SapeleGuy:


I have to question your sincerity when you dismiss the charges against obasanjo, turaki, grange, kalu and others as 'clutching at straws'. Why don't you go the whole hog and discharge and acquit them.

s4:

@Sapeleguy: 
You baffle me. Your stand on this case is not clear all. I dont want to believe what my mind is suggesting. But A thief does not have another name. A thief is a Thief and in our culture such people are not allowed. Anytime i read your comment it seems to me that you are an Ibori APPOLOGIST. Sentiments should not be allowed to take over us if we want to build a NEW NIGERIA. A NEW NIGERIA that will allow our children to have a FREE LIFE FOR THEMSELVES.

s4:

@Beaf
No, I don't think that's his point. I understand SapeleGuy's position perfectly. We all know that Ibori is a criminal. But there is the more subtle game that Niger Delta people are aware of; it is the political traps the FG has been laying instead of being true to their word and resolving the ND issues once and for all. There are a lot of paid nagative propaganda mongers spreading deliberate falsehoods and hyping anything negative about the ND to the exclusion of all else.

What exactly is his point. No hide and seek game in here.

SapeleGuy:

^^^PROSECUTE ALL LOOTERS that is my point or do you disagree?

Beaf:

I don't see any hide and seek games in my position, but there is a subtle game being played elsewhere. Yes, Ibori is a criminal; but why are there are very few threads about Atiku (Harlibuton), IBB, Tinubu (drug baron) etc; are these people not worth our attention as well?

citizenY:


@bEAF

WHY DON'T U OPEN THE THREADS,

WE'LL DISCUSS THEM IF YOU HAVE THE DETAILS.

SHAME ONE SHAME ALL

komekn:

On the 30 year thing I like the idea, application will be challenging, for example a particular Minister of Finance in the 1st republic executed during the first military coup(if you be sapele you will know him well) well his 1st daughter has never worked a day in the UK,  but has a house and lives on Bishops avenue, Finchley. (my London nairalanders is there a house on this avenue less than 5million pounds?) The issue is, this money may not be in the hands of the thieves directly but convenient family members, friends, corporate entities etc,etc,

SapeleGuy:

If you have any proof of wrongdoing, please present it instead of slandering one of Nigeria's greatest sons.

If you have any proof of wrongdoing, please present it instead of slandering one of Nigeria's greatest sons. If you do your research (instead of listening to gossip) you will know that he was a very very wealthy man before he went into politics.

Beaf:

No, I don't think that's his point. I understand SapeleGuy's position perfectly. We all know that Ibori is a criminal. But there is the more subtle game that Niger Delta people are aware of; it is the political traps the FG has been laying instead of being true to their word and resolving the ND issues once and for all. There are a lot of paid nagative propaganda mongers spreading deliberate falsehoods and hyping anything negative about the ND to the exclusion of all else.

MrCrackles:

Are you shitting me?
Nigeria's greatest son
Do you mean Nigeria's greatest thief?
Where did a common home superstore sales attendant in the UK before he moved to Nigeria (And into politics) get all his wealth from?
What more proof do you need to conclude Ibori is a bloody thief whose blood platelets are filled with corruption particles?

komekn:

On the 30 year thing I like the idea, application will be challenging, for example a particular Minister of Finance in the 1st republic executed during the first military coup(if you be sapele you will know him well) well his 1st daughter has never worked a day in the UK,  but has a house and lives on Bishops avenue, Finchley. (my London nairalanders is there a house on this avenue less than 5million pounds?) The issue is, this money may not be in the hands of the thieves directly but convenient family members, friends, corporate entities etc,etc,

SapeleGuy:

If you have any proof of wrongdoing, please present it instead of slandering one of Nigeria's greatest sons. If you do your research (instead of listening to gossip) you will know that he was a very very wealthy man before he went into politics.

If you want to talk about legacy and achievement there has not been a more successful or astute Minister of Finance since.

This man was responsible for setting up the following:
1 The Central Bank.
2 The Naira Currency.
3 The Nigerian Stock Exchange.

I will leave you with a quote.

"The ten-year economic development plan which the Federal Government released in 1964 had largely been crafted by the late Chief and his team of specially chosen advisers. In that plan among the most notable objectives were a decision to swiftly expand the route network of the Nigerian Railway Corporation in the Southern states and especially along the Niger Delta axis to enhance its goods carrying capacity and make it a viable adjunct to the seaport network. Chief proposed to develop a network of rail and road routes from Lokoja to Benin City, Koko, Warri, and on to Onitsha.

If such a network was actually in place today, evacuation of petroleum products and other essentials produced by or imported into, this vital maritime axis would be much more accessible to the rest of the nation. In addition, Chief  had embarked in 1965 on a global campaign to invite foreign investment into Nigeria's agricultural sector and when he died plans were already far gone for investment in oil palm and rubber production from Asia, sugar, rice and, grain production from Europe and the USA, and plans were afoot to find ways to expand Nigeria's dairy and meat production industries to develop an export capacity in these areas. Sadly these plans were aborted brutally when he was killed because his personal touch had played a great part in giving off-shore investors the much-needed confidence to put their money into a newly independent African nation.

Under his tutelage Nigeria enjoyed its most credit-worthy reputation among foreign bankers whenever he put in a fiscal request. We have seen letters from Chief Obafemi Awolowo, one of his most vehement political opponents in which the illustrious chief praised his adversary for the good sense and effective planning contained in one of his budget speeches."

MrCrackles:


Comparison with other Governors is not a valid yardstick here because virtually all of them looted and bled thier respective treasuries dry!

MrCrackles:


How did Ibori become a billionaire before he become governor?
Tell me.

MrCrackles:


Awon oloshi bastards!


so u are omo yoruba, thesame people who impeach a gov for not looting and impeach a gov for building imaginary poultry for 2 billion, confused set

komekn:

Sapeleguy, in respect of this Minister of Finance I agree with you completely in the context of strategic vision but in terms of delivery outcomes there are some questions. As to corrupt acquisitions through inheritance there is no slander or gossip here whatsoever.

komekn:

However, the issue is corruption, just like Ogbemudia former military governor of the then Bendel state (actually indicted) and visionary can be ascribed to be the architect of modern day Benin-city; sadly he could not resist the temptation of getting his hands into the cookie jar of stolen public funds.

komekn:

In effect we have become so used to ineptitude that in a perverse sense we celebrate, when our so called leaders do a fraction of what they are supposed to do. Which in itself make them feel in a twisted sense entitled to loot the public purse.

Finally, without contradiction there is a somewhat perverted preoccupation with James Ibori to the exclusion of all other thieves and government looters, past, present and may I dare say future.  I tried to explain it not justify it.