Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / New
Stats: 3,168,933 members, 7,872,996 topics. Date: Thursday, 27 June 2024 at 06:28 AM

FG Begins Rehabilitation Work At Kaduna Airport Despite Senate’s Opposition - Travel (3) - Nairaland

Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Travel / FG Begins Rehabilitation Work At Kaduna Airport Despite Senate’s Opposition (18588 Views)

"Kaduna Airport Toilets Are The Cleanest" - Kadaria Ahmed / Lagos Gov.Complete Rehabilitation Work On Maryland Independence Tunnel (picture) / Kaduna Airport Is Now Ready For 24-hour Operations. See Its New Looks (2) (3) (4)

(1) (2) (3) (4) (Reply) (Go Down)

Re: FG Begins Rehabilitation Work At Kaduna Airport Despite Senate’s Opposition by opribo(m): 7:12pm On Jan 13, 2017
mcquin:
My guy you are drifting. If the airport to be upgraded is Enugu, will you complain. Everything shouldn't be in Lagos or Abuja. Know when to criticise government.

Helloooo, what was the reason for the closure, can you remember? it was to correct the failing runway at NAIA, good. Nobody is quarreling with that. Now you say you want to divert Abuja passengers to Kaduna and to do that you will invest a huge cost to do so and we ask why when we have a nearby international airport and you say NO it has to be KD because that is the way it has always been.

That is the crux of the matter sir, it has got nothing to do with Enugu and nobody is suggesting it here but you. Lagos came into the picture because it is already an international airport and safe so all government need to do in Lagos if find a safe means of transporting stranded passengers to their destinations. BTW I dont think any sensible passenger will fly to your KD most of them will plan their flights to Lagos or PH as the case may be so your upgrade is another waste of tax payers funds that should be used to pay salaries and upgrade other pressing infrastructure.
Re: FG Begins Rehabilitation Work At Kaduna Airport Despite Senate’s Opposition by dvee2: 7:37pm On Jan 13, 2017
opribo:


Is Lagos not far safer than that your Kaduna you guys want to go and risk life of innocent Nigerians.

How old are you? grin

So if I am flying from Edo to Abuja, the alternative airport to land is Lagos not Kaduna according to you. So when I land in Lagos, I will now swim to Abuja abi? I Taya for some Nigerians I swear, and they will be arguing with real conviction over something they know little about. Hahahaha!

2 Likes

Re: FG Begins Rehabilitation Work At Kaduna Airport Despite Senate’s Opposition by mcquin(m): 7:40pm On Jan 13, 2017
opribo:


Helloooo, what was the reason for the closure, can you remember? it was to correct the failing runway at NAIA, good. Nobody is quarreling with that. Now you say you want to divert Abuja passengers to Kaduna and to do that you will invest a huge cost to do so and we ask why when we have a nearby international airport and you say NO it has to be KD because that is the way it has always been.

That is the crux of the matter sir, it has got nothing to do with Enugu and nobody is suggesting it here but you. Lagos came into the picture because it is already an international airport and safe so all government need to do in Lagos if find a safe means of transporting stranded passengers to their destinations. BTW I dont think any sensible passenger will fly to your KD most of them will plan their flights to Lagos or PH as the case may be so your upgrade is another waste of tax payers funds that should be used to pay salaries and upgrade other pressing infrastructure.
Minna or KD government has its choice and patriotism demands you support it. I as a lawyer make choice that is best for my client cause I have certain knowledge they don't. Government has information the rest of us don't have and if after research or survey it finds KD a better option, we have no choice. Nigerians just love complaining about everything. They will be the same set to complain tomorrow that everything infrastructure is either Lagos or Abuja, why not agree with government for once?

1 Like

Re: FG Begins Rehabilitation Work At Kaduna Airport Despite Senate’s Opposition by satowind(m): 7:56pm On Jan 13, 2017
BushWickBill:

After you will go and brag to your friends while drunk that you made a post on Nairaland criticizing Buhari.

This fo0l will tell us he has some form of formal education, whereas he should have put his time and effort into being a mai guard.




u don't know what due process is so I don't brand you zoo man
Re: FG Begins Rehabilitation Work At Kaduna Airport Despite Senate’s Opposition by satowind(m): 7:56pm On Jan 13, 2017
lustychima:
after the kaduna airport rehabilitation,

Ur brain is next
zoo man that don't know what due process is
Re: FG Begins Rehabilitation Work At Kaduna Airport Despite Senate’s Opposition by BushWickBill: 7:58pm On Jan 13, 2017
satowind:
u don't know what due process is so I don't brand you zoo man

IPOB charlatan
You know nothing about anything.
You've already given yourself away as a half bred nit wit.

Now go change your diapers and keep quiet when grown folks are talking.

If you had any shame you would be embarrassed by that thing you posted that calls into question your claims of any kind of formal education.

1 Like

Re: FG Begins Rehabilitation Work At Kaduna Airport Despite Senate’s Opposition by satowind(m): 10:00pm On Jan 13, 2017
BushWickBill:


IPOB charlatan
You know nothing about anything.
You've already given yourself away as a half bred nit wit.

Now go change your diapers and keep quiet when grown folks are talking.

If you had any shame you would be embarrassed by that thing you posted that calls into question your claims of any kind of formal education.
you don't have sense just like your boss. No respect for the rule of law. A country whose president disobey the law is a jungle. Zoo man
Re: FG Begins Rehabilitation Work At Kaduna Airport Despite Senate’s Opposition by juman(m): 12:01am On Jan 14, 2017
There is only one airport in abuja.
Re: FG Begins Rehabilitation Work At Kaduna Airport Despite Senate’s Opposition by Cletus77(m): 12:44am On Jan 14, 2017
Pure dictatorship!
Re: FG Begins Rehabilitation Work At Kaduna Airport Despite Senate’s Opposition by bart10: 12:53am On Jan 14, 2017
This one na airport or motor park undecided
Re: FG Begins Rehabilitation Work At Kaduna Airport Despite Senate’s Opposition by adanny01(m): 1:42am On Jan 14, 2017
I just wonder, instead of all this wahala, cant the FG build a brand new runway? Why would the airport have only one runway that the whole airport has to be shut for maintenance?
Re: FG Begins Rehabilitation Work At Kaduna Airport Despite Senate’s Opposition by adanny01(m): 2:24am On Jan 14, 2017
opribo:


I dont have a problem sir, my worry is that why waste tax payers money when you can save tremendous cost by upgrading the Minna airport that is already built to international status, deploy airport shuttle buses with security personnel from Minna into Abuja is doable and cost effective.

The security situation in Kaduna is too much to subject innocent air travellers to such risk. Ofcourse you and I know that our security forces are yet to destroy boko which bubu confirmed so why add more problems. Dont forget the herdsmen are there, the Southern Kaduna problems are also there thats enough for our security personnel in that area to cope with. This is certainly not a popular decision it is biased and based on selfish sentiments if you look at it critically. If professionals had been allowed to do their work without executive body language inputs they would never have opted for Kaduna. Minna or at best Lagos would have been a sensible thing to do.

Bros, this matter is a logical one and Minna cannot be an alternate to Abuja ahead of kaduna for these reasons:

1. In range of 1-10, 10 being excellent and 1 being poor, the road from Kaduna to Abj is 7 while Minna-Abj is 3 (this means Kaduna rd is easily repairable while Minna will gulp a lot).

2. kad-Abj is completely dual carriage while Minna-Abj is a single carriage (this reduces the risk of accidents and increase free flow of traffic removing bottle necks and hold ups.

3. Kaduna town has a modern transport alternative with the new rail while Minna has none (those passengers who cannot afford to charter taxi or have drivers pick them up have a very decent alternative to abj).

4. Some departures/arrivals especially international flights have passengers with take off/final destination as wide as the entire north west and North east states which would have almost the same or less road travel time than from Minna. Only Nassarawa, Benue and Taraba bound travelers will have increased road travel time from Kaduna as against the entire NW and NE states to or from Minna. It takes 3hrs from Abj to Jos and takes the same 3hrs from Kaduna to Jos. Those going to NE states via Jos from kaduna will have no change in distance, as those going to NW states will have 2hrs off their trips.

5. kaduna already has local flights to lagos by Arik, Aero and Azman while Minna has none.

My own observation is that a brand new additional runway should have been planned for Abj not total closure.

1 Like

Re: FG Begins Rehabilitation Work At Kaduna Airport Despite Senate’s Opposition by davidif: 3:41am On Jan 14, 2017
DONSMITH123:
The rehabilitation of the new terminal building of the Kaduna Airport which will serve as alternative for both local and international passengers has begun.

This development follows the closure of the Abuja international airport for six weeks, starting from March 8, 2017.

The roads linking the Kaduna airport to the city are currently under construction.


On Thursday, the Minister of State for Aviation, Mr Hadi Sirika and Minister of Transportation, Mr Rotimi Amaechi, appeared before the Senate to explain the reason for the planned closure of the Nnamdi Azikwe International Airport and why Kaduna is the best alternative.

Sirika, insisted on the closure of the Abuja airport which was constructed in 1982 as the runway has exceeded its lifespan of 14 years.

The Senate is vehemently opposing the closure of the Airport, saying the diversion of flights to Kaduna will endanger lives of Nigerians.

Cc: lalasticlala, Mynd44

http://dailypost.ng/2017/01/13/abuja-airport-fg-begins-rehabilitation-work-kaduna-airport-despite-senates-opposition-closure/

Thisbis not the job of the Fed govt for goodness sakes.
Re: FG Begins Rehabilitation Work At Kaduna Airport Despite Senate’s Opposition by Jaguntemmy(m): 9:06am On Jan 14, 2017
Icecomrade:

Atleast Buhari can divert some federal fund to Kaduna.

El Rufai is the smartest of all Brain Dead APC governors.

Senate can't do anything about this one.

This has been planned since 2015.

1 Like

Re: FG Begins Rehabilitation Work At Kaduna Airport Despite Senate’s Opposition by Nobody: 9:19am On Jan 14, 2017
DONSMITH123:
The rehabilitation of the new terminal building of the Kaduna Airport which will serve as alternative for both local and international passengers has begun.

This development follows the closure of the Abuja international airport for six weeks, starting from March 8, 2017.

The roads linking the Kaduna airport to the city are currently under construction.


On Thursday, the Minister of State for Aviation, Mr Hadi Sirika and Minister of Transportation, Mr Rotimi Amaechi, appeared before the Senate to explain the reason for the planned closure of the Nnamdi Azikwe International Airport and why Kaduna is the best alternative.

Sirika, insisted on the closure of the Abuja airport which was constructed in 1982 as the runway has exceeded its lifespan of 14 years.

The Senate is vehemently opposing the closure of the Airport, saying the diversion of flights to Kaduna will endanger lives of Nigerians.

Cc: lalasticlala, Mynd44

http://dailypost.ng/2017/01/13/abuja-airport-fg-begins-rehabilitation-work-kaduna-airport-despite-senates-opposition-closure/

Built in 1982 with lifespan of 14 years. This is 2017, 35years after! Bloooood of Abraham!

1 Like

Re: FG Begins Rehabilitation Work At Kaduna Airport Despite Senate’s Opposition by adanny01(m): 9:19am On Jan 14, 2017
davidif:


Thisbis not the job of the Fed govt for goodness sakes.

What is the job of the federal government when Abj Kaduna rd is a federal road? Even the western bypass to the airport that is in terrible condition is a federal road.

Do you want the local governments to repair the road or what do you mean precisely?

1 Like

Re: FG Begins Rehabilitation Work At Kaduna Airport Despite Senate’s Opposition by davidif: 7:42pm On Jan 14, 2017
adanny01:


What is the job of the federal government when Abj Kaduna rd is a federal road? Even the western bypass to the airport that is in terrible condition is a federal road.

Do you want the local governments to repair the road or what do you mean precisely?

I meant its not the job of the FG to rehabilitate the airport, that should be the responsibility of the local govt. This is goe things work in a lot of local govts.
Re: FG Begins Rehabilitation Work At Kaduna Airport Despite Senate’s Opposition by adanny01(m): 8:54pm On Jan 14, 2017
davidif:


I meant its not the job of the FG to rehabilitate the airport, that should be the responsibility of the local govt. This is goe things work in a lot of local govts.

Airports are also the responsibility of the FG that is why they have ministry of Transport while only few states have that ministry. Not all states must have FG owned airports so those states the FG deem un necessary have to provide for themselves if they so desire. Thats why for eg PH airport serves Bayelsa and Akwa Ibom while Calabar serves Akwa Ibom too. It is not viable for FG to build one in Akwa Ibom so they had to build their own.

1 Like

Re: FG Begins Rehabilitation Work At Kaduna Airport Despite Senate’s Opposition by davidif: 9:44pm On Jan 14, 2017
adanny01:


Airports are also the responsibility of the FG that is why they have ministry of Transport while only few states have that ministry. Not all states must have FG owned airports so those states the FG deem un necessary have to provide for themselves if they so desire. Thats why for eg PH airport serves Bayelsa and Akwa Ibom while Calabar serves Akwa Ibom too. It is not viable for FG to build one in Akwa Ibom so they had to build their own.

That's what I am saying bro. Airports should not be the responsibility of the fed govt. It should be left to the local govt. This is one of the reasons things don't work in naija because the fed govt does almost everything. It provides revenue for States, it runs schools and hospitals, electricity etc. This in not how things should work.

First of all, there should be no allocation anymore states and local govts should be able to stand on there feet and take care of themselves.
They should raise there own revenue through taxes and provide there own services to the people like roads, electricity, schools (and there school systems), emergency services while the states monitor them.
There should also have there own police with the the peiple voting in there own police commissioners and state and district judges. This is how things work in several developed countries unlike in Naija where the fed govt almost runs everything.
If Buhari truly wanted change this is what he should have done along with gettin rid of the states and breaking the country into several autonomic regions under the oversight of the FG like Spain so that they can fend for themselves instead of expecting everything from the FG.
The cuurent Nigerian model is not set up to succeed and the more we persevere with this the more things remain the same.
Re: FG Begins Rehabilitation Work At Kaduna Airport Despite Senate’s Opposition by adanny01(m): 2:25pm On Jan 15, 2017
davidif:


That's what I am saying bro. Airports should not be the responsibility of the fed govt. It should be left to the local govt. This is one of the reasons things don't work in naija because the fed govt does almost everything. It provides revenue for States, it runs schools and hospitals, electricity etc. This in not how things should work.

First of all, there should be no allocation anymore states and local govts should be able to stand on there feet and take care of themselves.
They should raise there own revenue through taxes and provide there own services to the people like roads, electricity, schools (and there school systems), emergency services while the states monitor them.
There should also have there own police with the the peiple voting in there own police commissioners and state and district judges. This is how things work in several developed countries unlike in Naija where the fed govt almost runs everything.
If Buhari truly wanted change this is what he should have done along with gettin rid of the states and breaking the country into several autonomic regions under the oversight of the FG like Spain so that they can fend for themselves instead of expecting everything from the FG.
The cuurent Nigerian model is not set up to succeed and the more we persevere with this the more things remain the same.

Bro, even the US you are inferring has states and lower levels of governance. There is no doubt that states and LG are as important as the FG but our laws are weak and have several loopholes around them. LG used to have autonomy, what happened all of a sudden LGs became an appendix to state governments. The structure of Nigeria is OK, laws are archaic and weak. The legislature and the Judiciary are the real reson Nigeria will not get meaningful growth. Who makes the law? Legislators. Who presides over the law? Judiciary. If those 2 are weak, the FG, States and LG will always be misruled by the executive and that is what we are experiencing. Without proper laws and independence, state police agitation will end up in the wrong hands giving governors too much powers.

Back to the main issues, Air transportation can never be the responsibility of states because it is wholly either an interstate or international transport. In fact any form of social service that governments most provide that cuts across states is no longer a state responsibility. Providing water is a state responsibility because water networks must not cut across states. All roads linking 2 states or more automatically becomes a federal road. All rails cut across states. A sea port not only serves the state it is located but the entire country so it becomes a federal responsibility. Tertiary, Secondary and primary education must not cut across states so responsibilities are shared between FG, states and LG resp. Every country in the world has an electricity grid. Thats because not all states have the necessary factors for producing electricity. Factors of electricity production are hydro, gas, coal, nuclear, wind and sun. Coal is not as effective as gas, nuclear, we are not there yet while the last 2 are expensive and not very reliable. Basically, most countries rely on hydro and gas which cannot be done in every state while electricity can be transmitted across states, so it becomes a federal responsibility. Agriculture is a major social responsibility for provision of food security and foreign exchange, all tiers of government are equally responsible here.Of course external security belongs to the FG but internal security could be shared. However, It needs a very high level of interstate coordination to be able to split the federal policing we have to states as it will make it difficult for law abiding citizens to move with goods and services across states which is why it has remained a federal responsibility. As it is now, state governments provide logistics and other services to police in the state for efffectiveness. The list goes on and on.

My point is, restructuring is not our problem but effectiveness which only the law and law enforcement can provide.

1 Like

Re: FG Begins Rehabilitation Work At Kaduna Airport Despite Senate’s Opposition by davidif: 4:44pm On Jan 15, 2017
adanny01:


Bro, even the US you are inferring has states and lower levels of governance. There is no doubt that states and LG are as important as the FG but our laws are weak and have several loopholes around them. LG used to have autonomy, what happened all of a sudden LGs became an appendix to state governments. The structure of Nigeria is OK, laws are archaic and weak. The legislature and the Judiciary are the real reson Nigeria will not get meaningful growth. Who makes the law? Legislators. Who presides over the law? Judiciary. If those 2 are weak, the FG, States and LG will always be misruled by the executive and that is what we are experiencing. Without proper laws and independence, state police agitation will end up in the wrong hands giving governors too much powers.

Back to the main issues, Air transportation can never be the responsibility of states because it is wholly either an interstate or international transport. In fact any form of social service that governments most provide that cuts across states is no longer a state responsibility. Providing water is a state responsibility because water networks must not cut across states. All roads linking 2 states or more automatically becomes a federal road. All rails cut across states. A sea port not only serves the state it is located but the entire country so it becomes a federal responsibility. Tertiary, Secondary and primary education must not cut across states so responsibilities are shared between FG, states and LG resp. Every country in the world has an electricity grid. Thats because not all states have the necessary factors for producing electricity. Factors of electricity production are hydro, gas, coal, nuclear, wind and sun. Coal is not as effective as gas, nuclear, we are not there yet while the last 2 are expensive and not very reliable. Basically, most countries rely on hydro and gas which cannot be done in every state while electricity can be transmitted across states, so it becomes a federal responsibility. Agriculture is a major social responsibility for provision of food security and foreign exchange, all tiers of government are equally responsible here.Of course external security belongs to the FG but internal security could be shared. However, It needs a very high level of interstate coordination to be able to split the federal policing we have to states as it will make it difficult for law abiding citizens to move with goods and services across states which is why it has remained a federal responsibility. As it is now, state governments provide logistics and other services to police in the state for efffectiveness. The list goes on and on.

My point is, restructuring is not our problem but effectiveness which only the law and law enforcement can provide.

First of all, restructuring the Kaduna airport should go to the local govt that the airport is in. That's how things work in other countries. You build your own airport and you maintain it irrespective of if air travel cuts across state lines.

Secondly, in a lot advanced nations powergeneration is done at a local level. The local govts should contract the building of a power plant to a utility company. It could be coal, hydro or wind. If one local govt cant afford it then they can band together with few other neighboring LGA's to invest in one blthroufh the bond markwt. Having a national power grid in a country of around 180 million is complete and utter foolishness as far as I am concerned and it is becoming clearer by the day. Its sad that the fed govts are still flogging the dead horse and expecting a different result.

Finally, if you think the Nigerian structure is OK, then ask yourself why almost all of them need allocation to even exist and then ask yourself what happens if you cut off that lifeline. Let's see how many of those states that won't fold.

The stupidity of the state and local govt officials being paid by the fed govt is stunning. What's even as stupid is that the majority of the revenue of the States come from the fed govt and don't even get me started on the local govts.

This country has been living beyond its means for so long and now that the country is in reckoning everyone is running helter skelter. As bad as this recession has been. It has exposed the weakness of the current system. You can't be using a significant part of you paying members of the govt from the fed level down to the local level.
Re: FG Begins Rehabilitation Work At Kaduna Airport Despite Senate’s Opposition by Khez: 5:20pm On Jan 15, 2017
They just played a fast one on us now ....lol

subjecting people to that devilish kaduna road that kills people like Satan

using FG cash to build and upgrade kaduna to open it up for bigger hub.

telling no other alternative than to land in KD and embark on a 2hrs road trip to abuja ,to be robbed by that hopeless kaduna by pass road.

Confirm politics in fully play.
Re: FG Begins Rehabilitation Work At Kaduna Airport Despite Senate’s Opposition by adanny01(m): 11:50pm On Jan 15, 2017
davidif:


First of all, restructuring the Kaduna airport should go to the local govt that the airport is in. That's how things work in other countries. You build your own airport and you maintain it irrespective of if air travel cuts across state lines.

Secondly, in a lot advanced nations powergeneration is done at a local level. The local govts should contract the building of a power plant to a utility company. It could be coal, hydro or wind. If one local govt cant afford it then they can band together with few other neighboring LGA's to invest in one blthroufh the bond markwt. Having a national power grid in a country of around 180 million is complete and utter foolishness as far as I am concerned and it is becoming clearer by the day. Its sad that the fed govts are still flogging the dead horse and expecting a different result.

Finally, if you think the Nigerian structure is OK, then ask yourself why almost all of them need allocation to even exist and then ask yourself what happens if you cut off that lifeline. Let's see how many of those states that won't fold.

The stupidity of the state and local govt officials being paid by the fed govt is stunning. What's even as stupid is that the majority of the revenue of the States come from the fed govt and don't even get me started on the local govts.

This country has been living beyond its means for so long and now that the country is in reckoning everyone is running helter skelter. As bad as this recession has been. It has exposed the weakness of the current system. You can't be using a significant part of you paying members of the govt from the fed level down to the local level.

From the look of things we will never finish this if one does not drop it.

i dont think you should be saying what you are saying if you know a little about governance especially n Nigeria.

No local government has the funds to build or maintain an airport in Nigeria. No local government can build an power generating station in Nigeria. 80% of electricity generation the the US is by the private sector while a huge part of the 20% balance is by the US federal government. Do you even know what a power grid is? Below is a picture of US power grid, are the Americans, Indians, Chinese, Europeans and the whole world all foolish by having power grids? Pls read some more.

If the repairs of Shiroro dam cast N2.4billion, how much do you think the construction of such a dam cost? How long do you think it will take a local govt earning N10million/month to build and maintain as if they dont pay salaries or attend to other responsibilities. last year 2016, a state like Nassarawa had a budget of only N77billion for a whole year. How long do you think it will take the state to build a N20billion power plant?

Let me stop here and encourage you to embrace reality and stop comparing Nigerian states and LG to developed countries.

Re: FG Begins Rehabilitation Work At Kaduna Airport Despite Senate’s Opposition by davidif: 7:31am On Jan 16, 2017
adanny01:


From the look of things we will never finish this if one does not drop it.

i dont think you should be saying what you are saying if you know a little about governance especially n Nigeria.

No local government has the funds to build or maintain an airport in Nigeria. No local government can build an power generating station in Nigeria. 80% of electricity generation the the US is by the private sector while a huge part of the 20% balance is by the US federal government. Do you even know what a power grid is? Below is a picture of US power grid, are the Americans, Indians, Chinese, Europeans and the whole world all foolish by having power grids? Pls read some more.

If the repairs of Shiroro dam cast N2.4billion, how much do you think the construction of such a dam cost? How long do you think it will take a local govt earning N10million/month to build and maintain as if they dont pay salaries or attend to other responsibilities. last year 2016, a state like Nassarawa had a budget of only N77billion for a whole year. How long do you think it will take the state to build a N20billion power plant?

Let me stop here and encourage you to embrace reality and stop comparing Nigerian states and LG to developed countries.

Dude, there is something you call the bond market. That's how local govts finance projects in developed countries. No one expects them to have all the money up front.
Re: FG Begins Rehabilitation Work At Kaduna Airport Despite Senate’s Opposition by adanny01(m): 12:03am On Jan 17, 2017
davidif:


Dude, there is something you call the bond market. That's how local govts finance projects in developed countries. No one expects them to have all the money up front.

Am also sure in the developed world there are mortgage finance for homes and vehicles, Student loans and many more but non is available in Nigeria. It looks like you are still dreaming.
Re: FG Begins Rehabilitation Work At Kaduna Airport Despite Senate’s Opposition by davidif: 6:48am On Jan 17, 2017
adanny01:


Am also sure in the developed world there are mortgage finance for homes and vehicles, Student loans and many more but non is available in Nigeria. It looks like you are still dreaming.

Dude, do you know what a bond is? Americans have been using it from Independence in the 1700's. You want to tell me that local govts can't issue debt securities to raise money for public works in the 21st century?!?!?
Re: FG Begins Rehabilitation Work At Kaduna Airport Despite Senate’s Opposition by adanny01(m): 10:12am On Jan 17, 2017
davidif:


Dude, do you know what a bond is? Americans have been using it from Independence in the 1700's. You want to tell me that local govts can't issue debt securities to raise money for public works in the 21st century?!?!?

Last time i checked, you dont need to pay cash upfront for a brand new car or house in America, thats because mortgages/loans are available by banks and foreclosures/repossessions are possible. In Nigeria, you need cash upfront to get a house or a car, getting a loan from a bank in Nigeria is a sour deal for the medium and low income earners while the rich take billions in loans they never repay. A director in the state civil service for example may earn N120-300k monthly depending on the ministry, a mortgage on a 3 bedroom bungalow will be upwards of N10million, no bank will be willing to keep open a mortgage for 13-34years if 20% of the salary is the amortization plan. Banks will usually like to close such loans in les than 5 years, to achieve that one has to earn atleast a million Naira to afford to get a mortgage or loan in Nigeria and stilll be comfortable. The cost of real estate in Nigeria is so high and personal income so low that the loan system in Nigeria cannot work. Some of this things are the root cause for corruption plaguing Nigeria.

This illustration is to paint a small picture of how things are. As it is now, local governments only pay salaries of staff with great stress, no one will buy a bond from a local government because they have no means to pay.

In Nigeria, only the FG issue bonds. No one, i repeat, no one will buy bonds issued by a local governments, not even states.

For the last time, Nigeria is not America! Neither are they on the same level and you are beginning to sound like you've never been to Nigeria.
Re: FG Begins Rehabilitation Work At Kaduna Airport Despite Senate’s Opposition by davidif: 6:31am On Jan 18, 2017
adanny01:


Last time i checked, you dont need to pay cash upfront for a brand new car or house in America, thats because mortgages/loans are available by banks and foreclosures/repossessions are possible. In Nigeria, you need cash upfront to get a house or a car, getting a loan from a bank in Nigeria is a sour deal for the medium and low income earners while the rich take billions in loans they never repay. A director in the state civil service for example may earn N120-300k monthly depending on the ministry, a mortgage on a 3 bedroom bungalow will be upwards of N10million, no bank will be willing to keep open a mortgage for 13-34years if 20% of the salary is the amortization plan. Banks will usually like to close such loans in les than 5 years, to achieve that one has to earn atleast a million Naira to afford to get a mortgage or loan in Nigeria and stilll be comfortable. The cost of real estate in Nigeria is so high and personal income so low that the loan system in Nigeria cannot work. Some of this things are the root cause for corruption plaguing Nigeria.

This illustration is to paint a small picture of how things are. As it is now, local governments only pay salaries of staff with great stress, no one will buy a bond from a local government because they have no means to pay.

In Nigeria, only the FG issue bonds. No one, i repeat, no one will buy bonds issued by a local governments, not even states.

For the last time, Nigeria is not America! Neither are they on the same level and you are beginning to sound like you've never been to Nigeria.

Dude, where there is a will there is a way. All you have told me is to stick with the status quo and shot down anything different but you are forgetting is that at some point the baby has to be allowed to walk. It should stop being coddled and carried by its parents.

You are right that i am an outsider and that is good because outsiders see things with a fresh set of eyes. They see things from a different perspective. They say those outside the forest can see the entire forest but those in the forest can only see trees. There is a reason why the United States and Israel are some of the most innovative countries in the world and its because they attract 'outsiders' from different places in the world who brought there ideas and different ways of thinking to the country. I visited Naija recently and boy some of the things i witnessed where so ridiculous it was not even funny. Things that are soooooooooo illogical that they made me scratch my head as to who was making this horrendous decisions. You see outsiders observe things that insiders either cannot see or have stopped seeing. That's one of the reasons companies spend a fortune on consultants (outsiders) to take a look at there current processes and why failing companies usually clean house and start afresh with new people.

You don't need to be a genius to realize that Nigeria does not need 36 states and over 700 local govts. You don't need to be a genius to realize that Nigeria does not need 27 different ministries (and let's not talk about there counterparts at the state levels). You don't need to be a genius to realize that a govt going through hard times should be downsizing and not hiring more govt employees. This is just common sense.

I am sorry bro, but you can't keep doing the same thing over and again and expecting different results, that would be call insanity. Sticking with this same structure despite the failures shows that people are not willing to take the risk. They are willing to stay in Egypt because they are scared of the risks. Well guess what, there are no ideas that come risk free. Every new idea has a probability of not failing but still you try. Our current model is not working and we need a radical change. Leadership is not being afraid to make bold moves simply because of the disadvantages that come with the proposed solution or the fear that it might not work. This is what kills a lot of ideas in Nigeria. People shoot down new ideas everyday because they believe it won't work or because they only focus on the risks or demerits. How about focusing on what works. Great leadership is about weighing the good and the bad of every option and still picking one despite its disadvantages instead of simply doing nothing because of fear. Its about making bold moves and not being paralyzed by over analysis.

Sorry bro but there are no perfect solutions out there, Nigeria has to pick the best one possible. It has to sink or swim.
Re: FG Begins Rehabilitation Work At Kaduna Airport Despite Senate’s Opposition by adanny01(m): 9:11am On Jan 18, 2017
davidif:


Dude, where there is a will there is a way. All you have told me is to stick with the status quo and shot down anything different but you are forgetting is that at some point the baby has to be allowed to walk. It should stop being coddled and carried by its parents.

You are right that i am an outsider and that is good because outsiders see things with a fresh set of eyes. They see things from a different perspective. They say those outside the forest can see the entire forest but those in the forest can only see trees. There is a reason why the United States and Israel are some of the most innovative countries in the world and its because they attract 'outsiders' from different places in the world who brought there ideas and different ways of thinking to the country. I visited Naija recently and boy some of the things i witnessed where so ridiculous it was not even funny. Things that are soooooooooo illogical that they made me scratch my head as to who was making this horrendous decisions. You see outsiders observe things that insiders either cannot see or have stopped seeing. That's one of the reasons companies spend a fortune on consultants (outsiders) to take a look at there current processes and why failing companies usually clean house and start afresh with new people.

You don't need to be a genius to realize that Nigeria does not need 36 states and over 700 local govts. You don't need to be a genius to realize that Nigeria does not need 27 different ministries (and let's not talk about there counterparts at the state levels). You don't need to be a genius to realize that a govt going through hard times should be downsizing and not hiring more govt employees. This is just common sense.

I am sorry bro, but you can't keep doing the same thing over and again and expecting different results, that would be call insanity. Sticking with this same structure despite the failures shows that people are not willing to take the risk. They are willing to stay in Egypt because they are scared of the risks. Well guess what, there are no ideas that come risk free. Every new idea has a probability of not failing but still you try. Our current model is not working and we need a radical change. Leadership is not being afraid to make bold moves simply because of the disadvantages that come with the proposed solution or the fear that it might not work. This is what kills a lot of ideas in Nigeria. People shoot down new ideas everyday because they believe it won't work or because they only focus on the risks or demerits. How about focusing on what works. Great leadership is about weighing the good and the bad of every option and still picking one despite its disadvantages instead of simply doing nothing because of fear. Its about making bold moves and not being paralyzed by over analysis.

Sorry bro but there are no perfect solutions out there, Nigeria has to pick the best one possible. It has to sink or swim.

Thats a long sermon, however, we all agree Nigeria has a big problem. The only issue is the way to solve it. America is a very old country and am sure they made some of the mistakes we are making today before they got it right. We should not expect Nigeria to be like America, else we will take the next 150years trying to be like American by then they would have still been 150 years ahead.
Re: FG Begins Rehabilitation Work At Kaduna Airport Despite Senate’s Opposition by davidif: 9:43am On Jan 18, 2017
adanny01:

Thats a long sermon, however, we all agree Nigeria has a big problem. The only issue is the way to solve it. America is a very old country and am sure they made some of the mistakes we are making today before they got it right. We should not expect Nigeria to be like America, else we will take the next 150years trying to be like American by then they would have still been 150 years ahead.

leapfrog

[leep-frog, -frawg]

noun
1.
a game in which players take turns in leaping over another player bent over from the waist.
2.
an advance from one place, position, or situation to another without progressing through all or any of the places or stages in between:
a leapfrog from bank teller to vice president in one short year.
verb (used with object), leapfrogged, leapfrogging.
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/leapfrog


Example:
The mobile phone is a wonderful example of a “leapfrog” technology: it has enabled developing countries to skip the fixed-line technology of the 20th century and move straight to the mobile technology of the 21st.
http://www.economist.com/node/10650775

(1) (2) (3) (4) (Reply)

Car on Fire Opposite Lagos State House, Marina (Photos) / An Overview Of The Rot In Nigeria's Railway - Photos / Nbc Skye Logistics Not Reliable. 1688 Fake Procurer

(Go Up)

Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health
religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket

Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10)

Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 135
Disclaimer: Every Nairaland member is solely responsible for anything that he/she posts or uploads on Nairaland.