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Re: What Is The Spiritual Implication Of Blood Transfusion? (if There's Any) by manando1(m): 1:27pm On Nov 27, 2016 |
goldfish80:Sir this is true your friend has added more 7 lives in him first of all you must know that blood is the carrier of life if one eat blood or transfer blood he's eating the soul that leave within the blood if one is transferring the blood he transfers it together with the soul that live within it . . . . . .. . . . . Deuteronomy 12:23 23 Only be sure that thou eat not the blood: for the blood is the life; and thou shalt not eat the life with the flesh. . . . . Asking for forgiveness from the Lord will help your friend let him say "LORD I M SORRY " Please Note I m only trying to help not judging May your friend get well soon !!! |
Re: What Is The Spiritual Implication Of Blood Transfusion? (if There's Any) by goldfish80(m): 1:43pm On Nov 27, 2016 |
Originalsly:Top post... Thanks for this |
Re: What Is The Spiritual Implication Of Blood Transfusion? (if There's Any) by swing4real(m): 1:47pm On Nov 27, 2016 |
SMH. Ask your friend to return back the blood and die since he has issues with it. 2 Likes |
Re: What Is The Spiritual Implication Of Blood Transfusion? (if There's Any) by dboss444: 1:58pm On Nov 27, 2016 |
goldfish80: but I heard that anyone who can get usain bolt blood sample will be rewarded handsomely. it could b ur friend in the hospital could b right |
Re: What Is The Spiritual Implication Of Blood Transfusion? (if There's Any) by Chuukwudi(m): 2:00pm On Nov 27, 2016 |
benodic: Please Sir. Who are you? I love what you've written even though I comprehend so little. Are you a cross bearer? |
Re: What Is The Spiritual Implication Of Blood Transfusion? (if There's Any) by samtopwisdom(m): 2:24pm On Nov 27, 2016 |
In my own opinion i think ur friend need to discuss his experience with a deliverance pastor cos he need deliverance |
Re: What Is The Spiritual Implication Of Blood Transfusion? (if There's Any) by Nobody: 2:33pm On Nov 27, 2016 |
goldfish80: what does it have to do what what you asked? do you not see your problem? While you and your ancestors were in the village seeing the appearance and disappearance of the moon as a spiritual occurrence, the white man engaged his brain and demystified the moon, in the process he developed technologies like satelites which gave birth to mobile technology, GPS, etc. Scientists took a look at this blood and researched it and in the process discovered he could save lives and fix illnesses by blood transfusions. But you are wondering if a spirit can enter you and you ask me what this has to do with IQ? In this day and age you have the audacity (or stupidity) to come on a public forum and ask with all seriousness if blood transfusion has any spiritual implications and you ask again with seriousness what this has to do with IQ? Are you for real? are you not highlighting my point? Bro, God forbid you have an accident or illness that needs blood transfusion, lie down there and be asking the Doctor about spiritual implication. Better you go to Babalawo or cPastor for help because I don't think you are ready for progress!!! I was about to finish by asking again "do you not see your problem" but that would be a waste of time because clearly you don't. Save the rest of us the ordeal of thinking we are dealing with emlightened people and stop disguising as an educated enlightened person and go back to the village as clearly education has had no impact on your thinking. 1 Like |
Re: What Is The Spiritual Implication Of Blood Transfusion? (if There's Any) by Snow5(m): 2:37pm On Nov 27, 2016 |
I did a blood transfusion 5yrs ago or so... My family know me not anymore through my characters.. @op...call*********** That's my number.. To get any information you want. I can't talk here on nairaland.. Cos many will doubt it. Things science can't explain are numerous!! |
Re: What Is The Spiritual Implication Of Blood Transfusion? (if There's Any) by kevoh(m): 2:39pm On Nov 27, 2016 |
victorazy:The above is self contradictory! You tell me not to rule all out (which I have never done going by my comments here)and then you go ahead to do the same thing you are advising with this ''copping out'' statement of yours that it is beyond human comprehension. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: What Is The Spiritual Implication Of Blood Transfusion? (if There's Any) by summerflame(m): 2:42pm On Nov 27, 2016 |
He has been transfused with some cursed blood ... I no fit laugh.. |
Re: What Is The Spiritual Implication Of Blood Transfusion? (if There's Any) by victorazy(m): 2:57pm On Nov 27, 2016 |
kevoh:You didn't get my message then. |
Re: What Is The Spiritual Implication Of Blood Transfusion? (if There's Any) by goldfish80(m): 2:59pm On Nov 27, 2016 |
vodutive: You obviously have a comprehension problem. I created a thread recounting someone's experience and seeked the scientific or spiritual explaination to what he experienced. On the scientific part, traces of DNA could be found in a person's blood, the question is could these components engineer a transfer of a person's habits or character from donor to recipient? From the spiritual angle, what does the Koran or Bible say about this topic? I wonder what these questions have to do with superstition and development of Africa like you've been typing. Seriously, you have a comprehension problem. 4 Likes |
Re: What Is The Spiritual Implication Of Blood Transfusion? (if There's Any) by KaptainAfrika: 3:00pm On Nov 27, 2016 |
NO. |
Re: What Is The Spiritual Implication Of Blood Transfusion? (if There's Any) by goldfish80(m): 3:04pm On Nov 27, 2016 |
Snow5:Please, this thread is for you. Share your thoughts with us. 2 Likes |
Re: What Is The Spiritual Implication Of Blood Transfusion? (if There's Any) by dboss444: 3:27pm On Nov 27, 2016 |
nice1 the new swag is attack religion nd people would see you as an intellectual but are you? let me digress a little U know Nigerians r now becoming interesting everybody now attacking religion. I doubt people here know things about scientific research op this is a brilliant topic. who can explain what the human mind is with scientific proof in fact what is mind?. what are my saying? there are things which science can't explain but they exist. science can't even comprehend the human brain. pls who watch this program through the worm hole hosted by Morgan Freeman |
Re: What Is The Spiritual Implication Of Blood Transfusion? (if There's Any) by EyeHateGod: 3:34pm On Nov 27, 2016 |
I know only about bone marrow.. |
Re: What Is The Spiritual Implication Of Blood Transfusion? (if There's Any) by babooshka: 3:36pm On Nov 27, 2016 |
vodutive:good point. Was even going 2 ask d op if his friend had any kind of head trauma, as part of events leading 2 his admission, as this could lead 2 personality changes. Besides, it's also been documented dat ppl who av near death experiences, r prone 2 behavioural changes. So, @ OP, life really is simple, not every time looking 4 spiritual meanings. |
Re: What Is The Spiritual Implication Of Blood Transfusion? (if There's Any) by Nairalanda(m): 3:42pm On Nov 27, 2016 |
I can see you are a Jehovah's Witness (JW) and your comments have thus been based on JW doctrine. You have used the word ingest instead of blood transfusion. Can you categorical make reference to a citation that forbids blood transfusion in the JW bible? Remember, the OP did not say his/her friend ate blood as food. The earliest trace to the practice of blood transfusion was in 1665. Some more than 1000 years after the bible was written. The Bible does not know about blood transfusion. The idea of not allowing blood transfusion came to the JW around 1945. The importance of blood to God as you are implying or saying here is simply a carry over from the dark ages. How can you prove that blood is more important to God than the brain or sperm or better still şemen? With your selective choice of word to make your argument against blood transfusion, let's extend and call blood 'body fluid'. So, by the bible and your interpretation of it, you mean God forbids human ingestion of the body fluids of another person because it is so important to Him? Am not sure if you are a man or a woman, but do you not "ingest" the sperm of your husband or your wife not "ingest" your sperm? Why is blood more special than şemen? Which of the two carry "life" information than the other? I agree there are more than one way to treat people for any ailments. Some methods can even be preventive. I will rather you go for any preventive form of medicine so that you do not need transfusion in the first place. If the last resort is to take a transfusion, you may only have 2 choices left. One is to accept it or not. Accepting blood transfusion to you would mean a violation of the doctrine of JW. That means, if you accept blood, God will not be happy perhaps. It may lead to death. My question to you will then be, is God not happier with a preserver of life? Just in case you ask me, "how many JW have died for not accepting blood transfusions?". My answer is I don't know in Nigeria. In the US about 150 JW die annually for refusing blood (American Association of Blood Banks). About 900 JW die worldwide as a result. PS: I am not trying to say JW doctrine is bad or good. I only want you to reason for yourself. No one point of view is right 100% of the time; and there is always another point of view to anything. Paaapad1: An examiner for [url]Pass1Time.com[/url]. |
Re: What Is The Spiritual Implication Of Blood Transfusion? (if There's Any) by daraj: 3:50pm On Nov 27, 2016 |
Omexonomy:the Bible says the life of a person is in his blood, spiritually it is possible, I will strongly suggest he goes for deliverance immediately. |
Re: What Is The Spiritual Implication Of Blood Transfusion? (if There's Any) by Maximus85(m): 3:59pm On Nov 27, 2016 |
porshuch: It's simple English sir. It's not Jehovah Witnesses.... It's Jehovah's Witnesses. We don't even believe in vampires, so why would you say such? Blood is sacred to Jehovah. He said it should be poured to the ground. Blood is life. We don't eat nor take blood into our bodies. It's better to obey God and die than disobeying him and we still die. Americans don't take blood as much as they used to. In an documentry of Aljazera Americans pretends to be Jehovah's Witnesses so as to get blood free treatments. Search YouTube for the documentary. 1 Like |
Re: What Is The Spiritual Implication Of Blood Transfusion? (if There's Any) by beolay2k: 4:11pm On Nov 27, 2016 |
Not a scientist though, but u should understand that our foolishness in following those that we believe knows all he what is making ur friend feel that way. Let me start by saying not all Jehova witness member avoid blood transfusion only those that doesn't value life does. Have been opportuned to witness both in my office where a lady gave birth and needed blood but the husband refused because they worship with Jehova Witness and the lady eventually died. I want to believe the guy has remarried now while on the other hand the lady that died works with a director of mine who also worship with same church and had a transfusion done for her baby with she need it and now the baby is alive and doing well. My submission only foolishness follows does that foolish. Like I said my thought and experience though |
Re: What Is The Spiritual Implication Of Blood Transfusion? (if There's Any) by kenny091(m): 5:21pm On Nov 27, 2016 |
Paaapad1:When I look at the number of inmocent babies that have died on admission at the Special care baby unit because of this unfortunate belief that the babies know nothing about I weep. |
Re: What Is The Spiritual Implication Of Blood Transfusion? (if There's Any) by discman2k2(m): 5:33pm On Nov 27, 2016 |
Omexonomy: Sir, hv u considered d fact dat there's always traces of Nicotine in d blood of a Smoker Donor?Also, when people are angry by nature, dont u think their blood naturally experiences and lives within that High Blood range, which science may have not studied how it replicates in its new host stream? Dont forget, theres a spiritual aspect of the blood that we've refused to acknowledge & study. For those who believe in the Bible, God warns Christians not to play with the blood (for that's where life is). Also, why do we use animals for Spiritual sacrifices? The importance of the blood of any animal, including humans is still not fully comprehended by most pips. I personally dont support blood transfusions. I think i once read abt Jehovah Witnesses (who rejects blood transfusions ) have developed a technique where the deficient in blood is given a natural substance which rapidly produces blood in its recipient. Why is this procedure not popular? |
Re: What Is The Spiritual Implication Of Blood Transfusion? (if There's Any) by Snow5(m): 7:00pm On Nov 27, 2016 |
goldfish80: My blood was 11%...normally for a male human. You are to have above 45% of blood in you before you will be declared sound and healthy.. The woman around 35/40% is their normal blood level.. As some of you know me here... Through my first moniker(patrickdarlings) I am a sickle patient... I was jst left with 11% of blood level.. Which spells doom for me and my family... I was as white as a cotton wool.. My doctor had to do a blood transfusion immediately cos I was looking my life.. I took in 2pints of blood that day.. After that incident eh.. I was this calm and gentle and reserved personality... Lover of books and brilliant to the core... I mean it.. After some months.. Everything around me was irritating me, I get angry so easily... I shout at people so easily.. I don't even care if you are my parent or something.. I see everything as useless before me.. I hate reading, and I stopped eating too well also... Masturbating urge entered into me for almost six months.... I was totally different from myself... My family had to confront the doctor about the kinda blood they gave to me... Or what exactly did they add to the blood.. Too many changes from who I was.. To what the blood transfusion turned me into. The doctor then told my parents that "maybe" it's cos of the blood transfusion.. That I was reacting to it.. Even till now.. I lack self control.. I get angry easily even after talking to my doctors and psychologists abi wetin dem call dem self... My dear.. Too many things to talk about... Blood transfusion does have serious effect and changes.. Just pray yours should be worse. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: What Is The Spiritual Implication Of Blood Transfusion? (if There's Any) by Originalsly: 7:13pm On Nov 27, 2016 |
Snow5:Why you 'can't talk on Nairaland?'... but can post your #?...Please... share your experience. |
Re: What Is The Spiritual Implication Of Blood Transfusion? (if There's Any) by Snow5(m): 7:31pm On Nov 27, 2016 |
Originalsly: Done sir!! |
Re: What Is The Spiritual Implication Of Blood Transfusion? (if There's Any) by Paaapad1: 8:57pm On Nov 27, 2016 |
@Nairalanda, I will encourge you to calm down and look trough the bible verses quoted or cited in your own personal copy of the Bible. Think of what Jehovah is requesting from you as individual, see how it affect you personaly. You may not reply to this forun. Thank you |
Re: What Is The Spiritual Implication Of Blood Transfusion? (if There's Any) by Haddock(m): 9:27pm On Nov 27, 2016 |
Let me illustrate blood transfusion by candles Imagine the donor as a burning candle and the recipient as a dead candle. When the dead candle is lit by the flame of the burning candle, the burning candle does not transfer anything else to the newly lit candle. The candle flame, much like blood, is the LIFE and LIGHT of the candle and it disappears once the candle burns out very much as blood vanishes in a cadaver but it is not the SUBSTANCE nor ESSENCE of the candle. A candle is only useful when it is lit, in the same way, a human being is useful only when alive. God does not feel happy when a human dies, even an evil person, so when blood is used for this cause do you think He will count it as abuse or sin? When God cautions on consumption of blood in Deuteronomy, He was enjoining humans to respect life, even animal life! This respect translates to giving glory to God. The candle illustration may not be the best when matched with this situation because God's creation is beyond human comprehension but let it serve to explain that blood transfusion sustains life. As for the strange behaviours, there could be a psychological explanation, not blood transfusion. |
Re: What Is The Spiritual Implication Of Blood Transfusion? (if There's Any) by jist2day: 9:32pm On Nov 27, 2016 |
kevoh:without the blood your brain can no function.The blood too goes to the brain. |
Re: What Is The Spiritual Implication Of Blood Transfusion? (if There's Any) by blezynetym(f): 9:53pm On Nov 27, 2016 |
My opinion, don't take or eat blood. |
Re: What Is The Spiritual Implication Of Blood Transfusion? (if There's Any) by Pdizzle(m): 10:13pm On Nov 27, 2016 |
wale2020: You boys case could have led to death if it was severe, like we have seen in many cases of Jehovah witnesses. You should let go of unhealthy superstitions. As for the carnivores you mentioned they are actually not as strong as some herbivores like elephants, mammoths, horses, buffalo they just have the weapons to kill[canines and claws]. A giraffe's kick can kill a human so don't think herbivores are weak. 1 Like |
Re: What Is The Spiritual Implication Of Blood Transfusion? (if There's Any) by Nairalanda(m): 12:33am On Nov 28, 2016 |
Paaapad1:Thanks @Paaapad1. I am as calm as you can expect. Are you referring me to the verses for some medical or spiritual advice? I want you to kindly summarise what you wanted me to go and read here. This will not help only me but others too. In as much as I want take your words, you need to show me verifiable data of what you are suggesting I do. I mean data of refusing blood transfusion and how helpful it is for us or for God. I want reasoning not simply saying 'the bible says'. Now we have 2 dataset of how bad blood transfusion can be on Nairaland. I have read 2 behavioural changes as a result of blood transfusion. How I wish some statistician or medics can help gather data on this and verify it's not same kind of India-Nigeria football game of 99-1 against Nigeria and we ended winning. Or the likes of everyone knowing someone who picked up money and vanished. It must be verifiable. I am not all for argument if you understand me. I want you to demonstrate how helpful or useful practically your suggestions are. Thanks. Can anyone here that has PERDONALLY take blood confirm or disagree that they have experienced behavioural changes as a result of such? And how long did it last? An examiner for [url]Pass1time.com[/url]. 1 Like |
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