blackpanda:



And what makes the actions of the DSS illegal? Pls name one single law that they violated Lets not be swept away by eratic emotions. There is no immunity for judges outside the court room!

The constitution is man made, because of that it is likely not to cover every aspect of human lives, especially a coountry run by such very foolish, tribalistic, religious, one side blind stark illitrate and bed bug president with ceiling fan-like ears. Any normal human being should know that going to arrest people like the supreme court judges in mid of the night when he can still be arresred early in the morning is devilish. The so called trillions of monies discovred were not pictuured. Are you saying the Buhari and his apc members are an inch reliable? If some one had died, the same Buhari would have turned the story more suitable and in favour of him. Who does not know what apc stands for when it come to lying and propaganda?

Una see corruption fighting back desperately. .......What saddens me most are the perpetually poverty stricken ppl that lose their mind defending these thieves.

I am not surprised . . . some of them are a product of the decay in the judiciary!

amaechi1:
In the first place, the president does not unilateral power to sack a judge without recommendation from NJC. So, what law due they want to make?

But GEJ sack justice Salami.

ISTANDWITHBUHAR:


But GEJ sack justice Salami.

Salami was sacked by the NJC and not GEJ

Provided they are not corrupt judges and the ones many of them are bribing to get judgments that are favorable to them in the many cases they have

kcnwaigbo:

Salami was sacked by the NJC and not GEJ

https://www.nairaland.com/741316/president-jonathan-sacked-justice-salami



http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/151762-exclusive-ex-cjn-writes-jonathan-accuses-president-unjustly-treating-justice-salami.html/amp


Don't come with the we voted for Buhari to right the wrong

amaechi1:
In the first place, the president does not unilateral power to sack a judge without recommendation from NJC. So, what law due they want to make?

I just tire! They think buhari would do what gej did to ayo salami.

freeze001:


And who told you any money was recovered? Where is the evidence? Some typed up figures on a sheet of paper? Nothing counts until it's subjected to the neutral process of a trial and resultant judgment. I[b]s that nit the reason we have been told by Buhari and handlers t[b]hat monies supposedly recovered from looters cannot be announced to the public with names attached or used to fund any FG projects because they are subject of litigation? [/b]

Let the DSS charge them to court and tender their evidence then we can talk. Point to note, the moment it is endorsed that the end justifies the means, the society as we know it would have degenerated into a lawless society equal only to a jungle where only the strong survive. The fact that ur child must eat to survive and not go hungry does not mean u will tear his/her stomach open to put the food in faster and more directly, that is guaranteed murder! Even if the child is crying, u must cook/prepare whatever meal, it must cool down to a palatable temperature and even then u will not push d food through the nose, the child must eat properly. Still indigestion might pose a problem which u must still resolve for nutrition and subsequent survival to be achieved.

U know of this yet when people are attacking PMB about the recovered money that he should use it and fix the economy Bla Bla Bla... ... U (lawyers) never care to enlighten the public.

I will encourage to support PMB especially in fight for corruption. So far am impressed with him. I didn't vote for him to perform magic

I am not suprîsed at ur comment because it is always characterised by ur hatred for PMB. PMB is not controlling the judiciary in any way. Its on record that njc has not lived up to its expectatn. 2014 till date all petitions brought against some of these jugdes were never treated by njc. People like u can no longer sing the usual anthem of witch-hunting. Now its intimidating or control. So when there is a serious allegation against a jurge and strong evidence, while NJC is draging his feet on the matter within which time those huge monies could be relocated. How would u now get evidence to nab them just because njc refused to act on time. One thing i know is that God that used Abacha to fulfil one purpose in nigeria will make PMB to fulfil a major purpose and breathrough in nigeria wheither people like u like it or not. I dont know why people want to colour their suport for corruption in different formats. SHAME.

kcnwaigbo:

The supreme court judges through the NJC has stated that only the NJC can discipline judges,better tell Buhari that his attempt to control the judiciary under the guise of fighting corruption has failed

[[s]quote author=Abcka811 post=50190372]The constitution is man made, because of that it is likely not to cover every aspect of human lives, especially a coountry run by such very foolish, tribalistic, religious, one side blind stark illitrate and bed bug president with ceiling fan-like ears. Any normal human being should know that going to arrest people like the supreme court judges in mid of the night when he can still be arresred early in the morning is devilish. The so called trillions of monies discovred were not pictuured. Are you saying the Buhari and his apc members are an inch reliable? If some one had died, the same Buhari would have turned the story more suitable and in favour of him. Who does not know what apc stands for when it come to lying and propaganda?[/quote][/s]

Eyah! U seem so pained

iyke484real:
one more time, do some inquiries about what it takes to arrest nd prosecute a judge nd then get back to me with your appologies for being gullible. thank you.

U welcome

kcnwaigbo:

The so called existing cases against judges cleared by the NJC will not see the light of the day.You can take yesterday's NJC communiqué as the position of the supreme court since it is still the members of the NJC that will adjudicate the cases at the supreme court.

Buhari is not interested in fighting corruption in the judiciary, he has been amongst those trying to corrupt the judiciary through corrupt judges like Okon Abang.He is only interested in going after judges who ruled against him or the APC

YOUR OPINION. PUT IT IN YOUR POCKET.

freeze001:

And who told you any money was recovered? Where is the evidence? Some typed up figures on a sheet of paper? Nothing counts until it's subjected to the neutral process of a trial and resultant judgment. Is that nit the reason we have been told by Buhari and handlers that monies supposedly recovered from looters cannot be announced to the public with names attached or used to fund any FG projects because they are subject of litigation?
Let the DSS charge them to court and tender their evidence then we can talk. Point to note, the moment it is endorsed that the end justifies the means, the society as we know it would have degenerated into a lawless society equal only to a jungle where only the strong survive. The fact that ur child must eat to survive and not go hungry does not mean u will tear his/her stomach open to put the food in faster and more directly, that is guaranteed murder! Even if the child is crying, u must cook/prepare whatever meal, it must cool down to a palatable temperature and even then u will not push d food through the nose, the child must eat properly. Still indigestion might pose a problem which u must still resolve for nutrition and subsequent survival to be achieved.

How else, can the matter at hand, be more explicitly, explained, than this?

A really beautiful brain.

All your posts here have been so refreshingly, educative and to the point.

df2006:


How else, can the matter at hand, be more explicitly, explained, than this?

A really beautiful brain.

All your posts here have been so refreshingly, educative and to the point.

Thank you.

freeze001:


I will answer on the premise that the judge in question is guilty. Remember it may not always the case even though the police says so.

Murder has no bearing on his profession and does not fall within the description of professional misconduct but can bring the profession into disrepute.
He can be arrested in the course ofthe commission of any crime without recourse to the NJC. In other words, if the story of seeing a judge on cctv collecting money is true, the police would have been perfectly in order to arrest him and all others involved on the spot. The question will now be to connect the collection of such money and the parties involved to any case for which the judge may be influenced and whether any judgment to that effect has in fact occasioned a miscarriage of justice ie if judgement had been given and he was then 'taking his reward'.

However, if any criminal matter is as a result of suspicion and subsequent investigation, the NJC must be involved because it is important to strip him of his office before trial commences. In other words, with the evidence before the NJC they will suspend d erring judge and recommend him for dismissal and prosecution.

1. It amounts first to professional misconduct and then a crime. By reason of being a judge he is subject first to the NJC. So he must first be disassociated from the profession by the NJC before the criminal aspect of his offence is prosecuted.

2. Yes, the police can investigate crime. Note that the DSS is not the police. They have a different and clearly spelled out mandate which has nothing to do with professional misconduct, corrupt practices of public officers or financial crimes/inducements unless related to terrorism matters.

3. No, they are not under immunity from prosecution. See answer to question 1 for statutory procedures.

4. Yes, the police can arrest on suspicion of crime.

However, the nature of the judiciary and the sensitive jobs of judges requires the extra procedure of internal disciplinary measures which ensures the independence of the Judiciary which is the bedrock of every democracy. The simple reason is that the police cannot arrest and detain indefinitely. The arrested person is required by law to be brought before a court in the interest of justice and fair hearing. If the police bring a serving judge before a fellow judge, that is an anomaly and aberration which the law frowns against.

The police cannot also strip him of his office, that is the role of the NJC which recommends such an erring officer for dismissal to the appointing Governor or President as the case may be. A high court judge will naturally be intimidated by having to stand in judgment over a Supreme Court judge like the CJN or Chief Judge for instance who probably swore him into office so to remove that possible fear of intimidation, the erring judge must lose that office first. Seniority at the bar and bench is not toyed with and respect for same is ingrained even from law school and subsequent practice.

It is just like a police officer caught taking bribe. He must first be subjected to an orderly room trial and dismissed for professional misconduct and then he is prosecuted for bribery and corruption.

God bless you, Sir.

freeze001:


Are the members of the Legislature not also elected by the people?

But who chose the leaders for them, they are the square peg in a round hole of Nigeria democracy, corruption is what link them with the judiciary nothing more. Who chose Judiciary leaders? Just asking

fmlala:


But who chose the leaders for them, they are the square peg in a round hole of Nigeria democracy, corruption is what link them with the judiciary nothing more. Who chose Judiciary leaders? Just asking

Honestly I can't make head or tail of your questions. Perhaps if u clarify...

Right step in right direction. If this is not done now, it could spell doom for our democracy.

I am sorry it has taken me this long to reply. Long standing practice is good law so I am quite comfortable with the point you raise. Taslim Elias' case is a happy outlier. Happy in the sense that he was an excellent jurist and an outlier in the sense that his case is unlikely to ever be repeated. He was head and shoulders above the legal practitioners of the day and his metaphoric rise was unprecedented even with the ICJ to which he later ascended. Darnley Alexander's appointment was also unusual as he was not even Nigerian by nationality. It would be merely convenient for us to use the appointment of these two excellent gentlemen as a basis for giving the President powers outside of usual practice. What Presidents do is to stack the courts with judges they consider sympathetic and to allow normal progression lead to the appointment of the " right" CJ. This happens in the US. So to discover executive intervention the right place to look would be appointments to the SC and not elevation from the ranks of the SC Judges.

With respects.

Since then seniority has guided the appointment of the CJ

freeze001:
On the contrary, it is a matter of long standing practice that brings the most senior supreme Court justice as the CJN. The constitution does not provide that d CJN must be the mist senior. It is on record that Taslim Elias was appointed CJN from the bar, he was never a Judge in Nigeria until he was appointed CJN. Before then he was Attorney General of the Federation.

The implication is that barring practice the President can choose to appoint someone else and rather try to strong arm and intimidate the NJC into recommending his choice for his appointment. It is best to nip that possibility in the bud.