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Please I Need Your Advice by schmoopiesecret(m): 2:10am On Jan 02, 2017
I want to purchase a 2005 / 2006 Nissan Quest. But a friend told me not to. He didn’t give me a reason good enough not to. Please house, I need your suggestions on this

Re: Please I Need Your Advice by Greene66: 5:29am On Jan 02, 2017
Private use?
Re: Please I Need Your Advice by nurey(m): 5:48am On Jan 02, 2017
Nissan is one car people don't understand and they really fear it. That's human being for you.

If the car is a fairly used with good history and has been checked by a qualified mechanic to be in a good working order then I did say go for it.

If it's Nigerian used and it's your first car, I did say stay away from it.
Re: Please I Need Your Advice by mayor2013: 7:00am On Jan 02, 2017
If foreign used go for it. If Nigerian used stay out would have been heavily brutalized. Had one came in to my workshop last year. The reconfiguration of wires she had would even be hard for nisssans themselves to comprehend
Re: Please I Need Your Advice by GAZZUZZ(m): 10:23am On Jan 02, 2017
evil
Re: Please I Need Your Advice by kingreign(m): 10:34am On Jan 02, 2017
schmoopiesecret:
I want to purchase a 2005 / 2006 Nissan Quest. But a friend told me not to. He didn’t give me a reason good enough not to. Please house, I need your suggestions on this

Better listen to his angelic advice. That car is evil on steroids made by the devil himself in USA to punish innocent ignorant folks.

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Re: Please I Need Your Advice by schmoopiesecret(m): 2:01pm On Jan 02, 2017
@Greene66 yes for private use
Re: Please I Need Your Advice by schmoopiesecret(m): 2:03pm On Jan 02, 2017
@nurey thanks a lot
Re: Please I Need Your Advice by schmoopiesecret(m): 2:04pm On Jan 02, 2017
mayor2013:
If foreign used go for it. If Nigerian used stay out would have been heavily brutalized. Had one came in to my workshop last year. The reconfiguration of wires she had would even be hard for nisssans themselves to comprehend

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Re: Please I Need Your Advice by Nobody: 10:41pm On Jan 02, 2017
GAZZUZZ:
evil
"He didn’t give me a reason good enough..."
Re: Please I Need Your Advice by Nobody: 1:54pm On Jan 03, 2017
schmoopiesecret:
I want to purchase a 2005 / 2006 Nissan Quest...Please house, I need your suggestions on this
The 2004-2009 Nissan Quest has a 3.5L VQ engine mated with two transmission types. One is 4-speed produced by JATCO (owned by Nissan) which was used on models between 2004 and 2006. The other is 5-speed produced by AISIN AW (partially owned by Toyota) which was used on models between 2004 and 2009. The Aisin AW transmission, known as RE5F22A, is also used in the Maxima (2004-2006) and Altima (2005-2006). Unfortunately, the valve body in this transmission appears to be underpowered to run high hp generated by the VQ engine. The 2004-2006 Maxima, with 265hp@5800rpm, became most infamous for this defect. The 2005-2006 Altima, with 260hp@5800rpm, became unpopular also though not as much as the Maxima. The Quest did not so much experience these transmission issues. Here’s why:
2004-2006: 240hp@5800rpm
2007-2008: 235hp@5800rpm
2009: 230hp@rpm.
The fact is Nissan got wise after 2006. They discontinued the use of the REF522A transmission both for the Maxima and Altima and progressively reduced the hp in the Quest. In sum, the transmission was more successful in the Quest for the obvious reason that it had a lower hp. If the Quest you are proposing to buy is 5-speed there’s a possibility (not certainty) of a valve body issue later. But then if it’s a high mileage car the issue may have been addressed by the/a previous owner.

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Re: Please I Need Your Advice by mili3kid(m): 3:23pm On Jan 03, 2017
Costee:

The 2004-2009 Nissan Quest has a 3.5L VQ engine mated with two transmission types. One is 4-speed produced by JATCO (owned by Nissan) which was used on models between 2004 and 2006. The other is 5-speed produced by AISIN AW (partially owned by Toyota) which was used on models between 2004 and 2009. The Aisin AW transmission, known as RE5F22A, is also used in the Maxima (2004-2006) and Altima (2005-2006). Unfortunately, the valve body in this transmission appears to be underpowered to run high hp generated by the VQ engine. The 2004-2006 Maxima, with 265hp@5800rpm, became most infamous for this defect. The 2005-2006 Altima, with 260hp@5800rpm, became unpopular also though not as much as the Maxima. The Quest did not so much experience these transmission issues. Here’s why:
2004-2006: 240hp@5800rpm
2007-2008: 235hp@5800rpm
2009: 230hp@rpm.
The fact is Nissan got wise after 2006. They discontinued the use of the REF522A transmission both for the Maxima and Altima and progressively reduced the hp in the Quest. In sum, the transmission was more successful in the Quest for the obvious reason that it had a lower hp. If the Quest you are proposing to buy is 5-speed there’s a possibility (not certainty) of a valve body issue later. But then if it’s a high mileage car the issue may have been addressed by the/a previous owner.
sounds like U do kno ur stuff.
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Re: Please I Need Your Advice by princemillla(m): 7:31pm On Jan 05, 2017
Nissan quest is a nice ride,starting form the exterior to the interior. Especially the full option SE trim... Which is the most advanced(usually equipped with the 5speed analyzed by Costee)., the sound system is superb.

The downside has already been analyse by Costee, but if you know ow to maintain a ride, it's good for the money.

NB : the car is not build for rugged life
Re: Please I Need Your Advice by Kashif(m): 7:34am On Jan 06, 2017
Costee:

The 2004-2009 Nissan Quest has a 3.5L VQ engine mated with two transmission types. One is 4-speed produced by JATCO (owned by Nissan) which was used on models between 2004 and 2006. The other is 5-speed produced by AISIN AW (partially owned by Toyota) which was used on models between 2004 and 2009. The Aisin AW transmission, known as RE5F22A, is also used in the Maxima (2004-2006) and Altima (2005-2006). Unfortunately, the valve body in this transmission appears to be underpowered to run high hp generated by the VQ engine. The 2004-2006 Maxima, with 265hp@5800rpm, became most infamous for this defect. The 2005-2006 Altima, with 260hp@5800rpm, became unpopular also though not as much as the Maxima. The Quest did not so much experience these transmission issues. Here’s why:
2004-2006: 240hp@5800rpm
2007-2008: 235hp@5800rpm
2009: 230hp@rpm.
The fact is Nissan got wise after 2006. They discontinued the use of the REF522A transmission both for the Maxima and Altima and progressively reduced the hp in the Quest. In sum, the transmission was more successful in the Quest for the obvious reason that it had a lower hp. If the Quest you are proposing to buy is 5-speed there’s a possibility (not certainty) of a valve body issue later. But then if it’s a high mileage car the issue may have been addressed by the/a previous owner.

Hearing this for the first time - valvebody mishandling torque in REF522A? How is that?
Re: Please I Need Your Advice by GAZZUZZ(m): 8:45am On Jan 06, 2017
schmoopiesecret I hope you are reading? When motor get long tory like dis you have to be careful.
Re: Please I Need Your Advice by Nobody: 9:10am On Jan 06, 2017
Kashif:


Hearing this for the first time - valvebody mishandling torque in REF522A? How is that?
There's always a first time cheesy. But seriously, I don't think it's coincidence that from 2006 when Nissan dumped the RE5F22A for their own CVT transmission, the hp in the three cars has been on corresponding increase. That in the 2017 Maxima has gone as high as 300hp@6400rpm; the last time there was a 3.5L Altima was in 2012, and it had 270hp@6000rpm; the 2016 Quest has 260hp@6000rpm. I just can't run away from the hunch that the VQ preferred to relate with the RE5F22A at some lower level.
PS. An updated version of the valve body was released from 2006.
Re: Please I Need Your Advice by Nobody: 9:14am On Jan 06, 2017
GAZZUZZ:
schmoopiesecret I hope you are reading? When motor get long tory like dis you have to be careful.
What exactly is the long story? When you advise someone to stay from something state an explicit reason.

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Re: Please I Need Your Advice by Kashif(m): 11:03am On Jan 06, 2017
Costee:

There's always a first time cheesy. But seriously, I don't think it's coincidence that from 2006 when Nissan dumped the RE5F22A for their own CVT transmission, the hp in the three cars has been on corresponding increase. That in the 2017 Maxima has gone as high as 300hp@6400rpm; the last time there was a 3.5L Altima was in 2012, and it had 270hp@6000rpm; the 2016 Quest has 260hp@6000rpm. I just can't run away from the hunch that the VQ preferred to relate with the RE5F22A at some lower level.
PS. An updated version of the valve body was released from 2006.

Granted that transmissions are built to handle specific torques, I dont see that happening in valvebody alone. What is usual is to have increased clutches, pinions, larger drums, pistons, etc. Yes, the RE5F22A may have been inadequate, but the corrsction will not be in the VB. That is the same transmission in Volvo XC90 of same year, though with different name. Volvo deployed advanced programming/strategy, making it possible for the Transmission to drive in different modes on its own. Its all about tuning and calibration.

Jatco's CVTs are not more reliable than ATs, as they are plaqued by pressure regulator bore wears. Traditionally, mate a high power engine to a wrong transmission, and have it smoked. That should be Powertrain 101.

I have seen vehicle burn rebuilt transmission again and again. Then it was suggested that the ECU calibration be checked. It was found that the tuning had been altered, unlocking more ponnies than the tranny was built for! My point is - it is better to tune the power down, than updating VB. The update in the VB must have been for something else, not power handling.

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Re: Please I Need Your Advice by Nobody: 11:22am On Jan 06, 2017
Kashif:


My point is - it is better to tune the power down, than updating VB. The update in the VB must have been for something else, not power handling.
Isn't this my original observation, which you queried? At any rate whatever defects there are , are usually manifested in valve body failure.
Re: Please I Need Your Advice by Kashif(m): 12:02pm On Jan 06, 2017
Costee:

Isn't this my original observation, which you queried? At any rate whatever defects there are , are usually manifested in valve body failure.

What were the complaints, and how was it determined to be caused by inadequate power handling capacity of the transmission? Any TSB? I will personally blacklist Nissan if you can prove this. It means they dont know what they are doing.

Not all transmission issues are VB related. First generation U660 found in 2008 up Toyota V6 had problems with its centre bearing. Honda suffered dydraulic feed pipe pullouts, etc.

VB modification alone cannot handle increased engine torque. You said they had to modify VB; that is what I cant wrap my head around.
Re: Please I Need Your Advice by Nobody: 12:20pm On Jan 06, 2017
Kashif:


What were the complaints, and how was it determined to be caused by inadequate power handling capacity of the transmission? Any TSB?
This I can confidently affirm: the primary complaints on the RE5F22A in the 2004-2006 Maxima relate to the valve body. Of course car manufacturers hardly disclose when they discover fundamental defects in their brands. They will only issue TSB on how to manage the problem.
Re: Please I Need Your Advice by schmoopiesecret(m): 1:46am On Jan 08, 2017
GAZZUZZ:
schmoopiesecret I hope you are reading? When motor get long tory like dis you have to be careful.

I tire o. Costee na Auto 401 he just lecture me. Scatter my brain
Re: Please I Need Your Advice by schmoopiesecret(m): 1:50am On Jan 08, 2017
All these English for Quest. I need a pen
Re: Please I Need Your Advice by schmoopiesecret(m): 1:53am On Jan 08, 2017
Costee:

The 2004-2009 Nissan Quest has a 3.5L VQ engine mated with two transmission types. One is 4-speed produced by JATCO (owned by Nissan) which was used on models between 2004 and 2006. The other is 5-speed produced by AISIN AW (partially owned by Toyota) which was used on models between 2004 and 2009. The Aisin AW transmission, known as RE5F22A, is also used in the Maxima (2004-2006) and Altima (2005-2006). Unfortunately, the valve body in this transmission appears to be underpowered to run high hp generated by the VQ engine. The 2004-2006 Maxima, with 265hp@5800rpm, became most infamous for this defect. The 2005-2006 Altima, with 260hp@5800rpm, became unpopular also though not as much as the Maxima. The Quest did not so much experience these transmission issues. Here’s why:
2004-2006: 240hp@5800rpm
2007-2008: 235hp@5800rpm
2009: 230hp@rpm.
The fact is Nissan got wise after 2006. They discontinued the use of the REF522A transmission both for the Maxima and Altima and progressively reduced the hp in the Quest. In sum, the transmission was more successful in the Quest for the obvious reason that it had a lower hp. If the Quest you are proposing to buy is 5-speed there’s a possibility (not certainty) of a valve body issue later. But then if it’s a high mileage car the issue may have been addressed by the/a previous owner.


Are you saying that the 4-speed produced by JATCO is better and secondly, how will I know it's a 4-speed
Re: Please I Need Your Advice by Nobody: 8:04am On Jan 08, 2017
schmoopiesecret:



Are you saying that the 4-speed produced by JATCO is better and secondly, how will I know it's a 4-speed
So you finally understood the lecture. The term better is relative here depending on the state of the car you're proposing to acquire. I was only trying to draw attention to a likely hitch in the 5-speed. Check the label on the driver's side door pillar or the engine room for the type of transmission. If it's RE4F04B it's 4-speed, if RE5F22A it's 5-speed.




Re: Please I Need Your Advice by schmoopiesecret(m): 12:25am On Jan 10, 2017
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