maybe biomes2001 can explain better, ?

nuclearboy:

Joagbaje is a pastor at Christ Embassy. I suppose then that he is relatively close to the "top" i.e. Chris Oyakilome of CE. I expect him or one of the others in his "close to the top" position, to alert Oyaks to all the embarrassment being caused the body of Christ by the things been bandied about them all over. Doing something to "correct" the situation would be tantamount to "support" for the Name of Christ. As it is (as they're quiet about it all), it shows a disrespect for whatever is said suggesting that they are "above" all others and so infallible and beyond correction!

my bro dont be surprised Joagbaje MAY be a freemason,maybe thats why he is blindly defending his "god" oyaks,despite the fact that his superficial response to my robust evidence is demeaning his personality and questioning the constitution of his IQ, any way if oyak claims he  is innocent let him come out openly on T.V/radio and denounce the allegations and condemn freemasonry.But I bet u he can NEVER do that,because they made him,if he renounces them publicly,they ll screw him they way the screwed Jimmy Swaggart,Mike Tyson and tried to screw Billy Graham when he tried to break free from their clutches!!!

InesQor:

What I am trying to say is that there is a possibility, no matter how slight, that it's a set of coincidences.

There are many civilizations unknown, I am certain there are many secret societies that have not been uncovered by conspiracy theories, and so on.

How do you know that simple gestures you make every day when you greet your daughter or little sister are not ancient symbolic gestures of some remote civilization, aimed at worshipping some esoteric god or spirit?

I think with such gestures, the intents are most important. As to intents, I do not know why these people did what they did, but I would not be quick to point fingers  (pun intended) at them either.

In as much as I said earlier,(thats if indeed u read my statements earlier),that so many pple copy these gestures innocently,yet that does nt exculpate the real culprits when the flash those signals, whether u believe it or not,it does nt change the fact that what is remains what it is!

Africankel:

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^^^ Brother:

Based on what you've said here on them saying of themselves "I AM THAT I AM", I know Joagbaje is not a FreeMason. If he was, he'd be saying he was his own god and not chris oyakilome.

What you've written above (to Inesqor) makes sense when you say our belief (or absense of it) changes not the reality. But it also applies to your belief if you are wrong. So please let me ask you - the only way I think you can prove these allegations is if yourself, you are/were one of them. Were you a freemason? What manner of proof aside these hand "gestures" do you have?

Please remember I am NOT saying you're wrong. But in courts of truth, men are innocent till proved guilty NO MATTER what the feeling of on-lookers is.

Twould be so nice Oyakilome condemned them publicly. But I'll wager a lot that he will never do so. Why, I wonder!

nuclearboy:

^^^ Brother:

Based on what you've said here on them saying of themselves "I AM THAT I AM", I know Joagbaje is not a FreeMason. If he was, he'd be saying he was his own god and not chris oyakilome.

What you've written above (to Inesqor) makes sense when you say our belief (or absense of it) changes not the reality. But it also applies to your belief if you are wrong. So please let me ask you - the only way I think you can prove these allegations is if yourself, you are/were one of them. Were you a freemason? What manner of proof aside these hand "gestures" do you have?

Please remember I am NOT saying you're wrong. But in courts of truth, men are innocent till proved guilty NO MATTER what the feeling of on-lookers is.

Twould be so nice Oyakilome condemned them publicly. But I'll wager a lot that he will never do so. Why, I wonder!

I've studied freemasonry,Illuminati and Vatican activities for over 19years now. I knw how they operate. Besides dad used to belong to a secret society(but no mention) for over 35years b4 he repented, as u can see,I 've the background.I can smell a cultist from a million miles. However u can hardly get hardcopy evidence cos secret society activities are conducted in utmost secrecy and under the pain of death if revealed. However that witches confession exposing oyaks,oyedepo,Joshua et al is also instructive,if u need a hardcopy.Her testimonies corroborates my evidence,afterall I never met her b4.But though in different ways,yet she and I are sayin one thing, these men are satanic. But I repeat,neither Oyaks or the others can come publicly and denounce freemasonry,cos that ll mean there end, the best bet for them,as they are doin now,is graveyard silence, !!

sleekymag:

Whilst pictures of other people posted so far, might have some form of masonic symbol as claimed by some of you, the pic(s) of Bishop Oyedepo does not in anyway resemble any of the other signs. So why rub his name with the others, and using baseless arguments such as "he's a friend of copeland, so he must be one of them", abi am i missing something in that symbol of his? to me, it doesn't look like that of the others, and the confession of untrustworthy people should not hold water, for those quoting confessions of erelu agbaye et al.

o boy stop bein naive,go and take a better look at those pix again,u'll see better. Know that the kind of friends u keep ,always reveals the kind of person u are,remember "bad company corrupts good character", so says the bible,not me!

biomes2001:

I've studied freemasonry,Illuminati and Vatican activities for over 19years now. I knw how they operate. Besides dad used to belong to a secret society(but no mention) for over 35years b4 he repented, as u can see,I 've the background.I can smell a cultist from a million miles.

@biolmes2001,
if you indeed have studied this for over 19yrs, how come hand signs is the best you can come up with?
that your dad was a cultist, doesnt make every other person one. you are even secretive for not saying what cult your old boy belonged; what then do you expect from other people.

@Africankel
Have a wonderful birthday, may this day mark the beginning of a better tomorrow in Jesus name.

Africankel:

Dearly beloved, rejoice with me as I start off a new year in my life 2moro June 8th. . . Its my buffday. 08033920091

Happy buffday Kel!

biomes2001:

I've studied freemasonry,Illuminati and Vatican activities for over 19years now. I knw how they operate. Besides dad used to belong to a secret society(but no mention) for over 35years b4 he repented, as u can see,I 've the background.I can smell a cultist from a million miles. However u can hardly get hardcopy evidence cos secret society activities are conducted in utmost secrecy and under the pain of death if revealed. However that witches confession exposing oyaks,oyedepo,Joshua et al is also instructive,if u need a hardcopy.Her testimonies corroborates my evidence,afterall I never met her b4.But though in different ways,yet she and I are sayin one thing, these men are satanic. But I repeat,neither Oyaks or the others can come publicly and denounce freemasonry,cos that ll mean there end, the best bet for them,as they are doin now,is graveyard silence, !!

o boy stop bein naive,go and take a better look at those pix again,u'll see better. Know that the kind of friends u keep ,always reveals the kind of person u are,remember "bad company corrupts good character", so says the bible,not me!

You are revealing yourself gradually . So your father was a cultist. No wonder. You see everybody in that light. It is evident the demons of those cults are not yet cast out. Are you born again now? No" of course because you are yet in a cult yourself . From your new thread on sabbbath, it Shows you are a member of the cult called 7th Day Adventist which was also an offshoot of Jehovahs witness . And you are calling those who's message should have led you to salvation cultist.

Joagbaje;

In the interest of peace, truth and for the edification of the Children of God, your pastor should come out publicly and denounce FreeMasonry as evil, devilish and not appealing to him. That would -

[1] Shut up "Biomes2001
[2] Ensure that those here who are tempted to follow his line of reasoning repent of the "false accusation"
[3] Give credence to his status before Christ as at least, a non cultist

I still believe your chris is likely innocent of THIS charge. but he could settle it easily. Talk to him.

Many thanks to you all. . . Special thanks to nuclearboy and SirJohn, God bless u mightily

biomes2001:

o boy stop bein naive,go and take a better look at those pix again,u'll see better. Know that the kind of friends u keep ,always reveals the kind of person u are,remember "bad company corrupts good character", so says the bible,not me!

bio-mess or whatever ur name is, what's being naive about my observation? can u explain how the two pictures of oyedepo clearly shows the masonic symbols like you've shown of the others? except my eyes are deceiving me, they don't look near any of those signs except you are just being mischevious and want to derail people's judgments. infact babaearly noticed it and commented on it but u ignored dat post (page 4)

@ babaearly

@biomes2001

That last one didnt just not look like it.

below are the two pictures you put in page 4 of this thread,

Infact, to use your analogy, the fact that your father was a cultist for 35years meant over time he must have indoctrinated you and initiated you and your siblings into cultism, when you are not sure of something its wisest to keep your mouth shut.

WOW,

You guys need to lay off biomes2001, things are not always the way we think they are, there are mysteries that only those in the know can figure out. While these two photos might not portray him as one of "those guys", the design of his Church clearly points the other way:

ogajim:

WOW,

You guys need to lay off biomes2001, things are not always the way we think they are, there are mysteries that only those in the know can figure out. While these two photos might not portray him as one of "those guys", the design of his Church clearly points the other way:

But to use these pictures as proof against him is a deliberate act of manipulating readers not observant enough,

how does the design of his church indicate his being a freemason, ?any symbols there that correlate? It's usually wiser to stick to issues being discussed and not throw unfounded allegations, or false evidence.

Sleekymag:


Take a GE tour of the whole campus and report back dude, these designs/signs have become almost unnoticeable due to their heavy use everywhere we look. I don't want to scare you but they are everywhere not only in Nigeria but the World over yet many are not aware of their true meanings.

@ ogajim,

I'm not the least bit scared, y should i? i have toured the whole campus many times over and i don't know of any design/sign, maybe you could help by stating what you noticed, and we can start from there.

Howbeit, i am not ignorant of the fact that the world is saturated with agents of the devil disguised most times as harmless, or raves of the moment stuff. But i'd like to know the specifics you have against the man, rather than unfounded allegations supported by a bias against him.

@Ogajim:

Twould be really nice you let us know these symbols at CU. Denver airport has had a lot of controversy over the new "anubis" stature being set up there in addition to many others that had been there in the past. It would be nice to know what our people here are putting up. I for my part, have never visited Oyedepo's churches or school(s) so have no idea so I'd really love to know whats there.

nice one nuclearboy. if there's any, let's know.

ogajim:

Sleekymag:
Take a GE tour of the whole campus and report back dude, these designs/signs have become almost unnoticeable due to their heavy use everywhere we look. I don't want to scare you but they are everywhere not only in Nigeria but the World over yet many are not aware of their true meanings.

sleekymag:

@ ogajim,

I'm not the least bit scared, y should i? i have toured the whole campus many times over and i don't know of any design/sign, maybe you could help by stating what you noticed, and we can start from there.

Howbeit, i am not ignorant of the fact that the world is saturated with agents of the devil disguised most times as harmless, or raves of the moment stuff. But i'd like to know the specifics you have against the man, rather than unfounded allegations supported by a bias against him.

All the buildings at CU were symbols . Some hostels had the design of pentagram when you look at it from space or google earth . But from the ground level you will not notice this. But this does not by any means relate to cultism. They were Jewish symbols embedded in the architectural masterpiece. The symbol of the pentagram is also the Jewish symbol of the star of David. Other design were 7 lampstands 3 lampstands etc .

@Joagbaje:

You just spoiled everything and confirmed biomes2001 as knowing what he is saying. I never would have believed a MOG would use a pentagram in ANYWAY on his campus whether decorative or not. Now its obvious something is definitely wrong with this oyedepo cat.

[size=13pt]First your assertion of the pentagram being the Star of David. Thats is a LIE! The Pentagram is a five sided star whist the star of David is a six sided (Hexagram) star.[/size]

Whist the Star of David is todays symbol of Judaism and has become a badge of honor for Israelis through the world, the Pentagram is the wiccan symbol. BTW, wiccans are the society of witchcraft.

See below references

Pentagrams were used symbolically in ancient Greece and Babylonia, and are used today as a symbol of faith by many Wiccans
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagram

Pentagram - Symbol used in Witchcraft. Represents the elements, earth, wind, fire and water with the spirit surrounding them.
www.exposingsatanism.org/signsymbols.htm

The Pentagram and Pentacle are commonly the most famous symbols of Witchcraft, and are symbolic of the power of Spirit as the overriding power
www.controverscial.com/Pentagram%20-%20Pentacle.htm

It is usually attached to a Ram's head. I hope Joagbaje knows the symbolism of a Ram's head in the Bible!

Star of David

In Kabbalah, the Star of David symbolizes the six directions of space plus the center, under the influence of the description of space
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_of_David

It is a Hexagram.

Star of David - Magen David
Star The Magen David (shield of David, or as it is more commonly known, the Star of David) is the symbol most commonly associated with Judaism today
www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/star.html

Today the Star of David is a universally recognized symbol of Jews. It appears on the flag of the state of Israel
If truly, hostels and buildings in CU are five sided, there is definitely something wrong with Oyedepo and I do not need hand signals to know what he is into is worse than FreeMasonry.

Joagbaje:

All the buildings at CU were symbols . Some hostels had the design of pentagram when you look at it from space or google earth . But from the ground level you will not notice this. But this does not by any means relate to cultism. They were Jewish symbols embedded in the architectural masterpiece. The symbol of the pentagram is also the Jewish symbol of the star of David. Other design were 7 lampstands 3 lampstands etc .

Were or are? are u saying they r no longer there? while i disagree with you on the pentagram issue, (btw did u fly a helicopter to see the buildings from aerial view?), the architectural masterpiece definitely has some complex designs, but assuming they are/were pentagrams would not be correct. Google even has some pictures of CU and faith tabernacle, here are some pictures below. can u conclude they are pentagrams because of the multi-dimensions?

from this Google earth picture (its the aerial photo of covenant university), one can see two stars of David (not pentagrams), note like nuclearboy said, the star of david is symbolic with Israel and not pentagrams which is associated with freemasons.

@biomes2001,

"I've studied freemasonry,Illuminati and Vatican activities for over 19years now. I knw how they operate."

Following your 19 years study of the activities of freemasonry, illuminati and Vatican activities, I believe you have a real good knowledge of them all.

The Catholic Church is supposedly the oldest Christian institution existing today and claims to be Apostolic i.e. stemming directly from the apostles. If this is correct, that means at a point in time they were truly the church of Christ (the Church was pretty much one until Luther's Reformation). kindly help me to understand at what point they became occultic.

This might be of help to me in forming my opinions.

Thank you SleekyMag. I was scared (and disappointed at Oyedepo) when Joagbaje said he used Pentagrams on his campus.

Obviously another rush to show his "extraordinary" kingdom revelation has ended with his foot entering inside his mouth (as usual).

Pentagram ko, Pentacle ni!

You are welcome Nuclearboy, One just has to be alert, cos its very easy to buy wrong information without doing more personal research/study. We keep learning everyday.

nuclearboy:

Thank you SleekyMag. I was scared (and disappointed at Oyedepo) when Joagbaje said he used Pentagrams on his campus.

Obviously another rush to show his "extraordinary" kingdom revelation has ended with his foot entering inside his mouth (as usual).

Pentagram ko, Pentacle ni!

Good one SleekyMag, this is the kind of evidence I was expecting from the likes of Biomes2001.

sleekymag:

Were or are? are u saying they r no longer there? while i disagree with you on the pentagram issue, (btw did u fly a helicopter to see the buildings from aerial view?), the architectural masterpiece definitely has some complex designs, but assuming they are/were pentagrams would not be correct. Google even has some pictures of CU and faith tabernacle, here are some pictures below. can u conclude they are pentagrams because of the multi-dimensions?

forgive jare, 5 sided star 6 sided star. My mistake. But if you read my post well , Even if it's five sided star. I believe in the ministry of David Oyedepo as a man of God. Whatever design it was is to the glory of God. Using Jewish symbol. I thought the pentagram is 5 sided anyway.

nuclearboy:

Thank you SleekyMag. I was scared (and disappointed at Oyedepo) when Joagbaje said he used Pentagrams on his campus.

Obviously another rush to show his "extraordinary" kingdom revelation has ended with his foot entering inside his mouth (as usual).

Pentagram ko, Pentacle ni!

kí ló n se this school BOY? always looking for trouble

I can only say back to school for those who can't see the obvious symbols from the images posted by nuclearboy and others before him.

There are folks who will tell you there is nothing to worry about the denver airport symbols and stuff but one has to KNOW that these things don't happen by accident, these are DELIBERATE and serve (or will serve a purpose).

As Christians, we should be very careful and watchful for the things we think are there to "glorify" him actually does the opposite, trust no one but God only.

## Don't get me wrong, I don't know anything about Oyedipo's church but I have seen a "few" stuff about his 'mentor' KC and we are often judged by the company we keep if I must add.

ogajim:

I can only say back to school for those who can't see the obvious symbols from the images posted by nuclearboy and others before him.

There are folks who will tell you there is nothing to worry about the denver airport symbols and stuff but one has to KNOW that these things don't happen by accident, these are DELIBERATE and serve (or will serve a purpose).

As Christians, we should be very careful and watchful for the things we think are there to "glorify" him actually does the opposite, trust no one but God only.

## Don't get me wrong, I don't know anything about Oyedipo's church but I have seen a "few" stuff about his 'mentor' KC and we are often judged by the company we keep if I must add.

I assume dats Kenneth Copeland you're referring to?

That guy is a real life example of a wolf in sheep's clothing.

petres_007:

I assume dats Kenneth Copeland you're referring to?

That guy is a real life example of a wolf in sheep's clothing.

I could'nt agree any less

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When will all these drama end. Is it now a crime to have postures for photographs ?