Re: Rejoinder: The Sorry State Of The Nation Under Buhari by PassingShot(m): 9:32am On Feb 17, 2017 |
zaimeg:
It would have been better neither Buhari nor Jonathan were elected. There were other people on the ballot. Maybe. But reality was either between both. Nigerian electoral success depends on party's popularity. 2 Likes |
Re: Rejoinder: The Sorry State Of The Nation Under Buhari by Nukualofa: 9:33am On Feb 17, 2017 |
PassingShot:
My cubicle office can make me employ you on salary of more than N100k monthly.
You need job? Send your CV to passingshot@gmail.com salary of 100k Don't cause war among your fellow zoneBs because their own take home is 20k ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) 27 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Rejoinder: The Sorry State Of The Nation Under Buhari by hucienda: 9:33am On Feb 17, 2017 |
PassingShot:
It couldn't have been better immediately under PMB. The damage will run its course before things return to normal.
It could have been worse than this if GEJ had been re-elected based on the facts already stated above. Let's just assume for the moment I agree with your second sentence (of which I don't),
To analyse further on the bolded, how long do you think the descent will take before we flatten out and begin the upward trajectory?
This question is very important. 14 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Rejoinder: The Sorry State Of The Nation Under Buhari by PassingShot(m): 9:33am On Feb 17, 2017 |
Nukualofa: Done what? The truth about people like you is that they can't eat their humble pie and tellus that they were deceived by the broom wwielding demons of Change.
Buhari has showed us that you can fail in 1984 and also fail in 2015 and you will be applauded by zoneBs You can't even address a single issue of all those presented. You're just acting like a spoilt kid here. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Rejoinder: The Sorry State Of The Nation Under Buhari by SweetJoystick(m): 9:34am On Feb 17, 2017 |
Nice rejoinder.....but on the war against corruption I'm honestly disappointed because there seems to be some untouchables despite damning evidences of corruption/abuse of office 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Rejoinder: The Sorry State Of The Nation Under Buhari by Nukualofa: 9:35am On Feb 17, 2017 |
PassingShot:
You obviously lack the capacity to even understand my position on Babachir.
Anyway, you're noticed. You can now exit. Ypu are a corruption lover and you are telling me your position about Babachir. Go and sit down and stop selling a London dead wood to us as an Iroko 26 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Rejoinder: The Sorry State Of The Nation Under Buhari by Nukualofa: 9:37am On Feb 17, 2017 |
PassingShot:
You can't even address a single issue of all those presented. You're just acting like a spoilt kid here. I refuse to address anything there because it will be futility on my own part because you have been wired to believed anything this government feeds you Go check Boxer in George Orwell Animal Farm and you will see that you are no different from him. I'd rather call you out until this thread ends in a trash can Nonsense 30 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Rejoinder: The Sorry State Of The Nation Under Buhari by izombie(m): 9:39am On Feb 17, 2017 |
PassingShot: TonyeBarcanista and his crew, I need you guys here. Let's argue! what is wrong with some of you? Yes gej has come and gone but you guys are still on him after 2 years. The 16 years you are referring to, most of the people that were destroying naija in those 16 years are in apc now continuieng their destruction of naija. The problem with this government is not past administration but their policies. Companies have sacked workers or folded up because of buhari and his policies. Other companies have relocated to other countries. You talk about cutting down on costs and spending but i ask you, has buhari cut down on anything? The presidency has been allocated more allowances, the senate and house of representatives have also more allowances. The president that budgeted billions for one hospital in aso rock finds it appropriate to travel to oversea just for check up. The feeding allowance for aso rock is almost 2billion now. The worst part is that these people do not even have any plans on how to solve the problems they have created. No matter how you try to defend and twist these things, buhari is the worst president ever in nigeria. You should be ashamed of yourself for trying to defend this. Buhari has failed woefully. 41 Likes 8 Shares |
Re: Rejoinder: The Sorry State Of The Nation Under Buhari by Nukualofa: 9:41am On Feb 17, 2017 |
hucienda:
Let's just assume for the moment I agree with your second sentence (of which I don't),
To analyse further on the bolded, how long do you think the descent will take before we flatten out and begin the upward trajectory?
This question is very important. Bros leave that man, na for morning dem take know pikin wey go crawl. Buhari no dey make move at all. D mumu just dey put us more into more economic trouble that we go end up becoming Niger and Chad citizens soon. See if you get family you go get the jerk wey i dey yarn Buhari dey F big time 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Rejoinder: The Sorry State Of The Nation Under Buhari by Nukualofa: 9:43am On Feb 17, 2017 |
izombie: what is wrong with some of you? Yes gej has come and gone but you guys are still on him after 2 years. The 16 years you are referring to, most of the people that were destroying naija in those 16 years are in apc now continuieng their destruction of naija. The problem with this government is not past administration but their policies. Companies have sacked workers or folded up because of buhari and his policies. Other companies have relocated to other countries. You talk about cutting down on costs and spending but i ask you, has buhari cut down on anything? The presidency has been allocated more allowances, the senate and house of representatives have also more allowances. The president that budgeted billions for one hospital in aso rock finds it appropriate to travel to oversea just for check up. The feeding allowance for aso rock is almost 2billion now. The worst part is that these people do not even have any plans on how to solve the problems they have created. No matter how you try to defend and twist these things, buhari is the worst president ever in nigeria. You should be ashamed of yourself for trying to defend this. Buhari has failed woefully. I've stopped joining issues with him because he is immune to the problem here. There is no end in sight to this economic conodrum and some idiots are celebrating that London deadwood. Cc anonimi SalmanRushdie Wiseandtrue 11 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Rejoinder: The Sorry State Of The Nation Under Buhari by tawa89(f): 9:45am On Feb 17, 2017 |
This one is dry...I prefer Barcanista's own . 14 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Rejoinder: The Sorry State Of The Nation Under Buhari by Achuwa1(m): 9:46am On Feb 17, 2017 |
Op opened a thread tht has turned around to hunt him... ![angry](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/angry.png) 7 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Rejoinder: The Sorry State Of The Nation Under Buhari by Nukualofa: 9:51am On Feb 17, 2017 |
tawa89: This one is dry...I prefer Barcanista's own . The only reason it's dry is because the thing he wrote there is different from the reality on the ground 13 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Rejoinder: The Sorry State Of The Nation Under Buhari by zaimeg: 9:51am On Feb 17, 2017 |
izombie: what is wrong with some of you? Yes gej has come and gone but you guys are still on him after 2 years. The 16 years you are referring to, most of the people that were destroying naija in those 16 years are in apc now continuieng their destruction of naija. The problem with this government is not past administration but their policies. Companies have sacked workers or folded up because of buhari and his policies. Other companies have relocated to other countries. You talk about cutting down on costs and spending but i ask you, has buhari cut down on anything? The presidency has been allocated more allowances, the senate and house of representatives have also more allowances. The president that budgeted billions for one hospital in aso rock finds it appropriate to travel to oversea just for check up. The feeding allowance for aso rock is almost 2billion now. The worst part is that these people do not even have any plans on how to solve the problems they have created. No matter how you try to defend and twist these things, buhari is the worst president ever in nigeria. You should be ashamed of yourself for trying to defend this. Buhari has failed woefully. He doesn't live in Nigeria. 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Rejoinder: The Sorry State Of The Nation Under Buhari by izombie(m): 10:00am On Feb 17, 2017 |
zaimeg:
He doesn't live in Nigeria. i don't live in nigeria also but i visit all the time and i follow the happenings back home. I was home this xmas and i've never ever seen the kind of hopeless and helpless signs on people's faces. Whats happening in nigeria is even good for me especially the exchange rate but i can't just ignore what the people back home must be going through. I do have a conscience. 23 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: Rejoinder: The Sorry State Of The Nation Under Buhari by PassingShot(m): 10:26am On Feb 17, 2017 |
Nukualofa: salary of 100k
Don't cause war among your fellow zoneBs because their own take home is 20k ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) A cleaner in my workplace earns more than N200k in naira. You need job? 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Rejoinder: The Sorry State Of The Nation Under Buhari by PassingShot(m): 10:30am On Feb 17, 2017 |
izombie: what is wrong with some of you? Yes gej has come and gone but you guys are still on him after 2 years. The 16 years you are referring to, most of the people that were destroying naija in those 16 years are in apc now continuieng their destruction of naija. The problem with this government is not past administration but their policies. Companies have sacked workers or folded up because of buhari and his policies. Other companies have relocated to other countries. You talk about cutting down on costs and spending but i ask you, has buhari cut down on anything? The presidency has been allocated more allowances, the senate and house of representatives have also more allowances. The president that budgeted billions for one hospital in aso rock finds it appropriate to travel to oversea just for check up. The feeding allowance for aso rock is almost 2billion now. The worst part is that these people do not even have any plans on how to solve the problems they have created. No matter how you try to defend and twist these things, buhari is the worst president ever in nigeria. You should be ashamed of yourself for trying to defend this. Buhari has failed woefully. You want to wish away the facts that GEJ was a disaster that shouldn't have been allowed to happen. It won't work. The Ineffectual Buffoon brought today's calamity on us. It's not about who looted per se. It's more about him not being in control to prevent the looting by his fellow thieving gang including his wife. 4 Likes |
Re: Rejoinder: The Sorry State Of The Nation Under Buhari by Ngokafor(f): 10:30am On Feb 17, 2017 |
zaimeg:
He doesn't live in Nigeria. ...Exactly!!..@all,Passingshot does not live in Nigeria 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Rejoinder: The Sorry State Of The Nation Under Buhari by PassingShot(m): 10:32am On Feb 17, 2017 |
hucienda:
Let's just assume for the moment I agree with your second sentence (of which I don't),
To analyse further on the bolded, how long do you think the descent will take before we flatten out and begin the upward trajectory?
This question is very important. How long it takes the economy to exit recession depends on some policies and strict adherence to them. The good news is there are positive growth in some part of the economy already and that indicated aan upward journey out of recession. 2 Likes |
Re: Rejoinder: The Sorry State Of The Nation Under Buhari by Nukualofa: 10:33am On Feb 17, 2017 |
PassingShot:
A cleaner in my workplace earns more than N200k in naira. You need job? sarrki shakazullu cheruv unclezuma come and join me to laugh Where is Freeglobe and LasGidiowner my laughing companions ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) 15 Likes 3 Shares
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Re: Rejoinder: The Sorry State Of The Nation Under Buhari by PassingShot(m): 10:33am On Feb 17, 2017 |
tawa89: This one is dry...I prefer Barcanista's own . Because you're a defender of corruption. No surprises. 4 Likes |
Re: Rejoinder: The Sorry State Of The Nation Under Buhari by PassingShot(m): 10:34am On Feb 17, 2017 |
Ngokafor:
...Exactly!!..@all,Passingshot does not live in Nigeria How is that a problem? 2 Likes |
Re: Rejoinder: The Sorry State Of The Nation Under Buhari by Naughtytboy: 10:40am On Feb 17, 2017 |
Boleyndynasty2: Why do you people feel or see the need to write long epistles about a government / politicians who don't give any fvck about you? Will this long write up change d sorry state of the country?
Young men, speed your time on meaningful worthwhile stuffz not defending something that is totally undefendable( if Ders really any word like that) . zero emotions but you can kiss all day., |
Re: Rejoinder: The Sorry State Of The Nation Under Buhari by Ngokafor(f): 10:42am On Feb 17, 2017 |
PassingShot:
How is that a problem? ...Well it makes you totally clueless,out-of-touch and insensitive to the plight of Nigerians..If you lost your job or had your salary slashed in two and on top of that have to pay double and triple of every single items since buhari came on board(like its the lot of Nigerians living in Nigeria now)..you wont be yapping like you and your cohorts do here. ..Wicked folks. 22 Likes 6 Shares |
Re: Rejoinder: The Sorry State Of The Nation Under Buhari by Bayswater: 10:42am On Feb 17, 2017 |
Passingshot, will you and your BMC colleagues keep kwayet! Your messiah was elected to fix the alleged mess left behind but you are still here screaming jonathan this, Jonathan that, are you well at all? Please, it's time to do away with the Buhari Media Centre's memory verse of Jonathan destroyed Nigeria. Do you think everyone is as useless and dull as you lot? You are very nauseating, man. 21 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: Rejoinder: The Sorry State Of The Nation Under Buhari by repogirl(f): 10:42am On Feb 17, 2017 |
*yawns* This OP's essay is longer than the whole encyclopedia.
I bet there's not one ounce of truth or realism in it since a Zombie conjured it up. Just lies, baseless theories and more lies. Can't waste my time reading rubbish...
Where is Tonto news abeg? Lala Pls do the needful. 17 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Rejoinder: The Sorry State Of The Nation Under Buhari by ephi123(f): 10:44am On Feb 17, 2017 |
GEJ this, GEJ that. You guys can't think straight without mentioning GEJ. There was rot in GEJ's administration, is that not why Nigerians voted for CHANGE? Irresponsible government and irresponsible defenders. 14 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Rejoinder: The Sorry State Of The Nation Under Buhari by rozayx5(m): 10:45am On Feb 17, 2017 |
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Re: Rejoinder: The Sorry State Of The Nation Under Buhari by hucienda: 10:45am On Feb 17, 2017 |
PassingShot:
How long it takes the economy to exit recession depends on some policies and strict adherence to them.
The good news is there are positive growth in some part of the economy already and that indicated aan upward journey out of recession. Positive growth in this economy?? Indications already on an upward journey out of the recession??! Are you related to Joseph Goebbels? Haba take am small small naa.
To tell you how bad things are and somewhat spiraling out of control, one doesn't need an economist to tell him or her to save money in today's Nigeria in HM The Queen's sterling or under the watchful gaze of Benjamin Franklin. 8 Likes |
Re: Rejoinder: The Sorry State Of The Nation Under Buhari by sekem: 10:47am On Feb 17, 2017 |
Gifted with short memory!!!
I love that!!! 1 Like |
Re: Rejoinder: The Sorry State Of The Nation Under Buhari by Nobody: 10:47am On Feb 17, 2017 |
PassingShot: Only if there was honor among thieves!
In response to the thread by TonyeBarcanista, it is important to constantly remind him and those like him who have demonstrated to be gifted with short memory, how and why we are in the sorry state we are.
Without wasting time, let’s liken Nigeria to a young family man who worked for sixteen years on very decent monthly salary of N1,000,000. In the sixteen years he earned N1M monthly, the said man has acquired taste for luxury life, living in a duplex in Ajah Estate with all the good things life could offer. This man was living large and had little or nothing in savings. Then one day, he lost his high-paying job and could only manage to secure another one which offers a third of what he used to earn. His new job only pays N300,000 monthly!
Without being told or advised by anyone, the man must realize that he can no longer house his family in the Ajah duplex they’d lived for sixteen years even if there was savings let alone when there is no reasonable savings. He must therefore scale down on EVERYTHING about his living and that of his family. He will need to change his children’s school. He will need to move into a 2 or 3 bedroom flat in Ikorodu or Agege. He will need to ride a smaller car. If his family used to go on weekly/monthly picnic, that also must stop. His and his family choice of food will change. In fact, he must engage more in DIY (Do It Yourself) than ever before for some tasks. Such man will have no one to blame for needing to scale down on his living except himself!
If we all agree that the man in the example above must cut back on his spending with a lot of sacrifices, there should be no reason why any reasonable person will fail to understand why Nigeria is in the current economic mess or what sacrifices Nigeria must make to weather the storm.
OBJ, with all his flaws, managed to build decent external reserves ($45bn ), created and built the excess crude account (above $20bn) for rainy days and was able to hand over good economy to Yar’Adua. Yar’Adua was on the same trajectory before his creator decided to take him away.
GEJ inherited $47bn in foreign reserves plus another $20bn+ in ECA. During the over five years he spent as president, crude oil which is the major source of income to Nigeria (responsible for more than 90% or our dollar earnings) sold for an average of $100 per barrel, yet the hugely incompetent man from Otuoke found a way to plunge the reserves to an abysmal level of $29bn as at the time of his exit and went on borrowing spree (which was also looted) even when there was no need to. In fact, GEJ and his gang r@ped Nigeria without mercy such that the FG had to borrow money to pay its workers in Nov 2014 and March 2015 just because crude price crashed from $100 to $76 a barrel. Sane minds can only imagine how such regime could have fared, or how much we would have suffered, if they were in charge of our affairs when crude crashed further to $27 a barrel.
Let’s not even talk about the ECA which his supporters will be quick to blame the governors for asking it to be shared. Though they will pretend not to know that the request of the governors made perfect sense for the fact that GEJ and Ngozi were fond of stealing from the account which jointly belonged to the FG and the states, they know in their mind that there argument lacks merit.
Is there anything happening in Nigeria today that was not foreseen, predicted or that we were not warned about? The answer is a resounding NO.
Let us refresh our memory with the warnings and predictions about today’s hardship and economic woes perhaps a few minds will be more objective and more reasonable.
1. OBJ warned Jonathan in Nov 2014: Extracts from the report:
"Sooner or later, the Naira will have to be drastically devalued without any advantage to our one commodity economy but with horrendous disadvantage to already impoverished Nigerians. We will all sink deeper in poverty except for those who have corruptly stashed money abroad and who will start to bring such illegal and illegitimate funds back home to harvest more Naira. All the economic gains of recent years and the rebuild of the middle class may be lost.”
“In the end, more businesses will close down, business men and women, entrepreneurs and investors will incur more debts. Foreign investors may temporarily stop investing in a downturn economy. “Because of the Naira depreciation, workers, particularly in the public sector, will ask for pay increase, which may be justified but will sink us deeper in the swamp. “The scenario, which may sound alarmist, is hard to imagine but the signs are there and it would appear that those who should act are dancing slow foxtrot while their trousers are catching fire”. http://thenationonlineng.net/obasanjo-warns-jonathan-economy-is-in-big-trouble/
2. Sanusi, the then Governor of Central Bank warned too!
“Over 20 billion dollars unremitted to the federation account, and if nothing is done, by 2015 upward Nigeria will know what economic crisis is.”
When he was invited by the Senate to substantiate his claim, he said"
“It is established that out of the 67 billion dollars crude shipped by NNPC between January 2012 and July 2013, $47 billion was remitted to the Federation Account. It is now up to the NNPC to prove that $20 billion unremitted either did not belong to the federation or was legally and constitutionally spent. There is no dispute that $20 billion out of the $67 billion has not been paid into any account with the CBN,” he said. http://icirnigeria.org/sanusi-insists-20-billion-is-missing-nnpc-denies-allegation/
We all know how Sanusi the whistle blower was sacked by the fisherman.
3. Oby Ezekwesili sounded the alarm bell in 2013: “Our reserve is depleted and our savings are squandered. Our nation is in trouble.” She later stated: “The key FACT is that even by the time of that crisis when Soludo had to defend the Naira with our Foreign Reserve, he spent about $15b of it and still left behind about $45b when he departed as Central Bank Governor in 2009!!! Now imagine that since that time oil prices have averaged between $95-$100 per barrel and we export an average of 750 million barrels per annum. How then can the Foreign Reserve only now be starting to grow back to the same size it was in 2009 after such hefty earnings of the last 4 years? The FG numbers do not add up at all and we need to know why! The citizens need an explanation and that’s why I called for accountability. It is simply a patriotic call which should not result in the name calling by officials of government."
http://dailypost.ng/2013/03/08/oby-ezekwesili-now-that-sanusi-lamido-sanusi-has-admitted-fiscal-leakages/
4. Jonathan Lacked Political Will to Save – Ngozi Okonjo Iweala
And madam Gele finally agrees to her and her boss’ gross incompetence by saying:
The former finance minister and World Bank president, who spoke on “inequality, growth and resilience,” with Chile as an example of a country with a saving culture, said:
“We tried it in Nigeria, we put in an oil price based fiscal rule in 2004 and it worked very well. “We saved $22 billion because the political will to do it was there. And when the 2008 /2009 crisis came, we were able to draw on those savings precisely to issue about a five per cent of GDP fiscal stimulus to the economy, and we never had to come to the Bank or the Fund. “This time around and this is the key now, you need not only to have the instrument, but you also need the political will. In my second time as a finance minister, from 2011 to 2015, we had the instrument, we had the means, we had done it before, but zero political will. “So we were not able to save when we should have. That is why you find that Nigeria is now in the situation it is in, along with so many other countries.
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/04/nigeria-had-no-political-will-to-save-under-jonathan-okonjo-iweala/ For the “video or Idontbelieve it” crew, it is available on YouTube as well.
[b]Now that we have seen that today’s economic mess was created by GEJ and his thieving gang, it makes no sense for anyone to blame PMB for the current situation. If anything, PMB deserves commendations for being able to provide bailouts to states owing salaries before he came on board, for being able to provide additional budget support due to reduced allocation to state, for being able to increase our foreign reserves despite that crude price is still at around $50 per barrel, for being able to build roads that those who earned billions in dollars couldn’t touch, for being able to start N-Power project employing hundreds of thousands unemployed youths, for being able to complete abandoned Kaduna-Abuja rail project, for being able to restore life in the NE that was ravaged by Boko Haram due to GEJ’s incompetence, for being able to bring some past looters to justice (Dasuki, Andrew Yakbu, Diezani, Bafarawa, Akpobolokemi, etc), for being able to restore some sanity in our ultra-corrupt judiciary, for ending fuel subsidy scam, for working towards self-sustenance in rice and other staple food production, for working to make Nigeria refine her own crude locally by 2019, etc., etc.[/b]
GEJ and his gang of looters raped Nigeria without using condom or any form of protection. The product of such violation is today’s economic hardship.
Had PMB not become president, Nigeria would have completely failed. I have no doubt about that happening and it’s based on what have now been revealed in the numerous looting of our common wealth.
God Bless PMB/VPYO God Bless Nigeria
Absolutely right. Very true. If you also remember the election saga where that funny man said we will not take it!! Trust me, they are not taking it. The PDP has been in power for years, they have loyalists everywhere. Their loyalists range in the highest sectors of the economy, and when another party rules, they find ways to cripple the economy. Buhari will work oo, but trust me, you wont see or feel the effect. Fashola worked his ass off in Lagos, you and I know this. He also stole, you and i know that. The same man who said power will be restored in 6 months can't even do a thing within a 2yr plan. What is his complain? Pipelines are being destroyed, this and that. Who do you think is doing this? Loyalists. I don't like buhari, neither do I like Jonathan, but we don't need to be blind to know that this write up says the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Rejoinder: The Sorry State Of The Nation Under Buhari by AngelicBeing: 10:49am On Feb 17, 2017 |
madridguy: GOD alone will judge Jonathan. Wetin l do again now, God is judging me already, l am Jonathan, l was a clueless leader, abeg allow me enjoy my retirement, tell Buhari to jail my wife and all PDP thieves, this is ex-clueless President Jonathan, this is my Nairaland account, dont tell anybody ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png)
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