Look at how they are just disfiguring their faces especially the ladies u will see a beautiful girl well shaped with an horrible tribal mark. Thats y the beautiful ones with it cant go for beauty pageants.

Mary kay foundation can't cover this

RIZLER:
Na wa ooo the afonja mentioned on this thread fit reach 100

AFONJA i dey tell you ooo

sava2:
This bill becomes law by today.

All state most have state I'd card.

The issue of tinubu and lagos. If lagos had an I'd card, tinubu would never governor.


I respect Mr Ben Bruce for going back to bayelsa to run for election.


I have no respect for Mr eyitayo jedege. Who does not want to go back to bayelsa state to run

you need understand what is written in ur constitution. An Igbo, Hausa, Yoruba, Ijaw man can be the governor of any state provided they reside in that state and contribute meaningfully for a period of either 10 or 15yrs.

Ecosystem4u:
That explains why AFONJAS pride in RITUALISM. They dont see blood as anything. Just look at that little baby in PAINS. SOPHISTICATED AFONJAS.

That is not a typical Yoruba tribal mark. Not at all.

Tribal Bigot!!!!!!!

lordyugo:



u consider that facial mutilation as not being harmful? From bacteria infections to excruciating pains for a toddler and dnt forget d psychological trauma wen d baby grows up.
we all support traditions nd culture but dr is a thin line bw a babaric act and traditions.
Its a pressing issue cos lil drops of water makes an ocean

I consider this particular case beyond the line. But one of my major points from my write up was that "you do not kill a fly with a sledgehammer " The fact that some have done it wrongly does not mean the whole system should be scrapped. That is my point.
Should we ban guns because robbers use it to kill and maime?
Should we ban circumcision because some tribes do it in a crude and septic way?
Should we ban ear, tongue, umbilical piercings because some abuse it?
There is a saying in Bini language that if you gorge out your eyes in order not to see your enemies, you won't have eyes to see your friends...
What we need is regulations, not total proscription.

Temptee101:
No wonder most of these afonjaz dey dull, vain, irrational and unreasonable after they must have scrapped their brains in the name of tribal marks when they were infants

The stench of your verbal excrement is murderous. I wonder why you people revel in ethnic bigotry and excessive tribalism. You jump into a thread and instead of doing justice to topics, you launch into a barrage of hasty generalization about a whole tribe. What has education taught you?!

eyinjuege:
Yes, I believe tribal marks should be stopped on children. If as an adult you want one, that's absolutely fine.
But NL people, what sayeth thou about MALE CIRCUMCISION in children?

Male circumcision has medical benefits. There are even "emergency circumcisions" You can read more about it online, maybe wikipedia.

Where would Nigeria be without Super Dino!

thesicilian:
We have more pressing issues in this country right
now than attacking traditional values and norms. In as much as his "quest" may be borne out of good intent, I'm very sure when his constituency elected him into the senate, this was not what they had in mind.
Second, the practice of killing flies with sledgehammers should be discouraged in this country. The fact that a particular family or tribe has decided to "take it to the next level" does not mean a harmless tradition should be wiped out altogether. On many occasions you don't even know it is there unless you look very closely.

This is not a harmless tradition. The child doesn't have a say on this and it's very wrong. It should be scraped.... Females with this mark look ugly to me.

thesicilian:

What makes a comment "useless"? Is it because there are no messages being passed across, or that you don't agree with it, or what?
Don't bother to answer - it's rhetorical.

Or the message passed is inhumane and not sensible.

thesicilian:

Male circumcision has medical benefits. There are even "emergency circumcisions" You can read more about it online, maybe wikipedia.

Male circumcision is done more for cultural and religious religions. Very few cases done as emergency. The benefits may outweigh the risk when compared ( only because the art has been perfected when done by professionals- risks like bleeding, infections, damage to the urethra and the male organ itself are minimal but still present) but its mainly done for cultural and religious and most importantly these days aesthetic reasons.
The reasons male circumsions are done particularly in our settings is definitely not for medical reasons if we're gonna be honest with ourselves...

ebby9z:

The stench of your verbal excrement is murderous. I wonder why you people revel in ethnic bigotry and excessive tribalism. You jump into a thread and instead of doing justice to topics, you launch into a barrage of hasty generalization about a whole tribe. What has education taught you?!

shut up! You afonjas are the problem of the south so any available means to pay you guys back in your own coin is welcome. Backstabbers!

Never wanted to comment on this thread bt you made it possible

Nonsense

impossible27:

I think male circumcisions should be done when the male child is small. let put religion out of this. Have you ever asked someone who has been circumcised when he is an adult how the pain is? very painful And if you did not circumcise him at all and he grows up, e get as how him dickk go de . If you have visit north you will know what am talking avout.

Yes. it is good to leave the child to make his dicision on both tribal mark and circumcision when he has grown up. but it will be very hard for him to agree to be circumsised because he knows the pain. Insted of him to suffer the pain when he is an adult , why dont you circumcise him when he is a baby, so that everything will be over with.

Have you ever asked those adults who have tribal marks what the pain was like when they had it? Most also dont remember because they had it done in childhood.
I do see adults come to be circumcised, but its done under anaesthesia/sedation. They are put to sleep, and are not aware of it. We have enough pain killers to make it non painful after surgery.
Do you believe that children especially neonates used to have surgery in the past without any form of anaesthesia? Something about their pain pathway/ them being unable to remember pain. I feel that's barbaric btw.
Anyway, my point is if that child was taken to a hospital, put under anaesthesia so he doesn't feel the pain during and after surgery, done under sterile conditions does it make it more acceptable to give tribal marks?
At least we've dealt with the issue of pain, so that's no longer an excuse.

The afonja mention on this thread is overwhelming...lol. As a matter of fact kind of tribal I guess is common among the igbira ppl of kogi state...

thesicilian:

I consider this particular case beyond the line. But one of my major points from my write up was that "you do not kill a fly with a sledgehammer " The fact that some have done it wrongly does not mean the whole system should be scrapped. That is my point.
Should we ban guns because robbers use it to kill and maime?
Should we ban circumcision because some tribes do it in a crude and septic way?
Should we ban ear, tongue, umbilical piercings because some abuse it?
There is a saying in Bini language that if you gorge out your eyes in order not to see your enemies, you won't have eyes to see your friends...
What we need is regulations, not total proscription.

all the examples u listed relates to life(pple need guns to defend themselves or law enforcement to secure pples safety.
circumcision relates to hygiene and health.
piercings to differentiate gender or decorative purposes and tongue and navel piercings are done wit consent.
I dnt see wat purpose facial mutilation serves, not all traditions should be permissible.
Killing of twins, albinos ,genital mutilation wr once babaric traditions bt no longer tolerated.

nwasinachi:
In this 21st century? oh afonja!

lols igbo bitches and dogs how far

eyinjuege:


Male circumcision is done more for cultural and religious religions. Very few cases done as emergency. The benefits may outweigh the risk when compared ( only because the art has been perfected when done by professionals- risks like bleeding, infections, damage to the urethra and the male organ itself are minimal but still present) but its mainly done for cultural and religious and most importantly these days aesthetic reasons.
The reasons male circumsions are done particularly in our settings is definitely not for medical reasons if we're gonna be honest with ourselves...

I agree with you completely. The dangers associated with circumcisions have been markedly reduced by the simple act of placing it in the hands of professionals - Doctors, Nurses, trained midwives etc. What if we do the same with Tribal/Scarification marks? For example, "if it has to be done, must not be more than 2 separate marks, each not more than 1cm long, must be done in a hospital/clinic under aseptic conditions by licensed health professionals, etc" (as in, just saying).
I have a tribal mark. I know when I was given - I was about 3yrs old then. I can remember it pained me, but not for more than 2 or 3hrs. I remember that day vividly. Its not that bad if properly done.

id911:



shut up! You afonjas are the problem of the south so any available means to pay you guys back in your own coin is welcome. Backstabbers!

Never wanted to comment on this thread bt you made it possible

Why can't u deal with ur own issues urself na. Do u need the so called afonja support b4 u could achieve anything? Abi why the cry of betrayer na..

apanproperties:




This is not a harmless tradition. The child doesn't have a say on this and it's very wrong. It should be scraped.... Females with this mark look ugly to me.

It is completely harmless if done within reason. This one went overboard thus the outcry against it

thesicilian:

I agree with you completely. The dangers associated with circumcisions have been markedly reduced by the simple act of placing it in the hands of professionals - Doctors, Nurses, trained midwives etc. What if we do the same with Tribal/Scarification marks? For example, "if it has to be done, must not be more than 2 separate marks, each not more than 1cm long, must be done in a hospital/clinic under aseptic conditions by licensed health professionals, etc" (as in, just saying).
I have a tribal mark. I know when I was given - I was about 3yrs old then. I can remember it pained me, but not for more than 2 or 3hrs. I remember that day vividly. Its not that bad if properly done.

Yeah, but I think the decision shouldn't be made for the child. If you want to as an adult,good for you. Even if you want it to come from your scalp, nose, forehead, everywhere all over your face its still OK by me provided its your choice as an adult.
Some people have tattoos all over their face, as in all over. A bit strange, but its their choice

Oblang:


Why can't u deal with ur own issues urself na. Do u need the so called afonja support b4 u could achieve anything? Abi why the cry of betrayer na..

we don't need your support. Continue to be a perpetual slave to hausa/fulani by putting even a nonentity like buhari in power. Don't be surprised they might deal with your god tinubu the way they dealt with kudirat, diya, abiola and the rest

Barbaric! Inhuman!! Demonic!!! ...the only laudable thing i've heard about dino.

id911:


we don't need your support. Continue to be a perpetual slave to hausa/fulani by putting even a nonentity like buhari in power. Don't be surprised they might deal with your god tinubu the way they dealt with kudirat, diya, abiola and the rest

Now tell me how that's ur business. Why u come dey cry of betrayal upandan...

Bere Town- Ibadan and Tribal Mark

Oblang:
The afonja mention on this thread is overwhelming...lol. As a matter of fact kind of tribal I guess is common among the igbira ppl of kogi state...

Whether Igbira or Agbara, what is wrong is wrong. You us to start rejoicing because the poor child is not Afonja... Okwaya?

maj007:


That is not a typical Yoruba tribal mark. Not at all.

Tribal Bigot!!!!!!!

. Pay no attention to them, they al are shouting yoruba tribal marks, i dunno if dey'r unaware dat some other tribes have this as a part of their culture or dey'r just lukin for something with which to spite d yorubas. Lol. I dnt support tribal marks anyway, its a violation of human rights. And I think d enlightenment of this age shd change things

Whiskers ugly afonja face

thesicilian:
We have more pressing issues in this country right
now than attacking traditional values and norms. In as much as his "quest" may be borne out of good intent, I'm very sure when his constituency elected him into the senate, this was not what they had in mind.
Second, the practice of killing flies with sledgehammers should be discouraged in this country. The fact that a particular family or tribe has decided to "take it to the next level" does not mean a harmless tradition should be wiped out altogether. On many occasions you don't even know it is there unless you look very closely.

I don't like you for this comment...
I assume you have a fine face.
Now, imagine growing up looking like a pussy cat. How will you feel or see the people that made such a life-lasting decision for you without seeking your consent.
Yes, if people want to have tribal marks, i feel such persons should be allowed to grow old enough to decide if they want it or not.
Also, what is tradition? let me tell you. Anything you do today and repeat tomorrow is already tradition. There is no rule that makes what Mr. A did in 1805 to automatically supersede what Mr. B will do in 2016.
Mr. A propably started the practice of tribal marks as it was a means of identity then. The same way Mr. A was wearing banana leaves. However when proper clothes came into existance, Mr. B dumped wearing leaves. My guy, tell me why Mr B cannot as well dump tribal marks ?

It's makes no sense to uphold total rubbish in the name of tradition.. You and i will become ancestors tomorrow and whatever we do today becomes tradition tomorrow. So phucckkk the barbaric ways of thy fore-fathers cos they don't mean sh!t..

stpaul48:


I don't like you for this comment...
I assume you have a fine face.
Now, imagine growing up looking like a pussy cat. How will you feel or see the people that made such a life-lasting decision for you without seeking your consent.
Yes, if people want to have tribal marks, i feel such persons should be allowed to grow old enough to decide if they want it or not.
Also, what is tradition? let me tell you. Anything you do today and repeat tomorrow is already tradition. There is no rule that makes what Mr. A did in 1805 to automatically supersede what Mr. B will do in 2016.
Mr. A propably started the practice of tribal marks as it was a means of identity then. The same way Mr. A was wearing banana leaves. However when proper clothes came into existance, Mr. B dumped wearing leaves. My guy, tell me why Mr B cannot as well dump tribal marks ?

It's makes no sense to uphold total rubbish in the name of tradition.. You and i will become ancestors tomorrow and whatever we do today becomes tradition tomorrow. So phucckkk the barbaric ways of thy fore-fathers cos they don't mean sh!t..

I assume you meant to say you don't like my comment/opinion, rather than the way you put it, since you hardly know me... And yes, you're right, I do have a fine face, albeit with three very fine inconspicuous tribal marks that I'm very proud of.
I understand your perspective, and I respect your right to your opinions, as everyone should.

must have been done by a step mother! Imagine the length....should not even be done AT ALL.

sava2:
This bill becomes law by today.

All state most have state I'd card.

The issue of tinubu and lagos. If lagos had an I'd card, tinubu would never governor.


I respect Mr Ben Bruce for going back to bayelsa to run for election.


I have no respect for Mr eyitayo jedege. Who does not want to go back to bayelsa state to run

Is Eyitayo Jegede from Bayelsa?