YouthsPC0:
Before you comment on this thread answer this question

1. which Muslim leader will be affected by this law with the exception of Elzakzaky which the government of Sheik Buhari wants to destroy


2. When did Buhari become the Holy spirit who decides who should lead the church and for how long

3. Does this laws strips Christians of the opportunity to determine how they wish to be led

4. How many imams will yield to any law of succession in their mosques contrary to Qur'anic prescriptions


When I told people that Osinbajo is useless when it comes to protecting the church and defending the its rights many did not believe , Southern Kaduna Christians who were massacred over 800 of them in one night is a clear example

May God intervene in Nigeria In Jesus Name

Weeps

May you live long bro.... This questions are very clear for one to understand

Zamfaran:
This is trash.
I don't like the dullard but if he starts taxing these bunch of scammers then I will give him my vote come 2019

A scammer will die of hunger if the people would open their eyes n stop being gullible for some yahoo pastors to feed fat on. that being said,God ll definitely disappoint Buhari so much that he (Buhari) will regret his life.

The law though not new but its a two edged sword meant to regulate church activities/influence (politics is partly involved) and check excesses of church leaders vis-à-vis their extravagant lifestyles.

On the long run Christianity is the loser because there's a silent move to subjugate christians either some believe it or not. Influential christian leaders who has been hobnobbing with politicians got caught unawares due to their selfishness and greed cos they failed to do the 'needful' before this law eventually became effective.

How many times have these soul robbers spoken out against killing of christians in the north? Aside few bold ones who hasn't been 'eating' from aso rock largesse of either pecuniary gains or appointment / elections

Until these idiotic influential christians/leaders wake up from their slumber of living large, luxurious bling bling light hugging life styles they wont realise the dangers they pose to their followers who erroneously thought they have shepherds but who are nothing but self serving wolves.

And for those christians who will only say God will fight their cause well I like to remind them too that heaven helps those who helped themselves.

This OP i don't know but as God liveth all ur godly expactations this year will not be cut short...I have been saying this that man is an ANTI-CHRIST he has come to work contary to the gospel together with the short man form a state that start with K

Has anybody heard of The Financial Regulatory Council of Nigeria? Did you hear of a court case where the churches lost to the council? Are you aware that other bodies are adhering to the code, banks inclusive? Check out these and then think again.....

Armaggedon:
pls remove "Nigerian Christians" in your first statement and replace it with "yoruba pastors"

bros make dem no say person dey tribalist.

but I feel you.

YouthsPC0:
Systematic Stripping Of The Church Under Buhari

By Favour Afolabi

As you go to church this morning, and as a CHRISTIAN, do meditate on my next line of thoughts.

It was the CHRISTIANS that largely produced this new government with ‘their body language’ and now ‘The Most Senior CHRISTIAN LEADERS’ in Nigeria [including Pastor Tunde Bakare, who carried the placards around the nation for the emergence of this new government] are being asked, via an OBNOXIOUS Law that was inserted through the backdoor into the Nigerian Constitution to STEP DOWN from leading the brethren in their churches in Nigeria!

When you ask Pastor Adeboye, Bishop Oyedepo, Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor, Pastor Kumuyi, Pastor Chris Oyakhilome, Pastors Adefarasin, the elder and the younger ones, Bishop Okonkwo, Pastor Ashimolowo, Pastor Adeyemi, etc – all who have led their ministries for ‘the stipulated 20 years’ from leading their churches, the obvious question is “What is left of the leadership of the church in Nigeria?”

When you enact a law that says “a church leader cannot hand over the leadership of his ministry to a family member’, you ask yourself – so what becomes of how so many of such examples occurred in the Bible? And what becomes of the story of the Hagins? And many others?

The elitists Christians in Nigeria have always applauded as the church is stripped in Nigeria – they were happy when ‘Christian businessmen were being stripped of the leadership of the banking industry’ – they didn’t mind as scores of churches were being burnt and hundreds of Christians killed in the aftermath of the 2011 elections pogrom; they have been silent as another round hundreds of Christians are being killed in Northern Nigeria; they ask critical questions of why a governor listened to security reports to remove students from class in the largely non-Christian environs but rejected such advice by keeping the largely christian community Chibok in their classes leading to the abduction of the Chibok Girls – the elites in the Nigerian church movement are very good at speaking ‘very big English’ – they are always super intellectuals on all subjects but obviously ‘lack critical wisdom of the place of the church in Nation States.’

When you ask Pastor Adeboye, Bishop Oyedepo, Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor, Pastor Kumuyi, Pastor Chris Oyakhilome, Pastors Adefarasin, the elder and the younger ones, Bishop Okonkwo, Pastor Ashimolowo, Pastor Adeyemi, etc – all who have led their ministries for ‘the stipulated 20 years’ from leading their churches, the obvious question is “What is left of the leadership of the church in Nigeria?”

They love to quote examples of how things are done around the world BUT when it comes to standing up for the CHURCH in Nigeria, they soon become quiet and when they are loud begin to even justify such atrocities against the church in Nigeria.

It is very important to ask the question – “where were all the hashtags as this ere being passed in Nigeria?” No, our Christian brethren were still very busy, chasing on Twitter “the missing Billions” – the monies that would never be transferred to their bank accounts when recovered – for which they will get no contracts awarded to them. Of course, it is also these Christians that major “on the opulence of Pastors” – that seems to be their one goal in life – to making sure their Pastors become paupers – what a life ambition to have as a Christian?

Of course, Politicians, in Nigeria, have always “believed that the CHURCH was growing with too much influence” – they have always been afraid of the CROWDS we pull together, for free, which they, have ‘to pay stolen monies to get’; they have always been afraid of our Prosperity, which, they see, we get without toil, as they do; and they have always wondered how they can ‘pocket’ the church; and our brethren have stood by, applauding them as they do such things because they are the ones that provide the online materials for the ridiculing of the Church in Nigeria – well, to these ones, I say, it is time for you to brace up for the leadership of the Church in Nigeria – you have very big shoes to fill so you had better begin ‘to fast and pray’, away from your ‘DSTV Sessions.’

To the larger Christians in Nigeria, I say “Congratulations!”

I thank the Holy Spirit for always being my WITNESS on these matters – HE knows that I have never found myself on the side of such display of cheap populism in Nigeria.

Favour Afolabi is a political commentator who runs fbablogs.com in his spare time; and owns a real estate brokerage services company. He tweets via @favourafolabi.

http://www.signalng.com/op-unedited-systematic-stripping-church-buhari-favour-afolabi/

lol

So what if some Churches don't comply.

This one did not do his research o, "My people perish for lack of knowledge", saith the lord

Who has the sole responsibility of making laws in Nigeria?

Is Buhari now a lawmaker?

Why blaming This government for a law that was made during the previous regime and nobody/organization opposed the passage of the law.

We should stop giving dog a bad name simply because we want to hang the dog.

I try as much as possible to restrain myself from playing the religious or ethnic card, but events of the past few days calls for concern.

If christian leaders are made to submit to the laws of Nigeria as a sovereign nation, how come a good number of Muslims in Nigeria are against the gender equality bill and its provisions?
The reason I'm familiar with is that it is against Islam therefore cannot be observed by Muslim faithful. The sultan vehemently spoke against it, and that Muslims will never submit to such law because it is against their believe. This to say the least is an assault on the sovereignty of Nigeria and her capacity to enact laws in order to safeguard the rights of all Nigerians.

I honestly think christians are conceding too much, so do the traditionalists.
If these our so called men of God have not been greedy in their disposition, perhaps this double standards would not occur.

National laws should not be made to target certain groups.
Finally, the sovereignty of Nigeria is absolute and comprehensive. Therefore, all who are bound by the territory Nigeria, is expected to submit to and respect the laws of the country, whether they are against our believes, as long as they serve and promote the greater good.

Enough of religion induced laws. Religion is suppose to be a private affair, therefore should not be promoted by the state

TheFreeOne:
The law though not new but its a two edged sword meant to regulate church activities/influence (politics is partly involved) and check excesses of church leaders vis-à-vis their extravagant lifestyles.

On the long run Christianity is the loser because there's a silent move to subjugate christians either some believe it or not. Influential christian leaders who has been hobnobbing with politicians got caught unawares due to their selfishness and greed cos they failed to do the 'needful' before this law eventually became effective.

How many times have these soul robbers spoken out against killing of christians in the north? Aside few bold ones who hasn't been 'eating' from aso rock largesse of either pecuniary gains or appointment / elections

Until these idiotic influential christians/leaders wake up from their slumber of living large, luxurious bling bling light hugging life styles they wont realise the dangers they pose to their followers who erroneously thought they have shepherds but who are nothing but self serving wolves.

And for those christians who will only say God will fight their cause well I like to remind them too that heaven helps those who helped themselves.

Christianity used to have a God that fought his battles, why do we need an Afolabi to remind us or some other influential christians?

The reason why the church grew larger than life was because Nigeria released a generation of unintelligent folks who patronised those warehouses, the same unintelligence that stopped Afolabi from challenging that law in court in 2011 when we had a christian President.

The bible made it clear that only levites are authorised to feed from Tithe and these levites must not inherit the church, so what is wrong with the law?

In the UK you have no right to invest church donations unlike here yet the likes of Afolabi saw nothing wrong with that.

In Germany, the govt collect church tax unlike here yet the Almighty Jehovah didn't fall from heaven, simple rotational church leadership is giving you heart attack, seems like our law makers understand the bible better than the so called god of men.

Not to worry, choppings is over!! go get a proper tax paying job.

ReubenE:
I try as much as possible to restrain myself from playing the religious or ethnic card, but events of the past few days calls for concern.

If christian leaders are made to submit to the laws of Nigeria as a sovereign nation, how come a good number of Muslims in Nigeria are against the gender equality bill and its provisions?
The reason I'm familiar with is that it is against Islam therefore cannot be observed by Muslim faithful. The sultan vehemently spoke against it, and that Muslims will never submit to such law because it is against their believe. This to say the least is an assault on the sovereignty of Nigeria and her capacity to enact laws in order to safeguard the rights of all Nigerians.

I honestly think christians are conceding too much, so do the traditionalists.
If these our so called men of God have not been greedy in their disposition, perhaps this double standards would not occur.

National laws should not be made to target certain groups.
Finally, the sovereignty of Nigeria is absolute and comprehensive. Therefore, all who are bound by the territory Nigeria, is expected to submit to and respect the laws of the country, whether they are against our believes, as long as they serve and promote the greater good.

Enough of religion induced laws. Religion is suppose to be a private affair, therefore should not be promoted by the state

Rotational leadership is it against the tenets of christianity?

the writer of Gus trash is very very stupid, extreme stupid, this law was passed under Gej and also it affect the Muslim, NGOs too

ALTERNATEID:


When was the law establishing the FRCN passed?

The problem with people like you and the author of this trash is crass ignorance born out of hatred for the president. Buhari has nothing to to with the law that stipulates that leaders of registered NGO's cannot lead the organisation for more than 20 years, the law was passed before he became president.

When Soludo was CBN governor, he pushed for a similar legislation that prohibits managing directors of banks from staying in office for more than 10 years. It is not a big deal or targeted at any religion like myopic minds like you guys want us to believe.

I know you are a Yoruba Muslim,.... and I understand you but woe unto Yoruba Christian that are acting as a catalyst to this jihad Northern Muslims are releasing gradually to Christian.... time will tell, make my word , for me and and my family we are safe here in SS/SE

Why all this sentiments over a corporate governance law.

Lets face it can you compare our churches to mosques?

Our churches are pure business entities, the branches are profit centres, its all about money, there is no faith based activity there.

How many Imams of mosques do you see flying private jets, living in posh mansions going overseas for holiday or surrounding themselves with body guards.

How many imams do you see driving in 20 car convoys with police siren blaring?

If you re the governor or minister going to a mosque , there is no preferential treatment, you will take off your shoes before you enter mosque.

Buhari's action is a wake up call, for the church to go back to what it was commissioned to do to save lost souls with the message of salvation, and not to do cash collection on behalf of pastors.

Pastors operate like emperors conning and deceiving members for money.

They should start taxing churches ASAP, they re earning way too much cash.

the Muslim, orthodox and d NGOs are complying to a law only a penticostal church refuse to comply

easy:
Who has the sole responsibility of making laws in Nigeria?

Is Buhari now a lawmaker?

Why blaming This government for a law that was made during the previous regime and nobody/organization opposed the passage of the law.

We should stop giving dog a bad name simply because we want to hang the dog.

Dont mind those unintelligent members of the public, the same unintelligence drove them to patronise those ware houses called churches.
A christian President signed a religious law then an unintelligent member of the public puts it on Buhari because he is a Muslim. I magine their retarded thought process.

This law was the major reason Jonathan was voted against in the SW, they thought Osibanjo will influence it when he gets there while the case was still in court.

This writeup is rubbish. OP, educate yourself about the law and don't be parochial.

GOD BLESS U BIG

When was the law establishing the FRCN passed?

The problem with people like you and the author of this trash is crass ignorance born out of hatred for the president. Buhari has nothing to to with the law that stipulates that leaders of registered NGO's cannot lead the organisation for more than 20 years, the law was passed before he became president.

When Soludo was CBN governor, he pushed for a similar legislation that prohibits managing directors of banks from staying in office for more than 10 years. It is not a big deal or targeted at any religion like myopic minds like you guys want us to believe. [/quote]

YouthsPC0:
Systematic Stripping Of The Church Under Buhari

By Favour Afolabi

As you go to church this morning, and as a CHRISTIAN, do meditate on my next line of thoughts.

It was the CHRISTIANS that largely produced this new government with ‘their body language’ and now ‘The Most Senior CHRISTIAN LEADERS’ in Nigeria [including Pastor Tunde Bakare, who carried the placards around the nation for the emergence of this new government] are being asked, via an OBNOXIOUS Law that was inserted through the backdoor into the Nigerian Constitution to STEP DOWN from leading the brethren in their churches in Nigeria!

When you ask Pastor Adeboye, Bishop Oyedepo, Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor, Pastor Kumuyi, Pastor Chris Oyakhilome, Pastors Adefarasin, the elder and the younger ones, Bishop Okonkwo, Pastor Ashimolowo, Pastor Adeyemi, etc – all who have led their ministries for ‘the stipulated 20 years’ from leading their churches, the obvious question is “What is left of the leadership of the church in Nigeria?”

When you enact a law that says “a church leader cannot hand over the leadership of his ministry to a family member’, you ask yourself – so what becomes of how so many of such examples occurred in the Bible? And what becomes of the story of the Hagins? And many others?

The elitists Christians in Nigeria have always applauded as the church is stripped in Nigeria – they were happy when ‘Christian businessmen were being stripped of the leadership of the banking industry’ – they didn’t mind as scores of churches were being burnt and hundreds of Christians killed in the aftermath of the 2011 elections pogrom; they have been silent as another round hundreds of Christians are being killed in Northern Nigeria; they ask critical questions of why a governor listened to security reports to remove students from class in the largely non-Christian environs but rejected such advice by keeping the largely christian community Chibok in their classes leading to the abduction of the Chibok Girls – the elites in the Nigerian church movement are very good at speaking ‘very big English’ – they are always super intellectuals on all subjects but obviously ‘lack critical wisdom of the place of the church in Nation States.’

When you ask Pastor Adeboye, Bishop Oyedepo, Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor, Pastor Kumuyi, Pastor Chris Oyakhilome, Pastors Adefarasin, the elder and the younger ones, Bishop Okonkwo, Pastor Ashimolowo, Pastor Adeyemi, etc – all who have led their ministries for ‘the stipulated 20 years’ from leading their churches, the obvious question is “What is left of the leadership of the church in Nigeria?”

They love to quote examples of how things are done around the world BUT when it comes to standing up for the CHURCH in Nigeria, they soon become quiet and when they are loud begin to even justify such atrocities against the church in Nigeria.

It is very important to ask the question – “where were all the hashtags as this ere being passed in Nigeria?” No, our Christian brethren were still very busy, chasing on Twitter “the missing Billions” – the monies that would never be transferred to their bank accounts when recovered – for which they will get no contracts awarded to them. Of course, it is also these Christians that major “on the opulence of Pastors” – that seems to be their one goal in life – to making sure their Pastors become paupers – what a life ambition to have as a Christian?

Of course, Politicians, in Nigeria, have always “believed that the CHURCH was growing with too much influence” – they have always been afraid of the CROWDS we pull together, for free, which they, have ‘to pay stolen monies to get’; they have always been afraid of our Prosperity, which, they see, we get without toil, as they do; and they have always wondered how they can ‘pocket’ the church; and our brethren have stood by, applauding them as they do such things because they are the ones that provide the online materials for the ridiculing of the Church in Nigeria – well, to these ones, I say, it is time for you to brace up for the leadership of the Church in Nigeria – you have very big shoes to fill so you had better begin ‘to fast and pray’, away from your ‘DSTV Sessions.’

To the larger Christians in Nigeria, I say “Congratulations!”

I thank the Holy Spirit for always being my WITNESS on these matters – HE knows that I have never found myself on the side of such display of cheap populism in Nigeria.

Favour Afolabi is a political commentator who runs fbablogs.com in his spare time; and owns a real estate brokerage services company. He tweets via @favourafolabi.

http://www.signalng.com/op-unedited-systematic-stripping-church-buhari-favour-afolabi/

Well written Afolabi... Keep it up and God bless you.

Jacko1:
Such news as sad as it is

Is also relieving

When 2015 elections abi dat buhari vs jonathan ish

Afonjas wer united to ensure jonathan neva rules... Because ebele isbin his name

And he is not an inch ibo


Am so happy the turn of events... Buhari deal with afonjas well well

But till tomorrow that backstabbing.... Traitor blood will forever run in selfish afonjas

Lol. You clowns ignorance is appalling. This law was passed long b4 Buhari to power..
Even at that, Adeboye just did his thing without any Government influence. U yoots should use the senses God gave u free of charge wisely

donnie:


Well written Afolabi... Keep it up and God bless you.

Keep writing rubbish up? Why not do a little research and confirm when the law was passed. Smh for u and the author. The source is not something i am surprised about. Belongs to breaking times, biafratimes, authority and the likes

KINGwax007:
people like you are the reason for discords amongst religious entities and ethnicity. All these lies you carefully crafted for your dumbassed followers without brain.

First, the law is for every religious body and NGOs. It is even long overdue.

Second, dollar was sold for 197NGN for Muslim pilgrims and 160NGN for Christian pilgrims.

https://www.thecable.ng/presidency-no-discrimination-christian-pilgrims-also-bought-dollar-for-n160

You didn't cry at that time...

You are the useless one here. The law is ling overdue. You people are thieves. You register churches and mosques as NGOs but would collect tithes amd donations of the poor to build and empire that they can't afford, and the same the you would hand over to your generations as money making ventures-

Go and kill yourself.

Four your fucking info, I am a Christian but not an idiot like your followers. You thieving lots!

As true as your words are, the ending was too much especially from a Christian nau...

princejayboss:




May you live long bro.... This questions are very clear for one to understand

U are blessing a post marred with extreme stupidity. First the law was passed since the last adminstration, churches took the body to court and lost out. Now what is the business of Buhari in this matter? It sounds extremely foolish to even mention Buhari's name in this. Is Buhari even a law maker? This law have been passed for over 3 years, but highly ignorant yoots like u will rather share false hood.

And I just have a question for you to answer, when was this law passed into law and under whose administration was the law enacted? I think your answer will go a long way in reducing bigotry and find out critical points before you type nor comment.


Before you comment on this thread answer this question

1. which Muslim leader will be affected by this law with the exception of Elzakzaky which the government of Sheik Buhari wants to destroy


2. When did Buhari become the Holy spirit who decides who should lead the church and for how long

3. Does this laws strips Christians of the opportunity to determine how they wish to be led

4. How many imams will yield to any law of succession in their mosques contrary to Qur'anic prescriptions


When I told people that Osinbajo is useless when it comes to protecting the church and defending the its rights many did not believe , Southern Kaduna Christians who were massacred over 800 of them in one night is a clear example

May God intervene in Nigeria In Jesus Name

Weeps
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Mr man go and sleep, do u know how many people those men of God have render help to, should d cum and start tellin u those people the have help? Please dont act as if sum1 is responsible for ur miserable and unfortunate life of urs

PHIPEX:
One thing I know about this law is that it'll reduce the incentive to open new churches as we currently see. I blame the extravagant life style of our pastors for this law. How can you have multiple jets and refuse to pay tax. If they had used these money to help the poor, the masses would have come in their defence in times like this.

Everyone is indifferent because most Nigerian Christians are hungry and whether these pastors stay or leave doesn't affect their bank account

Continue to weep. I think youths need serious mentoring all over. I wonder if we research before posting all these nonsense online. Because if we do, you would realised that the law has nothing to do with this administration. And Adeboye calling it quit was his own way of respecting the law. When your leader leads right,but you bigots followers refused to have sense. Continue to be gullible.

YouthsPC0:
Before you comment on this thread answer this question

1. which Muslim leader will be affected by this law with the exception of Elzakzaky which the government of Sheik Buhari wants to destroy


2. When did Buhari become the Holy spirit who decides who should lead the church and for how long

3. Does this laws strips Christians of the opportunity to determine how they wish to be led

4. How many imams will yield to any law of succession in their mosques contrary to Qur'anic prescriptions


When I told people that Osinbajo is useless when it comes to protecting the church and defending the its rights many did not believe , Southern Kaduna Christians who were massacred over 800 of them in one night is a clear example

May God intervene in Nigeria In Jesus Name

Weeps

See the earlier thread here https://www.nairaland.com/3561517/favour-afolabi-systematic-stripping-church

I Used to be skeptical about buhari, but if all this power drunk egotistic scammers hand over power, I will sure vote for him in 2019.

ALTERNATEID:


When was the law establishing the FRCN passed?

The problem with people like you and the author of this trash is crass ignorance born out of hatred for the president. Buhari has nothing to to with the law that stipulates that leaders of registered NGO's cannot lead the organisation for more than 20 years, the law was passed before he became president.

Am surprised by d number of like. Download and read the act before u speak or like. The law passed in 2007 was to create the FRCN not the regulation it self. The FRCN was empowered to make regulation for the corporate bodies and these regulations hv bn under drafting since then and finalized and release in 2016. www.financialreportingcouncil.gov.ng/news-center/frc-releases-draft-national-code-of-corporate-governance/

It is like CBN coming up with regulation for banks in 2016 and we attribute it to when CBN was created.

udoh2k:


Am surprised by d number of like. Download and read the act before u speak or like. The law passed in 2007 was to create the FRCN not the regulation it self. The FRCN was empowered to make regulation for the corporate bodies and these regulations hv bn under drafting since then and finalized and release in 2016. www.financialreportingcouncil.gov.ng/news-center/frc-releases-draft-national-code-of-corporate-governance/

It is like CBN coming up with regulation for banks in 2016 and we attribute it to when CBN was created.

“The code has been on naturally, right from (ex-President Goodluck) Jonathan’s time and this has been over four years. When the code was being done, we engaged all the stakeholders and their presentations formed part of what was in the code at the end of the day.

“The only people that took the matter to court were the churches and they lost. It was on the day they lost that our legal adviser said ‘okay, we could go ahead and release the code and that if we don’t release this code, other bodies will go to court to challenge it’.....Jim Obazee, executive Secretary, FRCN.