4everGod:
seaboi06 of course when truth hits you hard you degenerate to insults. So now i am stupid and crazy? You never chi chun chin yet.

Allah was a pagan idol of the Qureshi tribe and Muhammad came from that tribe. He imposed his family idol on every one else through war and conquest and not via love. He then put a clause that anyone who denounces him or allah should be put to death. No be me talk am o...Check your Quran.

How do you think an Almighty God would be painted in good light via all the nasty things mohammad is known for?

4everGod:



Now suddenly Allah knows best when hit with truth. Your Quran mentioned Jesus's Birth directly but the Bible which was years before your quran never for once mentioned Muhammad. John the baptist was mentioned and muhammad was not so if the bible could take out time to identify John the baptist then why not muhammad?

You say the bible never mentions categorically that Jesus is the son of God or even God himself and you believe that but the same Bible never mentioned muhammad categorically anywhere and you deny that and rather believe the muhammad part but not the Jesus part.

Please go and get busy with something else.

seaboi06:
He preached and they tried to kill him,do you know how many times he was wonded,how many times God sent angels to get his permission to destroy his enemy,he would said no am not here to curse them but to save them.........they brought war to him and he defended himself
if someone tried to kill you just let him okay,bcuz u be Godson,,,,do you know how many times he was turtured,how many of his friends where murdered by those idol worshippers?they would never tell you that because they won't want the truth
Look it's the last am gomna say here and am gonna unfollow but islam is a way of life,way you should eat,way you should drink,what you must eat and what you must not e.g it's been long that Muslims should not eat anything that has been touched by rat long b4 Ur doctors discovered Lassa fever also it's Haram for a Muslim to eat anything that has a taste for blood(eran give) when ebola came they told you to stop eating game....
Google search if the act of solat helps eyesight or not?
Muslims must not talk in the bathroom or toilet now science tell you not to bcuz there are bacteria there....just some many things
ways we should act.....
you should know that Ur religion have converts bcuz of the tasks in islam,and the effisy in Ur religion.
[size=20pt]you ever wonder why islam is the highest growing religion in the US and other countries bcuz it's the only religion that shows ways[/size]....mode of dressing etc
do pple rape woman in puddah(eleha),rather they rape those that shows there body all in the name of hot

muslim lady must not expose there body,breast etc,now science is telling the women to always cover their breast bcuz the sun radiation could cause cancer


look islam is a religion which shows its members a way to live healthy and peacefully.........you Christians enter church without covering Ur hair and when it's prayer time the look for handkerchief to cover head,who is deceiving who?



BYE MAN,KEEPING WORSHIPPING JESUS AND LET ME KEEP WORSHIPPING HIS CREATOR

seaboi06:
the Bible came b4 Muhammed nica,remember that
Muhammed is the last prophet and all the other prophets are mentioned in the Qu'ran...

seaboi06:
May Allah reward you much here and the life after brother.....I asked the op some questions but he only shun them and said another thread why can he just answer that,are isrealite Christians before Jesus came

alfarouq:
I have spent enough time on the religion section of nairaland for me to realise most of this Christians are unserious and arrogant which made me most times to ignore them, they are not arguing because they want to learn but just to arrogantly propagate their ignorance particularly anas09, annunaki, anansrk, 4everGod.
But for the sake of those who are sincere, let me explain what pagans believe.
All pagans including the ancient Arabs and the worshippers of sango, oya, amadioha, Moremi, and osun etc believe in the existence of the one and only true God. They all worship this deities because they believe that they will bring them closer to God and serve as intermediary.this is confirmed by the fact that if you ask any of them who created this world, who created them, they will respond God. None of them will say sango, oya, amadioha etc.
This is similar to what the Christians are doing but the Christians are even worse in that they are not only taking Jesus as an intermediary, they are also trying to make him an equal to God. If you ask a Christian who created this world, the answer is always God, they will never tell you its Jesus its only when you ask them that why are they not worshipping God, they will say God and Jesus are one, then ask them who created Jesus, they become tongue tied. To make matters worse when a Christian desires and pray for something he will always pray God grant me such but after his prayer is answered he will say thank you Jesus, If you ask why they say , its the same so why don't they pray to Jesus to grant them and when its granted they show their gratitude to God.
About the name abdullah, it means slave of Allah, and Allah is the Arabic word for God. Like I said, even though they are pagans, they believe in the existence of the Almighty.
They had 360 idols. So op why is it that it is only abdullah they had, why don't they name their children after the other Gods.
All at, man at and uzza are names of the Arab forefathers, they were rich and very philanthropic, they support the weak and fight the oppressors, after there death a portrait of them were first made to serve as remembrance and immortalize them, after the death of the generation that made their portraits, there own children carved the idols because they believed the statues were better than the portraits, the y did this but they did not worship them but there own descendants were deceived by Satan that there forefathers actually worshipped them and that was paganism became wide spread before Allah sent Muhammad pbuh to rid the land of idols.
This is just how paganism used to start, till today some people after losing a very close and caring relatives hang their pictures and when they are in danger, they believe such people are watching over them.

Anas09:

Did you say, Allat, Manat and Uzzah were Arabs Forefoathers? What??. So, they were not female deities? Pls stop doing this to yourself nah guy.

4everGod:



I deliberately ignored the guy as he was just all over the place with Taqiyya.

Anas09:

Did you say, Allat, Manat and Uzzah were Arabs Forefoathers? What??. So, they were not female deities? Pls stop doing this to yourself nah guy.

4everGod:



I deliberately ignored the guy as he was just all over the place with Taqiyya.

alfarouq:

You guys are damn funny, where did you here that they are female?

alfarouq:

You guys are damn funny, where did you here that they are female?

4everGod:


[b]1. Manat

The most ancient of all these idols was Manah. The Arabs used to name [their children] 'Abd-Manah and Zayd-Manah. Manah was erected on the seashore in the vicinity of al-Mushallal in Qudayd, between Medina and Mecca. All the Arabs used to venerate her and sacrifice before her. [In particular] the Aws and the Khazraj, as well as the inhabitants of Medina and Mecca and their vicinities, used to venerate Manah, sacrifice before her, and bring unto her their offerings. The Aws and the Khazraj, as well as those Arabs among the people of Yathrib and other places who took to their way of life, were wont to go on pilgrimage and observe the vigil at all the appointed places, but not shave their heads. At the end of the pilgrimage, however, when they were about to return home, they would set out to the place where Manah stood, shave their heads, and stay there a while. They did not consider their pilgrimage completed until they visited Manah.

2. al-Lat

Allat stood in al-Ta'if, and was more recent than Manah. She was a cubic rock beside which a certain Jew used to prepare his barley porridge (sawiq). Her custody was in the hands of the banu-'Attab ibn-Malik of the Thaqif, who had built an edifice over her. The Quraysh, as well as all the Arabs, were wont to venerate Allat. They also used to name their children after her, calling them Zayd-Allat and Taym-Allat. She stood in the place of the left-hand side minaret of the present-day mosque of al-Ta'if.

Allat continued to be venerated until the Thaqif embraced Islam, when muhammad dispatched al-Mughirah ibn-Shu'bab, who destroyed her and burnt her [temple] to the ground.

3. al-Uzza

She is, in point of time, more recent than either Allat or Manah. The Arabs named their children after the latter two before they named them after al-'Uzza. Her idol was situated in a valley in Nakhlat al-Sha'miyah called Hurad, alongside al-Ghumayr' to the right of the road from Mecca to al-'Iraq. Over her Zilim ibn-As'ad built a house called Buss in which the people used to receive oracular communications. The Arabs as well as the Quraysh were wont to name their children 'Abd-al-'Uzza. Furthermore al-'Uzza was the greatest idol among the Quraysh. They used to journey to her, offer gifts unto her, and seek her favours through sacrifice.

Ishaq:38 "Luhayy put Al-Uzza in a Nakhla Taghut. When they had finished their Ka'ba Hajj they circumambulated Al-Uzza. The Quraysh worshiped her. Manat was worshiped by the Aus and Khazraj in Yathrib."

Ishaq:39 Those who prayed to Al-Uzza and Manat, "shaved their heads and completed all of the rites associated with the Hajj."


4. Hubal

Hubal is an Aramaic word, meaning vapour or spirit. Some opinions favour an association of Hubal with Canaanite Ba'al. Others liken it it to Cybele. Bearing in mind that Q're was also an Arabian Goddess, the influence of Greece and Anatolia through Nabatea is a natural conclusion.

The Quraysh had also several idols in and around the Ka'bah. The greatest of these was Hubal. It was, as I was told, of red agate, in the form of a man with the right hand broken off. It came into the possession of the Quraysh in this condition, and they, therefore, made for it a hand of gold. The first to set it up [for worship] was Khuzaymah ibn-Mudrikah ibn-al-Ya's' ibn-Mudar. Consequently it used to be called Khuzaymah's Hubal.

It stood inside the Ka'bah. In front of it were seven divination arrows (sing. qidh, pl. qidah or aqduh). On one of these arrows was written "pure" (sarih), and on another "consociated alien" (mulsag). Whenever the lineage of a new-born was doubted, they would offer a sacrifice to it [Hubal] and then shuffle the arrows and throw them. If the arrows showed the word "pure," the child would be declared legitimate and the tribe would accept him. If, however, the arrows showed the words "consociated alien," the child would be declared illegitimate and the tribe would reject him. The third arrow was for divination concerning the dead, while the fourth was for divination concerning marriage. The purpose of the three remaining arrows has not been explained. Whenever they disagreed concerning something, or purposed to embark upon a journey, or undertake some project, they would proceed to it [Hubal] and shuffle the divination arrows before it. Whatever result they obtained they would follow and do accordingly.[/b]

alfarouq:

First of where do you get this your stories and claims about all at, man at and uzza
Secondly, I don't see you saying or showing anything with regards to Allah or your current source doesn't contain any lies about Allah
Thirdly, the ancient Arabs despise and look down female so much that if their wives give birth to a female child, they buried the child alive until Muhammad pbuh spoke and prohibited it.
Having said this, if your source is so dumb, I expect you to know better that a person that have not respect for the female folk will not worship her.
And please, I left a link for you in my previous link, may be you can go through it and let's know what you think

lexiconkabir:


Salaam brother, you can also ask them questions from this below link, dem think say na only them sabi copy and paste

http://www.answering-christianity.com/60_questions_to_christians.htm

4everGod:


I can see you did not even bother to read this thread from the beginning. If you did then your would not be asking some questions here. Allah has been extensively dealt with on this thread so do yourself a favour and go through it.

Also your link and the thread is dead on arrival especially since you opened it on the 6th of August with nobody being interested so stop trying to use me to give life to a dead thread.

Word of advice: since you are already on this thread do read it...it will cure a lot of ignorance left in you

Anas09:

I just noticed that muslims dont discuss their koran amongst themselves as we do the Bible here. We discuss our faith extensively, but the muslims just argue with us without any discussions.

these people are so dead. They depend only on what their imams tell them.

4everGod:


My sister my foray into their section left me speechless and that was the reason why i chose not to continue with that thread there even after taking their lousy oath with this moniker to gain access to my own thread.

That section is DEAD. A graveyard is more alive compared to that section. I literately could hear crickets chirping in that section. Even they find their own section too boring to stay in or even visit.

Let them keep deceiving themselves..we dey here to dey help dem see the truth one by one.

4everGod:


I can see you did not even bother to read this thread from the beginning. If you did then your would not be asking some questions here. Allah has been extensively dealt with on this thread so do yourself a favour and go through it.

Also your link and the thread is dead on arrival especially since you opened it on the 6th of August with nobody being interested so stop trying to use me to give life to a dead thread.

Word of advice: since you are already on this thread do read it...it will cure a lot of ignorance left in you

Anas09:


Everyone who has been there say the same thing. But for Christians, religion section would be dead.
No atheists topics amongst themselves, no inter-muslim discussions.
Thank God am a Chriatian.

alfarouq:

That's where you got it wrong, a Muslim should do things for the sake of Allah alone, not because of fame or other material benefits involved, I opened the thread so that people who want to learn could benefit, whether people cment or not as long as their is sincerity of purpose, its alright

4everGod:


Apart from the stickied topic in their section that is for newbies in Islam which is about 61 pages every other thread there is just 1 or 2 pages log and most of what you see is Allahakbar or some other shit

4everGod:



I deliberately ignored the guy as he was just all over the place with Taqiyya.

4everGod:



I deliberately ignored the guy as he was just all over the place with Taqiyya.

4everGod:

Take the thread to your section and discus it there...Do you need me to visit and comment on a thread before others would be interested? Or you want to spark a debate on the thread so it would attract attention? I think both options are your reasons for tagging me but sorry i decline.
We drop truths and facts while you are busy making comparisons on Taqiyya.
Please do not mention me again until you grow up.

4everGod:

Take the thread to your section and discus it there...Do you need me to visit and comment on a thread before others would be interested? Or you want to spark a debate on the thread so it would attract attention? I think both options are your reasons for tagging me but sorry i decline.
We drop truths and facts while you are busy making comparisons on Taqiyya.
Please do not mention me again until you grow up.

alfarouq:

Invade you have forgotten let me remind you, you were the first to lay the allegation of taqiyya. The funny aspect of it there is no single verse in the Quran which encouraged it but Mr paul in your bible not only encouraged he also glorified it.
Let me give you a piece you an advice, those who live in a glass house, do not throw stones.
And besides did Paul encouraged taqiyya or not.

alfarouq:

First of where do you get this your stories and claims about all at, man at and uzza
Secondly, I don't see you saying or showing anything with regards to Allah or your current source doesn't contain any lies about Allah
Thirdly, the ancient Arabs despise and look down female so much that if their wives give birth to a female child, they buried the child alive until Muhammad pbuh spoke and prohibited it.
Having said this, if your source is so dumb, I expect you to know better that a person that have not respect for the female folk will not worship her.
And please, I left a link for you in my previous link, may be you can go through it and let's know what you think

rhektor:


Mohammed's father is Abdul Talib = servant/slave of Allah, this means that Mohammed did not bring a new concept of God to Arab as Allah has been one of their God's.

My verdict is : muslims has been deceiving the world that the Arabs rejected Mohammed's Allah, NO. What they rejected was Mohammed exalting one their gods (his father's god) over all other gods in the land.

WORDWORLD:


IN SHA ALLAH. I PRAY SINCERELY THAT IT HAS PROFOUND EFFECT OF PURITY TO THOSE WHO READ IT SO THAT THOSE WHOSE EMMAN IS WEAK BECOMES STRONGER THOSE DROWNING IN THEIR OCEAN OF DOUBT ARE RESCUED AND THOSE WHO ARE LOST FIND THEIR WAY BACK HOME.

Nafizzey:
I always enjoy reading your posts. Can't wait for the book. Let me know when it's out brother

God bless