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Re: How Vulcanizers In Nigeria Are Killing People by Kanyekels(m): 10:31am On Nov 14, 2016
bastien:
This thing na copy and paste, e don make front page before

You are very intelligent. This is the original post which i copied and saved for future purposes.

Re: How Vulcanizers In Nigeria Are Killing People by shumuel(m): 10:34am On Nov 14, 2016
legendsilver:
*Vulcanizers in Nigeria are killing people*

IMPORTANT INFORMATION TO ALL VEHICLE USERS!

Good day sir/ma. Many people have been wondering what could be the cause of the incessant tyre burst accidents on Nigerian roads. The major cause is that we put too much pressure in our tyres. How did I know?

I was preparing for a journey, I changed some of my tyres and I asked the vulcanizer that 'what is the recommended tyre pressure?' He said 50. I said alright, he should inflate it to 50 all round.

When I got to where I was going, I was discussing with some people on the issue of the minister that died on the road due to a burst tyre and wonder what could have happened because nobody could imagine a minister would be travelling with expired tyres as many would think is the major cause of tyre bursts.

A man (lived in US for many years) said that the major cause of tyre burst in Nigeria is that we put too much pressure in our tyres and that each car has recommended tyre size and pressure clearly written on it by the manufacturer.

*I was surprised and begged him to come and show me where it's written on my car. To my greatest surprise, it's by the drivers door which I enter everyday without noticing it.*

By the time we checked, the recommended pressure for my tyres is 32! and I just traveled with tyres on a pressure of 50! He took me round his compound and showed me that of the cars (which includes a jeep and a sienna) there, the highest was 32. Some were even 29!

He further explained that tyres are made of rubber and expand at high temperature. So, when you are travelling in the afternoon when the asphalt on the road is hot, the tyre will want to expand. If the pressure in the tyre is too much and wouldn't accommodate the expansion, a burst is likely to happen at that time.

Pls check the recommended tyre pressure for your vehicle and others you know.

As many as possible Nigerians need to read this.
thanks



Very informative Op, but unfortunately we are in Nigeria where there are bad roads, pot holes everywhere, Clay & muddy roads, so when the Kazeems tell you its 50 you better listen and forget all the grammer and language the manufactures had writen, they didn't test the cars and tyres in Nigeria, on Nigerian roads, by a Nigerian driver. But why are these guys quick to say its 50
Re: How Vulcanizers In Nigeria Are Killing People by modsRbastard: 10:37am On Nov 14, 2016
JustCalMeDBoss:
Omo no one is killing anyone, don't take ur car to a road side vulcanizer and xpect u are dealing with a professional. I had a boss who wanted to change his 2016 bmw x6m types. He went about insulting every tyre seller the have substandard tires since the idrive software was always rejecting the types behold the recommended threw was 21 inch Michelin pilot super sports it cost about 600 dollars for one the list price they agreed to import it for him is 330,000 Naira per tyre times that by 4 and u are over 1.3 million. No be persn tell am say make him use the Nigerian ones like dat. Despite the idrive system saying wrong types.


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Re: How Vulcanizers In Nigeria Are Killing People by ephi123(f): 10:41am On Nov 14, 2016
eleojo23:
So what happened to Nairaland this morning?
I was unable to log in for a while making it difficult to comment on a thread. It kept saying 'forum is in read-only mode'

I thought my account was banned sef

Is it a routine maintenance?

I just hope it's not another tsunami from cyber terrorists.

Same here. Also periodically getting the message below:

Error 502 Ray ID: 301980e505b50749 • 2016-11-14 09:40:43 UTC
Bad gateway
Re: How Vulcanizers In Nigeria Are Killing People by kolajoo(m): 10:43am On Nov 14, 2016
kingreign:

You went for the brakes immediately the tyre blew hence the rollover. Next time, (which I do NOT pray for) don't go anywhere near the brakes, instead, push the accelerator harder while holding the steering firmly and staying calm then ease off the throttle pedal. The accelerative force will negate any lateral force acting upon the vehicle to swerve in either left or right till it balances and starts a rapid slow down
Thanks for the hint but I was high motion cruising on 110/120 when it happened. I just thank God for gift life cos no one is perfect.
Re: How Vulcanizers In Nigeria Are Killing People by jadatis: 10:46am On Nov 14, 2016
As Pigheaded Dutch Selfdeclared Tyrepressure-specialist I have a different opinion about it.
The 50 psi maximum cold pressure, written on sidewall of many normal car tires and XL/reinforced/Extraload, is cold pressure and the rising of pressure by rising of temperature in tire, is included in the advice.

On American RV forum I once read from one who did much tyre work, that tyres are tested to can stand 2 to 3 times the pressure needed for maximum load wich is lower then that 50 psi max cold.
On LT tyres ( Lighttruck) and Trucktires they give this pressure mostly like this " maximum load xxxx kg/lbs AT yyy psi/kPa ( cold)", thats why I will call it furtheron the AT-pressure .
Normal car tires ( standard load=SL) and XL// give as exeption on sidewall the maximum allowed cold pressure ( 44 or 50 psi or XL sometimes 60psi) but the AT pressure is SL USAsystem 35psi and EUR system 36psi with exeptions to lower, for XL// AT USA 41 psi and EUR 42psi with exeptions.

So filling to 50 psi should not give tyre-damage by itself.
What mostly does the damage to the tyre is using to low pressure.
Then the tire deflects to much so produces to much heat in the rubber wich hardens it and crackes in next bendings so deflections.
Realise that at about 50m/80km/h every segment of the tyre deflects and flexes back about 10 times a second, wich produces heat .
Once the damage is done by to high temperature of rubber, and filled with higher pressure, the tyre damages quicker and you can wayt for a blowing tyre. And then the high pressure gets the blame , while in fact the to low pressure did the damage.

I think most cars in your country have pretty oversised tyres wich allow a low pressure , mayby even as low as 20 psi, and then this overheating still wont happen. But offroad tyres have often large profile-blocks that cover a part of sidewall, wich make them produce more heat at critical rings of tyre, so the maximum load given on sidewall is to high given by tyremaker, they give same maxload as a road tire with no profile blocks covering the sidewall.
This last makes that you would need a higher pressure to give lesser deflection so lesser heatproduction.
My estimation is that you should lower the maximum load of such a tyre by even 20% or lower the Loadindex with 8 LI steps.

This all means that you need higher pressure but not as high as 50 psi.
But this 50 psi cold is not bad for the tire if its filled from the beginning.
Only puctures can get sooner, and comfort and gripp is bad, but then blowing tyre by overheating wont happen.
Critical rings of tyre are where sidewall goes over to treath, there the isolation is more by the thicker rubber and the rubber can reach a higher temp wich does the damage. Then treath seperation is often seen.

will give self made picture of the offroad tires to show what I mean. One combined on/off-road and an even more ofroad tyre, to show what I mean with the large profile blocks, seen pictures about them tearing apart yust round the profile blocks at the thinner part of sidewall.

Re: How Vulcanizers In Nigeria Are Killing People by davbravo(m): 10:57am On Nov 14, 2016
eleojo23:
So what happened to Nairaland this morning?
I was unable to log in for a while making it difficult to comment on a thread. It kept saying 'forum is in read-only mode'

I thought my account was banned sef

Is it a routine maintenance?

I just hope it's not another tsunami from cyber terrorists.
yeah, I experienced that too.... was wondering why
Re: How Vulcanizers In Nigeria Are Killing People by Riddler32: 11:14am On Nov 14, 2016
legendsilver:
*Vulcanizers in Nigeria are killing people*

IMPORTANT INFORMATION TO ALL VEHICLE USERS!

Good day sir/ma. Many people have been wondering what could be the cause of the incessant tyre burst accidents on Nigerian roads. The major cause is that we put too much pressure in our tyres. How did I know?

I was preparing for a journey, I changed some of my tyres and I asked the vulcanizer that 'what is the recommended tyre pressure?' He said 50. I said alright, he should inflate it to 50 all round.

When I got to where I was going, I was discussing with some people on the issue of the minister that died on the road due to a burst tyre and wonder what could have happened because nobody could imagine a minister would be travelling with expired tyres as many would think is the major cause of tyre bursts.

A man (lived in US for many years) said that the major cause of tyre burst in Nigeria is that we put too much pressure in our tyres and that each car has recommended tyre size and pressure clearly written on it by the manufacturer.

*I was surprised and begged him to come and show me where it's written on my car. To my greatest surprise, it's by the drivers door which I enter everyday without noticing it.*

By the time we checked, the recommended pressure for my tyres is 32! and I just traveled with tyres on a pressure of 50! He took me round his compound and showed me that of the cars (which includes a jeep and a sienna) there, the highest was 32. Some were even 29!

He further explained that tyres are made of rubber and expand at high temperature. So, when you are travelling in the afternoon when the asphalt on the road is hot, the tyre will want to expand. If the pressure in the tyre is too much and wouldn't accommodate the expansion, a burst is likely to happen at that time.

Pls check the recommended tyre pressure for your vehicle and others you know.

As many as possible Nigerians need to read this.
thanks

Seun, lalastica, ishiluv and all the other mod pls let's save life here o by doing the needful

Dear Poster, it is good that you are just realizing that there are certain air pressure for tyres. I got to know this when i was little as a child. My dad was always at logger head with vulcanizers until he met a professional. That relationship between my dad and his vulcanizer has waxed for 25 years and more. Whenever i visit home, i pay a humble visit to the vulcanizer at his workshop (sad i dont know his house) and in return i get a handsome reward from him.

To this end, stick to your tyre pressure inscribed on the chassis of your vehicle and lecture the vulcanizer because it is your life, and money.

Stay safe in this festival season guys.
Re: How Vulcanizers In Nigeria Are Killing People by ademolalekan5: 11:21am On Nov 14, 2016
It's not only on the drivers door u can as well see it written boldly on the tyres. but pple don't care to check
Re: How Vulcanizers In Nigeria Are Killing People by bastien: 11:29am On Nov 14, 2016
Kanyekels:


You are very intelligent. This is the original post which i copied and saved for future purposes.
lol, I talk am, the OP come write am like say na him get the article
Re: How Vulcanizers In Nigeria Are Killing People by TheAlchemist: 11:33am On Nov 14, 2016
Is it only over inflation of the air pressure in the tyre, what of the problem of wrong screwing of the nuts... i am still in shock that a vulcanizer could improperly screw 2 Nuts out of 5 Nuts wrongly, while fixing back my tyre.... when i had a flat tyre i was informed that two of the nuts was not aligned with the thread on the bolt, lucky they managed to unscrew one but could not unscrew the second, because, it had melted to the bolt, on the disk plate, so they had to condemn one of the bolt... i was advised to see a panel beater to weld another bolt, on the disk plate.
Re: How Vulcanizers In Nigeria Are Killing People by kingreign(m): 11:38am On Nov 14, 2016
kolajoo:
Thanks for the hint but I was high motion cruising on 110/120 when it happened. I just thank God for gift life cos no one is perfect.

110/120km/h in an interstate highway isn't a very fast speed. Except you're talking about 110/120MPH. All same, thanks to God.
Re: How Vulcanizers In Nigeria Are Killing People by Sunsets: 11:56am On Nov 14, 2016
The best place to check tyre pressure is on the tyre itself. Some cars have had their tyres upgraded to a bigger size of higher psi.
legendsilver:
*Vulcanizers in Nigeria are killing people*

IMPORTANT INFORMATION TO ALL VEHICLE USERS!

Good day sir/ma. Many people have been wondering what could be the cause of the incessant tyre burst accidents on Nigerian roads. The major cause is that we put too much pressure in our tyres. How did I know?

I was preparing for a journey, I changed some of my tyres and I asked the vulcanizer that 'what is the recommended tyre pressure?' He said 50. I said alright, he should inflate it to 50 all round.

When I got to where I was going, I was discussing with some people on the issue of the minister that died on the road due to a burst tyre and wonder what could have happened because nobody could imagine a minister would be travelling with expired tyres as many would think is the major cause of tyre bursts.

A man (lived in US for many years) said that the major cause of tyre burst in Nigeria is that we put too much pressure in our tyres and that each car has recommended tyre size and pressure clearly written on it by the manufacturer.

*I was surprised and begged him to come and show me where it's written on my car. To my greatest surprise, it's by the drivers door which I enter everyday without noticing it.*

By the time we checked, the recommended pressure for my tyres is 32! and I just traveled with tyres on a pressure of 50! He took me round his compound and showed me that of the cars (which includes a jeep and a sienna) there, the highest was 32. Some were even 29!

He further explained that tyres are made of rubber and expand at high temperature. So, when you are travelling in the afternoon when the asphalt on the road is hot, the tyre will want to expand. If the pressure in the tyre is too much and wouldn't accommodate the expansion, a burst is likely to happen at that time.

Pls check the recommended tyre pressure for your vehicle and others you know.

As many as possible Nigerians need to read this.
thanks

Seun, lalastica, ishiluv and all the other mod pls let's save life here o by doing the needful
Re: How Vulcanizers In Nigeria Are Killing People by nd07(m): 11:58am On Nov 14, 2016
I really Appreciate ur information OP, but i detest people falsely accusing people because d accused is nowhere to defend himself. accusing a dead minister of traveling with an expired tire is uncalled for. if i'm not mistaken, u r refering to d accident of James Ocholi that claimed his life, his wife's & his son along Kaduna-Abuja highway, leaving the driver & his aid unhurt. If this is what u mean by a minister traveling with an expired tire, u r damn too wrong, research well before u spread ur Info please.
Re: How Vulcanizers In Nigeria Are Killing People by BrainnewsNg(f): 12:00pm On Nov 14, 2016
Caseless:
No one is regulating them. Isn't there where road safety and VIO should start from?

Good one there

So what is the way forward?
Re: How Vulcanizers In Nigeria Are Killing People by prettigurl16(f): 12:01pm On Nov 14, 2016
Typical of Nigerians. Blame everyone else but yourself. Does the vulcanizer have a car? Did he even go to school to learn his trade? Something as basic and important as tyres and safety is still left in the hands of an illiterate. Why would you have money to buy a car but won't spend 1hr to read the manual? Lazy bone.

Here, you drive into a fuel station and put pressure into your tyres YOURSELF and it is free. Nigerians and big man mentality. The vulcanizer is not the problem. Cure yourself of your laziness and live longer.

.
Re: How Vulcanizers In Nigeria Are Killing People by DonaTee(f): 12:02pm On Nov 14, 2016
Caseless:
No one is regulating them. Isn't there where road safety and VIO should start from?

so dat they will start arresting n ticketing ignorant n innocent pple?
even d vio n road safety car tyres r pumped to 45/50

Mass public education n jingles is d right n first step in such issues
Re: How Vulcanizers In Nigeria Are Killing People by kingreign(m): 12:13pm On Nov 14, 2016
TheAlchemist:
Is it only over inflation of air, what of the problem of wrong screwing of the nuts... i am still in shock that a vulcanizer could improperly screw 2 Nuts out of 5 Nuts wrongly, while fixing back my tyre.... when i had a flat tyre i was informed that two of the nuts was not aligned with the thread on the bolt, lucky they managed to unscrew one but could not unscrew the second, because, it had melted to the bolt, on the disk plate, so they had to condemn one of the bolt... i was advised to see a panel beater to weld another bolt, on the disk plate.

You don't weld studs. You install same type same size by driving it into the bearing on that wheel affected. Welds will break off again later.
Re: How Vulcanizers In Nigeria Are Killing People by kingreign(m): 12:14pm On Nov 14, 2016
Sunsets:
The best place to check tyre pressure is on the tyre itself. Some cars have had their tyres upgraded to a bigger size of higher psi.
STOP giving off wrong info
Re: How Vulcanizers In Nigeria Are Killing People by madjune(m): 12:15pm On Nov 14, 2016
So true.

Ignorance amd illiteracy are the highest killers in Nigeria.
Re: How Vulcanizers In Nigeria Are Killing People by millhouse: 12:15pm On Nov 14, 2016
goo
Re: How Vulcanizers In Nigeria Are Killing People by Emassive(m): 12:29pm On Nov 14, 2016
Mine is always on 45 and I Travel with it all the time...
Re: How Vulcanizers In Nigeria Are Killing People by SWORD419(m): 12:32pm On Nov 14, 2016
some will fill their tyres till it becomes hard like stone
Re: How Vulcanizers In Nigeria Are Killing People by ekanDamie: 12:39pm On Nov 14, 2016
ikotun1987:
Just check mine now it's 31,oga ooo don't even know for more than 3y that I have been moving around with my car
picture of where u saw it pls
Re: How Vulcanizers In Nigeria Are Killing People by assana: 12:42pm On Nov 14, 2016
This info is a true and very correct, same tyre burst happen to my company's trust 2wice 2weeks ago, and the tyres and all new tyres, the driver confessed to pumping the tyre too much.
Re: How Vulcanizers In Nigeria Are Killing People by JustCalMeDBoss(m): 12:46pm On Nov 14, 2016
munas:


Na over sabi dey worry am.
If he can afford 2016 bmw x6m for over 30million,he should be able to buy tyres of 1.3 m

The car is about $120,000
Re: How Vulcanizers In Nigeria Are Killing People by legendsilver(m): 1:13pm On Nov 14, 2016
bastien:
lol, I talk am, the OP come write am like say na him get the article
i am here to save lifes because knowledge is power. sorry if you feel pained about this cause the message had already been passed and the comments from fellow nairalanders says it all. tongue tongue tongue tongue tongue tongue tongue tongue tongue tongue
Re: How Vulcanizers In Nigeria Are Killing People by bastien: 2:23pm On Nov 14, 2016
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legendsilver:

i am here to save lifes because knowledge is power. sorry if you feel pained about this cause the message had already been passed and the comments from fellow nairalanders says it all. tongue tongue tongue tongue tongue tongue tongue tongue tongue tongue
Re: How Vulcanizers In Nigeria Are Killing People by Analysiscorner: 4:29pm On Nov 14, 2016
legendsilver:
*Vulcanizers in Nigeria are killing people*

IMPORTANT INFORMATION TO ALL VEHICLE USERS!

Good day sir/ma. Many people have been wondering what could be the cause of the incessant tyre burst accidents on Nigerian roads. The major cause is that we put too much pressure in our tyres. How did I know?

I was preparing for a journey, I changed some of my tyres and I asked the vulcanizer that 'what is the recommended tyre pressure?' He said 50. I said alright, he should inflate it to 50 all round.

When I got to where I was going, I was discussing with some people on the issue of the minister that died on the road due to a burst tyre and wonder what could have happened because nobody could imagine a minister would be travelling with expired tyres as many would think is the major cause of tyre bursts.

A man (lived in US for many years) said that the major cause of tyre burst in Nigeria is that we put too much pressure in our tyres and that each car has recommended tyre size and pressure clearly written on it by the manufacturer.

*I was surprised and begged him to come and show me where it's written on my car. To my greatest surprise, it's by the drivers door which I enter everyday without noticing it.*

By the time we checked, the recommended pressure for my tyres is 32! and I just traveled with tyres on a pressure of 50! He took me round his compound and showed me that of the cars (which includes a jeep and a sienna) there, the highest was 32. Some were even 29!

He further explained that tyres are made of rubber and expand at high temperature. So, when you are travelling in the afternoon when the asphalt on the road is hot, the tyre will want to expand. If the pressure in the tyre is too much and wouldn't accommodate the expansion, a burst is likely to happen at that time.

Pls check the recommended tyre pressure for your vehicle and others you know.

As many as possible Nigerians need to read this.
thanks

Seun, lalastica, ishiluv and all the other mod pls let's save life here o by doing the needful

Thankyou very much!
Re: How Vulcanizers In Nigeria Are Killing People by Caseless: 9:09pm On Nov 14, 2016
DonaTee:


so dat they will start arresting n ticketing ignorant n innocent pple?
even d vio n road safety car tyres r pumped to 45/50

Mass public education n jingles is d right n first step in such issues
grin grin grin
Re: How Vulcanizers In Nigeria Are Killing People by Caseless: 9:13pm On Nov 14, 2016
BrainnewsNg:


Good one there

So what is the way forward?
the way forward: my reply below is what I think should be done.





BIDOO:

hmm, still wondering why you reason like this ! You mean by carrying gauge upadan?
does FRSC go around with "speed-regulating" device before they regulate motorists?

I'm talking about enlightenment, a body should be formed through which the authority can reach them and, they must have the license to operate after being certified by an agency under which they fall through presentation of needed equipment to operate and meet the standard.
Re: How Vulcanizers In Nigeria Are Killing People by sheantip(m): 9:25pm On Nov 14, 2016
kingreign:

STOP giving off wrong info
kingreign:

You don't weld studs. You install same type same size by driving it into the bearing on that wheel affected. Welds will break off again later.
kingreign:

STOP giving off wrong info
I got diff psi on tire and on car itself. which do u advice I go for?

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