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Re: Kaduna Government Officially Labels Shiite IMN "Insurgent" by buffalowings: 5:55pm On Dec 05, 2016 |
Make dem sha restrict themselves to the north Me I no want whala o I Don talk my own Useless people 1 Like |
Re: Kaduna Government Officially Labels Shiite IMN "Insurgent" by goshen26: 5:58pm On Dec 05, 2016 |
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Re: Kaduna Government Officially Labels Shiite IMN "Insurgent" by Topgainer: 5:58pm On Dec 05, 2016 |
Shiites do not appear to be a problem not now not in future. All that seems to be its Leaders troubles stemmed from an interview he granted pre 2015 elections calling on Gen Buhari and Goodluck Jonathan not to contest the 2015 elections as according to him both men lack what it takes to move the country forwards. I have been waiting to hear when Mallam will meet with Gen Buhari on the importance of combing the forest for Submachine gun wielding herdsmen maybe investigate and trace their sponsors. Let the combing start from Southern Kaduna villages. If this is not done, I'll be tempted to fly with the theory that both Mallam and Gen Buhari are loyalists of the murderous group. I am, of course yet to come to terms with the financial support (also called compensation) given by Mallam to the Murderous herdmen whereas no farmer whose settlements were destroyed, ( much easier to trace than going to 11 countries looking for Fulani cowboy) was compensated. If the Elitist founders of Bokoharam had seen a vision that one day the group will grow beyond their control and bring North East to a halt leaving in its wake death of thousands, they may have had a second thought in financing the Islamic group. 2 Likes |
Re: Kaduna Government Officially Labels Shiite IMN "Insurgent" by buffalowings: 5:59pm On Dec 05, 2016 |
Re: Kaduna Government Officially Labels Shiite IMN "Insurgent" by Pavore9: 6:04pm On Dec 05, 2016 |
buffalowings: Because even crisis in the Middle east that is fundamentally Sunnis vs Shiite that began centuries ago is being blamed on the U.S! Yeye people! 1 Like |
Re: Kaduna Government Officially Labels Shiite IMN "Insurgent" by HAH: 6:05pm On Dec 05, 2016 |
JimmySnow: Please tell me one terrorist act sponsored by Iran or done by shia as a group, clearly you are product of US media propaganda against Iran, the whole world knows that all terrorist are sunni wahabis like isis, alqaeda and boko haram. 1 Like |
Re: Kaduna Government Officially Labels Shiite IMN "Insurgent" by masseratti: 6:24pm On Dec 05, 2016 |
Can we also say the Sunni Muslims that kills and maimed people in the North,we should hold the Sultan responsible? MN is an Islamic sect, if any member breaks the law he should be prosecuted, not persecute the whole organization. 1 Like |
Re: Kaduna Government Officially Labels Shiite IMN "Insurgent" by lomprico(m): 6:25pm On Dec 05, 2016 |
KingOvoramwen1: Shebi he said they have paid d fulanis to stop killing He shld also pay d shiites to stop insurging. Useless APC government! 1 Like |
Re: Kaduna Government Officially Labels Shiite IMN "Insurgent" by annayawchee: 6:26pm On Dec 05, 2016 |
Well am not concerned... It's north problem.... ![]() |
Re: Kaduna Government Officially Labels Shiite IMN "Insurgent" by annayawchee: 6:28pm On Dec 05, 2016 |
HAH:What about houthis? |
Re: Kaduna Government Officially Labels Shiite IMN "Insurgent" by monex(m): 6:30pm On Dec 05, 2016 |
eDoctorr:are you sure he considers them muslim? |
Re: Kaduna Government Officially Labels Shiite IMN "Insurgent" by greenermodels: 6:30pm On Dec 05, 2016 |
crosbreaka:those izala guys are the real terrorists. i heard buhari is a member but i don't know how true it is. |
Re: Kaduna Government Officially Labels Shiite IMN "Insurgent" by Docray: 6:38pm On Dec 05, 2016 |
Good judgement. Buh this cud be a guise |
Re: Kaduna Government Officially Labels Shiite IMN "Insurgent" by Docray: 6:40pm On Dec 05, 2016 |
Shebi he said they have paid d fulanis to stop killing He shld also pay d shiites to stop insurging. Useless APC government! Everything aint politics 1 Like |
Re: Kaduna Government Officially Labels Shiite IMN "Insurgent" by HAH: 6:54pm On Dec 05, 2016 |
annayawchee: Houthis are a political group just like IPOB in Nigeria, yes they are shiaa and make armed struggle but they are not known for terrorism activities like suicide bombing, etc carried out by sunni wahabi terrorist like isis, alqaeda and Boko haram |
Re: Kaduna Government Officially Labels Shiite IMN "Insurgent" by onward4life(m): 7:09pm On Dec 05, 2016 |
The same People that prevented USA from labelling Biko Halam a Terrorist group. Abi At the expense of blood! 1 Like |
Re: Kaduna Government Officially Labels Shiite IMN "Insurgent" by annayawchee: 7:30pm On Dec 05, 2016 |
HAH:Say God ![]() HAH:Say God |
Re: Kaduna Government Officially Labels Shiite IMN "Insurgent" by ThinkSmarter: 8:39pm On Dec 05, 2016 |
Kwankwassiyya or Lamido will deliver more than dis grand pa ,El Rufai for good but he z a religious extremist, and Nigeria does not need a leader that z too obsessed with religion, Like as we re witnessing presently. May God grant to us a leader with the political n moral will to take us to the point of making exploits, and finally take our place in the committee of nations. So help us God....... amen. #China should be our Role model 1 Like |
Re: Kaduna Government Officially Labels Shiite IMN "Insurgent" by Nobody: 8:43pm On Dec 05, 2016 |
ourleader:What evil are you talking about? 1 Like |
Re: Kaduna Government Officially Labels Shiite IMN "Insurgent" by Nobody: 9:09pm On Dec 05, 2016 |
Please who has a copy of this white-paper. it is interesting that the Kaduna State Government will present justification backed by research and facts in order to come to this decision. but are we sure there is a white paper and if there is.. have all the issues surrounding it been considered or deliberated upon objectively .. not to long ago a small group of religious zealots formed a community outside the suburbs to practice Sharia in its true form as they claimed. they gradually started preaching extremist and secessionist views. The FG cracked down on them hard, martyred Mohammed Yussuf and gave rise to a leading Terrorist Group Boko Haram. Today there are some who feel that the sacrifice of war against Boko Haram could have been averted or managed better at the early stages when shady Governors and tactless Military and Police incursions proved our undoing. till date millions are internally displaced, we face a food crisis and a palpable fear of insecurity all across Nigeria. We are presented with a similar situation and given the opportunity to manage it with tact and objectivity. Force will only inflame the passions of fanaticism.. worse if the guy dies as many expect.. it will blow-out into a raging fire that neither Mallam El Rufai cannot handle nor sustain without incurring heavy loss economically and in human lives. Let us not make the same mistake over and over again 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kaduna Government Officially Labels Shiite IMN "Insurgent" by nlugliest: 10:44pm On Dec 05, 2016 |
Government should not be too quick to label them insugents considering the relationship between this Shiite movement and Iran. We should know that if we don't want Iran to remotely use them against us, their issue should be treated with outright sensitivity, so that we won't have IDP camps all over Kaduna too. Stakeholders in Kaduna should check the ties between Iran and hezbollah to understand me a great deal. 1 Like |
Re: Kaduna Government Officially Labels Shiite IMN "Insurgent" by Newmanluckyman(m): 10:55pm On Dec 05, 2016 |
Onyocha:... When trouble the sleep and iyanga go the wake am up na wetin him the find? Na wahala e go see! |
Re: Kaduna Government Officially Labels Shiite IMN "Insurgent" by topzeezo: 12:45am On Dec 06, 2016 |
Wat kind of gonorrhoea governor is this shiite are not humans? |
Re: Kaduna Government Officially Labels Shiite IMN "Insurgent" by topzeezo: 12:49am On Dec 06, 2016 |
By Pastor James El-Rufai has officially gone mad! He is paying Fulani terrorists to stop killing Christians, while he labels a religious organization that has not carried arms against the state or fellow Nigerians "insurgents". Why not pay the Shiite IMN money too to stop being "insurgents"? Oh, wait! it is because the IMN are not deadly and bloodthirsty. It is impossible for any government, power, tyrant, or force to eliminate a population. Read more... |
Re: Kaduna Government Officially Labels Shiite IMN "Insurgent" by kazlaw2000: 2:02am On Dec 06, 2016 |
nlugliest:Iran will use them either way they are treated. Iran is interested in creating Hezbollah-style militia in every country. They are desperately interested in making a 'Lebanon' of every country where a Shiite militia would be a key player in government. The problem may not necessarily be Shiism but Iranian funded Shiite imperialism. And for the multitude condeming the Kaduna State govt decision, hope you understand that it is a group ( so called IMN) which is a Nigerian Hezbollah spring board that was labelled as insurgents not all Shiites generally? |
Re: Kaduna Government Officially Labels Shiite IMN "Insurgent" by EFCC777: 5:51am On Dec 06, 2016 |
Rafidi:u sound like one of them but I advice you to denounce your membership if really you are their member because Nigerian can't allow another bokoharam to just spring up just like that. so wise up |
Re: Kaduna Government Officially Labels Shiite IMN "Insurgent" by rhektor(m): 6:01am On Dec 06, 2016 |
TroubleMaker47: Are they not? |
Re: Kaduna Government Officially Labels Shiite IMN "Insurgent" by ThinkSmarter: 6:15am On Dec 06, 2016 |
Nigeria does not need a leader that z a religious extremist/fanatics, in the likes of Buhari and El Rufai, Bc they belong to Sunni sect will not cause them to tag their Shia brodas insurgents, The West hv been able to tolerate n embrace all religions including Shia despite their war against terrorism Bc they knew they re not what their Sunni brodas labeled them , El Rufai shud be civilized and tolerant of people that share different religious views from him. itz Their civic/fundamental Right. U will only checkmate the excesses of a Religious group when they try to cross their boundaries within the ambit of the Law. |
Re: Kaduna Government Officially Labels Shiite IMN "Insurgent" by ikupakuti(m): 7:30am On Dec 06, 2016 |
Buhari/hellrufa‘i will end up tearing the north apart with their hidden agenda of making wahabism de facto islamic sect in nigeria Now its the shias... next they‘ll go for other sects So the devlish fulani herdsmen that are being paid with taxpayers‘ money to lay low are not insurgents but a group that has never taken up arms against the state are.. even when they were brutally oppressed by the state? And to think that midget is aspiring to rule this country |
Re: Kaduna Government Officially Labels Shiite IMN "Insurgent" by Nobody: 7:37am On Dec 06, 2016 |
Rafidi:You pls get enough fact before talking, come & ask us in Zaria Kaduna state if the said followers carry arms or not.Then you'll get more informed.The media may not give you details.THEY ACTUALLY CARRIED ARMS IN ZARIA ALONG PZ/ TUDUN WADA ROAD. |
Re: Kaduna Government Officially Labels Shiite IMN "Insurgent" by nlugliest: 8:46am On Dec 06, 2016 |
kazlaw2000: I get your point sir, what I am saying in essence is that if Kaduna state government want a long lasting resolution over this religious bigotry, she should not tag them insurgents yet because this will further instigate them to be more violent as a result of the mental damage that word insurgency will further cause in their gullible brains. Remember the moment Bokoharam was tagged terrorist, their violent activities increased and they also pledged allegiance to ISIS which made them the deadliest and gave them access to multiple stream of funding and equipping. |
Re: Kaduna Government Officially Labels Shiite IMN "Insurgent" by Onyocha: 1:49pm On Dec 06, 2016 |
kazlaw2000: My dear, let us talk like educated people. What is happening is exactly the reason Iran would want to use these people to cause Nigeria headache. These people are Nigerians. They share faith with the Iranians. Sunnis share faith with Saudis. There's Saudi-Iran rivalry. Is it by killing them, and making provocative labeling that will ensure Iran hands off? The allegation that the IMN would become another hezbollah is myopic and speaks either of someone who is uninformed of world affairs or biased. There is no parallel between hezbollah and the IMN other than both being Shia and there is also no parallel between hezbollah and takfiri Sunni terror groups. Banning IMN because you fear hezbollah is like banning Wahhabi Izala because you fear Alqaeda. You can look at the genesis of hezbollah in Lebanon. Going through Wikipedia will explain a lot. Hezbollah started as a reaction to Israeli occupation of southern Lebanon which is predominantly Shia. It is a liberation movement just like Mandela's ANC and the bolivarian movements in Latin America. Hezbollah doesn't go about bombing Sunni and Christian places of worship. Recently, Lebanon elected as president the former military chief, a Christian who heads a parliamentary bloc. This man is Christian and he's an ally of hezbollah. Hezbollah is an ally of the Syrian government and fighting against ISIS. They have singlehandedly prevented ISIS from infiltrating Lebanon. The allegation that they are stronger than the government of Lebanon or the army of Lebanon is again ignorance. Hezbollah is a political party in Lebanon. It has ministers in the Lebanese government and elected members in parliament. It represents the Shia Muslim lebanese who make up the single largest religious community in Lebanon. Such a group is only terrorist if you follow American and Israeli view points that anyone who resist Israeli occupation is anti Semitic and a terrorist. Or if you're Sunni Wahhabi and you hate everything Shia! The same powers calling hezbollah a terrorist group for fighting Israel are the same powers that have caused hezbollah to be more powerful than the Lebanese army. The Lebanese army is under armed. The Nigerian army of recent has suffered the same fortune. The western powers refuse to sell and arm the Lebanese army to defend Lebanese territorial integrity, because no Arab country is allowed to be strong or stronger than Israel. The Lebanese army couldn't ward off the Israeli occupation of southern Lebanon. This led the citizens to carry arms and organized themselves into what became hezbollah. Self defense against occupation is not a crime. Fighting for the liberation of one's land against a foreign enemy is universally accepted human rights. Arm the Lebanese army, they refused. The Lebanese army is described as well trained but under equipped. Since the conventional army couldn't defend its people , a non conventional force came into being. And this force is an ally to both the Syrian army and the Lebanese army. Thus you see that hezbollah vehemently supported the election for Lebanon resident of two former Christian army chiefs by parliament. The Sunni led Arab countries have a long history of victimizing and persecuting their Shia populations. That has given Iran opportunity to meddle. Now take the instance of Kuwait. Kuwait has a population that is 40% Shia. Almost evenly divided between Shia and Sunni. The royal family is Sunni. But do you hear any Shia wahala in Kuwait? No. The royal family treats all citizens well. The Shia are not victimized in Kuwait through government, even though Kuwait is not a democratic government. And there's room for improvement in the polity. You don't victimize your citizens for being Shia or whatever, and then complain that they are resisting oppression. That is the problem in Saudi. A Wahhabi Sunni doesn't care if a Shia is pro-Iran or anti-Iran, insurgents or peaceful Angels. The Wahhabis are against the beliefs of Shia Islam and anyone who adheres to them. In Kuwait, Shia have mosques, schools and businesses and treated fairly well. So your fear mongering of hezbollah and Iran while you're justifying victimization of Nigerians, will only end up playing against your fears. It's counterproductive. We are a democracy and a secular state. Freedom of religious should not be compromised out of fear of anything or any excuse. |
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