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Re: Why Muslims Should Never Have To Apologize For Terrorism - By Omar Alnatour by amanikondo: 2:53pm On Feb 10, 2017
OLAJADON:

indeed u are a gullible fellow and a hypocrite...why are you picking just single verse
a Muslims has no right to kill an infidel for no reason.

you still havnt answered my question.

But can kill for a reason? undecided undecided undecided undecided

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Re: Why Muslims Should Never Have To Apologize For Terrorism - By Omar Alnatour by tartar9(m): 2:58pm On Feb 10, 2017
Yawns!
EX 17:13 With the Lord's approval, Joshua mows down Amalek and his people. EX 21:20-21 With the Lord's approval, a slave may be beaten to death with no punishment for the perpetrator as long as the slave doesn't die too quickly. EX 32:27 "Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbor. EX 32:27-29 With the Lord's approval, the Israelites slay 3000 men. LE 26:7-8 The Lord promises the Israelites that, if they are obedient, their enemies will "fall before your sword." LE 26:22 "I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children." LE 26:29 , DT 28:53 , JE 19:9 , EZ 5:8-10 As a punishment, the Lord will cause people to eat the flesh of their own sons and daughters and fathers and friends. LE 27:29 Human sacrifice is condoned. (Note: An example is given in JG 11:30-39 ) NU 11:33 The Lord smites the people with a great plague. NU 12:1-10 God makes Miriam a leper for seven days because she and Aaron had spoken against Moses. NU 15:32-36 A Sabbath breaker (who had gathered sticks for a fire) is stoned to death at the Lord's command. NU 16:27-33 The Lord causes the earth to open and swallow up the men and their households (including wives and children) because the men had been rebellious. NU 16:35 A fire from the Lord consumes 250 men. NU 16:49 A plague from the Lord kills 14,700 people. NU 21:3 The Israelites utterly destroy the Canaanites. NU 21:6 Fiery serpents, sent by the Lord, kill many Israelites. NU 21:35 With the Lord's approval, the Israelites slay Og "... and his sons and all his people, until there was not one survivor left ...." NU 25:4 (KJV) "And the Lord said unto Moses, take all the heads of the people, and hang them up before the Lord against the sun ...." NU 25:8 "He went after the man of Israel into the tent, and thrust both of them through, the man of Israel, and the woman through her belly." NU 25:9 24,000 people die in a plague from the Lord. NU 31:9 The Israelites capture Midianite women and children. NU 31:17-18 Moses, following the Lord's command, orders the Israelites to kill all the Midianite male children and "... every woman who has known man ...." (Note: How would it be determined which women had known men? One can only speculate.) NU 31:31-40 32,000 virgins are taken by the Israelites as booty. Thirty-two are set aside (to be sacrificed?) as a tribute for the Lord. DT 2:33-34 The Israelites utterly destroy the men, women, and children of Sihon. DT 3:6 The Israelites utterly destroy the men, women, and children of Og. DT 7:2 The Lord commands the Israelites to "utterly destroy" and show "no mercy" to those whom he gives them for defeat. DT 20:13-14 "When the Lord delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the males .... As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves." DT 20:16 "In the cities of the nations the Lord is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes." DT 21:10-13 With the Lord's approval, the Israelites are allowed to take "beautiful women" from the enemy camp to be their captive wives. If, after sexual relations, the husband has "no delight" in his wife, he can simply let her go. DT 28:53 "You will eat the fruit of the womb, the flesh of the sons and daughters the Lord your God has given you." JS 1:1-9 , 18 Joshua receives the Lord's blessing for all the bloody endeavors to follow. JS 6:21-27 With the Lord's approval, Joshua destroys the city of Jericho--men, women, and children--with the edge of the sword. JS 7:19-26 Achan, his children and his cattle are stoned to death because Achan had taken a taboo thing. JS 8:22-25 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly smites the people of Ai, killing 12,000 men and women, so that there were none who escaped. JS 10:10-27 With the help of the Lord, Joshua utterly destroys the Gibeonites. JS 10:28 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the people of Makkedah. JS 10:30 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the Libnahites. JS 10:32-33 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the people of Lachish. JS 10:34-35 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the Eglonites. JS 10:36-37 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the Hebronites. JS 10:38-39 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the Debirites. JS 10:40 (A summary statement.) "So Joshua defeated the whole land ...; he left none remaining, but destroyed all that breathed, as the Lord God of Israel commanded." JS 11:6 The Lord orders horses to be hamstrung. (Exceedingly cruel.) JS 11:8-15 "And the lord gave them into the hand of Israel, ...utterly destroying them; there was none left that breathed ...." JS 11:20 "For it was the Lord's doing to harden their hearts that they should come against Israel in battle, in order that they should be utterly destroyed, and should receive no mercy but be exterminated, as the Lord commanded Moses." JS 11:21-23 Joshua utterly destroys the Anakim. JG 1:4 With the Lord's support, Judah defeats 10,000 Canaanites at Bezek. JG 1:6 With the Lord's approval, Judah pursues Adoni-bezek, catches him, and cuts off his thumbs and big toes. JG 1:8 With the Lord's approval, Judah smites Jerusalem. JG 1:17 With the Lord's approval, Judah and Simeon utterly destroy the Canaanites who inhabited Zephath. JG 3:29 The Israelites kill about 10,000 Moabites. JG 3:31 (A restatement.) Shamgar killed 600 Philistines with an oxgoad. JG 4:21 Jael takes a tent stake and hammers it through the head of Sisera, fastening it to the ground. JG 7:19-25 The Gideons defeat the Midianites, slay their princes, cut off their heads, and bring the heads back to Gideon. JG 8:15-21 The Gideons slaughter the men of Penuel. JG 9:5 Abimalech murders his brothers. JG 9:45 Abimalech and his men kill all the people in the city. JG 9:53-54 "A woman dropped a stone on his head and cracked his skull. Hurriedly he called to his armor-bearer, 'Draw your sword and kill me, so that they can't say a woman killed me.' So his servant ran him through, and he died." JG 11:29-39 Jepthah sacrifices his beloved daughter, his only child, according to a vow he has made with the Lord. JG 14:19 The Spirit of the Lord comes upon a man and causes him to slay thirty men. JG 15:15 Samson slays 1000 men with the jawbone of an ass. JG 16:21 The Philistines gouge out Samson's eyes. JG 16:27-30 Samson, with the help of the Lord, pulls down the pillars of the Philistine house and causes his own death and that of 3000 other men and women. JG 18:27 The Danites slay the quiet and unsuspecting people of Laish. JG 19:22-29 A group of sexual depraved men beat on the door of an old man's house demanding that he turn over to them a male house guest. Instead, the old man offers his virgin daughter and his guest's concubine (or wife): "Behold, here are my virgin daughter and his concubine; let me bring them out now. Ravish them and do with them what seems good to you; but against this man do not do so vile a thing." The man's concubine is ravished and dies. The man then cuts her body into twelve pieces and sends one piece to each of the twelve tribes of Israel. JG 20:43-48 The Israelites smite 25,000+ "men of valor" from amongst the Benjamites, "men and beasts and all that they found," and set their towns on fire. JG 21:10-12 "... Go and smite the inhabitants of Jabesh-gilead with the edge of the sword and; also the women and little ones.... every male and every woman that has lain with a male you shall utterly destroy." They do so and find four hundred young virgins whom they bring back for their own use. 1SA 4:10 The Philistines slay 30,000 Israelite foot soldiers. 1SA 5:6-9 The Lord afflicts the Philistines with tumors in their "secret parts," presumably for having stolen the Ark. 1SA 6:19 God kills seventy men (or so) for looking into the Ark (at him?). (Note: The early Israelites apparently thought the Ark to be God's abode.) 1SA 7:7-11 Samuel and his men smite the Philistines. 1SA 11:11 With the Lord's blessing, Saul and his men cut down the Ammonites. 1SA 14:31 Jonathan and his men strike down the Philistines. 1SA 14:48 Saul smites the Amalekites. 1SA 15:3 , 7-8 "This is what the Lord says: Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have; do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass ....' And Saul ... utterly destroyed all the people with the edge of the sword." 1SA 15:33 "Samuel hewed Agag in pieces before the Lord ...." 1SA 18:7 The women sing as they make merry: "Saul has slain his thousands and David his ten thousands." 1SA 27:8-11 "David left neither man nor woman alive ....". (Note: This implies that children and infants were included in the slaughter.) 1SA 30:17 David smites the Amalekites. 2SA 2:23 Abner kills Asahel. 2SA 3:30 Joab and Abishai kill Abner. 2SA 4:7-8 Rechan and Baanah kill Ish-bosheth, behead him, and take his head to David. 2SA 4:12 David has Rechan and Baanah killed, their hands and feet cut off, and their bodies hanged by the pool at Hebron. 2SA 5:25 "And David did as the Lord commanded him, and smote the Philistines ...." 2SA 6:2-23 Because she rebuked him for having exposed himself, Michal (David's wife) was barren throughout her life. 2SA 8:1-18 (A listing of some of David's murderous conquests.) 2SA 8:4 David hamstrung all but a few of the horses. 2SA 8:5 David slew 22,000 Syrians. 2SA 8:6 , 14 "The Lord gave victory to David wherever he went." 2SA 8:13 David slew 18,000 Edomites in the valley of salt and made the rest slaves. 2SA 10:18 David slew 47,000+ Syrians. 2SA 11:14-27 David has Uriah killed so that he can marry Uriah's wife, Bathsheba. 2SA 12:1 , 19 The Lord strikes David's child dead for the sin that David has committed. 2SA 13:1-15 Amnon loves his sister Tamar, rapes her, then hates her. 2SA 13:28-29 Absalom has Amnon murdered. 2SA 18:6 -7 20,000 men are slaughtered at the battle in the forest of Ephraim. 2SA 18:15 Joab's men murder Absalom. 2SA 20:10-12 Joab's men murder Amasa and leave him "... wallowing in his own blood in the highway. And anyone who came by, seeing him, stopped." 2SA 24:15 The Lord sends a pestilence on Israel that kills 70,000 men. 1KI 2:24-25 Solomon has Adonijah murdered. 1KI 2:29-34 Solomon has Joab murdered. 1KI 2:46 Solomon has Shime-i murdered. 1KI 13:15-24 A man is killed by a lion for eating bread and drinking water in a place where the Lord had previously told him not to. This is in spite of the fact that the man had subsequently been lied to by a prophet who told the man that an angel of the Lord said that it would be alright to eat and drink there. 1KI 20:29-30 The Israelites smite 100,000 Syrian soldiers in one day. A wall falls on 27,000 remaining Syrians. 2KI 1:10-12 Fire from heaven comes down and consumes fifty men. 2KI 2:23-24 Forty-two children are mauled and killed, presumably according to the will of God, for having jeered at a man of God. 2KI 5:27 Elisha curses Gehazi and his descendants forever with leprosy. 2KI 6:18-19 The Lord answers Elisha's prayer and strikes the Syrians with blindness. Elisha tricks the blind Syrians and leads them to Samaria. 2KI 6:29 "So we cooked my son and ate him. The next day I said to her, 'Give up your son so we may eat him,' but she had hidden him." 2KI 9:24 Jehu tricks and murders Joram. 2KI 9:27 Jehu has Ahaziah killed. 2KI 9:30-37 Jehu has Jezebel killed. Her body is trampled by horses. Dogs eat her flesh so that only her skull, feet, and the palms of her hands remain. 2KI 10:7 Jehu has Ahab's seventy sons beheaded, then sends the heads to their father. 2KI 10:14 Jehu has forty-two of Ahab's kin killed. 2KI 10:17 "And when he came to Samaria, he slew all that remained to Ahab in Samaria, till he had wiped them out, according to the word of the Lord ...." 2KI 10:19-27 Jehu uses trickery to massacre the Baal worshippers. 2KI 11:1 Athaliah destroys all the royal family. 2KI 14:5 , 7 Amaziah kills his servants and then 10,000 Edomites. 2KI 15:3-5 Even though he did what was right in the eyes of the Lord, the Lord smites Azariah with leprosy for not having removed the "high places." 2KI 15:16 Menahem ripped open all the women who were pregnant. 2KI 19:35 An angel of the Lord kills 185,000 men. 1CH 20:3 (KJV) "And he brought out the people that were in it, and cut them with saws, and with harrows of iron, and with axes." 2CH 13:17 500,000 Israelites are slaughtered. 2CH 21:4 Jehoram slays all his brothers. PS 137:9 Happy will be the man who dashes your little ones against the stones. PS 144:1 God is praised as the one who trains hands for war and fingers for battle. IS 13:15 "Everyone who is captured will be thrust through; all who are caught will fall by the sword. Their infants will be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their ... wives will be ravished." IS 13:18 "Their bows also shall dash the young men to pieces; and they shall have no pity on the fruit of the womb; their eye shall not spare children." IS 14:21-22 "Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers." IS 49:26 The Lord will cause the oppressors of the Israelite's to eat their own flesh and to become drunk on their own blood as with wine. JE 16:4 "They shall die grievous deaths; they shall not be lamented; neither shall they be buried; but they shall be as dung upon the face of the earth: and they shall be consumed by the sword, and by famine; and their carcasses shall be meat for the fowls of heaven, and for the beasts of the earth." LA 4:9-10 "Those slain by the sword are better off than those who die of famine; racked with hunger, they waste away for lack of food. ... pitiful women have cooked their own children, who became their food ..." EZ 6:12-13 The Lord says: "... they will fall by the sword, famine and plague. He that is far away will die of the plague, and he that is near will fall by the sword, and he that survives and is spared will die of famine. So will I spend my wrath upon them. And they will know I am the Lord, when the people lie slain among their idols around their altars, on every high hill and on all the mountaintops, under every spreading tree and every leafy oak ...." EZ 9:4-6 The Lord commands: "... slay old men outright, young men and maidens, little children and women ...." EZ 20:26 In order that he might horrify them, the Lord allowed the Israelites to defile themselves through, amongst other things, the sacrifice of their first-born children. EZ 21:3-4 The Lord says that he will cut off both the righteous and the wicked that his sword shall go against all flesh. EZ 23:25 , 47 God is going to slay the sons and daughters of those who were whores. EZ 23:34 "You shall ... pluck out your hair, and tear your breasts." HO 13:16 "They shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up." MI 3:2-3 "... who pluck off their skin ..., and their flesh from off their bones; Who also eat the flesh of my people, and flay their skin from off them; and they break their bones, and chop them in pieces, as for the pot, and as flesh within the caldron." MT 3:12 , 8:12 , 10:21 , 13:30 , 42, 22:13 , 24:51 , 25:30 , LK 13:28 , JN 5:24 Some will spend eternity burning in Hell. There will be weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth. MT 10:21 "... the brother shall deliver up his brother to death, and the father his child, ... children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death." MT 10:35-36 "For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law a man's enemies will be the members of his own family." MT 11:21-24 Jesus curses [the inhabitants of] three cities who were not sufficiently impressed with his great works. AC 13:11 Paul purposefully blinds a man (though not permanently)

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Re: Why Muslims Should Never Have To Apologize For Terrorism - By Omar Alnatour by Raintaker(m): 3:01pm On Feb 10, 2017
ragiluhivo:
Quran (2:191-193) Several versions

Yusuf Ali: And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith.

Muhammad Sarwar: Slay them wherever you may catch them and expel them from the place from which they expelled you. The sin of disbelief in God is greater than committing murder. Do not fight them in the vicinity of the Sacred Mosque in Mecca unless they start to fight. Then slay them for it is the recompense that the disbelievers deserve.

Arberry:
And slay them wherever you come upon them, and expel them from where they expelled you; persecution is more grievous than slaying. But fight them not by the Holy Mosque until they should fight you there; then, if they fight you, slay them -- such is the recompense of unbelievers --
what you posted makes no sense to me
Slay what/Slay who?
Animals, jinns, humans?

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Re: Why Muslims Should Never Have To Apologize For Terrorism - By Omar Alnatour by Sikay19(m): 3:10pm On Feb 10, 2017
falopey:


Of course there are similarities between the old testament of the bible and Quran. Hence the verses you are talking about. The old testament was the Jewish scripture before Jesus came. The new testament is the scripture of Christians because that's where you see the life lived by Jesus and his teachings. The coming of Jesus was like a revolution to make changes to those heinous laws of the old testament.

Of course Christians cannot throw away the old testament because Judaism gave birth to Christianity and because of other good virtues in the old testament that are still not in conflict with Jesus teachings that good Christians need to imbibe.

So the pivot point of Christianity centers around the new and not the old testament because that is where Jesus started is ministries and where you see it. That is why you don't see Christians acting out the violent verses like Muslims do because it's iin conflict with the teaching of Jesus whom they follow.

Old testament is for Christians to know where they were coming from and new testament is to know where they are. So those kind of verse do not hold water in today's new testament Christianity. But for Muslims, why have you guy refused to move away from your barbaric pass. You are still stuck to it and thats what we are seeing today.

Before we say jack, you will be pointing fingers at crusades of centuries ago. A crusade that only existed in Europe and Jerusalem to defend them against the external jihadist aggressors moving around the world to destroy their civilization and enforce Islamic rule.

If you are only supposed to fight back those who fight you when it's a matter of life to life, how about insulting islam? Becsuse so many people have been killed for that reason alone. How does that endanger your life. How did Islam get to be established iin every country it is today. Is it because those people came to mecca to fight you? No, you brought jihad to them and give them Islam with the edge of the word.

Jihad/killing of non Muslims because they hold a different faith still continue iin Muslim countries today. Of course you cannot wage jihad against the whole world and kill everyone because we are in the 21st century and western countries will meet force with force and defeat external jihad aggressors. But nevertheless, book haram, Isis, Fulani herdsmen are still doing a good job in that direction.

The true meaning of jihad as seen practiced centuries ago and which still continue to this present time is now such a shameful thing to associate with in this modern dispensation to an extent that the Muslims are now giving it a different coloration that it doesn't mean killing of "infidel" just because they are not Muslims.

I don't have interest in all your writeup but why do you Christians rejects Old testament bible as your holy book The answer is simple because the old testament goes against your falseful preachings. No wonder someone said that Christianity is a joke because it comprises of figmented piece of lies.

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Re: Why Muslims Should Never Have To Apologize For Terrorism - By Omar Alnatour by umrash(m): 3:12pm On Feb 10, 2017
If u hate Islam & Muslims then kill urself b4 u will always be surrounded by Muslims as far as u remain alive idiots

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Re: Why Muslims Should Never Have To Apologize For Terrorism - By Omar Alnatour by umrash(m): 3:13pm On Feb 10, 2017
If u hate Islam & Muslims then kill urself because u will always be surrounded by Muslims as far as u remain alive idiots

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Re: Why Muslims Should Never Have To Apologize For Terrorism - By Omar Alnatour by Sikay19(m): 3:15pm On Feb 10, 2017
I can see a lot of critics unfolding here by Christians . but why do Christians so much hate the truth. The actual problem of the we world is sentiment and not religion. The world would be peaceful place for all if we clear of sentiments and hatred.

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Re: Why Muslims Should Never Have To Apologize For Terrorism - By Omar Alnatour by Nobody: 3:19pm On Feb 10, 2017
first and foremost I'm an unapologetic Muslim and I would never apologize on behalf of any act of terrorism committed by some so called Muslims because it is tantamount to me admitting to a crime I didn't committed.

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Re: Why Muslims Should Never Have To Apologize For Terrorism - By Omar Alnatour by kellybently(m): 3:30pm On Feb 10, 2017
Wiseandtrue:

These laws were in the old testament. They were meant for Christian and the treatment would also be melted to Christian and not other religion.


Those days God hardly speak directly to His people except in extreme cases. So the leaders were give guilelines (laws) applicable to each offence.

However the distance between Christ and Christians were mended thus in the new testament peace, love was preached more.


Nobody in his or her right senses would support the shedding of blood, can you create that being R
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nobody ll support shedding of blood. but let get something right. because Abdullah commit and act of killing people those not mean is supported by all Muslim.
yesterday evening a guy from iqrwuta in rivers state was fighting with a fulani guy. the guy was begging him to please the guy said he ll burn his motocycle. the rivers man went inside is car bring out cutlass the fulani guy brought out is daga nife. Every body was shouting that fulani man want to kill person. they never say is there brother that first bring out cutlass again.

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Re: Why Muslims Should Never Have To Apologize For Terrorism - By Omar Alnatour by doctorbabs(m): 3:35pm On Feb 10, 2017
PLS CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN THIS CHAPTER PF BIBLE TO ME: MATHEW 10 V 34. 35DO NOT SUPPOSE THAT I HAVE COME TO BRING PEACE BUT SWORD . 35 FOR I HAVE COME TO TURN A MAN AGAINST HIS FATHER. A DAUGHTER AGAINST HER MOTHER, A DAUGHTER IN LAW AGAINST HER MOTHER INLAW, 36 A MAN S ENEMIES WILL BE THE MEMBERS OF HIS OWN HOUSEHOLD.

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Re: Why Muslims Should Never Have To Apologize For Terrorism - By Omar Alnatour by doctorbabs(m): 3:45pm On Feb 10, 2017
Raintaker:

what you posted makes no sense to me
Slay what/Slay who?
Animals, jinns, humans?
.

PLS READ MATHEW 5 V 17. because U PEOPLE REJECTED THE ONE U BELIEVE IS VERY HARD FOR U TO PRACTISE FROM THE OLD TESTAMENT BUT EXTRACTED THE BETTER ONE FROM THE SAME OLD TESTAMENT E.G TITHE, OFFERING and PSALM . STOP BEING AN HYPOCRITE. JESUS SAID DO NOT THINK I HAVE COME TO ABOLISHED THE LAW BUT TO FULFILLED IT
Re: Why Muslims Should Never Have To Apologize For Terrorism - By Omar Alnatour by Nobody: 3:47pm On Feb 10, 2017
Omudia:
Who is ganging up against you? Was it not Muslims that forcefully slaughtered and converted the whole of Turkey? Is it not Muslims that are terrorizing the entire world?

Yes keep repeating that lie to yourself until Muslims bomb each other to oblivion.

Be factual pls. That's why you was sent to school. Don't give us crap here.

Islaam is peace, I tell you. Pls become muslim, my good fellow?!

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Re: Why Muslims Should Never Have To Apologize For Terrorism - By Omar Alnatour by Wiseandtrue(f): 3:59pm On Feb 10, 2017
kellybently:
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nobody ll support shedding of blood. but let get something right. because Abdullah commit and act of killing people those not mean is supported by all Muslim.
yesterday evening a guy from iqrwuta in rivers state was fighting with a fulani guy. the guy was begging him to please the guy said he ll burn his motocycle. [b]the rivers man went inside is car bring out cutlass the fulani guy brought out is daga nife
. Every body was shouting that fulani man want to kill person. they never say is there brother that first bring out cutlass again.

The experience you have just shed is a misunderstanding. Which happens to almost every body even siblings related by blood.
Do they kill each other NO! Except by mistake.

Look, it happened in Akwa Ibom right If the Akwa Ibom guy had brought out dagger and in the cause of your misunderstanding he injured you, his people will not spare him even though the other party is a Fulani. They will not spare the Akwa Ibom guy and that is how it should be.

Same if all Alfa and Imams are publicly, genuinely preaching unity and oneness these violence will stop or reduce drastically! [/b]

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Re: Why Muslims Should Never Have To Apologize For Terrorism - By Omar Alnatour by Nobody: 4:22pm On Feb 10, 2017
Sikay19:
I can see a lot of critics unfolding here by Christians .[s] but why do Christians so much hate the truth[/s]. The actual problem of the we world is sentiment and not religion. The world would be peaceful place for all if we clear of sentiments and hatred.
Excellent piece of word. But i disagree with the part u mentioned about xtians hate towards truth.

I keep saying this, Religion is the cause of war amongst humans. A society free from religion accommodates a great population of Peace amongst humans. The period we realise this, humans can cohabitate peacefully without fear of the unknown.
Re: Why Muslims Should Never Have To Apologize For Terrorism - By Omar Alnatour by gawu1: 5:00pm On Feb 10, 2017
lovat:
You will continue to pay out $10,000 until you go broke because a lot of verses in the quran promotes killing of infidels
He has said each one you produce wins you 10,000. Why not you produce as many as possible and become rich while he goes broke? It's simple!

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Re: Why Muslims Should Never Have To Apologize For Terrorism - By Omar Alnatour by gawu1: 5:47pm On Feb 10, 2017
falopey:


Of course there are similarities between the old testament of the bible and Quran. Hence the verses you are talking about. The old testament was the Jewish scripture before Jesus came. The new testament is the scripture of Christians because that's where you see the life lived by Jesus and his teachings. The coming of Jesus was like a revolution to make changes to those heinous laws of the old testament.

Of course Christians cannot throw away the old testament because Judaism gave birth to Christianity and because of other good virtues in the old testament that are still not in conflict with Jesus teachings that good Christians need to imbibe.

So the pivot point of Christianity centers around the new and not the old testament because that is where Jesus started is ministries and where you see it. That is why you don't see Christians acting out the violent verses like Muslims do because it's iin conflict with the teaching of Jesus whom they follow.

Old testament is for Christians to know where they were coming from and new testament is to know where they are. So those kind of verse do not hold water in today's new testament Christianity. But for Muslims, why have you guy refused to move away from your barbaric pass. You are still stuck to it and thats what we are seeing today.

Before we say jack, you will be pointing fingers at crusades of centuries ago. A crusade that only existed in Europe and Jerusalem to defend them against the external jihadist aggressors moving around the world to destroy their civilization and enforce Islamic rule.

If you are only supposed to fight back those who fight you when it's a matter of life to life, how about insulting islam? Becsuse so many people have been killed for that reason alone. How does that endanger your life. How did Islam get to be established iin every country it is today. Is it because those people came to mecca to fight you? No, you brought jihad to them and give them Islam with the edge of the word.

Jihad/killing of non Muslims because they hold a different faith still continue iin Muslim countries today. Of course you cannot wage jihad against the whole world and kill everyone because we are in the 21st century and western countries will meet force with force and defeat external jihad aggressors. But nevertheless, book haram, Isis, Fulani herdsmen are still doing a good job in that direction.

The true meaning of jihad as seen practiced centuries ago and which still continue to this present time is now such a shameful thing to associate with in this modern dispensation to an extent that the Muslims are now giving it a different coloration that it doesn't mean killing of "infidel" just because they are not Muslims.
You have said ''That is why you don't see Christians acting out the violent verses like Muslims do because it's iin conflict with the teaching of Jesus whom they follow.''
If you can answer these few questions with all sincerity:
From which religion were those that masterminded over 400 yrs slave trade in Africa which caused not less 30million death in the continent?
From which religion were the cause and masterminders of the first world war which caused death of less 20million people?
From which religion were the caused and masterminders of the WWII which caused death of over 30million people?
Were muslims that killed over 10million Jews between 1939 & 1943?
Those that threw first over and last ever seen devastating atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were muslims?
Incineration of over 6million jews were done by muslims?

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Re: Why Muslims Should Never Have To Apologize For Terrorism - By Omar Alnatour by Misterdhee1(m): 6:19pm On Feb 10, 2017
Bujumbura:
Tell it to that prophet that married a juvenile and encouraged his followers to do such
What age was the Holy Mary deflowered by the Holy Spirit?

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Re: Why Muslims Should Never Have To Apologize For Terrorism - By Omar Alnatour by Sikay19(m): 6:34pm On Feb 10, 2017
FuckBuhari:
Excellent piece of word. But i disagree with the part u mentioned about xtians hate towards truth.

I keep saying this, Religion is the cause of war amongst humans. A society free from religion accommodates a great population of Peace amongst humans. The period we realise this, humans can cohabitate peacefully without fear of the unknown.
I like your sensible approach and I understand your point here. I never meant to attack anyone here but I could see bulks of hateful and in unwholly comments here which brought me to that conclusion. however peace is what we need in every aspects to run the world smoothly and hazzlefree.. God bless!

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Re: Why Muslims Should Never Have To Apologize For Terrorism - By Omar Alnatour by drakeli: 6:53pm On Feb 10, 2017
gawu1:

You have said ''That is why you don't see Christians acting out the violent verses like Muslims do because it's iin conflict with the teaching of Jesus whom they follow.''
If you can answer these few questions with all sincerity:
From which religion were those that masterminded over 400 yrs slave trade in Africa which caused not less 30million death in the continent?
From which religion were the cause and masterminders of the first world war which caused death of less 20million people?
From which religion were the caused and masterminders of the WWII which caused death of over 30million people?
Were muslims that killed over 10million Jews between 1939 & 1943?
Those that threw first over and last ever seen devastating atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were muslims?
Incineration of over 6million jews were done by muslims?

He should be able to answer you not until you know how to draw a line between politically\economically motivated issues and religiously motivated issues. Non of those was perpetrated as a result of a lesson or motivation drawn from a religion like Muslim terrorists do.

You talk of slavery. Muslim world started slavery centuries before Europeans and it still continues iin the middle east today.

For the world wars. Go back to your research. Islamic countries had their allies iin the ww1 and ww2. Turkey supported and fought in the frontline of Germany during ww1 and 2 Other muslim countries too fought for the Western allies, UK and US. You are so less informed to think it only Western countries alone that fought the war. Middle east countries supported countries they thought would benefit them.

Google can help you know the reason why Hitler hated the Jews. It's economical and not religious. Jews controlled the economy of Germany from small businesses to large corporations and very influential and rich while native German s were poor and suffering. This was the beginning of Hitler prejudice against the Jews.

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Re: Why Muslims Should Never Have To Apologize For Terrorism - By Omar Alnatour by Nobody: 7:11pm On Feb 10, 2017
Sikay19:

I like your sensible approach and I understand your point here. I never meant to attack anyone here but I could see bulks of hateful and in unwholly comments here which brought me to that conclusion. however peace is what we need in every aspects to run the world smoothly and hazzlefree.. God bless!
bless u too bro... We are one, and we shall continue to be one. #peace

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Re: Why Muslims Should Never Have To Apologize For Terrorism - By Omar Alnatour by kellybently(m): 7:25pm On Feb 10, 2017
Wiseandtrue:

The experience you have just shed is a misunderstanding. Which happens to almost every body even siblings related by blood.
Do they kill each other NO! Except by mistake.

Look, it happened in Akwa Ibom right If the Akwa Ibom guy had brought out dagger and in the cause of your misunderstanding he injured you, his people will not spare him even though the other party is a Fulani. They will not spare the Akwa Ibom guy and that is how it should be.

Same if all Alfa and Imams are publicly, genuinely preaching unity and oneness these violence will stop or reduce drastically!


go to the west and see unity between Christian and Muslim. is only in the north, South south and eastern u ll experience discrimination.

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Re: Why Muslims Should Never Have To Apologize For Terrorism - By Omar Alnatour by Caseless: 4:32am On Feb 11, 2017
falopey:


Of course there are similarities between the old testament of the bible and Quran. Hence the verses you are talking about. The old testament was the Jewish scripture before Jesus came. The new testament is the scripture of Christians because that's where you see the life lived by Jesus and his teachings. The coming of Jesus was like a revolution to make changes to those heinous laws of the old testament.

Of course Christians cannot throw away the old testament because Judaism gave birth to Christianity and because of other good virtues in the old testament that are still not in conflict with Jesus teachings that good Christians need to imbibe.

So the pivot point of Christianity centers around the new and not the old testament because that is where Jesus started is ministries and where you see it. That is why you don't see Christians acting out the violent verses like Muslims do because it's iin conflict with the teaching of Jesus whom they follow.

Old testament is for Christians to know where they were coming from and new testament is to know where they are. So those kind of verse do not hold water in today's new testament Christianity. But for Muslims, why have you guy refused to move away from your barbaric pass. You are still stuck to it and thats what we are seeing today.

Before we say jack, you will be pointing fingers at crusades of centuries ago. A crusade that only existed in Europe and Jerusalem to defend them against the external jihadist aggressors moving around the world to destroy their civilization and enforce Islamic rule.

If you are only supposed to fight back those who fight you when it's a matter of life to life, how about insulting islam? Becsuse so many people have been killed for that reason alone. How does that endanger your life. How did Islam get to be established iin every country it is today. Is it because those people came to mecca to fight you? No, you brought jihad to them and give them Islam with the edge of the word.

Jihad/killing of non Muslims because they hold a different faith still continue iin Muslim countries today. Of course you cannot wage jihad against the whole world and kill everyone because we are in the 21st century and western countries will meet force with force and defeat external jihad aggressors. But nevertheless, book haram, Isis, Fulani herdsmen are still doing a good job in that direction.

The true meaning of jihad as seen practiced centuries ago and which still continue to this present time is now such a shameful thing to associate with in this modern dispensation to an extent that the Muslims are now giving it a different coloration that it doesn't mean killing of "infidel" just because they are not Muslims.
why do some christians behave like donkeys? So, jesus said you should ignore the old testament right? You have more than 1k spaces the world "kill'' appear in the bible for violent reason, it appear less than a hundred in the qur'an.

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Re: Why Muslims Should Never Have To Apologize For Terrorism - By Omar Alnatour by drakeli: 6:00am On Feb 11, 2017
Caseless:
why do some christians behave like donkeys? So, jesus said you should ignore the old testament right? You have more than 1k spaces the world "kill'' appear in the bible for violent reason, it appear less than a hundred in the qur'an.


The question you need to ask yourself is, why is the first segment of the bible regarded as old while the second segment regarded as new?

Just apply your basic English common sense of "old" and "new". That will help. Maybe I need to help you as well.

Ok...just as an example. When a new edition of a text book is published, it simply means that a lot of changes maybe in science or new discoveries have been added by the author. And some (not all) of the content of the old edition textbook can no more be good enough to make one pass a qualifying examinations.

Mind you, that doesn't mean that the old edition textbook is now completely useless. It's just that some formula and theories in it may no more comply with the latest and new realities and discoveries. Hence the new edition. The new edition may be to totally phase out the old edition or it may be to readdress some issues as contained in the old edition.

So it's not by accident that the bible is segmented into old and new. So the new testament is to address all the terrible and deadly laws of the old testament. Now instead of getting heinous punishment and death for transgression of the law, Jesus now gives forgiveness and new life like in the case of the adulterous woman that they wanted to stone. He told her to sin no more. And that should be the case.We have all committed the same sins worthy of death at least once in our life. But no one caught us in the act to stone us to death. So why should we now be the one to stone others?

Hence Jesus said:
2 Cor 5:17 the old things have passed away; behold all things have become new ...

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Re: Why Muslims Should Never Have To Apologize For Terrorism - By Omar Alnatour by Nobody: 6:39am On Feb 11, 2017
Its you who don't know your facts and history. How was Islam spread in Nigeria? Through killings and forceful conversions.

Your terrorist uthman Dan fodio slaughtered his way through Northern Nigeria.

God forbid, becoming a Muslim is akin to worshipping satan. Why would I leave my sweet loving Jesus and worship satan? God forbid.
RABIUSHILE04:


Be factual pls. That's why you was sent to school. Don't give us crap here.

Islaam is peace, I tell you. Pls become muslim, my good fellow?!
Re: Why Muslims Should Never Have To Apologize For Terrorism - By Omar Alnatour by Caseless: 6:39am On Feb 11, 2017
drakeli:


The question you need to ask yourself is, why is the first segment of the bible regarded as old while the second segment regarded as new?

Just apply your basic English common sense of "old" and "new". That will help. Maybe I need to help you as well.

Ok...just as an example. When a new edition of a text book is published, it simply means that a lot of changes maybe in science or new discoveries have been added by the author. And some (not all) of the content of the old edition textbook can no more be good enough to make one pass a qualifying examinations.

Mind you, that doesn't mean that the old edition textbook is now completely useless. It's just that some formula and theories in it may no more comply with the latest and new realities and discoveries. Hence the new edition. The new edition may be to totally phase out the old edition or it may be to readdress some issues as contained in the old edition.

So it's not by accident that the bible is segmented into old and new.

Hence Jesus said:
2 Cor 5:17 the old things have passed away; behold all things have become new ...
maybe your jesus is confused. Check what he said in the new testament in mathew 5:16-17 KJV . You guys know nothing about your bible.

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Re: Why Muslims Should Never Have To Apologize For Terrorism - By Omar Alnatour by drakeli: 6:46am On Feb 11, 2017
Caseless:
maybe your jesus is confused. Check what he said in the new testament in mathew 5:16-17 KJV . You guys know nothing about your bible.

Put it here what it says instead of quoting number. I checked it. Your quotation is out of the wah. Maybe you wanted to quote a different verse.

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Re: Why Muslims Should Never Have To Apologize For Terrorism - By Omar Alnatour by Aliyu333: 4:50pm On Feb 11, 2017
drakeli:


The question you need to ask yourself is, why is the first segment of the bible regarded as old while the second segment regarded as new?

Just apply your basic English common sense of "old" and "new". That will help. Maybe I need to help you as well.

Ok...just as an example. When a new edition of a text book is published, it simply means that a lot of changes maybe in science or new discoveries have been added by the author. And some (not all) of the content of the old edition textbook can no more be good enough to make one pass a qualifying examinations.

Mind you, that doesn't mean that the old edition textbook is now completely useless. It's just that some formula and theories in it may no more comply with the latest and new realities and discoveries. Hence the new edition. The new edition may be to totally phase out the old edition or it may be to readdress some issues as contained in the old edition.

So it's not by accident that the bible is segmented into old and new. So the new testament is to address all the terrible and deadly laws of the old testament. Now instead of getting heinous punishment and death for transgression of the law, Jesus now gives forgiveness and new life like in the case of the adulterous woman that they wanted to stone. He told her to sin no more. And that should be the case.We have all committed the same sins worthy of death at least once in our life. But no one caught us in the act to stone us to death. So why should we now be the one to stone others?

Hence Jesus said:
2 Cor 5:17 the old things have passed away; behold all things have become new ...
You guys will do whatever and justify whatever to deny old testament, even as far as using an unrelated verse in 2 Corinthians that was talking about new acceptor in jesus and how their old past is washed away.
Mathew 5:18 I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.
Luke 16:17 But it is easier for heaven and earth to disappear than for one dot of the Law to become void.
You guys really need to settle between urselves and the bible.

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