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Re: Igbo Speaking Communities In Kogi State by bigfrancis21: 3:11pm On Nov 04, 2016
ianSweet:
@BigFrancis, There are no indigenous ethnic igbos in Kogi.
Many Igalas from southern igala speak Igbos as a second language and may share Igbo origins, but today, we are all Igalas by ethnicity.
There are also igala speakers in Enugu and Anambra and Igbo speakers with Igala origin in these states.



The images I uploaded on the first page says otherwise. From the list you can see various communities in Kogi state with Igbo names such as Umuoye, Umuochina etc. One of the prominent Igbo-speaking communities in Kogi is the Eke Avurugo community where Igbo is spoken as first language and Igala as second language.

In addition to many Igalas speaking Igbo as second language, would it not follow that these/some Igalas in southern Igala land are of Igbo origin and not due to linguistic proximity? The one or two Igala-speaking villages in Igboland are readily assumed to be Igala of origin, however the Igbo-speaking Igalas are not related to Igbo in anyway?? Ibaji Igala, as you probably know, is heavily influenced by the Igbo language. However, it would not be satisfactory enough to assume that the dialect was just influenced by Igbo language without acknowledging some possible Igbo migration in the area, just as some Igalas migrated southwards towards Igboland, in substantial numbers to influence the Ibaji dialect? Even the 'core' Igalas of Idah, Dekina, Ofu etc. often regard Ibaji Igalas as 'omo Igbo' and don't see them as 'core' Igalas.

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Re: Igbo Speaking Communities In Kogi State by Orikinla(m): 3:12pm On Nov 04, 2016
Do Kogi Igbo girls behave like Igbo girls in the East?

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Re: Igbo Speaking Communities In Kogi State by bigfrancis21: 3:13pm On Nov 04, 2016
ianSweet:


Ette is an Igala town with Idoma and Igbo migrants. The kingship titles and traditional rulers are in Igala.

Igga and i think Ogurugu towns in Enugu are of Igala origin, they are both billingual in igala and igbo, but because they are in Enugu, they seem to identify as Igbo, am not really sure.

Aren't the Idomas in the majority in Ette, followed by Igala? Then Igbo? It seems to me that the Igalas are trying to lay ownership to Ette town as they seem to be doing to other places of recent.
Re: Igbo Speaking Communities In Kogi State by OgaEngr: 3:20pm On Nov 04, 2016
I know of Akpanya in Igalamela/Odolu LGA. They all speak Igbo. Everyone born and bred in the town speak Igbo. The ones that speak Igala are those that had travelled - mainly the elders.

Their market is Orie, also an Igbo Market day.

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Re: Igbo Speaking Communities In Kogi State by saintandsinnerz: 3:20pm On Nov 04, 2016
Joavid:
really?? we understand that the Igala's are your brothers so take it easy.

Kogi is the only state bordering almost 5 states cos it situated right in the middle of Nigeria, so tell your Igbo communities to move back to Anambra and stop claiming another state. Edo people did not move from Edo to Kogi and claim it, Gwari people of Abuja didn't do it.
,o

WTF is wrong with you people

you Igbos have issues for real.
Igbo hatred will never allow you to read and comprehend! See the way you just pollute this thread with your rabid hatred for anything Igbo. Crawl back to whatever dark hole you may crawl out from, this thread is not for bigots like you.

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Re: Igbo Speaking Communities In Kogi State by krak101(m): 3:21pm On Nov 04, 2016
Joavid:
really?? we understand that the Igala's are your brothers so take it easy.

Kogi is the only state bordering almost 5 states cos it situated right in the middle of Nigeria, so tell your Igbo communities to move back to Anambra and stop claiming another state. Edo people did not move from Edo to Kogi and claim it, Gwari people of Abuja didn't do it.
,o

WTF is wrong with you people

you Igbos have issues for real.
.... Can't help but ask... ARE YOU ON STEROIDS People are trying to have a decent educative conversation and you're hating. Common

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Re: Igbo Speaking Communities In Kogi State by Oblang(m): 3:22pm On Nov 04, 2016
Small time this Igbo ppl will claim every part of Nigeria belong to them..

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Re: Igbo Speaking Communities In Kogi State by Afonjas: 3:23pm On Nov 04, 2016
Oblang:
Small time this Igbo ppl will claim every part of Nigeria belong to them..

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Re: Igbo Speaking Communities In Kogi State by bigfrancis21: 3:24pm On Nov 04, 2016
Joavid:


how convenient for you to say that. but sorry, it's proven time and time again that it's the other way round.

Well it is possible. Odekes and Uchuchu communities in Ibaji are said to be of Igbo origins - from Aguleri and Isiokwe in Igboland respectively. In African history, a lot of stories of migration keep flying around. DNA test conducted on many Ibaji Igalas will prove many of them have Igbo DNA. Especially y-DNA tests conducted on Ibaji males that determine paternal ancestry, as we know identity in Nigeria is paternalistic.

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Re: Igbo Speaking Communities In Kogi State by Posh3(f): 3:26pm On Nov 04, 2016
bigfrancis21:


What language does Iggah speak as native language?

Igga speaks Igbo.... And also answers Igbo names.. I have plenty of them as neighbors here in Karmo, Abuja.

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Re: Igbo Speaking Communities In Kogi State by bigfrancis21: 3:26pm On Nov 04, 2016
ianSweet:


No pls, they speak Igala as a first language and igbo as a second language. Although it varies among some individuals. Some speak igbo more. Some answer igala names, some answer igbo names. I have been to these places. I am from southern igala.

What of the Eke Avurugo community in Kogi that speaks Igbo as native language?

What of other communities in Ibaji and Igalamela/Odolu LGA such as Umuoye, Ubulie-Umueze, Ugwuebonyi etc.??

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Re: Igbo Speaking Communities In Kogi State by bigfrancis21: 3:29pm On Nov 04, 2016
oglalasioux:


In Ishielu LGA alone, you have Ezillo speaking a totally different dialect, Iyonu speaking another dialect. Nkalagu and Umuhali speak another version of the Nkanu dialect while Nkalaha and Obegu speak the Nsukka dialect. That's 4.

Then you have Izzi, Ezza, Ikwo and Ngbo/Izhia making 8 dialects. When you add Afikpo, Ivo and Ohaozara you have total of 11 dialects.

Note that I didn't add the non Igbo speaking parts of the State such as Effium, Ofurekpe, Ntezi, Okpoto and Amuda.

Enugu State has 5 dialects namely Nkanu, Awgu, Udi and Nsukka. Anambra has 3 dialects, Umunze, Onitsha and Aguleri (except the northern Igala speaking communities). Abia has 3, Isukwato, Ngwa and Arochukwu. Imo has 3, Mbaise, Owerri and Okigwe.

So no Igbo state has more dialects than Ebonyi state.

On your stance that Ngbo people are not related to the Idomas you may be right. I base my argument on the sound of their words and similarities in their names such as Agbo and Agala among others.




How do the Effium, Ntezi, Okpoto etc. peoples communicate with other Igbos in Ebonyi state?
Re: Igbo Speaking Communities In Kogi State by Nobody: 3:30pm On Nov 04, 2016
AgentH2SO4:
We all know that Igboland cannot be restricted to SE as described by Nigeria.

We have lands in SS & MB.

God bless Igboland

That's why I have spent my time educating Afonjas of Igbo communities in SS and MB so that when another civil war starts, they don't foolishly run into Igbo communities seeking for help thinking we are online and everything is propaganda and joke. Honestly two sensible yorubas have contacted me privately and thanked because they never thought such large Igbo communities existed in those communities outside SE. But the Afonjas among them will keep living in self denial until war starts...foolishly run into Igbo areas thinking they are not Igbos, that day they will be used for nkwobi and isi ewu.

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Re: Igbo Speaking Communities In Kogi State by scholes0(m): 3:32pm On Nov 04, 2016
Clinton9000:


That's why I have spent my time educating Afonjas of Igbo communities in SS and MB so that when another civil war starts, they don't foolishly run into Igbo communities seeking for help thinking we are online and everything is propaganda and joke. Honestly two sensible yorubas have contacted me privately and thanked because they never thought such large Igbo communities existed in those communities outside SE. But the Afonjas among them will keep living in self denial until war starts...foolishly run into Igbo areas thinking they are not Igbos, that day they will be used for ngwobi and isi ewu.

So in a civil war 'God forbid", Yorubas will be the ones running into Igbo communities?
Clap for yourself.

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Re: Igbo Speaking Communities In Kogi State by bigfrancis21: 3:35pm On Nov 04, 2016
oglalasioux:


The Nsukka and most Ebonyi Igbos' culture and traditions are purely shaped by Tiv, Idoma and the Igala cultures and traditions. From masquerades to marriages and foods and burials.

Well, the Igalas sought to conquer Nsukka land by taking advantage of the lack of a centralized kingship system in Igbo land (Igbo enwe eze). The extent of conquest by the Atta of Igala was the installation of an 'attama' to mediate between Nsukka gods and the people. However the Nsukka people strongly resisted the Igala influence. The Aku people of Nsukka defeated the Igalas at lake Omeluigala. A few Igalas settled in Nsukka land afterwards and were absorbed into the Igbo population. However, the Nsukkas still maintain Nri (natively called Nchi/Nshi) origin.

In my first year in the university I had an Igala roommate. The guy seemed to have something against Igbos defeating Igalas in the past and even one time told me that very soon the Igalas will conquer Nsukka land again. grin

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Re: Igbo Speaking Communities In Kogi State by Sirlovings: 3:35pm On Nov 04, 2016
Joavid:
really?? we understand that the Igala's are your brothers so take it easy.

Kogi is the only state bordering almost 5 states cos it situated right in the middle of Nigeria, so tell your Igbo communities to move back to Anambra and stop claiming another state. Edo people did not move from Edo to Kogi and claim it, Gwari people of Abuja didn't do it.
,o

WTF is wrong with you people

you Igbos have issues for real.


Must you exhibit your hatred for Igbo people on every comment?
I understand that you are a young person but being young doesn't mean that you should be dumb.

Creation of regions and later states divided many communities which resulted to many igbo communities falling into neighbouring states that are not predominantly Igbo.

After the civil war, it was another way for Nigeria government to ensure that Igbos remain in a United Nigeria.

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Re: Igbo Speaking Communities In Kogi State by OmoIgala: 3:38pm On Nov 04, 2016
ianSweet:


Ette is an Igala town with Idoma and Igbo migrants. The kingship titles and traditional rulers are in Igala.

Igga and i think Ogurugu towns in Enugu are of Igala origin, they are both billingual in igala and igbo, but because they are in Enugu, they seem to identify as Igbo, am not really sure.

Exactly.
Igga, Ojjor, Ogurugu, Adani are all Original Igala towns that have now been labelled "Igbo" because of silly colonial mistakes.
Re: Igbo Speaking Communities In Kogi State by Lovelynature(m): 3:38pm On Nov 04, 2016
murphyibiam15:


You are 100% correct....Ebonyi has by far the least dialect in Igbo states ....am from Ebonyi...u can see two LGAs in Ebonyi speaking same dialect eg is Ohaozara and Onicha LGA
Nxt is Afikpo-Edda-Amasiri-Uwanna-Apkoha-Enohia who speak an hear same "jokwa' dialects

Down to Ezza-izzi-ikwo who hear and speak same dialect


unlike in Enugu where same LGA like 'Udi' speak diferent dialect e.g Ngwo,UDI town, abor, egede, okpatu,eke all have different dialects

As for Anambra they have lost their dialects to central Igbo probably bc they have more trade involvement which involves using central igbo
Are you from Ohaozara? Southern part of Ebonyi speak and understand themselves, though with little differences. Same with the northern part; they understand themselves.

The northern and southern parts of the state don't even understand themselves.

I have been to both Ebonyi North and South.
That state is really a great one but bad government and lack of sound education keeps her behind.

Can you imagine that Edda is the first place where oil was first discovered in Nigeria
Re: Igbo Speaking Communities In Kogi State by RickyTan: 3:39pm On Nov 04, 2016
Tribes do not stop at Northern army tyrant quota coup-plotting yeye Generals drawn state lines

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Re: Igbo Speaking Communities In Kogi State by Nobody: 3:40pm On Nov 04, 2016
murphyibiam15:


You are 100% correct....Ebonyi has by far the least dialect in Igbo states ....am from Ebonyi...u can see two LGAs in Ebonyi speaking same dialect eg is Ohaozara and Onicha LGA
Nxt is Afikpo-Edda-Amasiri-Uwanna-Apkoha-Enohia who speak an hear same "jokwa' dialects

Down to Ezza-izzi-ikwo who hear and speak same dialect


unlike in Enugu where same LGA like 'Udi' speak diferent dialect e.g Ngwo,UDI town, abor, egede, okpatu,eke all have different dialects

As for Anambra they have lost their dialects to central Igbo probably bc they have more trade involvement which involves using central igbo

Yes I agree with you...Anambra Igbo is central. Abia, Imo, Enugu and Ebonyi, Delta and Rivers have many dialects. What's funny is all these many Igbo dialects speakers even those in Delta like Agbor, and Rivers Ikwerre understand Anambra central Igbo well well. That's why most Rivers marry from Anambra...Peter Odili, Ameachi, Hon. Nwuche, Amadi, I mean all of them that I know marry mostly from Anambra. I lived in PH for 5 yrs, 1 out of every 3 married Ikwerres I knew, married from Anambra or Enugu. We all know Anambra and Enugu are one people except the Nnsuka that have Igala mix up and dialect.

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Re: Igbo Speaking Communities In Kogi State by bigfrancis21: 3:42pm On Nov 04, 2016
ianSweet:


No pls, they speak Igala as a first language and igbo as a second language. Although it varies among some individuals. Some speak igbo more. Some answer igala names, some answer igbo names. I have been to these places. I am from southern igala.

Posh3:


Igga speaks Igbo.... And also answers Igbo names.. I have plenty of them as neighbors here in Karmo, Abuja.
Re: Igbo Speaking Communities In Kogi State by Nobody: 3:42pm On Nov 04, 2016
scholes0:


So in a civil war 'God forbid", Yorubas will be the ones running into Igbo communities?
Clap for yourself.

Out of ignorance thinking it's their imaginary SS with no Igbos.

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Re: Igbo Speaking Communities In Kogi State by OmoIgala: 3:44pm On Nov 04, 2016
bigfrancis21:


Aren't the Idomas in the majority in Ette, followed by Igala? Then Igbo? It seems to me that the Igalas are trying to lay ownership to Ette town as they seem to be doing to other places of recent.

Ette is 50 / 50 Idoma /Igala then Igbo
But in Eastern Kogi, Idoma and Igala share more or less the same Identity. Many of the Idomas have adopted Igala names and customs, because it seems to be the stronger of the two cultures.
Re: Igbo Speaking Communities In Kogi State by bigfrancis21: 3:46pm On Nov 04, 2016
Clinton9000:


Yes I agree with you...Anambra Igbo is central. Abia, Imo, Enugu and Ebonyi, Delta and Rivers have many dialects. What's funny is all these many Igbo dialects speakers even those in Delta like Agbor, and Rivers Ikwerre understand Anambra central Igbo well well. That's why most Rivers marry from Anambra...Peter Odili, Ameachi, Hon. Nwuche, Amadi, I mean all of them that I know marry mostly from Anambra. I lived in PH for 5 yrs, 1 out of every 3 married Ikwerres I knew, married from Anambra or Enugu. We all know Anambra and Enugu are one people except the Nnsuka that have Igala mix up and dialect.

Anambra Igbo is not central. I am just hearing this for the first time. I am from Anambra. We speak and maintain our various 'Anambra dialects' which are similar to each other. Onitsha Igbo is easily understandable by most in Anambra and Igboland but it is not central Igbo. Also, observing Onitsha and central Igbo, you would find out both are similar in sentence lexicon but many words in central Igbo come from southern Igboland - Umuahia etc.

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Re: Igbo Speaking Communities In Kogi State by kogirodent: 3:48pm On Nov 04, 2016
mengho:
igbos trying hard to relate to some far off people, ok we get It, kogi is part of Biafra as Well, I think dats what you want right
Igbos are not far off from Igalas bro. Some of the folks i know as Igalas i will have to admit are not full or real Igalas. We dn't need to look at them twice to know dat dey hail from the Igbo border areas. De only issue is that there are of mixed ancestry so u can't say which tribe dey really are. E.g Ibaji and Odolu Igalas.

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Re: Igbo Speaking Communities In Kogi State by scholes0(m): 3:49pm On Nov 04, 2016
Clinton9000:


Out of ignorance thinking it's their imaginary SS with no Igbos.

lol.. Just listen to yourself.
The average Yoruba does not even care if SS is 100% Igbo, to them Ibibio and Igbo are the same... Go to Ibadan and ask the difference between Akpan and Emeka if they will know.
On the contrary, the SS people are the ones fiercely and jealously guarding their unique ethnic identities. And rightly so.

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Re: Igbo Speaking Communities In Kogi State by kogirodent: 3:51pm On Nov 04, 2016
OmoIgala:


Ette is 50 / 50 Idoma /Igala then Igbo
But in Eastern Kogi, Idoma and Igala share more or less the same Identity. Many of the Idomas have adopted Igala names and customs, because it seems to be the stronger of the two cultures.
Atta egbiti na gwe! Ukolo ha? Abo ugbo eche ta?
Re: Igbo Speaking Communities In Kogi State by danbrowndmf(m): 3:52pm On Nov 04, 2016
Observing as a kogi boy. Very educative something. Cc fenzyflames

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Re: Igbo Speaking Communities In Kogi State by OmoIgala: 3:52pm On Nov 04, 2016
kogirodent:

Atta egbiti na gwe! Ukolo ha? Abo ugbo eche ta?

Abo Igalamela-Odolu u che.
Agba o, Omaye mi.

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Re: Igbo Speaking Communities In Kogi State by bigfrancis21: 3:52pm On Nov 04, 2016
OmoIgala:


Ette is 50 / 50 Idoma /Igala then Igbo
But in Eastern Kogi, Idoma and Igala share more or less the same Identity. Many of the Idomas have adopted Igala names and customs, because it seems to be the stronger of the two cultures.

Ette as a community speak three different languages. While a large population of Ette people speak Idoma language, others speak Igbo and Igala. This had been the situation right from the old Eastern Region through the defunct East Central State, to old Anambra State; old Enugu State and now the present Enugu State. Christians, who are of the Catholic denomination had also been in the Immaculate Heart Parish, Aji, Enugu–Ezike in the Catholic Archdiocese of Nsukka until it became a full fledged parish – St. James the Apostle Parish, Ette, on September 28,1998.

Read more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/06/34-enugu-schools-shut-for-5-yrs-over-pro-kogi-agitations/
Re: Igbo Speaking Communities In Kogi State by Auspharm(m): 3:52pm On Nov 04, 2016
Joavid:
really?? we understand that the Igala's are your brothers so take it easy.

Kogi is the only state bordering almost 5 states cos it situated right in the middle of Nigeria, so tell your Igbo communities to move back to Anambra and stop claiming another state. Edo people did not move from Edo to Kogi and claim it, Gwari people of Abuja didn't do it.
,o

WTF is wrong with you people

you Igbos have issues for real.
sister ! Must u b tribalistic abt everything ?
Someone is doing a study and u are here ranting poo.

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