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Men of God and women in bible by johntredon: 7:49am On Sep 18, 2016
Let us look at how the Bible view women, and see in real Truth how terrible the women's status would be if they were living under a true Christian state that follows the Bible 100%.


1).Deuteronomy 22:28-30 "If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and
rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay the girl's father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives."

N:B:
One must ask a simple question here, who is really punished, the man who raped the woman or the woman who was raped? What is to prevent someone from finding the best looking woman in town, raping her, telling everyone about it, and then having the courts force her to be his wife for the rest of her life

Nigeria pastors can testify to it:

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/08/pastor-drugs-rapes-woman-seeking-prayer-solutions-problems/

https://newtelegraphonline.com/30-girls-rescued-pastors-sex-camp/

https://ukeyibio..com.ng/2016/09/pastor-found-with-13-underage-girls-as.html?m=1

https://michaeluzomamichael./2016/09/03/i-only-slept-with-6-out-of-the-30-underage-girls-lagos-pastor-confesses-photos/

http://www.newseveryhour.com/2016/08/prophet-has-sex-with-his-church-members.html


2).Exodus 21:7-8 "And in case a man should sell his daughter as a slave girl , she will not go out in the way that the slave men go out. If she is displeasing in the eyes of her master so that he doesn't designate her as a concubine but causes her to be redeemed, he will not be entitled to sell her to a foreign people in his treacherously dealing with her."

N:B:
Here in this verse we can see that fathers can easily and freely sell their daughters as slaves to other men. The other men are free to rape the daughters if they wish to do so.

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Re: Men of God and women in bible by johntredon: 8:06am On Sep 18, 2016
3). Jesus considers women as dirt that defiles men (since Jesus, the GOD, is the one who supposedly inspired the New Testament as Christians claim):

Revelation 14:4 "Those are those (men) who did not defile themselves with women , for they kept themselves pure. They follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They were purchased from among men and offered as first fruits to God and the Lamb.


4). Women are not only spiritually defiling to men as Jesus put it, but they're also physically defiling when they have their menses. Anything they touch becomes unclean:

Leviticus 15:19-30 "And if a woman have an issue (her period/menses), [and] her issue in her flesh be blood, she shall be put apart seven days: and whosoever toucheth her shall be unclean until the even. And every thing that she lieth upon in her separation shall be unclean: every thing also that she sitteth upon shall be unclean. And whosoever toucheth her bed shall wash his clothes, and bathe [himself] in water, and be unclean until the even. And whosoever toucheth any thing that she sat upon shall wash his clothes, and bathe [himself] in water, and be unclean until the even. And if it [be] on [her] bed, or on any thing whereon she sitteth, when he toucheth it, he shall be unclean until the even. And if any man lie with her at all, and her flowers be upon him, he shall be unclean seven days; and all the bed whereon he lieth shall be unclean. And if a woman have an issue of her blood many days out of the time of her separation, or if it run beyond the time of her separation; all the days of the issue of her uncleanness shall be as the days of her separation: she [shall be] unclean. Every bed whereon she lieth all the days of her issue shall be unto her as the bed of her separation: and whatsoever she sitteth upon shall be unclean, as the uncleanness of her separation. And whosoever toucheth those things shall be unclean, and shall wash his clothes, and bathe [himself] in water, and be unclean until the even. But if she be cleansed of her issue, then she shall number to herself seven days, and after that she shall be clean. And on the eighth day she shall take unto her two turtles, or two young pigeons, and bring them unto the priest, to the door of the tabernacle of the congregation. And the priest shall offer the one [for] a sin offering, and the other [for] a burnt offering; and the priest shall make an atonement for her before the LORD for the issue of her uncleanness."

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Re: Men of God and women in bible by Touchnot01: 8:22am On Sep 18, 2016
You need Jesus in your life. On a sunday morning when believers are going joyfully to the house of God, you wake up in hate and decide to hate against happy people.

Just dont die in hate.

For people who need the truth, you can get answers here:
www.gotquestions.org/God-Bible-sexist.html



Op, focus on being a better person. Winners focus on winning, losers focus on winners.

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Re: Men of God and women in bible by johntredon: 8:42am On Sep 18, 2016
Mr man stop saying rubbish instead to give explanation on what I said, you are saying rubbish.try again
Touchnot01:
You need Jesus in your life. On a sunday morning when believers are going joyfully to the house of God, you wake up in hate and decide to hate against happy people.

Just dont die in hate.

For people who need the truth, you can get answers here:
www.gotquestions.org/God-Bible-sexist.html



Op, focus on being a better person. Winners focus on winning, losers focus on winners.






















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Re: Men of God and women in bible by johntredon: 8:50am On Sep 18, 2016
5). If a woman gives birth to a baby boy, then she becomes unclean for 7 days. But if she gives birth to a baby girl, then she becomes unclean for 14 days.


N:B.So in other words, the birth of any female causes double the pollution:


Leviticus 12:2-5 "Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a woman have conceived seed, and born a MALE child: then she shall be unclean SEVEN DAYS; according to the days of the separation for her infirmity shall she be unclean. And in the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised. And she shall then continue in the blood of her purifying THIRTY THREE days; she shall touch no hallowed thing, nor come into the sanctuary, until the days of her purifying be fulfilled. But if she bear a FEMALE child, then she shall be unclean TWO WEEKS, as in her separation: and she shall continue in the blood of her purifying SIXTY SIX days."

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Re: Men of God and women in bible by Touchnot01: 8:59am On Sep 18, 2016
johntredon:
Mr man stop saying rubbish instead to give explanation on what I said, you are saying rubbish.try again
I'm saying rubbish, but you're not shey?
And you want me to explain your stupidity. Dey there

Im going to the house of God, to be joyful and glad, I hope you stop crying soon.
Re: Men of God and women in bible by johntredon: 9:12am On Sep 18, 2016
My question for you is that,are those verses were in Bible. Yes or no
Touchnot01:
I'm saying rubbish, but you're not shey?
And you want me to explain your stupidity. Dey there

Im going to the house of God, to be joyful and glad, I hope you stop crying soon.




















Re: Men of God and women in bible by johntredon: 6:49pm On Sep 18, 2016
6). If a woman tries to save her husband from a beating by grabbing the other man's private parts to lift him off her husband, then both her hands must get cut off:

Deuteronomy 25:11-12 "And in case men struggle together (in a fight) with one another, and the wife of the one has come near to deliver her husband out of the striking one (to save her husband), and she has thrust out her hand and grabbed hold of his private (the other man's groin), she must then get both her hands cut off, and the eyes of the men must feel no sorrow.
Re: Men of God and women in bible by ifenes(m): 6:53pm On Sep 18, 2016
It is obvious who wrote the bible. Men

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Re: Men of God and women in bible by johntredon: 6:25am On Sep 19, 2016
7). Leviticus 21:9 "And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the LovePeddler, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire. "


N:B- Why a priests daughter be burnt in fire just because her father is a priest if she decides to act like a LovePeddler? Is this fair? Should it make a difference whether or not a girl's father is a priest or not?

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Re: Men of God and women in bible by johntredon: 6:46pm On Sep 19, 2016
cool. Ecclesiastics 7:26-28 "And I find more bitter than death the woman who is a snare, whose heart is a trap and whose hands are chains. The man who pleases God will escape her, but the sinner she will ensnare....while I was still searching but not finding, I found one upright man among a thousand but not one upright woman among them all ".


N:B- The Bible claims that it is impossible to find a single good woman among a thousand women.
Re: Men of God and women in bible by johntredon: 6:29am On Sep 20, 2016
Recession has affected the Holy Spirit of this section, Christ-like are viewing but No explanation.

My question is that why Bible mistreated and against women?

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Re: Men of God and women in bible by larisoft: 7:10am On Sep 20, 2016
Lol...Reality indeed is a tricky thing. I'm sure that Christians reading this see nothing but more reasons to praise God-besides seeing a lot of reasons to think you are deranged. And they are sincere about it, trust me. Perception....Everything! No one can help it!

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Re: Men of God and women in bible by Scholar8200(m): 8:43am On Sep 20, 2016
johntredon:
3). Jesus considers women as dirt that defiles men (since Jesus, the GOD, is the one who supposedly inspired the New Testament as Christians claim):

Revelation 14:4 "Those are those (men) who did not defile themselves with women , for they kept themselves pure. They follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They were purchased from among men and offered as first fruits to God and the Lamb.


4). Women are not only spiritually defiling to men as Jesus put it, but they're also physically defiling when they have their menses. Anything they touch becomes unclean:
Who instituted marriage? When that passage talks about being defiled with women it is referring to fornication see the verse below:
Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.Hebrews 13:4

If we are to follow your misinterpretation, why were the apostles married?

Leviticus 15:19-30 "And if a woman have an issue (her period/menses), [and] her issue in her flesh be blood, she shall be put apart seven days: and whosoever toucheth her shall be unclean until the even. And every thing that she lieth upon in her separation shall be unclean: every thing also that she sitteth upon shall be unclean. And whosoever toucheth her bed shall wash his clothes, and bathe [himself] in water, and be unclean until the even. And whosoever toucheth any thing that she sat upon shall wash his clothes, and bathe [himself] in water, and be unclean until the even. And if it [be] on [her] bed, or on any thing whereon she sitteth, when he toucheth it, he shall be unclean until the even. And if any man lie with her at all, and her flowers be upon him, he shall be unclean seven days; and all the bed whereon he lieth shall be unclean. And if a woman have an issue of her blood many days out of the time of her separation, or if it run beyond the time of her separation; all the days of the issue of her uncleanness shall be as the days of her separation: she [shall be] unclean. Every bed whereon she lieth all the days of her issue shall be unto her as the bed of her separation: and whatsoever she sitteth upon shall be unclean, as the uncleanness of her separation. And whosoever toucheth those things shall be unclean, and shall wash his clothes, and bathe [himself] in water, and be unclean until the even. But if she be cleansed of her issue, then she shall number to herself seven days, and after that she shall be clean. And on the eighth day she shall take unto her two turtles, or two young pigeons, and bring them unto the priest, to the door of the tabernacle of the congregation. And the priest shall offer the one [for] a sin offering, and the other [for] a burnt offering; and the priest shall make an atonement for her before the LORD for the issue of her uncleanness."
Do show where in the NT or which Church today follows this. Besides, these are the ceremonial parts. Just like the issue of a person becoming defiled by touching dead body.

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Re: Men of God and women in bible by Scholar8200(m): 9:02am On Sep 20, 2016
So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself Ephesians 5:28

The elder women as mothers; the younger as sisters, with all purity. 1 timothy 5:2

And he shall be unto thee a restorer of thy life, and a nourisher of thine old age: for thy daughter in law, which loveth thee, which is better to thee than seven sons, hath born him. Ruth 4:15 (spoken in the OT).

10 Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies Proverbs 31:0 (OT) Meaning she is priceless!

Does God despise women? Did chauvinistic men 'write' the Bible?
4 And Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lapidoth, [size=15pt]she judged Israel at that time[/size].Judges 4:4
Re: Men of God and women in bible by johntredon: 4:43pm On Sep 20, 2016
Scholar8200:
Who instituted marriage? When that passage talks about being defiled with women it is referring to fornication .
[The verse does not say "those who did not defile themselves with fornication or adultery" . Have the verse said that, then it would've included both males and females and there would be nothing to disagree about. But the verse clearly and irrefutably says: "those who did not defile themselves with women ", which means:
(1) No females will be among those men; and
(2) Women are defiling to men.]
Scholar8200:

Do show where in the NT or which Church today follows this. Besides, these are the ceremonial parts.
[does it change the fact that those verses were in your Bible and if you people want to collect 10 percent monthly contribution (tithes) from the church members,they would quote verse from Malachi in Old Testament but when it comes to evils in Old Testament you people will distance themselves from Old Testament.]
Scholar8200:

Besides, these are the ceremonial parts.
ceremonial parts? try again Mr pastor
Re: Men of God and women in bible by johntredon: 5:02pm On Sep 20, 2016
9). If the husband dies without impregnating the wife, then the "brother" of the dead husband MUST marry his wife. The female CANNOT marry anyone else, but ONLY her dead husband's brother (DEUTERONOMY 25:5).

N:B- In Christianity, the woman has NO CHOICE, but to marry her dead husband's brother. It is clear which religion is oppressing women.
Re: Men of God and women in bible by Scholar8200(m): 5:26pm On Sep 20, 2016
johntredon:
[The verse does not say "those who did not defile themselves with fornication or adultery" . Have the verse said that, then it would've included both males and females and there would be nothing to disagree about. But the verse clearly and irrefutably says: "those who did not defile themselves with women ", which means:
(1) No females will be among those men; and
(2) Women are defiling to men.][does it change the fact that those verses were in your Bible and if you people want to collect 10 percent monthly contribution (tithes) from the church members,they would quote verse from Malachi in Old Testament but when it comes to evils in Old Testament you people will distance themselves from Old Testament.]ceremonial parts? try again Mr pastor
ok
Re: Men of God and women in bible by Scholar8200(m): 5:29pm On Sep 20, 2016
johntredon:
9). If the husband dies without impregnating the wife, then the "brother" of the dead husband MUST marry his wife. The female CANNOT marry anyone else, but ONLY her dead husband's brother (DEUTERONOMY 25:5).

N:B- [size=18pt]In Christianity[/size], the woman has NO CHOICE, but to marry her dead husband's brother. It is clear which religion is oppressing women.
Now show me a Christian Church where this was (among the early Church), has been(in Contemporary history), is being(at present) practiced today.
Re: Men of God and women in bible by johntredon: 6:19pm On Sep 20, 2016
Scholar8200:
Now show me a Christian Church where this was (among the early Church), has been(in Contemporary history), is being(at present) practiced today.

I don't need to show you anything in as much as those verses were evils you need to condemn it and stop accepting it as word of God. Let me give you an example:
In Deuteronomy 22:28-30 "If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and
rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay the girl's father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives."

The Holy Spirit has directed Nigeria pastors to implement the evil, e. g:

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/08/pastor-drugs-rapes-woman-seeking-prayer-solutions-problems/

https://newtelegraphonline.com/30-girls-rescued-pastors-sex-camp/

https://ukeyibio..com.ng/2016/09/pastor-found-with-13-underage-girls-as.html?m=1

https://michaeluzomamichael./2016/09/03/i-only-slept-with-6-out-of-the-30-underage-girls-lagos-pastor-confesses-photos/


Very soon now Holy Spirit will command them to implement other evils
Re: Men of God and women in bible by Scholar8200(m): 6:37pm On Sep 20, 2016
johntredon:

I don't need to show you anything in as much as those verses were evils you need to condemn it and stop accepting it as word of God.
meaning you have nothing to offer, so long!

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Re: Men of God and women in bible by johntredon: 7:01pm On Sep 20, 2016
10). Daughters inherit nothing when there are sons:

"If a man dies and leaves no son, turn his inheritance over to his daughter. Numbers 27:8
Re: Men of God and women in bible by adjoviomole(m): 6:02am On Sep 21, 2016
All you posted are the customs of the jews. It was recorded as part of history and the way of life of the jews.

We are not jews. And what pertains to us is that, love ur wife as urself.

Solomon also said, he dat findeth a wife,findeth a good thing,

So how can we condemn other ppl (jews) for practicing der culture and custom?
Re: Men of God and women in bible by johntredon: 6:54am On Sep 21, 2016
adjoviomole:
All you posted are the customs of the jews. It was recorded as part of history and the way of life of the jews.

We are not jews. And what pertains to us is that, love ur wife as urself.

Solomon also said, he dat findeth a wife,findeth a good thing,

So how can we condemn other ppl (jews) for practicing der culture and custom?
Jesus said he was sent to preach the Torah (Matt. 5:17-20), and that was the purpose of his mission (Luk. 4:43, 19:10, Mk. 1:38) He praised the Jewish Law (Matt. 23:23
Re: Men of God and women in bible by adjoviomole(m): 3:48pm On Sep 21, 2016
johntredon:

Jesus said he was sent to preach the Torah (Matt. 5:17-20), and that was the purpose of his mission (Luk. 4:43, 19:10, Mk. 1:38) He praised the Jewish Law (Matt. 23:23



What is torah? Abeg
Re: Men of God and women in bible by johntredon: 6:52pm On Sep 21, 2016
adjoviomole:




What is torah? Abeg
The book revealed to Moses from God
Re: Men of God and women in bible by johntredon: 7:01pm On Sep 21, 2016
11). It is clear that in Christianity, the very first woman is blamed for wrongdoing, but not the very first male.

1 Timothy 2:11-14

11 A woman[a] should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man;[b] she must be quiet. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.
Re: Men of God and women in bible by adjoviomole(m): 10:19pm On Sep 21, 2016
johntredon:
The book revealed to Moses from God


The 10 commandment shey? We are no longer in the time of the law n judgment, we are in the time of grace. During the time of the law, ppl caught in the act of adultery are stoned to death, but. When jesus came, he abolished that and instead wen a woman was caught in adultery and brot to him to be stoned to death, Jesus told the ppl dat bro her dat if der is anyone amongst dem who have nevr sinned, the person shld throw the 1st stone, but nobody could stone her because dey wer all guilty too. Jesus den told her dat he does nt condemn her,but she should go and sin no more.
Re: Men of God and women in bible by johntredon: 10:35pm On Sep 21, 2016
adjoviomole:



The 10 commandment shey? We are no longer in the time of the law n judgment, we are in the time of grace. During the time of the law, ppl caught in the act of adultery are stoned to death, but. When jesus came, he abolished that and instead wen a woman was caught in adultery and brot to him to be stoned to death, Jesus told the ppl dat bro her dat if der is anyone amongst dem who have nevr sinned, the person shld throw the 1st stone, but nobody could stone her because dey wer all guilty too. Jesus den told her dat he does nt condemn her,but she should go and sin no more.
can you tell me where Jesus said you should not follow the law in the Bible?
Re: Men of God and women in bible by adjoviomole(m): 10:39pm On Sep 21, 2016
johntredon:
can you tell me where Jesus said you should not follow the law in the Bible?

We are followers of Jesus the son of God and not moses.

Jesus said" I am the way the truth and the life, no man commeth unto the father (God) but by me. So since Jesus is the way, we don't need to start looking for a window when we have the key to the door (jesus)
Re: Men of God and women in bible by johntredon: 10:52pm On Sep 21, 2016
adjoviomole:


We are followers of Jesus the son of God and not moses.

Jesus said" I am the way the truth and the life, no man commeth unto the father (God) but by me. So since Jesus is the way, we don't need to start looking for a window when we have the key to the door (jesus)
Don't dodge my question, let me repeat it. Can you show me in the Bible where Jesus said you should not follow the law?
Re: Men of God and women in bible by adjoviomole(m): 9:21am On Sep 22, 2016
johntredon:

Don't dodge my question, let me repeat it. Can you show me in the Bible where Jesus said you should not follow the law?

Jeramiah 31:31-34
Behold, days are coming," declares the LORD,
"when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and
with the house of Judah, not like the covenant which I made
with their fathers in the day I took them by the hand to bring
them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke,
although I was a husband to them," declares the LORD. "But this
is the covenant which I will make with the house of Israel after
those days," declares the LORD, "I will put My law within them
and on their heart I will write it; and I will be their God, and they
shall be My people. They will not teach again, each man his
neighbor and each man his brother, saying, 'Know the LORD,'
for they will all know Me, from the least of them to the greatest
of them," declares the LORD, "for I will forgive their iniquity,
and their sin I will remember no more." "

We became dead to the
Old Law, so that we might be joined to a New Law (Romans
7:4-6).

the Old Law
was nailed to the cross (Colossians 2:14). In Ephesians 2:15, we
are told that it was put to death on the cross.

Hence the law change when Jesus was nailed to the cross. Thank you.

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