yes. you can.You provided help and got help, but this time--pressed down,shaken together and running OVER.

2tek replies an MMM ANTAGONIST--- maclatunji


The following are my questions to the subscribers to MMM popularly called Mavrodians.
here are the answers from my understanding.

1. Where do you think the money you are collecting through MMM is coming from?

MMM claims not to be a business and not an investment, so where do you think the 30% return which excites you so much is coming from?

ANSWER:the 30% comes from traffic generated from the website,money donated by new members, money re-donated by old members and help from other countries. it is ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE for ALL these 4 conditions not to occur. MARK ZUCKERBERG, the owner of Facebook is the 5th or 6th richest in the world and one of the ways he gets his money is through traffic generated by Facebook. MMM is currently in over 120 countries of the world with over 200 million participants.

2. Do you know what a Ponzi scheme is?

I have to ask this question because of those who defend MMM with the claim that they have made money from it. To be the clear, a minority will make money from Ponzi schemes being the early adopters that help to create the exponential growth. However, the latter subscribers are the ones that lose greatly. If you understand this, you will not present this argument as evidence for MMM not being a fraud.

ANSWER:BIG LIE.The early adopters will pay the newcomers. the next set of newcomers will pay the early adopters and it continues like that. its a circle that will never end. Money is redistributed among members of MMM on the principle of gratuitousness, benevolence and reciprocity. MMM members donate FREELY to each other. Nobody was forced to join MMM. We are aware of the risks both implicit and explicit. No man has ever succeeded financially without taking CALCULATED RISKS.

3. Where did you get the money you invested in MMM from?

You could not use that money in any legitimate business?

I ask this question because many MMM subscribers behave as if they were incapable of earning money before MMM came.

ANSWER:A good number of MMM subscribers are gainfully employed and have normal businesses. Remember, There is nothing wrong in having an alternative source of income. Remember, we have DANGOTE CEMENT, DANGOTE SUGAR, DANGOTE RICE FARM and now in the pipeline - DANGOTE REFINERY.

4. Is it that you don’t understand that governments across the world are duty-bound not to allow a Ponzi scheme started by an ex-convict that has scammed people across the world operate freely within their countries?

This one is self-explanatory, Sergey Mavrodi the main brain behind MMM is an ex-convict. He got convicted for scamming Russians with a precursor scheme to MMM.

[b]ANSWER: Point of correction-MMM has never defrauded anyone. MMM became so popular in RUSSIA and was controlling one third of the total money in russia at a time, so the government became jealous and decided to loot the peoples money using 17 trucks to carry/loot cash from MMM OFFICES. That is the main reason MMM doesn't have a CENTRAL ACCOUNT where money can easily be stolen.The government of Russia defrauded the participants,not MMM. They claimed SERGEI MAVRODI/MMM evaded tax but MMM/SERGEI MAVRODI stood his ground telling/educating the government oppressors that MMM is not a business that should pay tax. MMM is just a community of people donating/helping each other with their spare cash. DO you pax tax to the government on the spare money you donate to your brother or neighbour or give out as charity? MMM has come to destroy the current unfair and unjust financial world order/institutions, so don't expect the government,CBN,SEC, etc to be happy. MMM has come to liberate people from financial bondage and servitude. The financial APOCALYPSE is inevitable. MMM servers(cloud servers) are not located in NIGERIA, so the government CAN NOT STOP MMM. the same way the government can not stop facebook,youtube,twitter etc.[/b]


5. Explain how MMM is a revolutionary idea that commercial banking should be afraid of?

MMM subcribers are quick to tag banks as stealing from their customers while MMM is the solution for the masses. Curiously enough, they pay into each other’s bank accounts; curious to say the least.

ANSWER:MMM gives 30% every 30days which the banks CAN NOT give. MMM gives 10% referral bonus. NO serious MMM participant will take loan from any bank again. No serious MMM participant will maintain any fixed deposit in the bank again. No serious MMM participant will buy any dubious, non performing shares again.


6. Do you understand that wealth is created based on the value you create not through this system operated by a few people to rob people of their money while leaving them in the lurch?

Let us say all of us joined MMM, where would productive output come from?

ANSWER: MMM does not stop anyone who is serious from being productive. MMM will in fact assist to provide the financial boost needed for people to be more productive. MANY MMM participants are gainfully employed and engage in various productive businesses and entrepreneurial ventures.


7. Did you anticipate that your ‘investment’ (sorry, your ‘Mavros’) could be frozen without you having any say on what happens next?

I am sure many ‘Mavrodians’ did not expect this December debacle, but we are here.

ANSWER: PAUSE MODE/FREEZING OF ACCOUNTS is one of the strategies employed by MMM for STABILITY AND SUSTAINABILITY. its not a new strategy, only those who didn't read/research well about MMM will claim ignorance. THe number of participants GHing*(getting help or withdrawing money) from the system should balance with the number of participants PHing*(providing help or depositing money) otherwise a PAUSE MODE is activated which normally lasts from 1-2months. MMM has lasted for 5years in its current form since 2011, and that is one of the strategies adopted over the years. it was adopted in south africa and zimbabwe and the MMM in both countries is doing fine now.


8. Do you agree that as a promoter of the scheme, you are quite dubious because you are seeking to reap bountifully at the expense of others when the scheme crashes?

Note I wrote ‘when’ not ‘if’

ANSWER: OGA, MMM CAN NOT and i repeat CAN NOT crash. The worst that can happen is a pause mode/re-start. A pause mode is not a crash. my people perish for lack of knowledge. It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of the needle than for MMM to crash. MMM is an ideology. MMM is like religion, religion CAN NOT CRASH. The day an individual dies, his own MMM or religion has CRASHED.In a pause mode, MMM will manually calculate how much each individual has earned from the system, those who have made 'profit' already and some of the 'rich' participants will have their old mavros/money frozen and released gradually, but the poor,newcomers or 1st timers will be queued up to be paid first by the system followed by others. thereby ensuring that NOBODY looses money. and the system PH/GH RATIO will balance after some time.

9. Do you not worry that you could have a hand in the death or grievous harm happening to people who could lose money from MMM and become suicidal?

We already have reports of some people taking poison because their money got frozen this December.

ANSWER: MMM is sincere and transparent, hence the WARNING to ALL participants to participate with their spare money. This is CLEARLY WRITTEN on the programs website home page. MMM participants are adults responsible for their actions.

10. Do you understand that you are effectively using time that you could use for productive activity to promote a questionable scheme at best?

If you understand that time lost is irrecoverable, why waste it?

ANSWER: MMM is not a questionable scheme. MMM is an ideology that is changing lives of millions of people around the world. MMM is bridging the gap between the rich and the poor. If any adult decides to dedicate few hours or days to donate his/her spare money to charity or a neighbour in need, or teach people how to do same, do u consider that wasteful? MMM is helping humanity, that is CERTAINLY NOT WASTEFUL.

Your answers and feedback are quite welcome.

Source: http://www.opinions.ng/top-10-questions-mmm-subscribers-mavrodians-answer/

I think nairaland should rename to mmmland. my love for nairaland is diminishing all because of their biased about this mmm saga.

holuwajobar:
nah...am nt lyin....my friend brought up dz question den i decided to post it nairaland to geh some answer

u don't need to explain yourself. Let your conscience be the judge.

Origin:
Nobody can make religious payments from illegal means.


God is not in need of it.

Who made it 'illegal'?

Who decides which money is legal and illegal?
Some money you take to church from your legally earn business are not accepted by God most times because it's either the gain was beyond what it should be or you cheated your customers by selling less quality Goods at the price of a quality one.
Mine is always do whatever your Mind tell you is absolutely right.
God bless you all

MMM money is made from actually robbing someone else. You get your 30% increase because someone else will lose all their money. How can you appease God with money obtained from causing sorrow for another person.
MMM money is like blood money.

Tithes from robbing peter to pay Paul!?

Igwedubai2. So brethren you can. Is just like someone talking a loan in the banks must pay interest. It does not matter were the money is coming from oh! Because lend them and they paid u interest. You can pay ur title. Don't questions God

Please I beg you in the name of the Lord and your parents,after collecting the money,TRY RE-PH BACK into the system rather than paying tithes where your money will just be stocked somewhere.Re-PHing is the main thing for now.Thanks.

Well I suggest you pay the tithe first and let God almighty decide cos he said bring the tithe from what ever you earn which includes the money given to you by people.... I would say this if we want to start pointing illegal money then we got a lot to refer to so bros go pay your tithe or you are considering how big the tithe you want to give out of MMM money would be .....

Its allowed

O Religion, see what you a causing.

veekid:
Money is money biko

Biko, plus including money obtained through human rituals? Eh?

admax:
Sure, you can pay it to the Church and the money will be spent as deemed fit by the Church (90% charity most times)

But, the blessing that come to Tithers wouldn't be on it because MMM is like gambling/betting/Yahoo Yahoo and there is no way God blesses such money.

Lol what are you smoking son? Common are you this naive? lol, I shake my head for Nigeria..You are so convinced of this gibberish that you type that you emboldened your text. The country is not getting out of this mess in 2 decades!

I know Pentecostal churches in Italy where Benin prostitutes pay tithes.

Origin:
Nobody can make religious payments from illegal means.


God is not in need of it.

Honey you don't give it to God, but to the needy and these aren't anymore the real needy, the pastors have assumed that position these days, that is why we can't stop having the needy

LorDBolton:
If politicians are paying their tithes from embezzled funds...then by all means pay your tithes off mmm

Oga u neva anser ma question o

Chikelue2000:
U r right. MMM is. Illegal

I just reported you for saying MMM is illegal

unipol:
I know Pentecostal churches in Italy where Benin prostitutes pay tithes.

I dey suspect you be one of those pastors receiving money from olosho in italy

admax:
Sure, you can pay it to the Church and the money will be spent as deemed fit by the Church (90% charity most times)

But, the blessing that come to Tithers wouldn't be on it because MMM is like gambling/betting/Yahoo Yahoo and there is no way God blesses such money.

Though someone might want to explain MMM business model apart from the rob Peter to pay Paul kind of thing they do.

bros na wa

Origin:
Nobody can make religious payments from illegal means.


God is not in need of it.

But how is it an illegal means. The way money is distributed is that someone pays into the system to pay another. So how is that illegal?

MrIcredible:

Liar

Every thread that concerns mmm is taken to front page
Mod > weh don Sar !
You're just promoting mmm for us

By the way, trust naija pastors, any form of money is welcomed.


Even pastors dey advertise mmm for church this days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DzO7c5KThU

Fr d fest tym in d history of nairaland, i made it to FP....i dedicate dis to my hommies in Abroad...lol

Origin:
Nobody can make religious payments from illegal means.


God is not in need of it.

Sister..abegii lemme hear sumtin!

Origin:
Nobody can make religious payments from illegal means.


God is not in need of it.

so you are now God's spokes person. You think your rant will not make me pay my tithes to my God with proceed from Mmm ?

Op this ur topic does not have weight, just want to show ur face, what concerns mmm with tithe, just Pay ur 10% of ur income, so weather is Mmm,mlm or mcm, God judges.

wisesoul:
Who decides which money is legal and illegal?
Some money you take to church from your legally earn business are not accepted by God most times because it's either the gain was beyond what it should be or you cheated your customers by selling less quality Goods at the price of a quality one.
Mine is always do whatever your Mind tell you is absolutely right.
God bless you all

Love listening to people like this
You are indeed a wise soul

if you have the conviction in your heart that it is illegal...... please dont bother paying that tithe as you cannot bribe GOD. you can use the money to help the less privileged around you...by so doing you are putting a smile on someone....there is no greater joy like seeing someone smiling because of you.