@ Nferyn

The second coming was prophecised to happen within the lifetime of some of his disciples, why hasn't he come yet?

The problem with you is that you stumble over biblical expressions you don't understand. Jesus made a statement within context and you're trying to isolate a text or two out of context to make a point.

It doesn't work that way. Look for the weight of evidence and see the general meaning of things before going to the specific. Thats the thumb rule for a proper understanding of scriptures.

You're a sceince person right? If I just out of the blue referred you to a rather complex thought that seemed far fetched, wouldn't you be lost somewhere if you didn't understand the basics that led up to that complex thought or idea?

When it comes to difficult passages like the ones you like to throw in peopel's faces, wouldn't it be wise to try and understand those passages in the original hebrew or aramaic languages, just to see exactly what was said.

Secondly wouldn't it be wise to try and understand what Jesus was trying to tell His disciples? Don't you realize that Jesus often spoke in codes that later required a response from His disciples about something He said that they didn't seem to understand?

Thirdly, there are many biblical renditions with very poor translations. That factor has to be borne in mind when quoting texts.

goodguy:

Preach on brother!

Goodguy the coming of the Lord happened just as the word of God teaches, He returned on the day of Pentecost. See Acts chapter two

herb:

Goodguy the coming of the Lord happened just as the word of God teaches, He returned on the day of Pentecost. See Acts chapter two

Another heretic unfortunately displayed with is very first post . O ma se o.

cgift:

Another heretic unfortunately displayed with is very first post . O ma se o.

Lol. . . I no fit laugh.

@ elbaron,
First of all, I think you should concern yourself with the second coming of Christ, prepare for it and forget about the day He’s coming! If no one knows the date, how can we know the day? Just keep a careful watch!!!

I also noticed that you are not very conversant with the world time zone! Beijing (China) is 8 hours ahead of Ghana, not 11 hours. Sydney (Australia) is 10 hours ahead (no daylight saving time at the moment) not 9. You must be confusing Fiji with China, they are like 12 hours ahead of you guys.

Stop the argeument guys, the bible has already answerd the question, Matthew 10:23, according to the Bible, Jesus(pbh) has come and go, and the Qur'an let us know that Jesus is not coming back anymore.Qur'an 21:7-8,34. Stop wasting your time in waiting for the coming back of Jesus. The truth is he is not coming back, he has died since befor Prophet Muhammed(pbuh) came into this World.



Truth has come, !!!

Femi 1:

Stop the argeument guys, the bible has already answerd the question, Matthew 10:23, according to the Bible, Jesus(pbh) has come and go, and the Qur'an let us know that Jesus is not coming back anymore.Qur'an 21:7-8,34. Stop wasting your time in waiting for the coming back of Jesus. The truth is he is not coming back, he has died since befor Prophet The Great Prophet(pbuh) came into this World.



Truth has come, !!!

Olabowale and babs787 claim that Jesus Christ is coming back for the muuslims. Are you people sane at all?

@Femi 1
I disagree completely. How do you represent the Mus'lims like this? Are you an Ahmadiiiii!!!
You are going against what the Ko'ran and Moh'ammed taught and said. The ko'ran clearly states that Christ will return and he is not dead yet. Okay!
I advice you to change your Al-Qida(creed). Because going against a verse in the ko'ran guarantees the fire! May All'ah save us.

The Qur'an and hadith is our constitutional book and anything the Quran says is the truth, if hadith oppose the motion of the Qur'an , then the motion of the hadith is incorrect. Go to Quran 21:7-8,34, Almighty Allah told Muhammed that in the above chapter and verses that  befor Muhammed came into this world, He (Allah) did not grant to any human being (messengers, prophets) immortal life, that everybody befor Muhammed had died. and as we know Man is destined to die once.

Femi 1:

The Qur'an and hadith is our constitutional book and anything the The Great Book says is the truth, if hadith oppose the motion of the Qur'an , then the motion of the hadith is incorrect. Go to The Great Book 21:7-8,34, Almighty God told The Great Prophet that in the above chapter and verses that befor The Great Prophet came into this world, He (God) did not grant to any human being (messengers, prophets) immortal life, that everybody befor The Great Prophet had died. and as we know Man is destined to die once.

I know that every man is destined to die and have read the verses you're stating. But christ was not crucified by anyone according to All'ah and not the hadith. The ko'ran states that Christ was saved from death(crucifixion) and All'ah raised him unto Himself. Christ is in the third heaven according to the prophet and he will come back to the earth to kill the Anti-christ(Dajah).This may be similar to the Christain theology but is not identical.
The prophet Mo'hammed further states that he will land after descent from heaven in the Mosque of damascus.
By the way, 100% of the sunni schloars agree will this remark. Christ will die after killing the Anti-christ and all evil will be more.

Frizy:

I know that every man is destined to die and have read the verses you're stating. But christ was not crucified by anyone according to All'ah and not the hadith. The ko'ran states that Christ was saved from death(crucifixion) and All'ah raised him unto Himself. Christ is in the third heaven according to the prophet and he will come back to the earth to kill the Anti-christ(Dajah).This may be similar to the Christain theology but is not identical.
The prophet Mo'hammed further states that he will land after descent from heaven in the Mosque of damascus.
By the way, 100% of the sunni schloars agree will this remark. Christ will die after killing the Anti-christ and all evil will be more.

You are right, it is not only similar to the christian doctrine of the resurrection but is a CLEAR attempt to decietfully lay claims to the resurrection.

Here are my reasons why:
1. Why is there an anti-Christ but NO anti-mo'hammed? Was mohamm'd not the GREATEST AND LAST prophet?
2. What is so special about "Christ" that All'ah claims to have raised Him to himself but FAILED to even prevent m'ohammed from dying of poison?

4 Him:

You are right, it is not only similar to the christian doctrine of the resurrection but is a CLEAR attempt to decietfully lay claims to the resurrection.

Note: I did not say Christ resurrected. All I said was he will come back to the earth and not yet dead. The concept of resurrection in Is'lam has to do with the wake after death by the magnificient power of All'ah. Christ is in the third heaven.

Here are my reasons why:
1. Why is there an anti-Christ but NO anti-mo'hammed? Was mohamm'd not the GREATEST AND LAST prophet?
2. What is so special about "Christ" that All'ah claims to have raised Him to himself but FAILED to even prevent m'ohammed from dying of poison?

1. The term "Anti-christ" is just the English interpretation of one eyed devil coming to rule the world in the later days. "Dajah" is the Arabic, just as Musa is called Moses in English translation.
2. Well, if you believe christ wasn't crucified then I don't see why you should be a christian. All'ah raised to show He is able to protect whom He will. All'ah's plans are best known to Him alone. By the way, this claim nullifies christ been killed- and Mohamm'ed and schloars further explains that another man was the one that appeared to the people to be Christ.
3. Who told you Moh'ammed was poisoned? The lies y'all fabricate cannot subdue truth.

Frizy:

Note: I did not say Christ resurrected. All I said was he will come back to the earth and not yet dead. The concept of resurrection in Is'lam has to do with the wake after death by the magnificient power of All'ah. Christ is in the third heaven.

1. and who is in the 2nd heaven?
2. I said nothing about Christ being resurrected, rather i asked a pertinent question . . . why did al'lah make Christ not taste death but was powerless to prevent the GREATEST AND LAST prophet from dying a horrible death by poison?

Frizy:

1. The term "Anti-christ" is just the English interpretation of one eyed devil coming to rule the world in the later days. "Dajah" is the Arabic, just as Musa is called Moses in English translation.

this is a disgraceful attempt at a cop-out. The term anti-Christ is NOT a generic term but was FIRST used in the new testament AFTER the death and resurrection of Christ to SPECIFICALLY refer to anyone with a false spirit preaching the opposite of what the biblical Christ preached.
The term anti-Christ has been in existence LONG before English came to be.

Frizy:

2. Well, if you believe christ wasn't crucified then I don't see why you should be a christian. All'ah raised to show He is able to protect whom He will. All'ah's plans are best known to Him alone. By the way, this claim nullifies christ been killed- and Mohamm'ed and schloars further explains that another man was the one that appeared to the people to be Christ.

You're seriously confused. Look at your own write-up,
first you said al'lah raised up Christ (i presume it was not from sleep) next you claim that mo'hammed (who came more than 1400yrs after Christ's death and resurrection) understood that another man was killed in the stead of Christ? Which are we to believe?

Okay, it still begs my question - why did al'lah raise Christ to heaven instead of the GREATEST AND LAST prophet?

Frizy:

3. Who told you Moh'ammed was poisoned? The lies y'all fabricate cannot subdue truth.

Its historical knowledge, ur vehement denial is as expected of delusionists.

when was the first coming
oh, i forgot
we were told he came already, had a mother, no father
maybe for the second coming, he will av a father and no mother instead
make them they lie for u make u ey believe am
hahaha

nickybayo:

when was the first coming
oh, i forgot
we were told he came already, had a mother, no father
maybe for the second coming, he will av a father and no mother instead
make them they lie for u make u ey believe am
hahaha

It doesn't matter whether you believe it or not HE IS COMING BACK SOOOOOOOON.

kola oloye:


It doesn't matter whether you believe it or not HE IS COMING BACK SOOOOOOOON.

Leave them jare, whoever like should believe or not

hmmm

Hmmm

@ donnie

this was your post

Lk 17:34-36

34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left. 35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

In the above passage, we can see that the Word of God takes into consideration the different time zones when it talks about the comming of the Lord.

Men are at bed at night; ginding is done at the mills in the mornings for the day's bread. The typical eastern woman goes to the field in the evenings when the sun is down

Whereas the Lord was refering to a particular day and hour when He shall appear knowing fully well that when it is day in some parts of the earth, it is morning in some other parts.

Dont be sentimental bros. read the verse again

34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left. 35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

and how does the above verse explain this

In the above passage, we can see that the Word of God takes into consideration the different time zones when it talks about the comming of the Lord.

when it was only night, one timezone that was mentioned in the verse

He boldy said then, HE AINT COMING BACK AGAIN.


to do what?



why shuld we bother about second coming of jesus, he might have changed his mind and not letting us know about it, the best thing is we should bother about getting to meeting him up there, instead of he coming down here.

ofcourse his coming to shame xtians,disciline pastors about their 10percent,prophetic fradulent offerings,kill the anti christ(dajjal)and the pigs

al hail d preachers in da house. Jesus go show live, fact 2 d core.

@posta,
y do u want 2 know?
U want 2 play a fast one on brosJ by repenting a day b4 d last day, abi?
Just kidding o!

i hope Jesu will not do ojoro oooo You beta do try to do ojoro because my father's girlfriend is the efcc chair lady.

El baron, GOD is omnipotent so he can make time stand still. HE's Omnipresent, so, HE can be everywhere at once. HE's Omniscient which means, he knows too well that if HE comes now, many will perish.

HE'll come before the last of HIS disciples are dead, I'm not dead, I'm a disciple. Those who truly believe in HIM and call upon HIS name are HIS disciples. You should become one too before its too late(GOD forbid)





P.S - OmniLOVING and OmniRIGHTEOUS should be added to HIS attributes

       El baron, GOD is omnipotent so he can make time stand still. HE's Omnipresent, so, HE can be everywhere at once. HE's Omniscient which means, he knows too well that if HE comes now, many will perish.

        HE'll come before the last of HIS disciples are dead, I'm not dead, I'm a disciple. Those who truly believe in HIM and call upon HIS name are HIS disciples. You should become one too before its too late(GOD forbid)





 P.S - OmniLOVING and OmniRIGHTEOUS should be added to HIS attributes

       El baron, GOD is omnipotent so he can make time stand still. HE's Omnipresent, so, HE can be everywhere at once. HE's Omniscient which means, he knows too well that if HE comes now, many will perish.

        HE'll come before the last of HIS disciples are dead, I'm not dead, I'm a disciple. Those who truly believe in HIM and call upon HIS name are HIS disciples. You should become one too before its too late(GOD forbid)





 P.S - OmniLOVING and OmniRIGHTEOUS should be added to HIS attributes

I advise Jesus if hin go come make him no try come Nigeria ooo because boiz eyes dey chuk ooo, we fit kidnap am ooo, i pity am because i know even know who go pay him ransom because na in be the 3 in 1, Na hin be hinself, Hin papa and hin still be holy spirit, so na who sabi any of hin family member or phone number, i hope say na Glo hin people dey use because i pity am ooo if na Nitel him people still dey use. Second coming indeed, LMAO!!!