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Re: "Super Rich Churches That Do Business Must Pay Tax" – Sheikh Abdur-Rahman Ahmad by limamintruth: 5:50pm On Jan 15, 2017 |
shanicemel: The thing is most Islamic schools( particularly the ones here in the north) are being financed by the government using tax-payers money (inclusive of christian taxpayers). That is why they have the audacity to challenge mission schools for the high sch. fees charged. Heck, the local Islamiyya opp. my apartment in Kaduna is being funded by the State government; whereas no mission school from the same govt. receives 1kobo from the same govt. Well , there are a lot of truths we Christians(particularly those down south) are terribly ignorant, of and same ignorance is costing us alot. 2 Likes |
Re: "Super Rich Churches That Do Business Must Pay Tax" – Sheikh Abdur-Rahman Ahmad by monabass: 5:51pm On Jan 15, 2017 |
Mr. Man, Shatap there.. Your religion funds book haram terrorism and Fulani herdsmen to kill Christians, u still have mouth to talk Mind u, offerings are not mere contributions. Even if it is what u think, they are not used to purchase arms to suffer humanity. Wo, una matter dey vex me self |
Re: "Super Rich Churches That Do Business Must Pay Tax" – Sheikh Abdur-Rahman Ahmad by adeA1(m): 5:52pm On Jan 15, 2017 |
eyeview:what is there to jealous in being sheeps.™™™™‘‘‘ 1 Like |
Re: "Super Rich Churches That Do Business Must Pay Tax" – Sheikh Abdur-Rahman Ahmad by Teekzel(m): 5:55pm On Jan 15, 2017 |
[quote author=Teekzel post=52832653][/quote]this is a verse from the Qur'an O you who believe, do not violate the (sanctity of) offerings to God, nor the rites of the holy month, nor sacrificial cattle with garlands (that are brought to the Ka'bah), nor of the people who flock to the Holy House seeking the bounties of their Lord, and His pleasure. Hunt when you have laid aside the robe of the pilgrim. And do not let your hatred of a people who had barred you from the Holy Mosque lead you to aggression. But help one another in goodness and piety, and do not assist in crime and rebellion, and fear God. Surely God is severe in punishment.Quran 5:2 |
Re: "Super Rich Churches That Do Business Must Pay Tax" – Sheikh Abdur-Rahman Ahmad by HqBoss: 5:57pm On Jan 15, 2017 |
[quote author=Teekzel post=52832653][/quote] u typing nonsense, i jst gave u the easiest task u could ever think of which was for u to come up with facts about what u support but lo and behold u failed. Ur sentiments will mean nothing if u cant confidently support it with verifiable facts. |
Re: "Super Rich Churches That Do Business Must Pay Tax" – Sheikh Abdur-Rahman Ahmad by Nobody: 6:01pm On Jan 15, 2017 |
Omudia11: And what was moses? Besides, jesus was a racist prude was he not? 1 Like |
Re: "Super Rich Churches That Do Business Must Pay Tax" – Sheikh Abdur-Rahman Ahmad by RooRuudRonSaha(m): 6:03pm On Jan 15, 2017 |
These uninformed christians wont stop to amaze me. The cleric said churches and mosques yet you guys are not satisfied. Islam will make you commit suicide. Churches are now business centres whether you like it or not. Abi muslims dey collect tithes for their God like christians act like marketers for God. 1 Like |
Re: "Super Rich Churches That Do Business Must Pay Tax" – Sheikh Abdur-Rahman Ahmad by adeA1(m): 6:09pm On Jan 15, 2017 |
evnthough the theme of the writeup is delibrately skewed to confuse, didnt the sheeps aduce from the content that the shaek directed his talk to both muslim & christian. hmmmmm no wonder they just bound follow sheepishly. . |
Re: "Super Rich Churches That Do Business Must Pay Tax" – Sheikh Abdur-Rahman Ahmad by Teekzel(m): 6:11pm On Jan 15, 2017 |
HqBoss:if we follow God says there be no problem. O you who believe, do not practice usury, charging doubled and redoubled (interest); but have fear of God: you may well attain your goal.Quran 3:130 religion take part alot in all our social life and hereafter those who are to pay tax are the one that have fanincial business and willing to contribute but the government should issue tax that wont ruin business. Anything we want to do we should do it according the way God says today a lot of people have turn their religion into financial business because of their ignorane to the word of God and the messenger S.A.W and mind u Qur'an verse are not nonsense it is for those who understand,the TRUE believer |
Re: "Super Rich Churches That Do Business Must Pay Tax" – Sheikh Abdur-Rahman Ahmad by semyman: 6:12pm On Jan 15, 2017 |
Going through the comments here, I weep for this country, the enslavement is real. I am sure some comments were made without reading thruogh the entire gamut of his submission. The incidence of deprivation is more on you than on those trying to bail you out of your missery |
Re: "Super Rich Churches That Do Business Must Pay Tax" – Sheikh Abdur-Rahman Ahmad by Omudia11: 6:13pm On Jan 15, 2017 |
Baseless... Moses isn't my standard, Jesus is. Didn't your Quran say Jesus was pure and without sin? Lmao! VomeSchakleton: |
Re: "Super Rich Churches That Do Business Must Pay Tax" – Sheikh Abdur-Rahman Ahmad by adeA1(m): 6:16pm On Jan 15, 2017 |
thank Allah for am muslim. i love Allah & all his prophets. EInsa (Jesus)is inclusive 2 Likes |
Re: "Super Rich Churches That Do Business Must Pay Tax" – Sheikh Abdur-Rahman Ahmad by Mbediogu(m): 6:21pm On Jan 15, 2017 |
Sheikh Sir, you must be in charge of Federal Government of Nigeria directly or indirectly. No doubt about that, but do super rich mosques in Saudi, Iran, and all such Islamic nations of the world pay tax? In Nigeria the mosques don't pay tax because government has always been theirs for keeps. Seriously speaking our country is floundering! |
Re: "Super Rich Churches That Do Business Must Pay Tax" – Sheikh Abdur-Rahman Ahmad by stone07(m): 6:21pm On Jan 15, 2017 |
musicwriter:What did they use the tax they have been collecting b4 u were born for? Do u presently have 24hrs lite in your place? Does pipe water run into your house? Do u have good accessible road in all places. Do we have good hospital with adequate drugs and equipment,school facilities and so on. If u agree and say yes I believe government is using the tax money judiciously. But my guy, you better dont deceive yourself. A hungry man pretending he is belleful. He is deceiving himself. All these schools own by churches are already paying tax. What else does the sheikh want again. Some guys here were saying can't we see he mentioned church and d mosque. Is he in the position to advise government on this? There many trivial issues on ground,they leave that one and starts talking about religion. See as Fulani's are killing innocent Nigerians all over the places. The Muslims kept silent as if they did not hear or know it. The same way they kept silent when boko Haram began in 1999 if am correct. This was because boko Haram were attacking Christians alone then. I'm very sorry for those Christians talking in favour of what the sheikh said. Lets 4get that he mentioned both churches and mosque. Had it bn it was a pastor who said something that affect them most. What do you think would happen? We Christians we like to take shit from these people. Where can you see a small church for few Christians in Muslim schools, where by u see small mosque in evert Christian missionary schools. Been a Christian,does not mean we should be dat stupid. 98℅ of those people saying the sheikh mentioned churches and mosque are Muslims. Must we always support bad motives because we belong to that faith. Well,I don't blame them. I blame those people calling themselves Christians. So Christians are at fault because they donate freely to the church. Why will a person who does not know how a church is being operate be advising govt. Christians that u hate, Christians that you persecute, Christians that you kill and Christians that you oppressed, Christians you called infidel. You want to benefit from the church taxed money. I fear this people. |
Re: "Super Rich Churches That Do Business Must Pay Tax" – Sheikh Abdur-Rahman Ahmad by Shafiiimran99: 6:26pm On Jan 15, 2017 |
monabass: WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND... If u think some Muslims are trying to convert xtians by force to Islam, it was what xtians had done before too so u people should think twice before say anything about Islam though, I don't like what is happening in the north because it's against Islamic teach but truth must be told. CONVERT TO CHRISTIANITY OR DIE John Stone & Hugh Fogelman Millions of African−Americans are Christians today because their ancestors were converted against their will to the religion of the slave-master. Hundreds of thousands of American−Indians are Christians today because the Christian missionaries converted their ancestors against their will. In Europe, it was the same thing. When Rome controlled most of the world, the Roman Emperor, Constantine, in 325 CE forced Christianity onto his subjects. The people of Lithuania did not become Christians because they read the gospels and decided to accept their teachings. On the contrary, the people of Lithuania were forced into Christianity against their will, as a result of relentless military force. From The Crusades, by Bernard Hamilton:1 “In 1309 the Teutonic Order moved its headquarters to Marienburg in Prussia. It had a papal license to wage perpetual war against the pagans and used this to launch annual crusades against Lithuania. These expeditions were very popular the nobility of northern Europe: campaigns were held twice a year, in the summer and in the winter when the order laid on special Christmas festivities for visiting crusaders.” “The excuse for men who enjoyed fighting and to lay waste large parts of Lithuania in the name of Christ was removed in 1386 when the King of Lithuania, Ladislas Jagiello, married Queen Jadwiga of Poland and received Catholic baptism. The two kingdoms were united under Christian rulers and the Teutonic Knights no longer had any justification for crusading against pagans there.” Lithuania was not the first country that fell victim to a campaign of lethal military force, for the purpose of forced conversion to Christianity. Three entire European nationalities became victims of genocide because they refused to become Christians: “...the Vandals, Ostogoths, and Heruli. The last three were destroyed by the Pope of Rome because they refused to become ‘Christian.’ The armies of Emperor Justinian, in cooperation with the Pope, thrust the Ostrogoths out of the city of Rome. They have become extinct.” 2 Jews had to endure the sword too. Millions of Jews from the fourth century CE until the 20 th Century were forced to “kiss the sword” of Christ, or be put to death by that sword. Therefore, many, many Jews died at the hands of Christians in the name of Jesus. Fortunately, many Jews managed to survive. They survived by lying―they converted, but secretly remained Jews. The Christian Church finally realized what was happening and in 1492, the Spanish Inquisition tried to purge the country of these “Secret” Jews, called Marranos. Christianity should not take any pride for their large numbers of subjects. Almost all Christian ancestors, Catholics and Protestants really had no choice in the matter. They were forced to accept Jesus as their god ― Invisible Friend in the Sky . Christianity was a forced religion. Today it is being forced in another manner, through an army of missionaries beating on your door and brainwashing your children in school classrooms, extracurricular activities and intramural sports. “I am now convinced that children should not be subjected to the frightfulness of the Christian religion. ... If the concept of a father who plots to have his own son put to death is presented to children as beautiful and as worthy of society's admiration, what types of human behavior can be presented to them as reprehensible?” —Ruth Hurmence Green (1915-1981) NOTES: 1. The Crusades , by Bernard Hamilton, 1998, Sutton Publishing, United Kingdom, Chapter 9: Later Crusades, page 87) 2. National Sunday Law, A. Jan Marcussen, 1983, page 11) |
Re: "Super Rich Churches That Do Business Must Pay Tax" – Sheikh Abdur-Rahman Ahmad by Nobody: 6:27pm On Jan 15, 2017 |
Omudia11: Was moses a thief, a murderer and a rap.ist? But your bible implied jesus was a racist. The bleeding shi.tting cry baby. |
Re: "Super Rich Churches That Do Business Must Pay Tax" – Sheikh Abdur-Rahman Ahmad by Mbediogu(m): 6:29pm On Jan 15, 2017 |
slinkman: It is not irreversible, we can apply for 'Re colonisation with kegs of Palm wine. |
Re: "Super Rich Churches That Do Business Must Pay Tax" – Sheikh Abdur-Rahman Ahmad by brojoshua: 6:31pm On Jan 15, 2017 |
Business is business and in the countries where they are not corrupt or wickedly corrupt like in Nigeria, every business that reaches a certain threshold use to pay tax, and church is different from business; church should be treated as church and business as business. If a man is both a pastor and Managing Director of a business, he should answer to government in two ways separately, one as a pastor and two as a business owner. And tax must be paid by him as any other business man pays tax. If government has not been treating the case as I am helped to explain, then it is because Nigeria is very corrupt and still. Then Nigeria should stop being corrupt and treat each situation as it should be treated. Business is business and businesses should be treated as business and business man is a business, whether he is pastor or president or farmer, and business men should be treated as business men. Thank you. 1 Like |
Re: "Super Rich Churches That Do Business Must Pay Tax" – Sheikh Abdur-Rahman Ahmad by Nobody: 6:31pm On Jan 15, 2017 |
Omudia11: “First let the children eat all they want,” he told her, “for it is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to their dogs.” Jesus calls a woman a dog. He uses a racial slur against her. His fellow Israelites are children who have first claim on his time and energy, but foreign pagans like this Syro-Phoenician woman and her daughter are dogs. What an embarassing god he is. If he tried something like this today hed be in jail. |
Re: "Super Rich Churches That Do Business Must Pay Tax" – Sheikh Abdur-Rahman Ahmad by HqBoss: 6:35pm On Jan 15, 2017 |
Teekzel:dude wat are u thinking? that the bible and quran are same? impossicant. the quran binds its followers and are applicable only to its followers. so carry wat u wrote up there out of my face cos i dont buy into it. u cant come here and force ur shii on down the throat of non muslims. so called religion of peace yet they are champions at forceing their religion on people. baba go sidown with dat tin. go and find ur muslim brothers to preach to not me. And here i was thinking u had actionable intelligence to share with me about taxing of the church in the bible. |
Re: "Super Rich Churches That Do Business Must Pay Tax" – Sheikh Abdur-Rahman Ahmad by Abdul3391(m): 6:36pm On Jan 15, 2017 |
Abrupt:Shut up! so that all this hungry politicians will loot it abi? You think the church doesn't have needs? |
Re: "Super Rich Churches That Do Business Must Pay Tax" – Sheikh Abdur-Rahman Ahmad by stone07(m): 6:50pm On Jan 15, 2017 |
Shafiiimran99:You are devoid of basic knowledge. And if u are,there is no how u can be reasonable. I have since observed on nairaland that whenever a Christian talk about Muslims killing Christians. I see that you people come here with all sot of baseless excuses and theory, inaccurate dead and irrelevant history. Misinformation stories that was before your great great grand Parents were born. Stories that is not specific about d status of d killers,no name of specific people that were killing. What you don't know is a follower of Jesus Christ will never kill |
Re: "Super Rich Churches That Do Business Must Pay Tax" – Sheikh Abdur-Rahman Ahmad by Teekzel(m): 6:53pm On Jan 15, 2017 |
HqBoss:Guy you see don't you know that I don't need to give you proofs go and see ur self and don't let me start with you you your self (christian) are not following your bible infact! in your bible show me where bible was mentioned as the holybook. pillars of Islam consist if five things.if this things are found in the bible then you are a Muslim But your christian popes and leader keep the truths deceiving people ,bearing FALSE witness against Jesus turning their practise into business Plz seek knowlegde about your religion I pray U see the truth |
Re: "Super Rich Churches That Do Business Must Pay Tax" – Sheikh Abdur-Rahman Ahmad by lekzman: 7:08pm On Jan 15, 2017 |
Hmmm! Nigerians! Why religion is majory problem in this country? If Muslim said yes, christian will say No, Christian say Yes Muslim will No. Why? Is this what religious said we should do? Go read your Holy Book well, muslim pay tax, christian pay tax? Both of them talked about "TAX", why? Muslim & christian are enemy. Poor people! Poor mind! Tax is for riche people. What make you sure that your religion is what God/Allah want. If private organization are paying tax then, why religion schools. Are they not private school? Please, what this man said is right, businesses are to pay tax either Muslim or Christian. If churches & mosques are to pay tax what is your problem. I beg, waiting be our wahala self overring is not compulsry in church or mosque. Na wa! |
Re: "Super Rich Churches That Do Business Must Pay Tax" – Sheikh Abdur-Rahman Ahmad by stone07(m): 7:11pm On Jan 15, 2017 |
Shafiiimran99:You are devoid of basic knowledge. And if u are,there is no how u can be reasonable. I have since observed on nairaland that whenever a Christian talk about Muslims killing Christians. I see that you people come here with all sot of baseless excuses and theory, inaccurate dead and irrelevant history. Misinformation stories that was before your great great grand Parents were born. Stories that is not specific about d status of d killers,no name of specific people that were killing. What you don't know is a follower of Jesus Christ will never kill and will never kill in the name of Jesus Christ, unlike your Muslim brothers that kill for Allah. Pls must you people defend what is totally wrong? U came here with over 2000 years stories and using it to defend Islamic terrorists that are killing innocent people in this generation. Islamic killings that we are all witnessing live and direct and u are here supporting the Islamic terrorists. I ask u,mention of any Christian that have killed with the name of Jesus Christ. Those people in the stories you wrote are the same people that persecute and killed Jesus Christ if you don't know. May be you are also among the confused people who called all white people Christians. Whenever a white man killed,they will say a Christian committed terrorism. Yes a Christian by birth can kill but will never kill in God's name. The clear difference between an Islamic terrorists and a Christian. All Muslims are not terrorist but all terrorists are Muslims. Take it or leave. 2 Likes |
Re: "Super Rich Churches That Do Business Must Pay Tax" – Sheikh Abdur-Rahman Ahmad by HqBoss: 7:13pm On Jan 15, 2017 |
Teekzel:lol i see u are living in delusion. u wana be all righteous about ur religion ba, give me a reason why imams/ alfas are usually associated with and caught with ritualist/occultic materials. if its not some1's head, its anoda part. yet u are here trying to prove to me about whats real? first address the evil things perpetrated by ur fellow muslim followers all sourced from the evil book and u call it holybook. u are highly deluded. i know u wont address the points i raised. baba u know nothing about the bible because u are not a christian. u guys will neva agree that jesus is the son of God. u guys typically copied from the bible and and then added some evil tinz to what u guys consider ur holybook. the lifestyle of christians are way different from that of muslims. we dont worship the moon like u guys do. Our God created the moon that u guys seem to call god. bt ur deluded mind wont let u accept that fact. there is nothing that brings christians and muslims together so get ur shiit together and stop saying nonsense. besides why are u sad if churches are getting richer by the day? its not like they do anything occultic like u guys do. We work with the bible simply. oh and God works in a number of those big churches u peeps are so jealous of. |
Re: "Super Rich Churches That Do Business Must Pay Tax" – Sheikh Abdur-Rahman Ahmad by Dee60: 7:13pm On Jan 15, 2017 |
The Imam should just have minded his business. |
Re: "Super Rich Churches That Do Business Must Pay Tax" – Sheikh Abdur-Rahman Ahmad by Teekzel(m): 7:14pm On Jan 15, 2017 |
stone07:Mumu poster |
Re: "Super Rich Churches That Do Business Must Pay Tax" – Sheikh Abdur-Rahman Ahmad by Alajiki(m): 7:16pm On Jan 15, 2017 |
There is a problem on Nairand that I have observed. Once a post is lengthy, less than 20% of commenters read before commenting. If you read the entire interview, the man did not make any divisive submission. He even condemned the fact that government tried to limit tenure of heads of religious organisations. He also submitted that most of the heads of religious organisations were not brought into the loop before the code was signed. The man is the head of the largest Muslim organisation in Nigeria and West Africa, yet he was never invited by the government. We all put emotion into our comments and this is a big problem...we will never be objective in our comments. If we believe pastors should continue with their obscene accumulation of wealth, good! But this man has said the truth! |
Re: "Super Rich Churches That Do Business Must Pay Tax" – Sheikh Abdur-Rahman Ahmad by Teekzel(m): 7:17pm On Jan 15, 2017 |
HqBoss:Hahaha look at you U wanna tell me that there is no thread about people being caught with human parts have they ever called their self alfas or imam what us your proof that Islam is evil unless you are just speaking nonses you people claim Jesus to be the son of God and he is just a servant whom God has sent go and check your bible,you people don't believe in all the prophets you only believe Jesus. also practising fault religion you neither follow Jesus nor worship God you are just being christian by misunderstanding of scriptures and re writing it of what is brought to you, blasphemin against him He Neva said you should worship but he said act according to the will of God. i can give you proofs even from your misinterpreted and handwriting bible |
Re: "Super Rich Churches That Do Business Must Pay Tax" – Sheikh Abdur-Rahman Ahmad by Shafiiimran99: 7:19pm On Jan 15, 2017 |
stone07:Hope u would agree that boko haram is not Islamic too |
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