those are among the long list of lies SW leaders have been feeding u guys in the last several decades.

Auladimeji2, afonja bastard come and tell me how cocoa fed us in the Niger Delta

Parasite