hopefullandlurd:


Muslims are ready to kill for Allah, same way Yahweh believers would kill if Yahweh tells them to

not true... not everyone is ready to kill for Yahweh

LifestyleTonite:
see picture proof.



You can google to see tonnes of his pictures with the Pope and Catholic Church.

how does that prove that the catholic church supported hitlers genocide?

that picture was taken be4 d genocide began, it was hitler and a cardinal not a pope and the meeting was held to protect d rights of catholics in a largely protestant germany. that doesnt mean d church supported d genocide.

LifestyleTonite:
see picture proof.



You can google to see tonnes of his pictures with the Pope and Catholic Church.

So a picture of Hitler with a bishop is enough for you? It magically shows you that Church policy was pro Hitler? Please dont be blinded by hatred...Hitler had many Catholic supporters in Germany but support for Hitler was never church policy. He also had many Protestant supporters by the way but he had no official support from the Lutheran Church either. Otherwise there would be no Dietrich Bonhoffer, a Protestant martyr of the Nazis, or St Maximillian Kolbe and St Edith Stein(a Jewish convert to Catholicism). Like I mentioned before, if you are a seeker of knowledge, not hatred, please read Mit Brennender Sorge. You can find the English translation on the internet. Also this is what Jews said about Pope Pius XII:
Chief Rabbi of Jerusalem, Isaac Herzog, sent Pius
XII a personal message of thanks on February 28,
1944: "The people of Israel will never forget what
His Holiness and his illustrious delegates, inspired
by the eternal principles of religion which form the
very foundation of true civilization, are doing for us
unfortunate brothers and sisters in the most tragic
hour of our history, which is living proof of Divine
Providence in this world."

Israel Zolli, Chief Rabbi of Rome, "What the Vatican
did will be indelibly and eternally engraved in our
hearts...priests and even higher prelates did things
that will forever be an honor to Catholicism." Zolli
later converted to Catholicism and took the
Christian name Eugenio after the pope, who's given
name was Eugenio.

Einstein, Time magazine, December 23, 1940, pg.
38: "Being a lover of freedom, when the revolution
came to Germany, I looked to the universities to
defend it, knowing that they had always boasted of
their devotion to the cause of truth; but, no, the
universities were immediately silenced. Then I
looked to the great editors of the newspapers
whose flaming editorials in days gone by had
proclaimed their love of freedom; but then, like the
universities, were silenced in a few short
weeks...Only the Church stood squarely across the
path of Hitler's campaign for suppressing truth. I
never had any special interest in the Church before,
but now I feel a great affection and admiration
because the Church alone had had the courage and
persistence to stand for intellectual truth and moral
freedom. I am forced thus to confess that what I
once despised I now praise unreservedly."

Einstein, Time magazine, December 23, 1940, pg.
38: "Being a lover of freedom, when the revolution
came to Germany, I looked to the universities to
defend it, knowing that they had always boasted of
their devotion to the cause of truth; but, no, the
universities were immediately silenced. Then I
looked to the great editors of the newspapers
whose flaming editorials in days gone by had
proclaimed their love of freedom; but then, like the
universities, were silenced in a few short
weeks...Only the Church stood squarely across the
path of Hitler's campaign for suppressing truth. I
never had any special interest in the Church before,
but now I feel a great affection and admiration
because the Church alone had had the courage and
persistence to stand for intellectual truth and moral
freedom. I am forced thus to confess that what I
once despised I now praise unreservedly."

The Israeli diplomat and scholar Pinchas Lapide
concluded his careful review of Pius XII's wartime
activities with the following words: “ The Catholic
Church, under the pontificate of Pius XII, was
instrumental in saving the lives of as many as
860,000 Jews from certain death at Nazi hands.”
He went on to add that this “ figure far exceeds
those saved by all other Churches and rescue
organizations combined.” After recounting
statements of appreciation from a variety of
preeminent Jewish spokespersons, he noted. “No
Pope in history has been thanked more heartily by
Jews.”

Wilgrea7:

not true... not everyone is ready to kill for Yahweh

not everyone is ready to kill for Allah too
but open your bible to those that refuse to carry out God's instruction
Moses? remember him striking the rock?
remember Saul?
look what Abraham did when Yahweh told him to sacrifice Isaac?
if your morals come from any god, you'll do anything he says

hopefullandlurd:


not everyone is ready to kill for Allah too

but open your bible to those that refuse to carry out God's instruction

Moses? remember him striking the rock?

remember Saul?

look what Abraham did when Yahweh told him to sacrifice Isaac?

if your morals come from any god, you'll do anything he says

any unjust killing in the name of religion is madness.. i don't care who or what did it.

Wilgrea7:
this is madness at its peak.. i don't follow any religious practice that violates my moral code... be it murder or whatever.. if i were a Muslim, I'd rather die than kill someone for not believing in my God. and if my God were to punish me for not killing, then so be it

anyone who can kill another person just because they don't believe in their God.. that person is mad... whether from the bible or Koran.. madness is madness

LifestyleTonite:
so, how come Muslims kill for him? [size=18pt]Can't he do it himself(am talking about Allah)[/size]?

Read your bible. God was allowing entire armies to fall at the hands of Israel. But this is entirely besides the point.

The point is that God can also speak to each human individually without referring people to the Quran or Bible or to clerics. But he didn't, we are left with human beings to speak on his behalf.

So don't tell me things that God could do better. If he was entertaining your suggestions, then he wouldn't be God. Questions?

Wilgrea7:


any unjust killing in the name of religion is madness.. i don't care who or what did it.



anyone who can kill another person just because they don't believe in their God.. that person is mad... whether from the bible or Koran.. madness is madness

fair enough