ScienceWatch:
I think I know what you are saying. I have a similar experience with church that led to deppression and rebellion.

What changed all that was the day I decided to accept the suggestion from my boss that I can learn again about the reality of God as was revealed by Jesus.

I got my decoder installed and secretly examined the miracles etc. I had to learn a little investigation techniques to help me to decide if a certain miracle was real.

Emmanuel TV make it easy, no one can come for healing unless they produce medical proof of their problem.

All the best with your search for truth .

pastors are the worse people u can trust in terms religion cos they are willing to go any far in order to get more member, its good to know that at least ur mind was able to push u in search for truth.

Watching emmanuel TV shows is same as watching the mask magician TV shows, the only difference is mask was able to reveal his secrets after.
Even though I don't have prove but I av seen cases where high level personnel are in involved in fooling people jus for the money and people to believe.


if you really interested in knowing about religion
Go on YouTube and search for darkmatter2525 if u have mind the watch their videos especially their stories, I guess u gonna think more deeper

ScienceWatch:
I have read your very interesting post.
It would be more engaging if you care to list the questions that had you doubting your previous reality.

Their are many questions on religious section maybe u could start from they to enlighten people

obinna58:


pastors are the worse people u can trust in terms religion cos they are willing to go any far in order to get more member, its good to know that at least ur mind was able to push u in search for truth.

Watching emmanuel TV shows is same as watching the mask magician TV shows, the only difference is mask was able to reveal his secrets after.
Even though I don't have prove but I av seen cases where high level personnel are in involved in fooling people jus for the money and people to believe.


if you really interested in knowing about religion
Go on YouTube and search for darkmatter2525 if u have mind the watch their videos especially their stories, I guess u gonna think more deeper

I agree, there are thousands of fake pastors,ministers, priests etc and they are one of the main reasons for millions of innocent people doubting the reality of Christ and God.

I will check Darkmatter on Youtube.

ScienceWatch:
I agree, there are thousands of fake pastors,ministers, priests etc and they are one of the main reasons for millions of innocent people doubting the reality of Christ and God.

I will check Darkmatter on Youtube.

DarkMatter2525 is an atheist YouTuber well known for his satirical and crude animations mostly poking fun at religion.
I pass on this one. We experience what we put our attention on. Poking crude fun at other peoples established religions is not what I ever want to experience. We must choose what we want to experience. That is the real freedom in this sick world.

ScienceWatch:
DarkMatter2525 is an atheist YouTuber well known for his satirical and crude animations mostly poking fun at religion.
I pass on this one. We experience what we put our attention on. Poking crude fun at other peoples established religions is not what I ever want to experience. We must choose what we want to experience. That is the real freedom in this sick world.

There are things that are sacred. If we loose our sense of what is sacred in life, darkness, misery, anguish and destruction is the consequence.

Briefly See what some of the consequences of the Atheist mind-set below;

Best dressed Atheist [/b]Władysław Gomułka (1905-1982)
This is the handsome Atheist leader of post-war Communist Poland, under whose leadership, Soviet terror killed 200,000 to 1 million people.

[b]This womanizing Atheist Leonid Brezhnev (1906-1982)
He was the party loving Atheist leader of Communist Russia (and the Soviet Union) whose genocide in Afghanistan killed 900,000 people.

Agnostic Bhagat Singh (1907-1931) a.k.a. Shaheed Bhagat Singh
He was a rap music loving Indian Marxist who opposed Gandhi's philosophy of non-violence and murdered a police officer and threw bombs into a crowd, causing injuries but fortunately no deaths. He wrote a work called "Why I am an Atheist," saying, "Where is God? What is He doing? Is He getting a diseased pleasure out of it? A Nero! A Genghis Khan! Down with Him!"

Scuba diving Atheist Le Duan (1907-1986) a.k.a. Lê Duẩn
This nature loving Atheist politician of Communist Vietnam who extra-judicially executed more than 100,000 people.

Atheist reformist Truong Chinh (1907-1988)
a.k.a. Trường Chinh or Đặng Xuân Khu
This kind loving family man and Atheist leader of Communist Vietnam who executed 50,000 to 100,000 during his social reforms of Vietnam.

Enver Hoxha (1908-1985)
This is the well loved Atheist Leader of Communist Albania who killed more than 100,000 of his own citizens.

Ne Win (1910-2002)
He was a well loved politician and Atheist leader of Burma/Myanmar who ruled with a Marxist-Buddhist ideology and killed up to 10,000 protesters.

Todor Zhivkov (1911-1998)
He was proudly Atheist and the head of State in Communist Bulgaria, under whose leadership the country's agricultural collectivization and political repression resulted in the deaths of 31,000 to 100,000 people (though some portion of these deaths happened under the few shorter-lived Marxist leaders before him, including Atheist Valko Chervenkov and Atheist Anton Yugov).

obinna58:

Their are many questions on religious section maybe u could start from they to enlighten people

Here are only a few more examples of the consequences of Atheism ;

Kim Jong-un (1983-)
North Korean dictator who maintained North Korea as an atheist state and executed about 70 people just in the first few years of his reign to secure his power as well as for personal vendetta. Some of these executions were done "creatively," such as by anti-aircraft gun, mortar shell, and tying someone to a stake while torching them with a flame-thrower. He also killed, tortured, and starved an unknown amount of other people, numbering at least in the hundreds.

Michael Adam Carneal (1983-)
A self-professed atheist who went to a religious youth group in Kentucky and began shooting them after the opening prayer, murdering three girls and wounding five others.

Seung-Hui Cho (1984-2007)
South Korean mass shooter who killed 32 students (before killing himself) in the "Virginia Tech Shooting." He apparently had become an atheist, having dropped out of his church, and, according to his roommate, had "railed against his parents' strong Christian faith."

Matti Juhani Saari (1986-2008)
Finnish atheist who shot and killed 10 people in the "Kauhajoki school shooting," before committing suicide.

James Holmes (1987-) a.k.a. "The Dark Knight Killer"
American mass murderer who was convicted on 24 counts of murder and 140 counts of attempted murder, having shot up a movie theater in Aurora, Colorado, which was playing the film "The Dark Knight Rises" while he was dressed as the Joker. He had labelled himself an agnostic on an online dating service website (which, according to some atheists, would make him qualify as an atheist).

Jeffrey James Weise (1988-2005) a.k.a. Jeff Weise
Ojibwe student who killed 9 and injured 7 people at Red Lake Senior High School, after which he then shot himself. His behavior during the shooting spree indicated militant atheism as a motive. He shot a female teacher in response to her saying, "God be with us," and then turned and asked a student, "Do you believe in God?" to which the student answered, "No," and consequently spared the student and proceeded to find alternate targets.

Jared Lee Loughner (1988-)
Atheist mass shooter in the 2011 Tucson shooting, killing 6 people (including a U.S. District Court Judge) and injuring 13 others (including a U.S. Representative). He was an outspoken critic of US currency having the phrase "In God We Trust," repeatedly mocked all religion (especially Christianity), and said Karl Marx's "The Communist Manifesto" was one of his favorite books.

Pekka-Eric Auvinen (1989-2007)
Finnish student and Nazi enthusiast who shot and killed 8 people before killing himself in the "Jokela school shooting." He described himself as a "godlike atheist," having said, "I, as a natural selector, will eliminate all who I see unfit."

Christopher Sean Harper-Mercer (1989-2015)
a.k.a. Chris Harper Mercer
Mass murderer from California who killed 9 people at Umpqua Community College in Oregon, the deadliest shooting in the state's history. He described himself as an atheist on his MySpace page and asked multiple people if they were Christians and then shot them after they answered yes.

Elliot Rodger (1991-2014)
Atheist mass murderer who killed 6 people and injured 14 others at the University of California, Santa Barbara, using multiple guns and knives, and then committed suicide. He had written in his journal: "I am the closest thing there is to a living god. Humanity is a disgusting, depraved, and evil species. It is my purpose to punish them all."

obinna58:

Unfortunately I was a born and raised from a christian family and I av seen many miracles and heard different stories and testimonies which triggered my disbelief.
I av ask many questions but yet no true answer
Saying I'm not a true christian, jus check my profile and u see my story
My body suddenly went dead in beliefs after discovering the impact of religion on us

Read here
https://www.nairaland.com/3555282/nairaland-destroyed-many-religious-soul

I did read it. Very basic. No real facts.

obinna58:

U are so desperate to an extent of talking what only comes on your mind without thinking backwards
U called mine false
And urs true and not falsified by religion in quest to enslave the world.
OK but here is what u should know
"Religion has eaten u so deep which makes recovery impossible"

you make some good points here. Why is it lacking in your other mentions ?

AlfaSeltzer:


How you take know all these?

Where you there?

It is a good question to ask, "Were you there" to counter verifiable facts.

You are an Atheist that believe in science, the info they give you on the planets, right ? Can I ask you if you were there?

AlfaSeltzer:
copy and paste xtian. use your head for once.

This Atheist isnt trying to engage in legitimate discussion on a topic. He is trying to provoke, so he can count brownie points when he get back to his den of mentally disturbed friends.
Their leader, Mentally disturbed Prof Richard Dawkins, has taught them to break the law and use bigotry, insults and destroy all holy doctrines of Islam and Christians.

This is nonsense, and you are stupid as bricks.

To begin with, Atheism is a fvcking Greek-Latin word. It's a fvcking Greek-Latin word because the rejection of belief in gods has existed since the times of ancient Greece
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democritus)
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euripides)
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euhemerus)
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenophanes)
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diagoras_of_Melos)

and ancient India
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charvaka),

hundreds of years before Jesus was even born. The simple lack of belief in god likely has existed far longer, with some traditional hunter-gatherer cultures in the Congo not holding any religious or spiritual beliefs whatsoever.

Pointing at atheists you don't like in history does not earn you or your faith any credence. If you cannot provide evidence for the existence of a god, then your arguments fall flat. Also, your depiction of the Bolshevik Revolution against the Russian empire is disgustingly ignorant and one-sided. Why do you not mention the horrible slavelike treatment of Russian serfs under the White Russian Royal Government, where businessmen and nobility lived in luxury at their expense? Or the fact that the Christian White Russian Government forged fake information about evil jewish organisations that they spread in Russian townships in order to demonise and scapegoat Russian Jews for the problems of the poor and to discourage people from joining the Bolsheviks, something that resulted in massive pogroms and lynchings of ethnic and religious Jews? Something that led to countless thousands of deaths, and the immigration of over 2 million fleeing Jewish Russians?

You want to engage in legitimate discussion? Alright. Prove a god exists.

CyrusTheGreat:
This is nonsense, and you are stupid as bricks.

To begin with, Atheism is a fvcking Greek-Latin word. It's a fvcking Greek-Latin word because the rejection of belief in gods has existed since the times of ancient Greece

You want to engage in legitimate discussion? Alright. Prove a god exists.

It has been proven billions of times throughout history. Einstein proved that even simple grass reveal a divine intelligence. four prophets of atheism and many more all had powerful domineering fathers. They were fearful, weak, submissive kids. They all grew up with a history of headaches, depression , obsessive fears, extreme shyness, intestinal disorders, and made it there lives work to destroy God who had come to symbolize there fathers.
“ Its Madness”

[b]We all agree that the most brilliant and cruel leaders in the field of psychiatry and psychology
are from Germany.

A 22-year old study at a German University has many psychiatrists and psychologists throughout the world wondering if atheism/ deism, agnosticsm is a sign or warning of a more serious mental illness already present or in the process of developing. Atheists or people who are very strident about their atheism are heavily prone to mental illness:

“There were 17,809 people in the study. It was a very large model as far as psychological experiments go.” This came as quite a shock to us as we studied patient after patient.”

The results of this study have unnerved even the most stoic scientists, physicians and researchers.

obinna58:
I turned from christian to confirm atheist and I'm so proud I did

Lies lies lies lies everywhere in this world but at a point I get fed up with lies and started living a real life

Most atheists r liars. There is a burning vacuum inside of u that u only temporarily fill up by social media antagonistic arguments. Friend, u always lie to urself. There is a giant void in u that only God can fill. U hide a lot of things here just because u wish to paint ur world as perfect.
I put it to u that u never were a true Christian who loves God and had a personal relationship with him. If u were, it wud be d maddest thing to ever fall into disbelief.

Epicureanism is a system of philosophy based upon the teachings of the ancient Greek philosopher Epicurus, founded around 307 BC. Epicurus was an atomic materialist, following in the steps of Democritus. His materialism led him to a general attack on superstition and divine intervention

those people that the op mentioned did not begin any atheism. What a fallacy!

Here is an example of an atheist from the year 307 BC.

ScienceWatch:
It has been proven billions of times throughout history. Einstein proved that even simple grass reveal a divine intelligence. four prophets of atheism and many more all had powerful domineering fathers. They were fearful, weak, submissive kids. They all grew up with a history of headaches, depression , obsessive fears, extreme shyness, intestinal disorders, and made it there lives work to destroy God who had come to symbolize there fathers.
“ Its Madness”

We all agree that the most brilliant and cruel leaders in the field of psychiatry and psychology
are from Germany.

A 22-year old study at a German University has many psychiatrists and psychologists throughout the world wondering if atheism/ deism, agnosticsm is a sign or warning of a more serious mental illness already present or in the process of developing. Atheists or people who are very strident about their atheism are heavily prone to mental illness:

“There were 17,809 people in the study. It was a very large model as far as psychological experiments go.” This came as quite a shock to us as we studied patient after patient.”

The results of this study have unnerved even the most stoic scientists, physicians and researchers.

Now that you know that Atheists are mentally ill, what do you suggest? Perhaps they should be put in strait jackets and locked up?

Ronpet777:


Most atheists r liars. There is a burning vacuum inside of u that u only temporarily fill up by social media antagonistic arguments.

Lol.

Ronpet777:


Most atheists r liars. There is a burning vacuum inside of u that u only temporarily fill up by social media antagonistic arguments. Friend, u always lie to urself. There is a giant void in u that only God can fill. U hide a lot of things here just because u wish to paint ur world as perfect.
I put it to u that u never were a true Christian who loves God and had a personal relationship with him. If u were, it wud be d maddest thing to ever fall into disbelief.

Truth and sincerity leads people away from stupid beliefs, you can never have a relationship with someone you can't see, touch, feel, someone that completely has no connection with you life

obinna58:

Truth and sincerity leads people away from stupid beliefs, you can never have a relationship with someone you can't see, touch, feel, someone that completely has no connection with you life

Do u knw we r from two worlds? I live God, I breathe God, I see him in every aspect of my life and He answers my prayers. U see, religion is bad, it makes pple dogmatic, they r told things they don't see, true Christianity is not religious. It is having a personal relation with God tru Christ Jesus.
To someone like me, he is mad who says there is no God. I feel d person needs his brain examined. How can nothing makes something.?? U need to knw that God is a good script writer. He is very intriguing. He reveals himself to some and hide from some until their minds her prepared and soften enough for him to show up. My friend, u need to realign ur self with a better hrt.
Where u r right now is a state of complete confusion.I ask u now,has atheism solved ur curiosity about existence?

PastorAIO:
Epicureanism is a system of philosophy based upon the teachings of the ancient Greek philosopher Epicurus, founded around 307 BC. Epicurus was an atomic materialist, following in the steps of Democritus. His materialism led him to a general attack on superstition and divine intervention

those people that the op mentioned did not begin any atheism. What a fallacy!

Here is an example of an atheist from the year 307 BC.

I hv read many of ur comments and I must say I find them very fascinating and full of insights. Reveal to me what ur true religion is. Are u an atheist?

Ronpet777:

I hv read many of ur comments and I must say I find them very fascinating and full of insights. Reveal to me what ur true religion is. Are u an atheist?

No, I'm not an atheist. I'm a theist who outgrew christianity.

PastorAIO:


No, I'm not an atheist. I'm a theist who outgrew christianity.

Outgrew it into Wot exactly? I hv seen u arguing in favour of atheists at some points sir.

Ronpet777:

Outgrew it into Wot exactly? I hv seen u arguing in favour of atheists at some points sir.

I have argue 'in favour' of atheists many many times. That is because they presented solid points with back up references etc, while on the other hand, all the religionist folks could do is invent fables, and gnash their teeth and issue threats and curses at their discussants. It's a very poor look for the 'christians'. A very very poor look.

Someone who believes he is on the side of the truth does not invent fables on the go as he is having a discussion.

I have discussed with christians here on nairaland where I would say that Jewishness is passed on through the mother to the children, so if your father is jewish yet your mother is not then you cannot call yourself a jew. Only someone whose mother is jewish can be considered a jew (unless they convert, of course).
I couldn't believe her response. Telling me how is that possible. Asking me whether I can claim my mother's tribe over my father's or some such nonsense. I realised that what a lot of these people are actually doing is taking the tribal beliefs and culture of whatever village they come from in Nigeria and superimposing that over christianity and Judaism.

I realised that actually it is impossible for a lot of my people to practice christianity as it is taught today. Why? well, for a start, modern day christianity required regular reading of the bible and an understanding of the context of what they are reading. In other words it requires a considerable amount of study in order to know what it is that you are following. Unfortunately my people are not so inclined to that degree of studying, even just reading casually is too hard for them.
Next, They would need a considerable amount of knowledge of a foreign culture, a culture that is so far removed from them, not just geographically but also historically. It would require an understand of Jewish culture from 2000 years ago. My people don't have this knowledge and are not inclined to go and find out.


Christianity is just a vehicle for people to project their fantasies, mostly hateful and deluded, unto the world. It is not really a religion in the way that I understand the word.

Another instance of inventing fables on the go, Is it not in front of you that Emmanystone stated that Angel Gabriel must announce his name if he appears to humans? where did that law come from?
Yet if you say something as obvious and basic as the fact that James is a derivation of Jacob, or Jesus and Joshua are the same name, they will start to shout. It's obvious that they don't know the cultures from which their religion come and subsequently their knowledge of the religion is half baked.

Yet another instance came to my awareness while discussing tithes. Someone argued that Tithes were agricultural products then because in those days the only profession was Farming. Thankfully she accepted when I showed her many passages from the old testament talking about various other professionals.



So what have I outgrown into?

What I believe is a bit encapsulated in this post:

Anyway, let's move on to religion. Without talking about God directly I want to say that I believe that our concepts and our perceptions are some degrees removed from Reality and truth. Therefore whatever we think, whatever ideologies we entertain, can never be the Truth as it really is. This applies to everything, not only God. We can never have an accurate concept of God. Similarly we can never even have an accurate concept of our own being.

Huxley has just started a thread asking what Right and Righteousness are which I hope to contribute to soon. When it comes to the practical application of Religion, ie how do we conduct our lives on a day to day basis, I believe that we ought to strive to do the Right thing. What's that?
I believe that the Right thing has been articulated variously in various cultures around the world in various times.

In Arab culture it is called Fitra

In yoruba it is called Ayanmo

In China it is call Tao

In India it is called Dharma

In Igbo land it is called Chi

etc etc

I believe that Striving to do the Right thing is the purest form of worshipping God that there is. In fact it is the only way to worship God.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=295066.msg4170631#msg4170631

How do you know what the Right thing is? It is written in your heart. and it accessed through the Spirit. It cannot be codified into laws and ethical systems. Such Laws and ethics might help to point you to what is within but they are not it. Quite possibly they can also become a stumbling block and actually block you from accessing what is within due to an excessive fixation on the Law. eg. Parzival's failure to ask Amfortas about his wound because his uncle had given him strict rules not to ask personal questions.

Just as reality is mercurial and hard to reduce into a human concept, so is the Right thing mercurial and hard to reduce into a rigid Legal system.


I recall a post by M_Nwankwo way back in march that rang a bell with me.
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-241816.0.html#msg3543176

The part where he says this:
I do not agree that good or evil is determined by what human beings believe to be morally right or wrong. My position is that good or evil arises as a result of obedience or disobedience to the will of God by creatures that possess free will. And man is one such creature that have free will.

and this:
To judge correctly wheather something is good or evil, one has to be able to sense the core (spiritual decision), the motive, the imagination, the thoughts, the words and the actions. Unfortunately, most of us are only able to make judjement based on the the shells particularly words and actions and then we go astray. That means that we rely on the human brain to judge and the human brain in itself cannot recognise the will of God, that is it is incapable of differentiationg good from evil except it is directed by the human spirit.

and this:

I do not rely on books to make spiritual decisons. I rely on the faculties of my spirit and these faculties are capable of looking into the book of life and draw from it events that has happened in the past.

And this response:

Quote
mad-man has tied 4 people to a train track and there is a train coming down the line. The line forks and there are three people on the fork where the train is heading and one on the other fork. You are unable to untie them but you have the power to throw the switch on the tracks. Do you let the three people die or do you redirect the train so that just one dies?
Take that a bit further, imagine the one person is a child. What would you do then?
And then consider the same sort of scenario with a twist. You are on a bridge and there are a dozen people tied to the train track. This time you cannot reach a switch and the train is going to run them over. But just then, a fat man walks over the bridge. Your only way of stopping the train from killing those dozen people is by throwing the fat man over the bridge, onto the tracks and derailing the train. Would you do it?



The scenarious you mentioned are not real. However I will aswer them. I will act as God guides me and if it is according to his will that all we be saved, God will provide the scenarious not mentioned in your hypothetical question that will result in me saving all of them. Thus for me, Life is sacred and a gift of God. No one life is more important than the other.




I sure that you know there is more, but let us start here.

from here: https://www.nairaland.com/335826/pastor-aio-come-teach-us#4712314

Ronpet777:


Do u knw we r from two worlds? I live God, I breathe God, I see him in every aspect of my life and He answers my prayers. U see, religion is bad, it makes pple dogmatic, they r told things they don't see, true Christianity is not religious. It is having a personal relation with God tru Christ Jesus.
To someone like me, he is mad who says there is no God. I feel d person needs his brain examined. How can nothing makes something.?? U need to knw that God is a good script writer. He is very intriguing. He reveals himself to some and hide from some until their minds her prepared and soften enough for him to show up. My friend, u need to realign ur self with a better hrt.
Where u r right now is a state of complete confusion.I ask u now,has atheism solved ur curiosity about existence?

Absolutely what I would say about God when I'm still a hardcore believer, parading Christianity as not religion doesn't change what it really is, belief is a product of human, it fills us with hope and our desires cos everyone badly needed God to be and as well posses the characters in our believes, but that doesn't change the situation and pure facts we see,
When you read the secred book and couldn't figure how monstrous religion proclaim an unseen being(God) and yet still claiming to know right and wrong then it's a result of subjection to fear, desires, or even insanity.
By the way if Nothing can not make something does that in anyway proves out thousands of religions that Jesus Christ is the real deal? I guess not and even if God exist the last he would want is people merely believing in him

PastorAIO:


I have argue 'in favour' of atheists many many times. That is because they presented solid points with back up references etc, while on the other hand, all the religionist folks could do is invent fables, and gnash their teeth and issue threats and curses at their discussants. It's a very poor look for the 'christians'. A very very poor look.

Someone who believes he is on the side of the truth does not invent fables on the go as he is having a discussion.

I have discussed with christians here on nairaland where I would say that Jewishness is passed on through the mother to the children, so if your father is jewish yet your mother is not then you cannot call yourself a jew. Only someone whose mother is jewish can be considered a jew (unless they convert, of course).
I couldn't believe her response. Telling me how is that possible. Asking me whether I can claim my mother's tribe over my father's or some such nonsense. I realised that what a lot of these people are actually doing is taking the tribal beliefs and culture of whatever village they come from in Nigeria and superimposing that over christianity and Judaism.

I realised that actually it is impossible for a lot of my people to practice christianity as it is taught today. Why? well, for a start, modern day christianity required regular reading of the bible and an understanding of the context of what they are reading. In other words it requires a considerable amount of study in order to know what it is that you are following. Unfortunately my people are not so inclined to that degree of studying, even just reading casually is too hard for them.
Next, They would need a considerable amount of knowledge of a foreign culture, a culture that is so far removed from them, not just geographically but also historically. It would require an understand of Jewish culture from 2000 years ago. My people don't have this knowledge and are not inclined to go and find out.


Christianity is just a vehicle for people to project their fantasies, mostly hateful and deluded, unto the world. It is not really a religion in the way that I understand the word.

Another instance of inventing fables on the go, Is it not in front of you that Emmanystone stated that Angel Gabriel must announce his name if he appears to humans? where did that law come from?
Yet if you say something as obvious and basic as the fact that James is a derivation of Jacob, or Jesus and Joshua are the same name, they will start to shout. It's obvious that they don't know the cultures from which their religion come and subsequently their knowledge of the religion is half baked.

Yet another instance came to my awareness while discussing tithes. Someone argued that Tithes were agricultural products then because in those days the only profession was Farming. Thankfully she accepted when I showed her many passages from the old testament talking about various other professionals.



So what have I outgrown into?

What I believe is a bit encapsulated in this post:

from here: https://www.nairaland.com/335826/pastor-aio-come-teach-us#4712314

Hmmmm!I am relieved to knw that u believe in God at least.

PastorAIO:

Another instance of inventing fables on the go, Is it not in front of you that Emmanystone stated that Angel Gabriel must announce his name if he appears to humans? where did that law come from?
Yet if you say something as obvious and basic as the fact that James is a derivation of Jacob, or Jesus and Joshua are the same name, they will start to shout. It's obvious that they don't know the cultures from which their religion come and subsequently their knowledge of the religion is half baked.

You are just mentioning me upandan like say e dey compulsory say i must respond to you. If you talk i no ansa you, no mean say ya mouth big pass my mouth o, na be say, weytin dey push you different from weytin dey push me.
When you want to tell your lies, do that when the person you are lying against can't respond.

Pls show me where i said Angel Gabriel MUST introduce himself before talking as a law? Which kind lie be this nau? Dem go pay you?

I said, he usually calms the fears of anyone he has a message for, by telling them his name then his mission. And, i asked you why Jiril couldn't do that to Muhammed, if he was Gabriel, but rather tried to strangulate him. He inflicted fear which led to muhammed submitting to him by force.


Why won't you for a while leave their names alone let's talk about their characters and Mode of operations. This is how you know the original from the fake.

Ronpet777:


Hmmmm!I am relieved to knw that u believe in God at least.

He is not a Christian bros. He is one of those sorcerers pretending to be Christians. Accusing God for the evils humans commit.
Can a Christian call Yahweh Yahoo? Can a Christian call Jesus Lucifer because Lucifer was referred to as the morning star before his fall, and Jesus is called the Bright and the Morning Star?

Read his posts. The guy is everywhere opposing Christians and every Christian doctrine. I don't care for him biko. Allah is not YHWH. It's not about the Title god, it's about their ways and works.

I decided to ignore him, because if i keep on, that might just turn out like a display of pride to win an argument.

Let him rant.

Satan has been trying to be God from Adam, he can't be.

Emmanystone:

He is not a Christian bros. He is one of those sorcerers pretending to be Christians. Accusing God for the evils humans commit.
Can a Christian call Yahweh Yahoo? Can a Christian call Jesus Lucifer because Lucifer was referred to as the morning star before his fall, and Jesus is called the Bright and the Morning Star?

Read his posts. The guy is everywhere opposing Christians and every Christian doctrine. I don't care for him biko. Allah is not YHWH. It's not about the Title god, it's about their ways and works.

I decided to ignore him, because if i keep on, that might just turn out like a display of pride to win an argument.

Let him rant.

Satan has been trying to be God from Adam, he can't be.

Thanks sis, I kinda wonder y he is not being explicit with his religion.

Lol. Nigerian Christian have to be the most ignorant, backward stock in the world. Even Jesus won't identify with their Christianity at this point. ..how did ignorancr become so sacred?

sonofluc1fer:
Lol.how did ignorancr become so sacred?

Ever since you became its mascot.

butterflyl1on:


Ever since you became its mascot.

Would make sense if I were Christian.. Follow someone else, pls, you're no longer interesting to me. Go join Keb in the ignore list.

sonofluc1fer:

Still need my attention, jobless dad?

Yes your dad has made it life son so needs no job now. He is now busy brushing up obtuse young men like you son.

butterflyl1on:


Yes your dad has made it life son so needs no job now. He is now busy brushing up obtuse young men like you son.

Butterflypaedophile looking for a bl0wjob...

Now I understand the fascination. You'll be ignored forever..