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Re: The Coercion Of Forceful Belief As A Means Of Salvation by jonbellion(m): 12:28am On Nov 01, 2016 |
johnydon22:lol if we could see that kind of thing for religion everyone would just follow Christ |
Re: The Coercion Of Forceful Belief As A Means Of Salvation by TomHagen: 12:31am On Nov 01, 2016 |
Deicide:Exactly my point. |
Re: The Coercion Of Forceful Belief As A Means Of Salvation by johnydon22(m): 12:31am On Nov 01, 2016 |
jonbellion: Don't hold your breathe on that. they are only good at claiming it... two words always murder each ridiculous claim. prove it Just like i did above.. 1 Like |
Re: The Coercion Of Forceful Belief As A Means Of Salvation by TomHagen: 12:32am On Nov 01, 2016 |
johnydon22:I have nothing that can satisfy you. |
Re: The Coercion Of Forceful Belief As A Means Of Salvation by johnydon22(m): 12:32am On Nov 01, 2016 |
TomHagen: Bros simply agree you don't have any proof and save face - i gave an example above!!! |
Re: The Coercion Of Forceful Belief As A Means Of Salvation by Marvyx(m): 12:34am On Nov 01, 2016 |
johnydon22: Even if he provided you with pictorial evidence, you will still not believe because your mind is already made up. Personally I pray that Jesus personally reaches out to people like you and your friends on NL. I've made up my mind not to be part of baseless arguments as it profits me nothing. If I perceived that you were looking for answers I would have loved to give them to you. But like I said, your mind is closed. The last time I argued with an atheist on NL, I told him something which I will still tell you and Deicide now. We all have an expiry date in this world. You will leave this world one day so will I.... But when that time comes, we will know who was foolish to believe in God or not . I still pray that you come to salvation before the last day because you will remember all your posts, my post and every Christian that tried to talk to you on NL and beyond. Cheers bro |
Re: The Coercion Of Forceful Belief As A Means Of Salvation by TomHagen: 12:35am On Nov 01, 2016 |
jonbellion:Speak for yourself. Say it isn't reliable for you. It is for many others. |
Re: The Coercion Of Forceful Belief As A Means Of Salvation by johnydon22(m): 12:35am On Nov 01, 2016 |
TomHagen: I agree that you have nothing, that is why you need faith to believe every whim, coercion and absurd fantasies thrown at you in your blind comformity to sheepish unsupported beliefs. If you had something you wouldn't require faith, where there is proof there is no need for faith. People only apply faith when they lack tangible reasons to believe something. Now it has been nailed that your beliefs are not only subjective but baseless and unsupported - i hope you'd agree it will be an act of fraud and criminal lie to teach it as truth to the public, and even more so insane to believe it as real. 9 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: The Coercion Of Forceful Belief As A Means Of Salvation by TomHagen: 12:37am On Nov 01, 2016 |
johnydon22:I thought I said that already. I have no proof that will satisfy you. |
Re: The Coercion Of Forceful Belief As A Means Of Salvation by TomHagen: 12:38am On Nov 01, 2016 |
Marvyx: |
Re: The Coercion Of Forceful Belief As A Means Of Salvation by johnydon22(m): 12:38am On Nov 01, 2016 |
Marvyx: Oh Jesus Christ!!! Not one of these again #Sighs. Just simply give us the pics and videos first not these silly old tired excuses please... |
Re: The Coercion Of Forceful Belief As A Means Of Salvation by jonbellion(m): 12:39am On Nov 01, 2016 |
TomHagen:okay. Don't take drugs when you're ill just go and meet benny hinn |
Re: The Coercion Of Forceful Belief As A Means Of Salvation by johnydon22(m): 12:40am On Nov 01, 2016 |
TomHagen: You don't even have proof at all not to talk of one that can be regarded satisfactory. |
Re: The Coercion Of Forceful Belief As A Means Of Salvation by jonbellion(m): 12:41am On Nov 01, 2016 |
[quote author=TomHagen post=50667214][/quote]actually we WOULD believe that's the point of evidence. The thought of heaven is beautiful who wouldn't like the idea. But I have come to the realization that it is basically a coping mechanism for the fear of our own mortality 3 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: The Coercion Of Forceful Belief As A Means Of Salvation by TomHagen: 12:43am On Nov 01, 2016 |
johnydon22:See. You have decided what proof is. |
Re: The Coercion Of Forceful Belief As A Means Of Salvation by johnydon22(m): 12:44am On Nov 01, 2016 |
TomHagen: Oga stop prolonging your ordeal, you are done.. |
Re: The Coercion Of Forceful Belief As A Means Of Salvation by TomHagen: 12:45am On Nov 01, 2016 |
jonbellion:My experiences suffice as evidence for me. |
Re: The Coercion Of Forceful Belief As A Means Of Salvation by TomHagen: 12:46am On Nov 01, 2016 |
johnydon22:Oh well... |
Re: The Coercion Of Forceful Belief As A Means Of Salvation by johnydon22(m): 12:48am On Nov 01, 2016 |
TomHagen: Good, now the point of it all is that you shouldn't peddle your 'gut feelings' as objective truth to the public because it not only makes you fraudulent but also makes you a liar. Even mad people in the market believe their experience is enough .. I can think of no bigger madness than believing someone else's hallucinations are real. |
Re: The Coercion Of Forceful Belief As A Means Of Salvation by Deicide: 12:54am On Nov 01, 2016 |
Marvyx: Am sorry but my mind is Not made up You Can Change It With Evidence!!
Like i said if you have Evidence Bring them forward! Mortality is A biological function it Affect all Animals On Earth So i Don't Get Ur Point So you think Yahweh is the Only God there is Wow am actually laughing at you Foolishness right Now I only Pray that You Discover the One true God The flying Spaghetti monster So you don't Burn in Hell RAmen 5 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: The Coercion Of Forceful Belief As A Means Of Salvation by TomHagen: 12:56am On Nov 01, 2016 |
johnydon22:...and when millions of people are having the same ''hallucinations''?... Do not appeal to authority by saying 'religion' please. |
Re: The Coercion Of Forceful Belief As A Means Of Salvation by johnydon22(m): 12:59am On Nov 01, 2016 |
TomHagen:Argumentum ad populum - A desperate last gasp that is, a typical expected fallacy. Millions of people believing the same fantasy and yet not even a single proof. . . Almost all humans on earth once believed the earth was flat and the sun went around it. A lie is a lie even if everyone believe it. 7 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: The Coercion Of Forceful Belief As A Means Of Salvation by jonbellion(m): 1:04am On Nov 01, 2016 |
The sad thing about christians is that they are so arrogant thinking that they have a special place in the universe. That's why they can poach animals and make them face the danger of extinction. They never ponder if animals feel pain or even have souls. Basically after all the universe was made for them. News flash it's not the universe hates us. We are on a crash course with the andromeda galaxy, there are rougue black holes. Gamma ray bursts that can destroy the earths ozone layer they happen like everyday in distant galaxies. There are large astriods that can end all life on this planet medium ones are as effective as a nuclear bomb and can cause a nuclear winter or bring us to another ice age. Not the mention the temperature of the universe is approaching absolute zero. Science is basically our way if outsmarting the universe but religious fundamentalists wouldn't let it be. Intellegent design is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard 3 Likes |
Re: The Coercion Of Forceful Belief As A Means Of Salvation by TomHagen: 1:09am On Nov 01, 2016 |
johnydon22:...that is acceptable to you.. |
Re: The Coercion Of Forceful Belief As A Means Of Salvation by Marvyx(m): 1:42am On Nov 01, 2016 |
Deicide: Lol.. Dude it is visible to the blind and audible to the deaf that your mind is closed. Even if you see an evidence, you will still come up with logical explanation to disprove it. A day of reckoning is coming when all truth will be revealed. I still earnestly pray that you will be saved before that day. Cheers |
Re: The Coercion Of Forceful Belief As A Means Of Salvation by jonbellion(m): 2:23am On Nov 01, 2016 |
Marvyx:lol truth that what? All eyes would see Jesus Christ On an earth that ain't flat With a flying horse? So jesus can survive the vacum of space Is he faster than the speed of light?? Why didn't he disappear since heaven isn't in this dimension. Instead he flew Please which of the trillions of galaxies does he stay in cuz our closest galaxy andromeda it takes 2.5 million years for the light to reach earth. Anytime we look at it we are looking into the past Unless jesus is somehow faster than the speed of light How are you not realising this is bullshit?? You really have to face the fact that you are stardust but it's honestly a beautiful thing The universe is basically in us and we are part of it. This is the greatest spiritual feeling anybody can ask for 3 Likes |
Re: The Coercion Of Forceful Belief As A Means Of Salvation by kevoh(m): 7:09am On Nov 01, 2016 |
johnydon22: Marvyx:Marvyx, take a look at the pictures posted by Johnny. What is/are the logical explanation(s) to disprove that this man was finally able to walk? Would you have any reason to look at those pictures a million times over and still dispute that the man was able to walk? 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: The Coercion Of Forceful Belief As A Means Of Salvation by jonbellion(m): 7:22am On Nov 01, 2016 |
kevoh:I tire oo |
Re: The Coercion Of Forceful Belief As A Means Of Salvation by Edenoscar(m): 7:26am On Nov 01, 2016 |
johnydon22:They think because there are over a billion christians worldwide then that automatically makes them right. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Coercion Of Forceful Belief As A Means Of Salvation by Edenoscar(m): 7:29am On Nov 01, 2016 |
jonbellion:Forget jesus christ,the stars died so we could live |
Re: The Coercion Of Forceful Belief As A Means Of Salvation by taurus25(m): 7:54am On Nov 01, 2016 |
Marvyx:If there's ever been clear cut proof for a supernatural regrowth of an amputated limb, no christain would have trouble providing it. Evidence for such a thing would speak for itself. We hear accounts of pretty much every kind of ailment been healed everyday, but the case of amputees seems to be very perculia. Does god hate amputees that much? 7 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: The Coercion Of Forceful Belief As A Means Of Salvation by HardMirror(m): 10:07am On Nov 01, 2016 |
taurus25:How I broke free from christianity is still a miracle to me. Me! Atheist?! How will it happen?, but here I am today laffing at the stupidity of my past. 3 Likes 1 Share |
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