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Re: Lagos State Govt Demolishes Oshodi Market (photos) by potent5(m): 5:49am On Jan 08, 2017
Very soon people who trade in stalls in some markets around town will stop traveling 'home' during festivities, especially Xmas. This govt usually sees the period of mass exodus for Xmas as the time to destroy shops and markets. This same thing happened in the first week of last year at Oshodi (under bridge) market.
Nothing is wrong with development, but the govt should stop destroying markets when people are away; do it while they are around. Is the govt afraid of market men and women? The govt is sending negative vibes robbing it of credibility and making it look oppressive if it cannot face ordinary market men and women and exercise state power. It's like stabbing someone in the back, giving the impression of that these acts are not 'best intentioned'.
It is normal for govt to take over any part of its territory for public purposes while at the same time it cushions the effect of such takeover (compensation). or is the issue of compensation the problem?
Re: Lagos State Govt Demolishes Oshodi Market (photos) by zoneboy: 6:00am On Jan 08, 2017
Moneyyy:
Why are they jealous of the Igbos?

So Dem Neva throw u inside lagoon. Aw u take escape
Re: Lagos State Govt Demolishes Oshodi Market (photos) by chibuzorAbia: 6:37am On Jan 08, 2017
Unimaginable123:
Anywhere in no man's land that igbos are successfully doing business, that ondo man from Ilaje goes there to destroy it because we supported his opponent.
He can't do nothing to the igbos, whom the gods have blessed. The Jews of Israel suffered similar predicament for centuries in different parts of the world, but see where God has placed them today.

If we are truly blessed why are we Igbos not living and thriving in Igboland? Why do we have to go begging in Lagos. Lagos will always be Yoruba land.

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Re: Lagos State Govt Demolishes Oshodi Market (photos) by danidee10(m): 6:42am On Jan 08, 2017
I don't want to quote anyone but they are a lot of stupid people here.
Re: Lagos State Govt Demolishes Oshodi Market (photos) by chibuzorAbia: 6:54am On Jan 08, 2017
redsun:


Lagos without bursting and hurstling of the so-called outsiders will be left with trampy area boys with no economic viability. However,it is very important for a city to be constructively structured, irrespective of how many get hurt in doing. And happening in a country where government does not exist for the citizens,it is a double tragedy.

Redsun, you and ya people should carry your hurstle and bustle back to Igbo land. Nobody invited you to YORUBA land.

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Re: Lagos State Govt Demolishes Oshodi Market (photos) by Nobody: 7:03am On Jan 08, 2017
This 'XXL' guy just keeps going around in circles nioooo. Reading his/her comments, u will see it is d same thing all tru, hiaaAaa!

Mmsen and co, una dey try with una correct explanation for this 'xxl' o!!!

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Re: Lagos State Govt Demolishes Oshodi Market (photos) by Trustworthiness: 7:20am On Jan 08, 2017
Moneyyy:
Why are they jealous of the Igbos?

Who should be jealous of dirty people, who turn every place they live or do business a dirty environment.

Alaba and Ladipo Market should be the next places that need reform.
Re: Lagos State Govt Demolishes Oshodi Market (photos) by Beesluv: 7:39am On Jan 08, 2017
uzolexis:


the sad part is that, if they build a modern market, they make the stalls/shops so expensive and unaffordable for these small businesses.

Exactly, may God help this nation

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Re: Lagos State Govt Demolishes Oshodi Market (photos) by WebclickNG: 7:41am On Jan 08, 2017
MrRichy:
why should it be by January (hardest month of the year)

I Pity the traders whose only source of livelihood comes from the market.. embarassed
I think January is the best time to demolish it because most of the traders have sold their goods during December. Also January is a low business period. Between the traders are already aware.
Re: Lagos State Govt Demolishes Oshodi Market (photos) by Laid2001: 7:41am On Jan 08, 2017
You surely dont know what you are talking.
Lagos IGR was less than a billion naira per month during Tinubu. Tinubu put down the foundation for increased IGR during his second term, increasing it to more than 10 billion per month. Fashola continued in his stead and hit 20 billion per month and Ambole has already taken on their steps and it keeps increasing. Now the Lagos monthly IGR is higher than yearly IGR of some states. During GEJ tenure, Delta, Rivers, and Akwa Ibom (due to very high Federal allocation & 13% derivation) used to have similar yearly budget amount as Lagos in the neighbourhood of 350billion to 400billion per anum. Yet mostly nothing to show, other than few roads. Check this years budget of these states, Lagos has dwarfed all of them!

Do you still think the Lagos governors are mediocre like your governors!!!!



XXLDICK:

Lagos has the highest IGR not because of their governors.
It has always being that way since Lagos was the capital of Nigeria. Before Tinubu ever dreamt of being a governor

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Re: Lagos State Govt Demolishes Oshodi Market (photos) by iukpe: 8:45am On Jan 08, 2017
The government in River state cannot move the menace of Trans-Amadi slaughter market till date. Rivers State does not have the will to remove nuisance market places, stop street trading, remove bushes from the city, clean up sand on the streets, use of highway or street pavements as refuse dumps etc.
The Government in Lagos are forcing development every year. Congrats Lagos.

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Re: Lagos State Govt Demolishes Oshodi Market (photos) by 3Ceagle(m): 8:49am On Jan 08, 2017
chibuzorAbia:


If we are truly blessed why are we Igbos not living and thriving in Igboland? Why do we have to go begging in Lagos. Lagos will always be Yoruba land.

That is the question many have failed to answer. Even though Lagos was once capital of Nigeria and has developed by the contributions of all ethnic group especially the easterners, it still belong to westerners and nobody can change that. Since you claim to develop Lagos what stops you from developing the towns and cities in the east. Many business men here in Lagos have many properties in Lagos but can't boast of any other ones in the east except at their villages. My only problems with the demolition, is timing and under compensation of shop owners.
Re: Lagos State Govt Demolishes Oshodi Market (photos) by 3Ceagle(m): 9:19am On Jan 08, 2017
iukpe:
The government in River state cannot move the menace of Trans-Amadi slaughter market till date. Rivers State does not have the will to remove nuisance market places, stop street trading, remove bushes from the city, clean up sand on the streets, use of highway or street pavements as refuse dumps etc.
The Government in Lagos are forcing development every year. Congrats Lagos.

Any government that cannot stand it ground on the issue of development or any other positive issue is not fit to be there. Sometimes government need to force the people to move for new residential and commercial areas to start up. But we have seen most times that no adequate alternative is made, and when made, they are sometimes too expensive for the average trader. If the government in Rivers and other SS state are sensible they should put pressure on the FG with regards to utilization and expansion of the sea and air ports in the area to boost economic activities. Secondly is to provide the enabling environment for business to strive. Put down laws and empower law enforcement to deal seriously with all those cults and tout disturbing the creation and sustainability of businesses. Avoid double taxation and extortion by village heads using the youths.
Re: Lagos State Govt Demolishes Oshodi Market (photos) by mmsen: 9:35am On Jan 08, 2017
XXLDICK:

Lagos has abandoned it's public schools

I can still remember the quality of Lagos public schools as at the 80s and 90s. Now they are nothing to write home about.
The only good schools in Lagos are private schools.

Ever since Lagos stopped being the capital, almost all development are private sector driven.

Private sectors build their companies in Lagos because of localization, proximity to supply and demand. No west Africa state has more population density than Lagos.

Pin point one major completed project by the Lagos state government since 1999.

Lagos smallest state with the highest IGR has more bad roads than Kano which is over 10 times bigger than Lagos.

Speaking about conservative religion, if you become a northern governor, there is absolutely nothing you can do about it in a democratic setting.


Lagos may or may not have more bad roads than Kano but Lagos has more rooads, more good roads and more cars than Kano. Which means that Lagos has more economic activity than Kano - again how do you explain how Lagos with it's tiny land mass is so much more productive than Kano? Do you know that Kano's IGR is only just bigger than that of Cross River? A state with no oil and a small population. How has that happened?

What is the problem with private sector involvement in infrastructure? Why is private sector in education a bad thing? So long as the state government provides a framework for them to operate and ensures that standards are met there should be no issue.

Businesses go where they can make a profit, where there is an enabling environment. Kano too has a big population - why are businesses not flocking there as they do to Lagos? Ado Bayero mall still largely unoccupied after two years meanwhile malls are opening and filling up at pace all over Lagos, Onitsha and Calabar.

As to your comment about not being able to do anything about religion in a democratic setting - that is completely untrue. You can ensure that young people are exposed to the beauty of the world around them by way of a fulfilling and meaningful education. By education I mean more than just sitting in a classroom regurgitating whatever the teacher says (which is not an education but indoctrination) but to come to understand the world that we live and to understand and value the individual. That entails providing means of learning - libraries, internet access, field trips for young people but also recreational activities that do not revolve around scraping one's head on carpet. Maybe that would be a better use of money than throwing money away on trips to the Arabian desert from which nothing good has ever come.
Re: Lagos State Govt Demolishes Oshodi Market (photos) by XXLDICK(m): 9:58am On Jan 08, 2017
Laid2001:
You surely dont know what you are talking.
Lagos IGR was less than a billion naira per month during Tinubu. Tinubu put down the foundation for increased IGR during his second term, increasing it to more than 10 billion per month. Fashola continued in his stead and hit 20 billion per month and Ambole has already taken on their steps and it keeps increasing. Now the Lagos monthly IGR is higher than yearly IGR of some states. During GEJ tenure, Delta, Rivers, and Akwa Ibom (due to very high Federal allocation & 13% derivation) used to have similar yearly budget amount as Lagos in the neighbourhood of 350billion to 400billion per anum. Yet mostly nothing to show, other than few roads. Check this years budget of these states, Lagos has dwarfed all of them!

Do you still think the Lagos governors are mediocre like your governors!!!!



Increase in IGR as a result of a weakened currency. Compare the actual value then and now in dollars and tell the difference.

Like I said Lagos can only be rivaled by south south in terms of bad governance.

Those states have nothing to show for it because private investors prefer Lagos state.
Re: Lagos State Govt Demolishes Oshodi Market (photos) by XXLDICK(m): 10:04am On Jan 08, 2017
mmsen:


Lagos may or may not have more bad roads than Kano but Lagos has more rooads, more good roads and more cars than Kano. Which means that Lagos has more economic activity than Kano - again how do you explain how Lagos with it's tiny land mass is so much more productive than Kano? Do you know that Kano's IGR is only just bigger than that of Cross River? A state with no oil and a small population. How has that happened?

What is the problem with private sector involvement in infrastructure? Why is private sector in education a bad thing? So long as the state government provides a framework for them to operate and ensures that standards are met there should be no issue.

Businesses go where they can make a profit, where there is an enabling environment. Kano too has a big population - why are businesses not flocking there as they do to Lagos? Ado Bayero mall still largely unoccupied after two years meanwhile malls are opening and filling up at pace all over Lagos, Onitsha and Calabar.

As to your comment about not being able to do anything about religion in a democratic setting - that is completely untrue. You can ensure that young people are exposed to the beauty of the world around them by way of a fulfilling and meaningful education. By education I mean more than just sitting in a classroom regurgitating whatever the teacher says (which is not an education but indoctrination) but to come to understand the world that we live and to understand and value the individual. That entails providing means of learning - libraries, internet access, field trips for young people but also recreational activities that do not revolve around scrapping one's head on carpet. Maybe that would be a better use of money than throwing money away on trips to the Arabian desert from which nothing good has ever come.
Lagos has more roads than Kano Damn!!! You can't be serious. Do you think kano is a dessert

Only if you try and visit kano, you will understand what I'm saying. You will see evidence of good governance but lack of private sector participation.

Kano has a large population but a very low density compared to Lagos. That's why most businesses prefer Lagos.
Re: Lagos State Govt Demolishes Oshodi Market (photos) by Nobody: 10:11am On Jan 08, 2017
davodyguy:
It is well

When development will take place, many things will give way.
Fashola said the same thing without fufilling them.
Re: Lagos State Govt Demolishes Oshodi Market (photos) by mmsen: 10:18am On Jan 08, 2017
XXLDICK:

Lagos has more roads than Kano Damn!!! You can't be serious. Do you think kano is a dessert

Only if you try and visit kano, you will understand what I'm saying. You will see evidence of good governance but lack of private sector participation.

Kano has a large population but a very low density compared to Lagos. That's why most businesses prefer Lagos.

Kano may be populated but if the economic activity is as low as it appears to be then the likelihood that it has more roads than Lagos is absurd. For what purpose are these roads built and who is paying for them to be built in a state with a miserly IGR?

You advise me to visit Kano - my advice is for you to visit Lagos (and stay on the island). Then go to Calabar and Uyo - there you will see good governance without the startling poverty that has become accepted in the North.
Re: Lagos State Govt Demolishes Oshodi Market (photos) by Unimaginable123: 10:25am On Jan 08, 2017
chibuzorAbia:


If we are truly blessed why are we Igbos not living and thriving in Igboland? Why do we have to go begging in Lagos. Lagos will always be Yoruba land.
Igbos are thriving the world over. Have u been to d East? Enugu, Onitsha, Aba, Owerri, Abakiliki, Umuahia, Nnewi and counting. All thriving cities
Re: Lagos State Govt Demolishes Oshodi Market (photos) by XXLDICK(m): 10:41am On Jan 08, 2017
mmsen:


Kano may be populated but if the economic activity is as low as it appears to be then the likelihood that it has more roads than Lagos is absurd. For what purpose are these roads built and who is paying for them to be built in a state with a miserly IGR?

You advise me to visit Kano - my advice is for you to visit Lagos (and stay on the island). Then go to Calabar and Uyo - there you will see good governance without that the startling poverty that has become accepted in the North.
Calabar and Uyo I'm talking about the whole state.
Save Calabar and Uyo, the rest of the state is nothing to write home about. And their present governors are no where near their predecessors in good governance.

IGR isn't a sole determinant of good governance.
Low tax rate, low tax enforcement... result in low IGR.

In Lagos, everything you do, you must pay tax.
Whenever my Dad's goods arrive, he pays 20,000 to offload it in the warehouse, the only presently tolled road in Nigeria is in Lagos, transporters pay tax for loading passengers, daily tax, picking passengers from a busstop, symbols, advert on cars... The tax rate in Lagos is very high. You even pay tax for having a television or radio in your shop.

I live in Lagos and visit The island Often.
Re: Lagos State Govt Demolishes Oshodi Market (photos) by mmsen: 10:55am On Jan 08, 2017
XXLDICK:

Calabar and Uyo I'm talking about the whole state.
Save Calabar and Uyo, the rest of the state is nothing to write home about. And their present governors are no where near their predecessors in good governance.

IGR isn't a sole determinant of good governance.
Low tax rate, low tax enforcement... result in low IGR.

In Lagos, everything you do, you must pay tax.
Whenever my Dad's goods arrive, he pays 20,000 to offload it in the warehouse, the only presently tolled road in Nigeria is in Lagos, transporters pay tax for loading passengers, daily tax, picking passengers from a busstop, symbols, advert on cars... The tax rate in Lagos is very high. You even pay tax for having a television or radio in your shop.

I live in Lagos and visit The island Often.


Low tax enforcement means that the state most likely isn't present in every day affairs like it should be. Which means that there is a lack of oversight by the state which probably means that there are a lot of people sat in the state secretariat earning money whilst doing very little.

I choose Uyo and Calabar because I cannot speak to Kano state as a whole but those cities are better than Kano. Even if we extend the comparisons to the entire states both trump Kano in every socio-economic index - education, health, wealth. By what criteria is Kano state better?
Re: Lagos State Govt Demolishes Oshodi Market (photos) by mmsen: 11:00am On Jan 08, 2017
iukpe:
The government in River state cannot move the menace of Trans-Amadi slaughter market till date. Rivers State does not have the will to remove nuisance market places, stop street trading, remove bushes from the city, clean up sand on the streets, use of highway or street pavements as refuse dumps etc.
The Government in Lagos are forcing development every year. Congrats Lagos.

Port Harcourt really is a disgrace.

Amaechi wasted/stole so much money and before him Odili.
Re: Lagos State Govt Demolishes Oshodi Market (photos) by TheMascot(m): 12:40pm On Jan 08, 2017
XXLDICK:

Those you mentioned have things to show for the debt, but you can't say the same about Lagos.
bruh...can any other state be compared to Lagos in terms of infrastructure? pls u are becoming annoying.. and I must say..it's because you are an Igbo man and have hatred for the Yorubas that's why you are saying all these crap
Re: Lagos State Govt Demolishes Oshodi Market (photos) by XXLDICK(m): 1:49pm On Jan 08, 2017
TheMascot:
bruh...can any other state be compared to Lagos in terms of infrastructure? pls u are becoming annoying.. and I must say..it's because you are an Igbo man and have hatred for the Yorubas that's why you are saying all these crap
Check my previous posts, I don't dabble into tribal rants.

Funny, I'm Igbo, yes. But in Nigeria, the Yorubas are my favorite. I prefer them to my kinsmen. I didn't grow up in the east.

As someone vast in economics I don't just look at achievements alone, I consider the resources at its disposal and compare it to the achievement. That's why despite the recession, I still claim Buhari is better than GEJ.

Most infrastructures in Lagos where built by the FG when Lagos was the capital. The rest were built by private individuals.

Only a hand few were built by the state governors.
Not enough to be juxtaposed with huge FG allocations, IGR and debt in the smallest state in Nigeria.

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Re: Lagos State Govt Demolishes Oshodi Market (photos) by shams040(m): 3:32pm On Jan 08, 2017
Town planners a working. We need a smart city with model markets.

Gd work Ambode
Re: Lagos State Govt Demolishes Oshodi Market (photos) by Nobody: 3:49pm On Jan 08, 2017
Unimaginable123:
Anywhere in no man's land that igbos are successfully doing business, that ondo man from Ilaje goes there to destroy it because we supported his opponent.
He can't do nothing to the igbos, whom the gods have blessed. The Jews of Israel suffered similar predicament for centuries in different parts of the world, but see where God has placed them today.
Ibos and victim mentality. Who has that Zuma pic.
Re: Lagos State Govt Demolishes Oshodi Market (photos) by Nobody: 3:49pm On Jan 08, 2017
XXLDICK:

Check my previous posts, I don't dabble into tribal rants.

Funny, I'm Igbo, yes. But in Nigeria, the Yorubas are my favorite. I prefer them to my kinsmen. I didn't grow up in the east.

As someone vast in economics I don't just look at achievements alone, I consider the resources at its disposal and compare it to the achievement. That's why despite the recession, I still claim Buhari is better than GEJ.

Most infrastructures in Lagos where built by the FG when Lagos was the capital. The rest were built by private individuals.

Only a hand few were built by the state governors.
Not enough to be juxtaposed with huge FG allocations, IGR and debt in the smallest state in Nigeria.
U are right, but don't forget that Lagos has a very large population.
Re: Lagos State Govt Demolishes Oshodi Market (photos) by Nobody: 3:51pm On Jan 08, 2017
mmsen:


Port Harcourt really is a disgrace.

Amaechi wasted/stole so much money and before him Odili.
If u say Port Harcourt is a disgrace, what will u say of delta.
Re: Lagos State Govt Demolishes Oshodi Market (photos) by mmsen: 7:14pm On Jan 08, 2017
charliboy654:

If u say Port Harcourt is a disgrace, what will u say of delta.

Asaba started from a much lower base level but if you use Uyo as a barometer they are both pitiful.
Re: Lagos State Govt Demolishes Oshodi Market (photos) by Nobody: 9:05pm On Jan 08, 2017
mmsen:


Asaba started from a much lower base level but if you use Uyo as a barometer they are both pitiful.
What abt warri the oil city. Which use to have like a thousand oil company b4 but now notin to write home abt.
Re: Lagos State Govt Demolishes Oshodi Market (photos) by mmsen: 9:22pm On Jan 08, 2017
charliboy654:

What abt warri the oil city. Which use to have like a thousand oil company b4 but now notin to write home abt.

It's a little bit better than Asaba but it's still a disgrace on a similar level to Port Harcourt.
Re: Lagos State Govt Demolishes Oshodi Market (photos) by Nobody: 10:56pm On Jan 08, 2017
mmsen:


It's a little bit better than Asaba but it's still a disgrace on a similar level to Port Harcourt.
Lol OK, that's my city o.

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