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Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by pressplay411(m): 5:40pm On Nov 12, 2016
FrancisMalemia:

What You Need Is An Understanding Of The Trinity And What Happened To The Trinity From The Arrest To The Resurrection Of Jesus Christ.

If You Do Not Understand This, What If I Tell You That God Did Not Die On The Cross (because God Cannot Die, He Has Never Died And Will Never Die), But Jesus Did And Jesus Is 100% God. Will You Understand?
I Bet It Doesn't Make Sense To You. Even Some Christians Here Will Turn Against Me. So If You Don't Understand Something, Try To Understand It, Don't Try To Argue.

You're confused. Don't come and confuse us with your confusion.
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:47pm On Dec 15, 2016
OLAADEGBU:


Did Jesus declare Himself to be God by saying 'I AM'?

Suggested answer:

Question: "What did Jesus mean when He said 'I AM'?"

Answer: Jesus, in response to the Pharisees' question "Who do you think you are?" said, "'Your father Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day; he saw it and was glad.' 'You are not yet fifty years old,' the Jews said to him, 'and you have seen Abraham!' 'I tell you the truth,' Jesus answered, 'before Abraham was born, I AM!' At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds" (John 8:56–59). The violent response of the Jews to Jesus' "I AM" statement indicates they clearly understood what He was declaring—that He was the eternal God incarnate. Jesus was equating Himself with the "I AM" title God gave Himself in Exodus 3:14.

If Jesus had merely wanted to say He existed before Abraham's time, He would have said, "Before Abraham, I was." The Greek words translated "was," in the case of Abraham, and "am," in the case of Jesus, are quite different. The words chosen by the Spirit make it clear that Abraham was "brought into being," but Jesus existed eternally (see John 1:1). There is no doubt that the Jews understood what He was saying because they took up stones to kill Him for making Himself equal with God (John 5:18). Such a statement, if not true, was blasphemy and the punishment prescribed by the Mosaic Law was death (Leviticus 24:11–14). But Jesus committed no blasphemy; He was and is God, the second Person of the Godhead, equal to the Father in every way.

Jesus used the same phrase "I AM" in seven declarations about Himself. In all seven, He combines I AM with tremendous metaphors which express His saving relationship toward the world. All appear in the book of John. They are I AM the Bread of Life (John 6:35, 41, 48, 51); I AM the Light of the World (John 8:12); I AM the Door of the Sheep (John 10:7, 9); I AM the Good Shepherd (John 10:11,14); I AM the Resurrection and the Life (John 11:25); I AM the Way, the Truth and the Life (John 14:6); and I AM the True Vine (John 15:1, 5).

https://gotquestions.org/I-AM.html
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:15pm On Aug 28, 2017
OLAADEGBU:


Did Jesus declare Himself to be God by saying 'I AM'?

What did Jesus mean when He said 'I AM'? Did Jesus declare Himself to be God by saying 'I AM'?
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by Janosky: 10:37am On Apr 24, 2020
OLAADEGBU:


What did Jesus mean when He said 'I AM'? Did Jesus declare Himself to be God by saying 'I AM'?

Jesus Christ NEVER said I am , to prove your fictitious claims.

Exodus 3:4 ,Moses declared " I am".
The man NEVER mean he is God.

The expression "I am" means DIFFERENT things in Hebrew and Greek languages.

STOP deceiving yourself with FOOLISH reasoning copied from man made philosophy.

John 8:14-19.
14 Jesus answered, “Even if I testify on my own behalf, my testimony is valid, for I know where I came from and where I am going. But you have no idea where I come from or where I am going. 15 You judge by human standards; I pass judgment on no one. 16 But if I do judge, my decisions are true, because I am not alone. I stand with the Father, who sent me.17 In your own Law it is written that the testimony of two witnesses is true.18 I am one who testifies for myself; my other witness is the Father, who sent me.”

19 Then they asked him, “Where is your father?”

“You do not know me or my Father,” Jesus replied. “If you knew me, you would know my Father also.”

OLAADEGBU, who is the Father of your God of John 5:58?
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John 8:21-26..
21 Once more Jesus said to them, “I am going away, and you will look for me, and you will die(Z) in your sin. Where I go, you cannot come.”(AA)

22 This made the Jews ask, “Will he kill himself? Is that why he says, ‘Where I go, you cannot come’?”

23 But he continued, “You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world.(AB) 24 I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am he,(AC) you will indeed die in your sins.”

25 “Who are you?” they asked.

“Just what I have been telling you from the beginning,” Jesus replied. 26 “I have much to say in judgment of you. But he who sent me is trustworthy, and what I have heard from him I tell the world.”

OLAADEGBU,who sent your God of John 5:58 ?
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Question:
what did God see in his "Father's presence"?
Why does God of John 5:58 have a Father teaching him what to do?.

John 8:27-38.
27 They did not understand that he was telling them about his Father. 28 So Jesus said, “When you have lifted up[a] the Son of Man,(AF) then you will know that I am he and that I do nothing on my own but speak just what the Father has taught me.(AG) 29 The one who sent me is with me; he has not left me alone,(AH) for I always do what pleases him.”(AI) 30 Even as he spoke, many believed in him.(AJ)


31 To the Jews who had believed him, Jesus said, “If you hold to my teaching,(AK) you are really my disciples. 32 Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”(AL)

33 They answered him, “We are Abraham’s descendants(AM) and have never been slaves of anyone. How can you say that we shall be set free?”

34 Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, everyone who sins is a slave to sin.(AN) 35 Now a slave has no permanent place in the family, but a son belongs to it forever.(AO) 36 So if the Son sets you free,(AP) you will be free indeed. 37 I know that you are Abraham’s descendants. Yet you are looking for a way to kill me,(AQ) because you have no room for my word. 38 I am telling you what I have seen in the Father’s presence,(AR) and you are doing what you have heard from your father.[b]”(AS)
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John 8:39-43
39 “Abraham is our father,” they answered.

“If you were Abraham’s children,”(AT) said Jesus, “then you would[c] do what Abraham did. 40 As it is, you are looking for a way to kill me,(AU) a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God.(AV) Abraham did not do such things. 41 You are doing the works of your own father.”(AW)

“We are not illegitimate children,” they protested. “The only Father we have is God himself.”

42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me.43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say.

Question: John 8:39-43
Your God of John 5:58 said he did not come on his own, are you confused or your interpretation of John 8:58 is very MISLEADING ?

How come men are seeking for ways to kill your very powerful God?
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John 8:44-47
44 You belong to your father, the devil,(BC) and you want to carry out your father’s desires.(BD) He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.(BE) 45 Yet because I tell the truth,(BF) you do not believe me!
46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don’t you believe me? 47 Whoever belongs to God hears what God says.(BG) The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.”
Question:
"Whoever belongs to God hears what God says.."
1 Cor 11:3. 1 Cor3:23. John 20:17. Rev 3:5,12 why does your claims CONTRADICT the words spoken by Jesus in heaven and his apostles?
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John 8:48-58.
48 The Jews answered him, “Aren’t we right in saying that you are a Samaritan(BH) and demon-possessed?”

49 “I am not possessed by a demon,” said Jesus, “but I honor my Father and you dishonor me. 50 I am not seeking glory for myself;(BJ) but there is one who seeks it, and he is the judge. 51 Very truly I tell you, whoever obeys my word will never see death.”(BK)

52 At this they exclaimed, “Now we know that you are demon-possessed!(BL) Abraham died and so did the prophets, yet you say that whoever obeys your word will never taste death. 53 Are you greater than our father Abraham?(BM) He died, and so did the prophets. Who do you think you are?”

54 Jesus replied, “If I glorify myself,(BN) my glory means nothing. My Father, whom you claim as your God, is the one who glorifies me.(BO) 55 Though you do not know him,(BP) I know him.(BQ) If I said I did not, I would be a liar like you, but I do know him and obey his word.(BR) 56 Your father Abraham(BS) rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day; he saw it(BT) and was glad.”

57 “You are not yet fifty years old,” they said to him, “and you have seen Abraham!”

58 “Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born,(BU) I am!”

Question:
Why does your God of John 5:58 says he gives glory and honor to his Father, not himself?
Why does your God of old testament give glory and honor to his Father?
Why does your claim of Exodus 3:14 & John 5:58 contradicted the words of Jesus Christ and his apostles John 20:17. Acts 3:13. Rev 3:12,21 and Exodus 3:14-15 ?

The integrity of OLAADEGBU posts is ZERO until he proves otherwise.....

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