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Re: See why athiesm is a device of the devil by Tournel(m): 3:35am On Oct 22, 2016 |
Pidggin:How about the numerous stupid religious beliefs that kill people and stop progress. Everyone claims his religion is right, yet they fight. What makes you think your religion is right is because you were born into it. All in the name of Faith, people achieve nothing believing they'll die and go to a better place. Just take all these useless religious beliefs away from science please |
Re: See why athiesm is a device of the devil by Mujtahida: 3:24am On Oct 25, 2016 |
alchemist13:According to Everett, the Pirahã have no concept of a supreme spirit or god,[8] and they lost interest in Jesus when they discovered that Everett had never seen him. They require evidence based on personal experience for every claim made. If only we arrogant moderns have the common sense of these primitive people to not believe in believe all the twistedness of Christianity will cease to thrive. I was amused to read that they lost interest in Jesus when they learnt that Everett had never seen him. That's how it should be for all of us too. 1 Like |
Re: See why athiesm is a device of the devil by donnffd(m): 5:30am On Oct 25, 2016 |
Pidggin: My theist love, are you trying to say the devil has confused me? 1 Like |
Re: See why athiesm is a device of the devil by wirinet(m): 6:45am On Oct 25, 2016 |
Arguing with you is like arguing with recorded TV program, you just talk without listening at the other person. Lemmycool and others have answered your questions again and again, but you refuse to listen and ask the same questions again and again. You are so obsessed and and pained at atheists that you are deaf to anything they write. Pidggin: Because, they think that is the only way to control nature. They think if they can somehow control images made to mimic nature, they control nature. The worship is an attempt to control nature through the images. Why do most humans perceive the supernatural in creation.Hasty generalization. Because you perceive supernatural in creation ( whatever that means) does not mean most people do. I and millions of others ( if not billions) do not perceive the supernatural in creation. It has been explained again and again. Human evolutionary survival depends on our ability to understand and control our environment and social structure. The very act of worship satisfies these two criteria. Religion provides a social structure for society and attempts to control the environment by appealing to higher powers. Give us reference where science claim spirituality happens everywhere. You are exhibiting the typical black African behaviour, 100% spiritual with little scientific knowledge, 100% worship with 0% research. 1 Like |
Re: See why athiesm is a device of the devil by Pidggin(f): 6:46am On Oct 25, 2016 |
Mujtahida: I guess you skipped the part where it says they believe spirits exists and also they feel there is a spirit living in the cloud who has the power to kill them? |
Re: See why athiesm is a device of the devil by Pidggin(f): 6:54am On Oct 25, 2016 |
donnffd: I am saying it not trying, that's the point of this thread, i'm glad you are catching on |
Re: See why athiesm is a device of the devil by Pidggin(f): 7:35am On Oct 25, 2016 |
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Re: See why athiesm is a device of the devil by hopefulLandlord: 7:42am On Oct 25, 2016 |
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Re: See why athiesm is a device of the devil by donnffd(m): 11:13am On Oct 25, 2016 |
Pidggin: I am not a big fan of the theist/atheist arguments, it doesnt lead anywhere especially when both sides are just ranting and not listening to the otherside, but i ask a simple question, how can i be confused by something that is imaginary and does not exist? |
Re: See why athiesm is a device of the devil by Mujtahida: 2:18pm On Oct 25, 2016 |
Pidggin:I picked on the Jesus aspect because Jesus is totally alien to their spiritual experience unlike the spirits they believe in. They wanted proofs not stories or beliefs without experience. And for that reason I commend them because Christianity is all stories, hearsay. Neither you nor me were there when the things faith rest on happened unlike the Apostles and early Christians. If they had evidence then why not extend the same grace to we today since their mission and our is the same namely to spread the Gospel. do you know that in law hearsay evidence is not admissible but Christianity is based on proxies, third parties, intermediaries. That's why you have churches and the whole ecclesiastical machinery. I admire and would have loved to be a Quaker because they stress that all believers should press for and have direct personal experience of God. |
Re: See why athiesm is a device of the devil by Pidggin(f): 8:41pm On Oct 25, 2016 |
donnffd: So you think imaginary characters composed the Bible and over three billion Christians are all imagining things? Why has the bible survived the test of time, it's been a best seller through every generation. What is your perception about an author whose book has broken all known world records so far? |
Re: See why athiesm is a device of the devil by jonbellion(m): 9:22pm On Oct 25, 2016 |
Pidggin:point of correction I don't think most atheists say nothing created something. Well me personally I'm agnostic I simply say I don't know it's honestly not hard. Maybe a creator worked though the big bang. I don't know. Maybe a creator planted the first cells that were able to reproduce and grow into a tree- like system with the branches of various life. I don't know However my ignorance on the origin of a creator would not make me subscribe to religious superstation and bullcrap. A woman was not formed out of a mans rib. Snakes don't talk and there was no wooden boat that harbored all the animals on the planet for a year 1 Like
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Re: See why athiesm is a device of the devil by Pidggin(f): 10:33pm On Oct 25, 2016 |
jonbellion: It might interest you to know that the Big Bang is still a theory and will remain a theory for eternity. Why would you want to rely on a theory rather than fact? The Bible has held its own for centuries despite countless efforts to discredit it. The choice is yours, if you ever decide to chose Christianity in future, you will need to humble yourself and ask God to reveal Himself to you. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: See why athiesm is a device of the devil by jonbellion(m): 4:26am On Oct 26, 2016 |
Pidggin:lol the big bang theory can be disproved it is not like religion and for the umpteenth time a scientific theory is not the same as a lame mams version of s theory. The big bang theory is not an irrefutable methodology. If someone is able to effectively disprove it today science would not complain. If someone was able to disprove evolution today science would not complain. The person would even get a Nobel prize. That is the beauty of science. It isn't afraid to revaluate. You are encouraged to ask questions you are encouraged to doubt it is falsifiable. Religion on the other hand is the exact opposite of this religion is like " the bible is 100% true " when it is clearly not it is an irrefutable methodology. It does not re evaluate it's claims when provided with evidence. A good example is what the church did to Galileo Galelei. A scientific theory is something that is widely accepted after a lot of observation, evaluation and experiments A scientific theory is not a wild guess if you had said big bang is a hypothesis THAT is the scientific version of the laymans theory "a hypothesis |
Re: See why athiesm is a device of the devil by GoodMuyis(m): 5:38am On Oct 26, 2016 |
Lennycool: Question That you have answered yourself Lennycool: If I tell You that God Almighty out of curiosity created the universe, shouldn't you believe that? Yes God Almighty created the universe out of curiosity. You next question may be is God a man that he should be curious? God is not a man, but he created man in His likeness, hence there are characteristics shared by both God and man, so both God and man are curious. You also expose your ignorance in that same post
The the Bold above, how you not sure that Evolution theories are not cooked story backed-up by science to justify it claims? The strike text above, why would think The Christian God is imaginary when, almost all tribe on earth lay claim to one supernatural creator, wo tell the story to all of them, Maybe Noah |
Re: See why athiesm is a device of the devil by Nobody: 7:45am On Oct 26, 2016 |
Pidggin:I didn't see this before oh, you are saying utter crap. Man is the most intelligent of all species. Dolphins and whales don't come close. Atleast research before you start spewing crap. 1 Like |
Re: See why athiesm is a device of the devil by donnffd(m): 8:28am On Oct 26, 2016 |
Pidggin: Breaking records is not a prerequisite for truths and facts, and science is not a democracy, what is true is not determined by votes or the number of people that believes in it. 2000years ago, 99.5% of people in the world believed the earth was flat and they did that for longer than 2000years, did that mean they were correct? The evidence for God and satan is as good as the evidence for the flying spaghetti monster, the chinese teapot and santa-claus, if you disagree, i would gladly love to see your evidence! 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: See why athiesm is a device of the devil by marvoo: 12:11pm On Oct 26, 2016 |
Pidggin:you are really funny. You are just intertwining what ur saying. Reasoning has always been in humans and due to reasoning humans created spirituality. |
Re: See why athiesm is a device of the devil by marvoo: 12:21pm On Oct 26, 2016 |
Pidggin:The devil isn't real n he isn't confusing anyone, what is confusing everyone is d Bible and God. 1 Like |
Re: See why athiesm is a device of the devil by Pidggin(f): 1:45pm On Oct 26, 2016 |
Lennycool: What does the human brain that Cetaceans don't? |
Re: See why athiesm is a device of the devil by Pidggin(f): 1:47pm On Oct 26, 2016 |
marvoo: Why does reasoning have to lead spirituality? |
Re: See why athiesm is a device of the devil by Pidggin(f): 1:50pm On Oct 26, 2016 |
marvoo: Tell that to the cultists, satanist, those who practice vodoo, Astral projection etc you athiests are so naive |
Re: See why athiesm is a device of the devil by Nobody: 2:05pm On Oct 26, 2016 |
Pidggin:Its not what they have or don't have. Humans have higher intellect than any another animal on the planet. The next is dolphin and then chimps. No one comes close to humans in intellect, but in any other aspect they outpass us immensely. |
Re: See why athiesm is a device of the devil by Nobody: 2:07pm On Oct 26, 2016 |
Pidggin:And it doesn't work, its all superstition. I blame Nollywood for your delusion. 1 Like |
Re: See why athiesm is a device of the devil by Pidggin(f): 2:11pm On Oct 26, 2016 |
Lennycool: As science is constantly evolving, you and I know that this is still a theory and not fact. Scientists may disprove this theory in time to come so why should you be so certain. Neurons thought to be responsible for reasoning in human is also found in Cetaceans. |
Re: See why athiesm is a device of the devil by marvoo: 2:14pm On Oct 26, 2016 |
Pidggin:isn't it due to man's quest for answer to all questions that lead to the different religion we see today? Is religion not where spirituality reside? |
Re: See why athiesm is a device of the devil by Pidggin(f): 2:20pm On Oct 26, 2016 |
Lennycool: Hehehehe superstition? Lennycool, don't tell me you can be this naive. Who do you think is behind ritual killings? |
Re: See why athiesm is a device of the devil by Nobody: 2:25pm On Oct 26, 2016 |
Pidggin:The killings are real. But the people don't benefit from it. They're just wasting lives. I think hardmirror covered this before. People in South Africa believe that if they rape a virgin their HIV will be cured. Does it mean it will work? Will they be cured? In the same way people sacrifice human lives but it still won't help them. |
Re: See why athiesm is a device of the devil by Pidggin(f): 2:25pm On Oct 26, 2016 |
marvoo: Reasoning doesn't have to lead to spirituality, some animals reason too yet they have not been found to be spiritual. Reasoning should have led to other things besides the awareness of the supernatural. Reasoning should have led us to assume nothing created everything, why didn't reasoning lead people to believe that everything occured as they met it, why did it lead them to assume they must be a supernatural twist to it. Why did it direct them towards worship and reverence. These are not supposed to be rational thinking patterns and reasoning should be according to science |
Re: See why athiesm is a device of the devil by Pidggin(f): 2:29pm On Oct 26, 2016 |
Lennycool: Hahahahaha, and you have met ritualists that confirmed this statement to you? |
Re: See why athiesm is a device of the devil by Nobody: 2:37pm On Oct 26, 2016 |
Pidggin:No I apply logic. Where will the money come from, why is the native doctor not rich enough to close his shrine and build a mansion, why does nigeria with all its ritual killings, not have the highest number of billionaires in the world. Use your brain. Its all wasted life. Your talking like you've been there when a human ritual was done, and then followed the person around to see how he got his wealth. All your evidence is hearsay. |
Re: See why athiesm is a device of the devil by Pidggin(f): 2:44pm On Oct 26, 2016 |
Lennycool: If it wasn't working they wouldn't keep doing it, all of them can't be so stupid |
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