TonyeBarcanista:
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Clown, Tompolo only few months ago pledged support NIGER DELTA and Nigeria Project
http://www.herald.ng/tompolos-letter-buhari-support-jonathan-not-hate/

NDA only few weeks ago pledged support for Nigeria project.... EVEN in the height of their struggle, they keep saying "Niger Delta".

Asari is a businessman using Biafra to gain patronage. His grandfather supported Biafra and was dealt with by Kalabari people.... Even in Egypt, a minority (0.00001%) followed the Hebrews out of Egypt.

All militants leaders dissociated from Biafra. Sorry....

How will a GEJ and Rotimi Amaechi live together in NigerDelta Republic, to say the least?

Honestly, if i had the power, i will disintegrate Nigeria today, just to test ur theory.

It really will be a pleasure watching u guys.(ijaw, bini ,ishan, urhobo, isoko, itsekiri, ilaje(yoruba), apoi, etc)

ndoeyopbennet:


I never added Igbos in the South to my discourse, if you read it. The aim of my write-up is for pro-Biafrans to address the issues I have raised so that I can see reasons to either subscribe or not.

Let me for the sake of everything serene answer this questions the best I can. I normally would not bother.
In Biafra...
1) The issue of subjugation even in Nigeria will die a natural death if the regions or even states become autonomous. In Biafra we run administrative provinces. e.g Umuahia province,Ogoja province,Calabar province etc Each province is run solely and independently from other provinces and the central government. Each province has its laws and runs it's own economy. If Ogoja and Ikot Ekpene has their respective provinces where will the subjugation come from?

2) It Is wrong to ask "Will the Igbo allow their capital be sited outside Igboland?" It shows little understanding of the Biafra we're working towards achieving. Biafra will be a nation for ALL Biafrans. In Biafra there won't be this insensitivity we have in Nigeria now. Any area can be the capital. With the way IPoB go about their business I believe the capital won't even be in an Igbo area. It's only sensible and considerate to site the capital outside Igboland.

3) On the issue of annexation,forget any declaration made by Delta state government. That same declaration can even come from Abia state government even if there's massive Biafran support there. Do you honestly think they(the state government) would come out to say "We're proud Biafrans" that's quite stupid. IPoB is fighting for a Biafra with Niger Delta in it's map because Nnamdi Kanu shaped IPoB in that way from the word Go. Remember prior to his arrest he was quite popular in the SS. It's not a coincidence there were protests after his arrest even in Uyo and demands by ND militants for his release. The current IPoB leadership is simply following his orders.

4) Igbo can't be the official language. Common sense without bias can tell anyone that. It'll probably be English. Nobody will be fighting for position in Biafra like in Nigeria today because everybody in his/her province. Little chance of marginalization so no basis for such fears. Another point is that holding any position in Biafra will be based on strictly meritocracy and not "who you know" like Nigeria.

5) Concerning this,most ND are just very sheepish in not trusting the Igbo. That's just divide and rule tactics from the government.The Igbo have more reason to be wary of the Niger Deltans who stabbed them in the back once. It's very irritating when a Niger deltan is talking about distrust towards the Igbo. Taking post-independence/civil war events into consideration who should distrust who really? Forget that anyway.

6) If Nigeria was being ruled properly and things were in place do you think anyone would bother who was leading? In Biafra where we have a weak central government. No one will be too interested in ruling Biafra. Based on meritocracy Donald Duke stands a good chance due to his track record.

7) Current leaders in the east will not rule anybody. It's impossible. Most will even abscond. Biafra will be a new project...a breath of fresh air.

8.) Biafra can't be utopia but together we can. Each province handles it's resources with a quota to the central government. Any more confusion on this?

9) Settled

10) In the case of a UN supervised referendum the SS and SE will leave this cesspool of a nation. Believe it.

ceaz4r:
OP, You have raised valid areas of concern about the Biafra as it bothers you. Now, I'm going to attempt to answer your questions.

Concern1: Biafra may not be better for Niger Deltans because Niger Deltans may end up living one form of subjugation for another... Igbo, no doubt, will be the major ethnic group if Biafra is actualised.

Answer: Ndigbo is not interested in dominating anyone or group. We have this ideology of "Live and let Live". So, major ethnic or not, we will be more concerned in developing ourselves than politics. Have you wondered why we Igbo are poor players of politics in the Nigerian context. Ndigbo view politics from the fairness angle while others see politics as a game of compromise even if it means back stabbing.

Concern 2: Where will the capital be located?

Answer: Choosing the capital of Biafra should not be a big deal. A more central state can be adopted to be the Capital. Again, heads of provinces/states can vote on a round table where the Capital should be located.

Concern 3: The issue of annexation comes to play.

Answer: You posted a map in your article. One thing I want you to note is that some of these maps being circulated may not be the official map being worked with.
Asaba, Ugheli, Agbor, etc were in the old Mid-western state and as such were not part of Biafra which comprised mainly the Old Eastern Region. Anybody can post anything on the media, but if its not from or sanctioned by the Pro-Igbo office, like IPOB, MASSOB, etc, you may jettison it.

Concern 4: What languages will be made the official languages of the new nation?

Answer: Should this be a problem? In a multi lingual state, official language becomes English.

Concern 5: What and what have Igbo nation done for Niger Deltans to gain their trust?

Answer: Honestly if by now you still don't believe you can trust Ndigbo to do as they say/promise; if you still don't believe Igbos are trust worthy people, then you can't be convinced to trust them.

Concern 6: Who will lead the new nation?
7: Still on the issue of leaders, are the new leaders going to fall from the skies or they are simply going to change addresses from Abuja to Enugu?

Answer: when people ask this question I laugh at their ignorance. Do you mean a fair and credible election can not be conducted by adults? Electoral systems that are anti rigging like 'queuing behind your candidate's representative' and be counted will be adopted. Or are you trying to say that apart from these crop of criminals in government we have today, there are no credible people left in your community that can hold elective or appointive positions?


In the proposed Biafra, every province or state or whatever you call it will be responsible for his speed and level of development. It will be a federating nation with a weak center.

I don't have to answer all your raised concerns. I believe with what I have said so far, you already have idea the direction Biafra is taking.


Cheers!!

Very sensible guy here. I like people that say things as they are.

mathy001:

Why are your brothers adding Urhobo-Isokoland in Biafran map?

Awo ha ndi ukwe...okpo ha ndi azu... goodnight!!!

If Niger delta won't be part of Biafra no problem, as far as they understand that Hausa fulani or Yoruba's don't like them but only after their oil.
But I hope op has not forgotten that Igbo's are part of nigerdelter.
Nigerdeltas of ijaw and co are more Biafra than Igbo's but if our brothers don't want to be with us no problem, all our prays will be for them to progress as Igbo's pray for their loved ones whom the settled from apprentice to become a real man.
But some tribes in Nigeria don't want to be real man they still want to be hiding under some body or group of people instead of taken their responsibility as a man.
We the easterner are ready for Biafra, if our brothers say they don't want we will happily & wish them well in their new nation but not to allow them to be killed by the jihadist and blood sucking demons in the name of Nigeria.
Nigeria has expired and lugard experiment has failed.
On Biafra we stand no going back.
If buhari and co don't like it he should go and hug 330 kva live line.
#All hail Biafra.

Whynotthetruth:


I wonder how you got this statistics...Anyway, take time to read the Biafra charter, and their other documents...Most if not all of your fears above have already been addressed...so why go over if again here? pick the document it is on Google...

The statistics is true. I dont know about Delta Igbos and Ijaws but Itsekiris and Urhobo-Isokos do not subscribe to Biafra and may never do.

Allsouls:
If Niger delta won't be part of Biafra no problem, as far as they understand that Hausa fulani or Yoruba's don't like them but only after their oil.
But I hope op has not forgotten that Igbo's are part of nigerdelter.
Nigerdeltas of ijaw and co are more Biafra than Igbo's but if our brothers don't want to be with us no problem, all our prays will be for them to progress as Igbo's pray for their loved ones whom the settled from apprentice to become a real man.
But some tribes in Nigeria don't want to be real man they still want to be hiding under some body or group of people instead of taken their responsibility as a man.
We the easterner are ready for Biafra, if our brothers say they don't want we will happily & wish them well in their new nation but not to allow them to be killed by the jihadist and blood sucking demons in the name of Nigeria.
Nigeria has expired and lugard experiment has failed.
On Biafra we stand no going back.
If buhari and co don't like it he should go and hug 330 kva live line.
#All hail Biafra.

Yes yes yawwwww! I like your writeup.

mathy001:


Why are your brothers adding Urhobo-Isokoland in Biafran map?

They must be using the old map. There's so many different maps of Biafra that it's difficult to determine the legitimacy of any of them. There are many Igbos like me who believe that we should have an Igbo-only country, without any minorities. I would even say that their number is greater than those who would have the Urhobos/Isokos in their newly formed country.

Ngozi123:


They must be using the old map. There's so many different maps of Biafra that it's difficult to determine the legitimacy of any of them. There are many Igbos like me who believe that we should have an Igbo-only country, without any minorities. I would even say that their number is greater than those who would have the Urhobos/Isokos in their newly formed country.

I even agree with you. Ethnicity is our problem in Nigeria. It is better if Igbos rule themselves, Urhobo rule themselves, Efiks rule themselves, etc. It is really better for everyone like that. However, Igboid groups should be given the opportunity to join Biafra.

mathy001:


The statistics is true. I dont know about Delta Igbos and Ijaws but Itsekiris and Urhobo-Isokos do not subscribe to Biafra and may never do.

I don't do hearsay bro...when we get to that bridge Stop plucking data from air, it doesn't work that way... thanks

Whynotthetruth:


I don't do hearsay bro...when we get to that bridge Stop plucking data from air, it doesn't work that way... thanks

e go ova una when the bridge set na. We de watch. See them. U think say Urhobo man go follow una? I pray o.

mathy001:


e go ova una when the bridge set na. We de watch. See them. U think say Urhobo man go follow una? I pray o.

ok...ka chi foo

tonyebarcanista is a fantasist. He has been getting hard on that igbos will leave behind their kinsmen and territory. hahahahahahaha!

we know all our people, even if we want to call them osu and all sought of names, we know everyone of them, wen the time comes.

Once Nigeria disintegrate, if ijaw dont fall in line and form a country that is viable with a written constitution, with resource control,power sharing, then ijaws will have demselves to blame over wat happens next.


do not try to be too smart man(over smart dey kill person), get with the programme, share ur concern and negotiate a solution before joining any country.

mathy001:


I even agree with you. Ethnicity is our problem in Nigeria. It is better if Igbos rule themselves, Urhobo rule themselves, Efiks rule themselves, etc. It is really better for everyone like that. However, Igboid groups should be given the opportunity to join Biafra.

I agree. We won't force anyone. When have you ever heard of Igbo people 'forcing' their culture on other groups? If anything, I believe that we're too accepting of other cultures; some Igbos are happy to embrace a foreign culture at the expense of their own. We've never really been a domineering group, despite the stereotypes about us- we just want to live our lives without fear of persecution.

mathy001:


I'm happy you removed Urhobo people from this madness. Tell your brothers to maintain that stand.

You are not wanted. You are the madness we seek to do away with. Stop seeking for cheap attention and deal with it.

mathy001:


I even agree with you. Ethnicity is our problem in Nigeria. It is better if Igbos rule themselves, Urhobo rule themselves, Efiks rule themselves, etc. It is really better for everyone like that. However, Igboid groups should be given the opportunity to join Biafra.

The problem of Nigeria is not ethnicity but greed.

I, an igbo man happily campaigned for Atiku(hausafulani), since last week. I similarly campaigned for GEJ an Ijaw man.


I dont have a problem with being a Nigeria but i have a problem with a grandmother being beaten to death in kano and then beheaded in front of her own shop/husband, over religious differences and then the government instruct the court to release the culprits.


I have a problem, wen communities live in abject poverty whilst a few men with political influence from the north claim ownership of communities oil wealth.

i have a problem with miscarriage of justice, unaccountability, marginalisation and discrimination. I have a problem wen people get together for the soul purpose of hunting my people down like bushmeat becos of the language they speak.


These are the reasons behind calls for Biafra and not ethnicity. We cannot continue to live like this.

waternogetenemy:



The problem of Nigeria is not ethnicity but greed.

I, an igbo man happily campaigned for Atiku, since last week. I similarly campaigned for GEJ an Ijaw man.


I dont have a problem with being a Nigeria but i have a problem with a grandmother being beaten to death in kano and then beheaded in front of her own shop, over religious differences.


I have a problem, wen communities live in abject poverty whilst a few men with political influence from the north claim ownership of communities oil wealth.

i have a problem with miscarriage of justice, marginalisation and discrimination. I have a problem wen people get together for the soul purpose of hunting my people down like bushmeat becos of the language they speak.


These are the reasons behind calls for Biafra and not ethnicity.

yeah nice one but you would still come for bizness in nigeria n all d tins
you running away from can still happen so what the point,for me having biafra means you dont want anytin to do with d hausas or yorubas so i dont see y you still need to do business or have properties in nigeria

mathy001:


Yes yes yawwwww! I like your writeup.

Yes We don't force people and cant force people, group or clan even when Portuguese came they met us in clans and we live peacefully until the demon called British came and turn every thing upsidedown.

It pains that some people will clam to have gold, oil, farmland, cattle, develop city, educated etc but can take the bull by the horn and be responsible for their children's future but chose to hide under useless name & contraption called Nigeria to the detriment of other and their poor population.

Its just like during examination you claim to be brilliant to know maths, physics, biology etc and still can't write without your neighbour ie peeping from your neighbours sheet.
if your brilliant you should be able to wright your exam even in a hall where only you they.

We have determine to be alone and nothing on earth can change that, not the likes of buhari, British or Obama can stop us unless God.

Biafra must be, haters should go and die in oshomole word.

playboy99:
yeah nice one but you would still come for bizness in nigeria n all d tins
you running away from can still happen so what the point,for me having biafra means you dont want anytin to do with d hausas or yorubas so i dont see y you still need to do business or have properties in nigeria

Nooooo, Not at all, Nigeria do business in Ghana and UK, USA, Dubai etc.

We will just have separate country and system.

Hausa can now beat themselves to death and behead each other as they deem fit.

Yoruba can get together and share the national budget in parliament, whilst landing each other with resounding slaps and blows.

We igbos want to go and build industry and machines, feed and manage people.

Whynotthetruth:


1)Why are we loving the Igbo more than they love themselves? Can you cry more than bereaved? What's your headache if they leave and how they survive or die? smh

2) Let's stop celebrating ignorance. If Igbo leave today, they will simply become another new member(16th or so) of ECOWAS countries. ECOWAS treaty allow for FREE ENTRY and EXIT for all member countries including in trade and investment.

3) Property is legal acquisition which can't be taken away at the whims and caprices of hooligans. There are laws which will be made and respected. On disintegration, mode of separation and handover in new nations are discussed and implemented....it may take months or upto a year to conclude such . There are existing legal system guiding such process and issue.

4) Migration can't be stopped because of birth of new countries. Borders are open for all including for any migrant Igbo...by virtue of existing laws which are binding on all.

meaning u still want to do bizness and have properties among dose you hate or hate u,n kill u for no reason pls what d logic it means u would still get the same treatment even wen u a nigerian citizen,or deres a way out?

waternogetenemy:


Nooooo, Not at all, Nigeria do business in Ghana and UK, USA, Dubai etc.

We will just have separate country and system.

Hausa can now beat themselves to death and behead each other as they deem fit.

Yoruba can get together and share the national budget in parliament, whilst landing each other with resounding slaps and blows.

We igbos want to go and build industry and machines, feed and manage people.

this is a diff ball game you brokeout of a country due to the way u are being treated den still wanna have properties and do business dere like noting happened is it posible?n one of your reasons is that they kill your people ,wat would now touch d heart of d hausas to stop is it coz u hav ur own country now or what exactly?

Then if you killed a citizen from another country unlawfully do u think the country will not ask you to provide the killers?if you don't then you have breached the rules under UN human rights law and your country will face sanctions or war

But under one Nigeria it will be swept under the carpet

waternogetenemy:


How will a GEJ and Rotimi Amaechi live together in NigerDelta Republic, to say the least?

Honestly, if i had the power, i will disintegrate Nigeria today, just to test ur theory.

It really will be a pleasure watching u guys.(ijaw, bini ,ishan, urhobo, isoko, itsekiri, ilaje(yoruba), apoi, etc)

When mother and father fight and in the night they want to Bleep or have sex will they call you?
Brothers can misunderstood them self but not every day, weeks, months or year they will fight and kill people like northerners since 1958 till date.
Our youths are tired if no body want to talk i will talk.
HAUSA FULANI & YORUBAS be on your one Nigeria and leave Biafrans alone.

Biafra is our culture our religion and our way of life.
#All hail Biafra #freeNnamdikanu #FreeBiafra.

Lol, after u guys have finished with ur delusions on nairaland, then please come back to real life, because nairaland is not reality, everything u say here does not count in real life. Keep deceiving urselfs

ndoeyopbennet:

Nawaooo.... Mbok what is afonja in this serious debate now?
address issues instead of attacking people bro.

afonja wetin concern u wit biafra matter

Victorvexz:
Lol, after u guys have finished with ur delusions on nairaland, then please come back to real life, because nairaland is not reality, everything u say here does not count in real life. Keep deceiving urselfs

Why is biafran issue giving U automatic erection?

ndoeyopbennet:





1. Biafra may not be better for Niger Deltans because Niger Deltans may end up living one form of subjugation for another. The argument Igbos have made for their freedom is the desire to be free from Hausa-Yoruba domination. That argument also applies to the average Niger Deltan. Igbo, no doubt, will be the major ethnic group if Biafra is actualised. Ijaws may have a stake due to their numbers. What about the Ogonis, Urhobo-Isokos, Itsekiris, Efiks, etc? Where will they fit in at the national level? The sad reality is that another Nigeria will just be made manifest and resentments will build up. What will really be the fate of minorities? Will they fare better in Biafra or alone? In Nigeria, big groups such as Hausa, Yoruba and Igbo checkmate each other's excesses very well. Who will checkmate that of Igbos in the new nation?

So in other words, it makes more sense to think " Igbos might dominate me in Biafra so it is better for me to stay in Nigeria and let Igbo, Yoruba and Hausa/Fulani dominate me". Laughable. Igbos have no historical record of invading anyones land to subjugate them. If a person or people are more concerned about Igbo domination them than they are about Igbo, Yoruba, Hausa/Fulani domination, they are stupid.

2. Where will the capital be located? If we are to follow the notion of central location, the capital of Biafra won't be Enugu but around Umuahia-Ikot Ekpene axis. Will Igbos allow their capital to be sited in a non-Igbo location? This is a very salient issue because you don't expect the riverine Niger Deltan in Twon-Brass, for instance, to journey all the way to Enugu to see their President. It has to be a location where ALL BIAFRANS can access easily. Enugu won't go.

As an Igbo man and Biafra supporter, I have always been of the view that the capital of Biafra should be outside Igbo land. I should however point out that the capital of Biafra might not be as important as some might think because Biafra will be run as a true federation, maybe even a confederation. So the capital might not be as important as people think. Washington is Americas capital but is no where as important as major cities such as New York, Los Angeles or even Houston. It is just the seat of Government

3. The issue of annexation comes to play. For so long, e-Biafrans have annexed Niger Delta as part of the proposed nation. The map below shows us what Biafrans have drawn to constitute the new nation:
[img]http://4.bp..com/-REk3IMlg9oQ/VlQcxNkh6II/AAAAAAAAMfQ/e0gelrqN7vU/s1600/biafra.jpg[/img]

If we judge from this map, it means all groups in the Niger Delta have been annexed. My question is whether the leaders of these groups have been consulted before the annexation was done. I, for one, know that Urhobo-Isoko and Efik-Ibibio leaders have not approved of Biafra neither have anybody in these regions declared Biafra. So how and why were they included in the proposed map? Little things like this bring distrust and I understand that many of these non-Igbo regions have disowned the map and pledged allegiance to Nigeria. The declaration by the Delta State government is a case in point. I see this as forceful annexation. The so-called e-Biafrans have also not done much in calming the nerves of the people of the annexed regions. I've seen comments such as "if you don't like it, go and stay in Sokoto", "all land in the South is Biafraland", etc. Is it not ironic that a group of people who want freedom want to annexe others?

The map above is just a proposal. Anyone is allowed to make a proposal. Eventually, a referendum will allow all the ethinic nationalities on the map to vote to remain in Nigeria or go with Biafra. Biafra has never been a "by force" thing like Nigeria.

4. What languages will be made the official languages of the new nation? I have seen several posts by e-Biafrans where Igbo was proposed as the official language of the new republic. What then will happen to other languages such as Urhobo, Isoko, Okpe, Efik, Ibibio, Oron, Ogoni, Eleme, Okrika, Kalabari, Bini, Esan, etc? Will they die off because of Igbo? Certainly NOT! If English is made the official language, the Igbo majority factor will kick in. If your name isn't Chukwuemeka or Oliseh, Amarachi or Nneka, etc, you won't get any appointment nor shall you be recognised. These are things we can't deny. We are very ethnocentric in Africa.

English is an international language, it can no longer be replaced as the official language due to our colonial heritage. Igbo cannot be used as an official language because it is a very difficult language to learn, it is even harder to read. Anyone who speaks Igbo like me knows how had it is to read and write. But give the same person English and they will gallop away. Even if Biafra was just Igbo territory, Igbo could never be the official language.

5. What and what have Igbo nation done for Niger Deltans to gain their trust? Every day I see Igbo youths making enemies where there were none. They constantly use the agency of the internet to sprout controversy, hurl insults at dissenters and make unfounded claims. There is this general air of mistrust for Igbos by some Niger Deltans, particularly by Urhobo-Isoko and Bini people. What have Igbos done to checkmate this? Has any Igbo leader or group extended the hand of friendship to the Niger Deltans. Mistrust cannot be wished away. Most Niger Deltans would rather follow Hausas as slaves than follow Igbos as kings. This is the real reality and truthfully, Igbos caused this.

It should be noted that 'Niger-Delta' is just a geographical political zone, it is not a people. While Igbo is a tribe, Niger Delta is not, neither is South-South. Another thing to note is that the area known as Edo state is not part of the Biafran proposal except the Igbo speaking 12 villages that make up the Igbanke community. It is very important also to note that most Biafran supporters would rather if Biafra to came by way of referendum or plebicite. If any ethnic group feels they are better off in Nigeria, they should feel free to vote along those lines and their wishes will be respected. There is no Igbo man who is going to fight a battle to include any ethnic group in Biafra against their will. It goes against the principle of self determination that Biafra is built on. But there is no harm in inviting people to join. Biafra is not "by force" like Nigeria.

6. Who will lead the new nation? Obviously, Nnamdi Kanu, their hero, has fought tooth and nails for Biafra and he is currently cooling off in jail. If Biafra comes today, who will be the interim leader and what modalities are in place for subsequent leaders to be elected? Igbos have been the only ones fighting for Biafra since time immemorial with a handful of other groups here and there. Will Igbos allow other groups to rule over them? Will they allow an Urhobo man to be President, for instance? This is not a case of mere wishing. We have to understand that Niger Delta groups MAY NEVER BE ALLOWED TO RULE BIAFRA IF IT IS ACTUALISED.

Nnamdi Kanu is not a politician, he is a freedom fighter. The man has no interest in leading Biafra, he only cares about its actualisation. There are many people who are qualified to lead Biafra, it even doesnt even have to be a well known person. It only needs to be a person of unquestionable character who has vision and will rule with fairness. As for the question of if Igbos will allow the minorities rule over them, thats laughable. Ojukwu handed over to a non Igbo before he left Biafra. Igbos were the largest supporters of GEJ.

7. Still on the issue of leaders, are the new leaders going to fall from the skies or they are simply going to change addresses from Abuja to Enugu. If so, what will change in the new nation? It is not arguable that Igbo national leaders are the most corrupt persons in Nigeria. If these same people are the ones to rule the new nation then there is no hope because corruption will be so rife that the economy of the new nation will shut down like a knocked engine. If we argue that new and younger leaders will arise, we still have the issue of who fought for Biafra to contend with. Most pro-Biafrans will not allow someone who sat at the periphery of the struggle to just come and waltz power away from the "heroes" of Biafra. If this is true then we will not have a proper democracy in Biafra.

I think it all depends on how Biafra comes, by war, by referendum, by political concensus. However it comes, I think that the freedom from British colonial creation called Nigeria is a step in the right direction because Nigeria has not worked as nation. It is time to give something else a try. Who knows? It might work.

8. Will Biafra be a utopia? The impression that e-Biafrans give is that Biafra will be perfect and we all know for a fact that this is not true. Apart from the issue of corruption and sentimentalism that have been addressed, we still have the issue of development. Where will money be generated from to develop the nation? In the whole of the proposed Biafra, only Port Harcourt and Onitsha are economically viable cities. Where will the investors come from? Why should they invest in a volatile country? Only in Warri, we have Ijaw, Itsekiri and Urhobo at loggerheads, imagine what would happen to the whole nation. Secondly, I am sure that no Niger Deltan will allow his "oil" to be used to develop Enugu like what happened with Abuja, and is still happening today. Niger Deltans are getting wiser and by the time the new nation is formed, matters that border on oil, wealth distribution and infrastructural development will be raised.

Onitsha and PH? Thats even good. Switzerland with a population of just 8 million people is just as big as Abia and Enugu combined is far richer than Nigeria based on Banking and Financial services alone. Austria is about the same but is richer than Nigeria but is strong on Agriculture, manufacturing and Engineering. Both countries have no Oil and are landlocked. Anyone thinking Oil is living in the past. Oil is one of the major reasons Nigeria is a mess and Biafra cannot be about Oil or it will fail just like Nigeria. Besides, there will be full resource control in Biafra so no one will feel cheated.

9. The current structure of the proposed nation, as shown in the map earlier embedded, favour Igbos with more states. Urhobo has one, Efik-Ibibio has two, Itsekiri has none, etc. How will this be addressed? Certainly, every ethnic nationality will want adequate representation and so the structure on that map will never work.

What you are seeing in the map isnt states. There can be no states in Biafra, that is unitary system which is bad for us. Those are provinces and if each of those provinces have full resource control, nobody can cheat anyone

[10. Last, but not the least, is the issue of referendum. Some Biafrans are already calling for a referendum which will involve all parts of the proposed nation. I am pretty sure how this referendum will turn out. However, for the sake of being hypothetical, let us imagine that some ethnic groups/states vote against Biafra by the majority, what will be their fate at the end of the day? Secondly, will the result of such a referendum be true and honest? I understand that electoral malpractice forms a part of our identity. How are we going to get a true reflection of people's thoughts? Thirdly, if states and ethnic groups do decide to vote for Biafra, what mechanisms are in place to contain Igbophobia, Igbomania, Igbocentrism, Igbo hegemony, Landgrabbing, and all issues that minorities have raised?


Above are the reasons why I feel that Niger Deltans will NOT subscribe to the Biafran movement. I have been very practical, philosophical and hypothetical in my approach. I do not speak for any group or persons but I present these issues for the pro-Biafrans to address. Niger Deltans can raise more issues that I have not raised. Finally, it should be noted that I expect insults directed at my person by e-warriors and keyboard mercenaries, as usual, but I won't pleasure such persons with answers or altercations. If you raise good points, we can discuss like intellectuals. I hold no grudge towards anyone or any group.




- Inibehe Bennet (Akwa Ibom State Indigene).

A referendum on Biafra is about those who choose to continue with the the political unity of Nigeria and those who choose to go withbsomething new. Referendums are a bit different from elections, in elections we choose people but in referendums, we choose issues. The modalities of referedums differ but I believe it should be done in terms of Local Govts. Any Local Govt that chooses to remain or go should vote accordingly. It could also be that the referendum could be just about what the majority vote for. It is very important that the modality of the referendum be agreen on first before it happens so that no one is forced into something they dont want but thst can be easily resolved by dialogue

Olu20090:


Afonjas claiming Akwa Ibom. This people need help...go and focus on your Oduo Republic and stop worrying about our own struggle. I have never seen a people like this before in my life.

A display of your crass naivety. Are you Indigenous People of Delusioners so daft that you must assume wboever airs an opinion contrary to your Biafra aspirations MUST be Yoruba ? So you are gullible enough to expect the entire peoples of six states of the south-south to be timidly quiet after you arrogantly annexed their region with your suicide mission ?
For how long will you run away from the truth and reality ? You are so intolerant and averse to intellectual debate. You certainly have a huge problem.

PenSniper:
A display of your crass naivety. Are you Indigenous People of Delusioners so daft that you must assume wboever airs an opinion contrary to your Biafra aspirations MUST be Yoruba ? So you are gullible enough to expect the entire peoples of six states of the south-south to be timidly quiet after you arrogantly annexed their region with your suicide mission ?
For how long will you run away from the truth and reality ? You are so intolerant and averse to intellectual debate. You certainly have a huge problem.

Chukwu biko! See finishing. Ol' boy, you for pity am small, nah. E don tay wey I don laugh like dis! Hehehe....

ndoeyopbennet:
Obviously, the map your people have released have made it my matter. Akwa Ibom is included in the map, Ibibioland is included there. I am a full blooded Ibibio man from Ukanafun so by that logic, I am included in the map. Please address my issues if you can.

Bros, abeg tell them to erase Warri & Ughelli from that Biafra map. Somebody made a monumental cartographic mistake by including them in that map. May God bless you as you comply.

mathy001:
The statistics is true. I dont know about Delta Igbos and Ijaws but Itsekiris and Urhobo-Isokos do not subscribe to Biafra and may never do.

I no even know say you sef see am! Itsekiri, Urhobo & Isoko inside Biafra?? Please let me laugh in Chinese!

mathy001:


See this one. God created Biafra abi na? Mtchewwwwwwww!


You guys can add and divide the whole region. Just leave Urhobo-Isoko outta it.

Why attaching isoko to your madness...
Leave isoko out of your madness.

What's urhobo by the way?
I don't even like minorities being in Biafra...

You all sucks.

pazienza:

1. Biafra proposes a form of government where each province will have total control of her resources and only contribute to the centre.
In Biafra, smaller groups like Oron, Eket, Andoni can unite and have their own province with full resource control and pay tax to the central government.
There won't be any land use decree.
IPOB had stressed on this times without number. Even Ojukwu Biafra was divided into provinces,with non Igbo speaking tribes having their own distinct provinces with indigenous administrators.
You need nobody to checkmate Igbos under such arrangement.
And moreover, naturally, Igbos exist in clans that do checkmate each other, there have never in history been a period when Igbo groups United to conquer a non Igbo speaking people.

2. Why should the capital location be an issue, since it's not going to be a case where people were milked dry so that FG and go build up Lagos and Abuja?
It will be all province for themselves.
We can apply the three capital system of RSA. The legislative in one Province, the judiciary will be hosted by another province and the Executive by another, all these can be negotiated.

3. This is totally irrelevant. Truth remains that Ndiigbo had never annexed non Igbo lands in the past. Arochukwu was only one that was annexed, but when you factor in the fact that Arochukwu was won by a union of Aro, Ibibio and Akpa( Ekoid) people, then it could hardly be termed annexation.
Ndiigbo are not empire builders. Annexation and expansionism is not our trait. We are republicans by nature.
No Nigerian state government was ever going to approve being part of Biafra, even. Enugu state government denied Biafra. So citing Delta state government response is quite irrelevant to the issue of Biafra. Nobody expected any different response. But IPOB and their Biafran ideology is well received by the commoners in Enu ani, which is why Asaba is an IPOB stronghold.

4. This again is a trivial matter. Each province will have their own language and English as their official language.
English will remain the lingua franca.
But this is quite funny. You are scared of an Igbo national language, but comfortable with an English non African lingual franca.

The scenario you painted of someone being denied position because of ethnicity will not happen with the structure Biafra intends to run on. The provinces will be stronger and more lucrative than the centre. It won't be the case of Nigeria.
Moreover, I personally don't subscribe to a Biafra with Ijaw, Edo and Edoids( Urhobo, Itsekiri, Isoko), when I think of Biafra, I think of Igbo, Igboids and AkwaCross, cos these are people we share similar ideologies with.

Infact, I'm only replying you because you stated that you are from AkwaCross area .
So my use of Biafra during the course of my reply represents strictly Igbo, Igboid and AkwaCross and maybe Ogoni.

5. Igbos are often the subject of caustic attacks by those groups you mentioned, which I personally don't consider part of Biafra.
Go to Ijaw facebook pages, Radio Niger Delta, and even here in NL and see the amount of hatred towards Ndiigbo emanating from those quarters.
How many times have you seen Igbos hurl insults at AkwaCross people? Rarely. Why? Because you hardly get Igbophobia in AkwaCross area. AkwaCross people are all over Aba, they understand the Igboman and the Igbo man understand them, they don't show us hate, and in return we don't show them hate.

This generation Of Ndiigbo know better. We will not allow Igbophobic elements whether from
Ijaw, Edo, Edoids or Yoruba go unpunished. We will reply them with so much hate that even lucifer will marvel. Actions must be met with reactions.
So, if you think we are hurling insults at those children of hate, then you are John snow, cos what you are seeing is only just the beginning.
Peeps must be forced to learn that Igbophobia will not be tolerated by Ndiigbo, simple.
I have no intent of sharing Biafra with those people, it's only natural that they stick to their Arewa masters, you know what they say of birds of same feather.

6. Again Nnamdi had made it clear he has no political ambitions in Biafra. Even if he does, the kind of structure Biafra intends to run on will make the centre only ceremonial, it won't be same all powerful Nigerian president.
Ndiigbo had no problem with Obong of Calabar rulling the Eastern region house of Chiefs ahead of Eze Nri , Eze aro, Obi of Onitsha, Igwe Nnewi, etc. We had no problem with Eyo ita ruling the Eastern region , Adaka was voted by Ndiigbo in UNN as the SUG president, we voted a Fulani as the first Mayor of Enugu, we all voted an Ogbia man, GEJ and stood by him when all abandoned him even Ijaw men like Clark abandoned him since.

We are more than capable of voting non Igbos.
By the way, remove Urhobo here, I don't consider them part of Biafra.

7. How exactly are Igbo leaders the most corrupt in the country? What did you smoke?

Are thieves like Ibori, Amaechi, Silva, Abacha, Obj, IBB Igbos? Please don't provoke me with this Igbophobic statement, cause you won't like the outcome.

Biafra will be structured in such a way that government will be too close to the people. No more Abuja jamboree, that alone will curb the excesses of the politicians. They will be under closer scrutiny by their people,and since each province is going to be ran by what they produce, it will force leaders to think outside the box.
The abrogation of the dubious Obj created land use decree will hand the lands back to the natives and the government must serve the owners of the land and not the other way round. All these will change the political orientation and task leaders to be more productive and transparent to earn the people support and trust.

8. Again stop dragging Edoids and Ijaws into this. You gave the impression that you are from AkwaCross area, but so far, you keep raising issues about the Edoids.
Not once have you made mention of the Oron struggle for independence , Obolo and Ibeno struggle for total control of Akwa Ibom coastline wealth, the Ekoid land disputes with Ikwo and Ezza clans of Igbo, the land disputes between Ndokis and Ibibios, these are real issues surrounding the AkwaCross Igbo relationship, instead you are focused on issues occurring in distant non related lands.
Don't give me the impression that you are an impostor claiming AkwaCross.

As for your question on utopia. Biafra will have the richest of human resources in Africa, it will have access to enormous natural gas deposits in Imo and Anambra, Coal in Enugu, crude oil reserves in Imo, Anambra, Ndoki, Etche, Asa. As well as those in AkwaCross area if you guys decide to join the party.
It will also have an enormous patriotic diaspora population spread all over the world ready to come and invest home as well as attract foreign investors, as the Biafran government will create the enabling environment for business to thrive.
The possibilities are endless.
Keeping the country peaceful is equally part of why I don't fancy having the Edoids and Ijaws in the Biafra, as doing that will unbalance things and create chaos.

9. That is just a proposal. I don't consider Itsekiri and Urhobo parts of Biafra, any body that put then on the Biafran map is merely fishing for their reactions.

We don't share same life ideology with those people. I see no basis for unity with them. We can't be running away from a mad house( Nigeria), only to end up creating another mad house in Biafra by inviting bitter people with whom we share little with to form a nation.

When you know you are going to be running your province with whatever you produce, and that there won't be monthly allocation coming from Abuja, you wouldn't be bothered about those creating 1 million provinces for themselves, since they would have to run them with their own resources and not yours.

That's the great thing about the Biafran proposed structure. It eliminates the things that turned Nigeria into a failure.

10. Biafra is not going to be a parasitic state, so there won't be any need forcing any unwilling group into it.
If an ethnic group within the proposed Biafran area votes against Biafra , then they are free to go their way. It's as free as that.

As for electoral manipulation, you can't rig where you are not popular, it will cause chaos. IPOB is too resolute and more than capable of securing the votes and ensuring no such manipulation occur.
The Biafran structure will take care of Igbophobia, by first ensuring that overwhelmingly Igbophobic elements as found in Ijaw, Edo, Edoids don't become part of Biafra.

The total resource control to the provinces and decentralization of the government, that will create will a very weak centre and strong regions will eliminate the. thoughts of phantom Igbo hegemony that exist only in people's mind.

NB: I personally subscribe to an Igbo speaking only Biafra first and foremost, but not aversed to a Union of Igbo speaking people, Akwa Cross( with Andoni of course) and maybe Ogoni too.

You can't be more apt. Thanks for this nice immediate reply, you changed the course of this thread with your intelligentsia making the thread an enlightenment for Biafra discuss.

I owe you a bottle of Andre