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Nigeria wins: 63% (118 votes)
Egypt wins: 23% (44 votes)
Draw: 12% (24 votes)
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Re: African Nations Cup: Egypt Vs Nigeria - (3-1) by member30(m): 9:16pm On Jan 12, 2010
we in egyptian forum kidding grin

http://forum.kooora.com/f.aspx?t=21286110
Re: African Nations Cup: Egypt Vs Nigeria - (3-1) by flashgeek: 9:17pm On Jan 12, 2010
yawn ,super chickens
Re: African Nations Cup: Egypt Vs Nigeria - (3-1) by MT: 9:20pm On Jan 12, 2010

@asunaobi

A country that its president disappeared into thin air without a word. I wonder the type of encouragement the players went into the pitch with, knowing quite well that there is a very bleak future for our dear country back home. They may not even have a country to return to after the tournament, who knows

Some Nigerians are simply good with words. I love the way this guy puts it. It cracks me up. You should be a comedian. grin grin grin
Re: African Nations Cup: Egypt Vs Nigeria - (3-1) by morpheus24: 9:20pm On Jan 12, 2010
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we r the best african team and also the masters of the continenttongue

go east go west egypt team is the best

I thought you guys were part of the middle east.
make up your minds damn it.
Re: African Nations Cup: Egypt Vs Nigeria - (3-1) by boldblack: 9:22pm On Jan 12, 2010
this forum can be used positively to try changing somethings in our country. Lets try to support one of our coaches to take over from amodu and rebuild the team. Samson Siasia, Stephen Keshi or Sunday Oliseh. These are all no- nonsense men and who can impart discipline and purpose in the team. There's nothing wrong with the players, just the team and the NFA
Re: African Nations Cup: Egypt Vs Nigeria - (3-1) by deb(m): 9:23pm On Jan 12, 2010

I thought you guys were part of the middle east.
make up your minds damn it.

shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked grin grin grin grin grin grin LMAO!
Re: African Nations Cup: Egypt Vs Nigeria - (3-1) by Sagamite(m): 9:23pm On Jan 12, 2010
morpheus24:

I thought you guys were part of the middle east.
make up your minds damn it.

They are part Middle East and part Africa.

Nothing wrong with that.
Re: African Nations Cup: Egypt Vs Nigeria - (3-1) by otokx(m): 9:27pm On Jan 12, 2010
They beat us fair and square
Re: African Nations Cup: Egypt Vs Nigeria - (3-1) by okunoba(m): 9:28pm On Jan 12, 2010
u guys should stop bashing Yakubu, strikers depend on service and this was lacking in the game. Did he get any service, the answer is no. Yakubu is not meant to take the ball from the back or midfield to score, his job is to score when given the right passes. Was he given a good ball in the box? no.

Mikel played well, our  players just don`t mark their players and Taiye Taiwo was the worst at this. We have a terrible goal keeper, he was at fault 4 the first and third goal, the second was due to taiye taiwo`s terrible marking, he could have thrown himself at the ball, I think he just played his last game 4 Nigeria,
The first was a rush of blood from the keeper, running out of his line and missing the ball when a defender was there to deal with the danger. A decent goal keeper would have saved the third strike. Taking out Mikel 4 Kanu was madness, we have a terrible coach but it`s too late to change him.

Those calling 4 Okocha to return have forgoten he was part of the team that failed to qualify 4 the last World cup, the team that did so badly in 2002. Okocha is more of a ball juggler than a thinking footballer.
Re: African Nations Cup: Egypt Vs Nigeria - (3-1) by teeluv(m): 9:28pm On Jan 12, 2010
u knw its funny, we don't have a a team we only have players that play "set" amodu comes to the pitch and tells kanu to pick a player, then kanu picks yobo, yobo then picks mikel because they all play in the premiership and they try not to forget yakubu. after that they look for other players that can fit into their profile. when you have players that earn more than the coach, what do you expect. at least osaze cant pay pounds he earns euros; pounds is higher than euros. when its over they should come home but they should take bus oooh; we still love them. we still need one more embarassment at the world cup in south africa.
NA WAOOH
Re: African Nations Cup: Egypt Vs Nigeria - (3-1) by deb(m): 9:31pm On Jan 12, 2010
this forum can be used positively to try changing somethings in our country. Lets try to support one of our coaches to take over from amodu and rebuild the team. Samson Siasia, Stephen Keshi or Sunday Oliseh. These are all no- nonsense men and who can impart discipline and purpose in the team. There's nothing wrong with the players, just the team and the NFA

My guy welcome to NL. Malawi has proven to us that we don't need super stars to win matches we only need great coaches like Samson
Siasia who can assemble even average player and turn them to a super star winning team
Re: African Nations Cup: Egypt Vs Nigeria - (3-1) by member30(m): 9:33pm On Jan 12, 2010
morpheus24:

I thought you guys were part of the middle east.
make up your minds damn it.

يعنى ايه
i can`t understand ?

M E in africa and asia
Re: African Nations Cup: Egypt Vs Nigeria - (3-1) by Nobody: 9:35pm On Jan 12, 2010
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يعنى ايه
i can`t understand ?

M E in africa and asia

dont mind them, they are just jealous. Up Egypt!
Re: African Nations Cup: Egypt Vs Nigeria - (3-1) by TexMex: 9:36pm On Jan 12, 2010
I 'm glad that some folks here have taken SAGAMITE to task over his vociferous support for AMODU. I 'm also happy SAGAMITE took up the gauntlet and spoke up. That's the caliber of people with strong convictions.

The match has come and gone, but lessons need to be learnt from it. Many of us here shouted ourselves hoarse about how AMODU should not be entrusted with the task of taking us to the NATIONS' CUP and WORLD CUP, but we were inundated with statistics about how AMODU is/was the best for the Super Eagles. I remember commenting then that it would be rather late by the time the[b] REAL[/b] statistics start coming in. Now see the result of the game against EGYPT! Adeboye ONIGBINDE that was said to have taken 'junk' players to the World Cup was never disgraced like this.

A number of previous commentators have written on what needs to be done. I will only add that I pray AMODU does the needful. I will also counsel that AMODU resigns after the NATIONS' CUP (even if he wins it). He shouldn't wait to be fired. The NFF have left things too late. The best thing to have done after the team secured the World Cup and NATIONS' Cup tickets was to have held a meeting with the players and coach, relieve AMODU of his job (giving him a fat pay-off) and recruited a solid coach (local or foreign). As it is, NIGERIA needs a new coach asap. I can only pray he is given the same support as was extended to WESTERHOF. Please no one here should complain that AMODU wasn't given sufficient support. He got it, and more.

After all said and done (and unlike many commentators here), I still wish the SUPER EAGLES well in this tournament, and I believe (with GOD) they can go all the way to the final. Hope NFF and Presidential Task Force didn't pay $30,000 for loss against EGYPT? The team deserves only their appearance fees.
Re: African Nations Cup: Egypt Vs Nigeria - (3-1) by FBS: 9:38pm On Jan 12, 2010
Ladies and Gentlemen it ain't over yet and if I may add, you have just witnessed history. We lost to Egypt for the first time in 47 YEARS!!!

This is the best SE team in a decade. No, seriously. No kidding.  cool
They played a wonderful first half (erm 33 mins to be precise) and later got tired. Please don't blame them. The temperature in Angola is high and the price of fuel has also increased.

Our defense marshaled by the able Yobo was so tight it was very hard for the opponent to infiltrate. Forget three goals conceeded for it does not matter.

Our left back position was so effective Taiwo deserves an award.

Our midfield so efficient we played with 3 DMs at a go. Little wonder the most effective of them was taken off for a pair of old legs. No offense to Kanu. He is one of my favourite Nigerian Players.

Our hitman Yakubu was the best player of the pitch so much so he touched the ball only 5 times. Someone said he is out of form and shape. Sorry but I disagree. He is the best we have.

Conclusion: We have the best coach in the world. Thank You Shaibu Amodu.  

PS: I love my country and will continue to support and defend its colors.
The Super Eagles of Nigeria can still win this cup!!!
Re: African Nations Cup: Egypt Vs Nigeria - (3-1) by honeric01(m): 9:41pm On Jan 12, 2010
Losing the first match shouldn't be the criteria to judging the overall performance of the team, they played well in the first half and totally lost it in the second half. by Saturday, we shall see what happens.
Re: African Nations Cup: Egypt Vs Nigeria - (3-1) by lastpage: 9:42pm On Jan 12, 2010
Now, watching Mozambique play Benin Rep., l can not be amazed at the speed, energy and youthfulness of these players.

Now that the passion has cooled down from the loss, let us remove the venom from our comments, let us remove the anger, the abuse and let us just pass our opinion across like civilized adult. That cant be too much to ask.

I know its painful, even more painful to loose like the way we did. Our game lacks imagination

My take:
Coaches have responsibilities, players have responsibilities too.
When a team looses, both the coach and the players have faults and share the blame.

Coach:
*Amodu seems bereft of ideas once things begin to go wrong.
*He seems not to have any tactical input once the eleven players hit the turf. He just sat there growling like an injured lion grin
*Should he still be staying with these aged players (Kanu, Yakubu, Yobo, e.t.c) or should he scout for new talents.
*How sound is the level of his football tactical knowledge? Mind you, l am 100% in favor of local coach but what value has he added on to himself, in the last 8years?
*Selection today seems very poor but then, if truly Odewingwe and Martins are injured, then he can only work with available "materials".

Players:
*Some have passed their "sell-by-date", they have aged and u cant cheat nature. Playing a world class game at 45yrs is not easy!
*Some like Kanu, Yobo, Yakubu, needs to retire (at least from National team) while we still have good memories of them.
*Today, They were lazy, sluggish, slow, over-fed, unadventurous, lack imagination, lack drive and a winning attitude.
*Keeper made a few costly errors (positioning)
*Mikel held too long onto the ball most times, he wanted to impress (or impose) but he was just too slow for positive impact. He needs to learn how to shoot straight, even if it hits the keepers face! Cant remember when last the put the ball in the net; since joining Chelsea, l think overall, his game has depreciated!!
*Taye Taiwo was above average but he has to "recover" whenever he overlaps! Take a cue form Sagna or Gael Clichy of Arsenal
*Forward like was poor generally, they need to sharpen their push but thats a follow-up to a poor midfield.
*Worst of all is the defense-line. Yobo plays the old kind of "Police football" where defenders just need to "swing their legs" at theball! No intelligent play at all. Compare him with others like Gallas, Vanmaleen, Terry, Alonso, e.t.c? I guess his position needs to be reviewed, but where is the replacement?
*Nwaneri and Yussuf are a bit fidgetty, they need to build confidence and use the brain more than they use their muscles. Become intelligently tactical.
*Aside Nsofor up front, the front line was shy and not mobile at all. They are reluctant to even take on leadership and responsibility

Finally, we are reaping what we have sown
*Poor or no planning: When was the last time we invested in developing coaches knowledge? Amodu still using 1990 tactics! grin
*Emergency, fire bridgeable approach to serious matters
*Death and abandonment of Collegiate football like the Principal's cup means we dont have a replacement pool for the likes of Kanu, Yobo, and other Grandpas!
*Lack of investment in football development in terms of football academies
*Chronic corruption in the football (glass  grin ) House. That place stinks to heaven!
*Lack of commitment from the players, a reflection of the corrupt nature of the country.

We  can still address issues and correct the problems but if we keep expecting a different  result while we keep doing the same thing, Coaches are not magicians, right

Recruiting a foreign coach will not solve our problem, as long as we do things the way we do them now, if you doubt, ask Berti of Germany
Even prayer would not help.
God can not be deceived.



BTW: This football matter is not about emotions or casting blames, its about taking corrective, pragmatic actions
Re: African Nations Cup: Egypt Vs Nigeria - (3-1) by honeric01(m): 9:44pm On Jan 12, 2010
this defeat should wake the boys up.
Re: African Nations Cup: Egypt Vs Nigeria - (3-1) by onijogbon(m): 9:45pm On Jan 12, 2010
i've said it before and i'm going to say it again: the U-17 team and their coaching staff that just won a silver medal at the just concluded U-17 tournament should be the ones playing at the moment.

considering those boys were just assembled together in a couple of months, they still performed very well.

these fat fcuks don chop money belle full and could give a rat's yansh weda we win or lose.  

we need players that are hungry to win as well as passionate for the game.  this present U-17 squad fits the bill!
Re: African Nations Cup: Egypt Vs Nigeria - (3-1) by Sauron1: 9:47pm On Jan 12, 2010
I still cannot believe we lost to Egypt without Aboutrieka and Amr Zaki.
What is wrong with us?

What was Enyeama thinking rushing out to challenge Moteeb?
Our display was spineless at best. Amodu is no tactician.
Re: African Nations Cup: Egypt Vs Nigeria - (3-1) by Princek12(m): 9:49pm On Jan 12, 2010
Those players are not fit. They could not chase the ball and players. Yobo is recovering from injury, Martins just had surgery, and many more unfit players. Amodu chose the team because he likes the players and is used to them, not because they have shown any demonstrable proof of match fitness. The funny thing is that you guys will see Amodu take these same players to the world Cup and expect a "miracle."

As a matter of fact, if he had taken six players from the U 17 squad, they would have done a better job than the team today. The players are simply out of shape.
Re: African Nations Cup: Egypt Vs Nigeria - (3-1) by TexMex: 9:51pm On Jan 12, 2010
@honeric01

I don't think we are judging the team (nay AMODU) by the first match of the tournament. A number of us have reached our verdict a long time ago, we are just drawing out results (like in simple maths: 2+2 = 4). In fact, I expect him to win against BENIN and MOZAMBIQUE (that's AMODU's fort: bully and awe small opposition). Forget all the talk about not having world class players. How many World Class players does EGYPT have? It's the technical input that makes all the difference. Our point is: AMODU can't take us places! Forget winning games against minors. When it really counts, AMODU is no match.
Re: African Nations Cup: Egypt Vs Nigeria - (3-1) by Sauron1: 9:52pm On Jan 12, 2010
Princek12:

Those players are not fit. They could not chase the ball and players. Yobo is recovering from injury, Martins just had surgery, and many more unfit players. Amodu chose the team because he likes the players and is used to them, not because they have shown any demonstrable proof of match fitness. The funny thing is that you guys will see Amodu take these same players to the world Cup and expect a "miracle."

As a matter of fact, if he had taken six players from the U 17 squad, they would have done a better job than the team today. The players are simply out of shape.

What formation did we play?
I saw 3 strikers upfront with Mikel pissing around the midfield and holding the ball longer than necessary.
In the 2nd half, the Egyptians outnumbered us in the midfield and they had a live-wire striker in Zidan who gave our back four HELL.
Where was Osaze?
Re: African Nations Cup: Egypt Vs Nigeria - (3-1) by onijogbon(m): 9:56pm On Jan 12, 2010
Princek12:

Those players are not fit. They could not chase the ball and players. Yobo is recovering from injury, Martins just had surgery, and many more unfit players. Amodu chose the team because he likes the players and is used to them, not because they have shown any demonstrable proof of match fitness. The funny thing is that you guys will see Amodu take these same players to the world Cup and expect a "miracle."

As a matter of fact, if he had taken six players from the U 17 squad, they would have done a better job than the team today. The players are simply out of shape.

gbam!  glad i found someone that shares the same thought!
Re: African Nations Cup: Egypt Vs Nigeria - (3-1) by JNdupu: 9:56pm On Jan 12, 2010
Good analysis Lastpage, you have a football brain.

To add, I think we lacked width although the right winger, obinna or whatever was dangerous.  His final ball should be better.  On the other side, I would push Taiwo forward (his defensive lapses are costing too much) and find a good full-back from the lower divisions with more discipline.

I will play Osaze just off the main striker which should be Nsofor not Yak or Uche - too immobile and easily defended against.

Defensively, Nwaneri and Yusuf are liabilities.  how did we end up with them?
Re: African Nations Cup: Egypt Vs Nigeria - (3-1) by 14(m): 9:56pm On Jan 12, 2010
TexMex:

@honeric01

I don't think we are judging the team (nay AMODU) by the first match of the tournament. A number of us have reached our verdict a long time ago, we are just drawing out results (like in simple maths: 2+2 = 4). In fact, I expect him to win against BENIN and MOZAMBIQUE (that's AMODU's fort: bully and awe small opposition). Forget all the talk about not having world class players. How many World Class players does EGYPT have? It's the technical input that makes all the difference. Our point is: AMODU can't take us places! Forget winning games against minors. When it really counts, AMODU is no match.

Nigeria is just going through the rough patch. Soccer has changed, look what happened to Ivory coast yesterday. The problem wit African teams is consistency. Its gonna be tough come 11 June 2010. Its not gonna be an easy ride. Algeria got thumped by Malawi, Nigeria beaten, Ivory Coast could not put ball into the net, South Africa is just a loughing stork. God must help us come World Cup. Teams that have qualified dont impress me.
Re: African Nations Cup: Egypt Vs Nigeria - (3-1) by vikiviko(m): 9:56pm On Jan 12, 2010
The evils days are here again, someone's job is on unfortunately on the line.
Re: African Nations Cup: Egypt Vs Nigeria - (3-1) by FBS: 9:57pm On Jan 12, 2010
~Sauron~:

What formation did we play?
I saw 3 strikers upfront with Mikel pissing around the midfield and holding the ball longer than necessary.
In the 2nd half, the Egyptians outnumbered us in the midfield and they had a live-wire striker in Zidan who gave our back four HELL.
Where was Osaze?
True Mikel was not too good but was way better than his co DMs IMO.
Question is why play with 3 DMs?

Osaze I heard had  sore throat in Durban.
Re: African Nations Cup: Egypt Vs Nigeria - (3-1) by deb(m): 9:57pm On Jan 12, 2010
I 'm glad that some folks here have taken SAGAMITE to task over his vociferous support for AMODU. I 'm also happy SAGAMITE took up the gauntlet and spoke up. That's the caliber of people with strong convictions.

The match has come and gone, but lessons need to be learnt from it. Many of us here shouted ourselves hoarse about how AMODU should not be entrusted with the task of taking us to the NATIONS' CUP and WORLD CUP, but we were inundated with statistics about how AMODU is/was the best for the Super Eagles. I remember commenting then that it would be rather late by the time the REAL statistics start coming in. Now see the result of the game against EGYPT! Adeboye ONIGBINDE that was said to have taken 'junk' players to the World Cup was never disgraced like this.

A number of previous commentators have written on what needs to be done. I will only add that I pray AMODU does the needful. I will also counsel that AMODU resigns after the NATIONS' CUP (even if he wins it). He shouldn't wait to be fired. The NFF have left things too late. The best thing to have done after the team secured the World Cup and NATIONS' Cup tickets was to have held a meeting with the players and coach, relieve AMODU of his job (giving him a fat pay-off) and recruited a solid coach (local or foreign). As it is, NIGERIA needs a new coach asap. I can only pray he is given the same uspport as was extended to WESTERHOF. Please no one here should complain that AMODU wasn't given sufficient support. He got it, and more.

After all said and done (and unlike many commentators here), I still wish the SUPER EAGLES well in this tournament, and I believe (with GOD) they can go all the way to the final. Hope NFF and Presidential Task Force didn't pay $30,000 for loss against EGYPT? The team deserves only their appearance fees.

Fantastic contribution. You are my hero today

@FBS
Ladies and Gentlemen it ain't over yet and if I may add, you have just witnessed history. We lost to Egypt for the first time in 47 YEARS!!!

This is the best SE team in a decade. No, seriously. No kidding.  Cool
They played a wonderful first half (erm 33 mins to be precise) and later got tired. Please don't blame them. The temperature in Angola is high and the price of fuel has also increased.

Our defense marshaled by the able Yobo was so tight it was very hard for the opponent to infiltrate. Forget three goals conceeded for it does not matter.

Our left back position was so effective Taiwo deserves an award.

Our midfield so efficient we played with 3 DMs at a go. Little wonder the most effective of them was taken off for a pair of old legs. No offense to Kanu. He is one of my favourite Nigerian Players.

Our hitman Yakubu was the best player of the pitch so much so he touched the ball only 5 times. Someone said he is out of form and shape. Sorry but I disagree. He is the best we have.

Conclusion: We have the best coach in the world. Thank You Shaibu Amodu.  

You just made my day. The world needs to know how great we are as a team and what a fantastic world class coach we have. He even gave us a new
world recorded losing to Egypt for the first time in 47 YEARS!!!.
Seriously the guy is not bad at all.

this defeat should wake the boys up.

Is that what we need? Trying to wake up in the middle of every tournament while others are busy winning it?
Life is guided by principles, if you violate it you will pay for it and that is what is happening to us. We know the right
thing to do but we will not do it instead we will be busy putting statistics that cannot hold water together; like Amodu not losing any match, not scoring many goals but not conceding much either theory. we close our eyes to the fact that the team won must of its matches more like luck without any meaningful pattern of play.
We simply lack vision and allowed ourselves to be fooled by one nonsense 'statistic'. I bet when we beat Mozambique and Benin by 1-0 each we will say that we have arrived again even if we don't have any team pattern and we scored our goals with individual brilliance like Obasi did today.

Amodu had better bring back the cup?!!! I will break some heads at the airport o shocked shocked grin grin
Re: African Nations Cup: Egypt Vs Nigeria - (3-1) by Sagamite(m): 9:57pm On Jan 12, 2010
okunoba:

u guys should stop bashing Yakubu, strikers depend on service and this was lacking in the game. Did he get any service, the answer is no. Yakubu is not meant to take the ball from the back or midfield to score, his job is to score when given the right passes. Was he given a good ball in the box? no.

Mikel played well, our  players just don`t mark their players and Taiye Taiwo was the worst at this. We have a terrible goal keeper, he was at fault 4 the first and third goal, the second was due to taiye taiwo`s terrible marking, he could have thrown himself at the ball, I think he just played his last game 4 Nigeria,
The first was a rush of blood from the keeper, running out of his line and missing the ball when a defender was there to deal with the danger. A decent goal keeper would have saved the third strike. Taking out Mikel 4 Kanu was madness, we have a terrible coach but it`s too late to change him.

Those calling 4 Okocha to return have forgoten he was part of the team that failed to qualify 4 the last World cup, the team that did so badly in 2002. Okocha is more of a ball juggler than a thinking footballer.

I disagree with you on Yak. He is not mobile enough to even get the passes. Look at Zidan's mobility. Look at Obasi's mobility.

When you are not getting the ball as a striker, be more mobile. It is very easy for a CB to mark a striker that just stands next to him.

You are right on TT, I actually missed that. He should be throwing himself at the ball to block the shot rather than turning his back.
Re: African Nations Cup: Egypt Vs Nigeria - (3-1) by morpheus24: 9:58pm On Jan 12, 2010
oníjògbòn:

i've said it before and i'm going to say it again: the U-17 team and their coaching staff that just won a silver medal at the just concluded U-17 tournament should be the ones playing at the moment.

considering those boys were just assembled together in a couple of months, they still performed very well.

these fat fcuks don chop money belle full and could give a rat's yansh weda we win or lose.  

we need players that are hungry to win as well as passionate for the game.  this present U-17 squad fits the bill!


I agree. how do you motivate old illiterate farts who are clinging on to their remaining years of fitness to get hungry for glory. Fat cats with money in their pockets who see no reason to inspire young lads in Nigeria who idolize them.

I definitely would have put Okoro from the under 17 squad. Though inexperiencend he more that makes up for it in youth, vigour and a agility.
Re: African Nations Cup: Egypt Vs Nigeria - (3-1) by ow11(m): 10:00pm On Jan 12, 2010
Princek12:

Those players are not fit. They could not chase the ball and players. Yobo is recovering from injury, Martins just had surgery, and many more unfit players. Amodu chose the team because he likes the players and is used to them, not because they have shown any demonstrable proof of match fitness. The funny thing is that you guys will see Amodu take these same players to the world Cup and expect a "miracle."

As a matter of fact, if he had taken six players from the U 17 squad, they would have done a better job than the team today. The players are simply out of shape.

The emboldened statement is a hurried one made out of watching your team loose. . .Don't worry the best Nigeria can offer are in Benguela.

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