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Re: Why I Believe Stephanie Otobo Is Lying Against Apostle Sulieman by fratermathy(m): 1:30pm On Mar 15, 2017 |
dragonking3: And how do you know she won't provide proof in court? Have you talked to her and she said she has no proof? Stop operating double standards already. Keep your mind open. Anything is a possibility. You can't support the pastor and pride yourself as being neutral. She has provided a snapchat at least. What proof has the so-called "Oracle of God" provided about her being a terrorist and having connections with Boko Haram? Abeg e.! Stop defending pastors and enjoy the drama. |
Re: Why I Believe Stephanie Otobo Is Lying Against Apostle Sulieman by dragonking3: 1:34pm On Mar 15, 2017 |
fratermathy:Then let her do and stop media trial. Cases are not won in YouTube or blogs.. Stop defending a prostitute 1 Like |
Re: Why I Believe Stephanie Otobo Is Lying Against Apostle Sulieman by fratermathy(m): 1:42pm On Mar 15, 2017 |
zegxy: So you have already seen the transactions and other evidences she is holding? If you have them, do share. The ones in public glare include the facetime photo of the pastor smiling with lust at Otobo's breast. They said it was a photoshopped photo but failed to tell us where she got the original faceshot photo from. So now I ask you, since you say it is not incriminating, where did she get the original faceshot of the pastor from if not from the original chat? That photo is not on the Internet else his worshippers would have used it as proof. So where did she get it from? That was certainly his photo. Secondly, he claims to know her as a prostitute and stripper yet conceded to giving her money. Why would he give money arbitrarily to prostitutes and strippers? He didn't even give her the money via the welfare unit of his church but paid personally! At least, he agreed to this so inform me of how this isn't incriminating. Otobo revealed that Okeke was his mistress and the Internet was suddenly saturated with proof of his ownership of a car linked with Okeke. Barely 48 hours later, his name was removed from the website. How do we reconcile this? Is this not suspicious? She has asked him to show us his passport so that we can verify if he was at Naples, Italy, the same time she claimed she was and what was his response? You guessed right, NOTHING! She said she will release more proof but the few we've seen are as incriminating as they can be. I anticipate more revelations but be careful of defending these pastors because you feel the urge to protect their perceived infallibility. We've seen worse happen and the pastor is certainly hiding something. |
Re: Why I Believe Stephanie Otobo Is Lying Against Apostle Sulieman by fratermathy(m): 1:49pm On Mar 15, 2017 |
dragonking3: I am far from defending her. I am against defending the pastor. I keep an open mind in this matter. Otobo has said enough to warrant my belief in her tale. However I am still open to proof of the man's innocence but disappointed at his total avoidance of proving himself innocent. I am familiar with the persecution girls face everyday from pastors and their worshippers and I cannot rule out the possibility of Suleiman's guilt in this matter, however small. All logical minds that are not moved by religious sentiments for the pastor should refrain from defending him when he has not said or done anything to prove himself innocent. The attempts by his Internet worshippers to redeem him from this accusation are laughable and counterproductive. As for the media trial, is is unavoidable especially when the accuser has said so much and provided proof, however miniscule, of her case. We are in an Internet age where people make hasty conclusions on available evidence. The pastor should turn the tides and provide proof of his innocence and Otobo will forever be subjected to ridicule! Otherwise, the pastor remains complicit. Lets not also forget that this is a man whose worshippers and himself did a media trial of El Rufai. Double standards are not acceptable. The Internet never forgets... |
Re: Why I Believe Stephanie Otobo Is Lying Against Apostle Sulieman by Dman00(m): 1:50pm On Mar 15, 2017 |
As my father will say, dn't argue or belief dm say belief what happened when u were present. Bcs anybody can twist a story as yoruba wil say,ti a ba fun were loko odo ara re ni yo ro ko si. 4 diz matter at hand; no comment |
Re: Why I Believe Stephanie Otobo Is Lying Against Apostle Sulieman by Krisddon: 1:59pm On Mar 15, 2017 |
okenwa:Perceived or known enemy? Of course we know it's all El-Rufai's script. |
Re: Why I Believe Stephanie Otobo Is Lying Against Apostle Sulieman by Krisddon: 2:02pm On Mar 15, 2017 |
menxer:From the on set, Suleman and Police admitted he made some cash deposits into her account for sting. |
Re: Why I Believe Stephanie Otobo Is Lying Against Apostle Sulieman by Psoul(m): 2:10pm On Mar 15, 2017 |
fratermathy: Naivety is what i see here. U need to grow ur experience. Ask questions. Dont talk as if u r in an ideal state. |
Re: Why I Believe Stephanie Otobo Is Lying Against Apostle Sulieman by fratermathy(m): 2:13pm On Mar 15, 2017 |
Psoul: And you deflected my observations like a true man worshipper that you are. Please remove the cotton wool in your brain and think for yourself. That man is complicit. The motive of Otobo is a story for another day. |
Re: Why I Believe Stephanie Otobo Is Lying Against Apostle Sulieman by NovusHomo(m): 2:14pm On Mar 15, 2017 |
For a journalist, your use of the english language is poor. There is no plural form for "EVIDENCE". Besides, what new information have you brought forward? All the nonsense you wrote with "logic" has always been clear to a JSS student. 1 Like |
Re: Why I Believe Stephanie Otobo Is Lying Against Apostle Sulieman by fratermathy(m): 2:16pm On Mar 15, 2017 |
Krisddon: Can you provide proof of El Rufai's complicity in this? After all, you worshippers are the ones saying Otobo should provide more proof. She has done her bit in convincing most of us of Suleiman's complicity. So now let Suleiman and his worshippers provide proof of El Rufai's complicity in this matter! You guys think if El Rufai or the government wants Suleiman's head, they'll use a girl or a mere scandal? Mtchewwww! Learn from Nnamdi Kanu's case. |
Re: Why I Believe Stephanie Otobo Is Lying Against Apostle Sulieman by Nobody: 2:17pm On Mar 15, 2017 |
Edwinmason: My brother help me ask them oh. |
Re: Why I Believe Stephanie Otobo Is Lying Against Apostle Sulieman by Alphamale2017(m): 2:21pm On Mar 15, 2017 |
fratermathy:go ask jesus why he was always around mary madalene the prostitute. so prostitutes are not human beings ?? they dont deserve any help ?? okay sir. i hear. what makes u think u are better than them ? self righteous human |
Re: Why I Believe Stephanie Otobo Is Lying Against Apostle Sulieman by grandstar(m): 2:23pm On Mar 15, 2017 |
The sand in the gari is Daniella Okeke She has not bothered to deny allegations against her and rather seems to have gone underground. The wicked flee when there's no one pursuing them (Proverbs 28:1) What's pursuing Okeke 1 Like |
Re: Why I Believe Stephanie Otobo Is Lying Against Apostle Sulieman by fratermathy(m): 2:25pm On Mar 15, 2017 |
Alphamale2017: So prostitutes deserve help instead of the hundreds of poor worshippers the man has abi? He said she's a prostitute. How exactly does a man meet a prostitute? Will a prostitute still in service come to a church and announce her profession openly? The pastor never said he was preaching to her or trying to convert her or make her change her ways. He said instead that he gave her money which Otobo confirmed to be steady and in millions of naira. Why should a pastor give such amount of cash to a random prostitute still in the profession? He even did so personally and not through the welfare unit of his church. He agrees that he knows her and she said her story. Do we automatically believe him because he is a pastor? Is that not hypocrisy? Haba na. Chairman think with your brain. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why I Believe Stephanie Otobo Is Lying Against Apostle Sulieman by Codes151(m): 3:59pm On Mar 15, 2017 |
NwamaziNwaAro:jezzz!!! That's his view! Put up urs or pass away |
Re: Why I Believe Stephanie Otobo Is Lying Against Apostle Sulieman by menxer: 4:14pm On Mar 15, 2017 |
Okuda:Thank God for BVN. |
Re: Why I Believe Stephanie Otobo Is Lying Against Apostle Sulieman by Reaslist2017: 4:16pm On Mar 15, 2017 |
FaceTime screenshot please!! If i may ask have you ever Facetimed? How the hell did they remove the facetime id ??#think She has provided some evidence. She released a picture of the pastor smiling in a facetime chat with Otobo. His wife and worshippers said it was photoshopped photo. Okay. Where did she get his faceshot from to superimpose on the picture for photoshop? That faceshot is not online so where did she get it from if he didn't chat with her truly? Secondly, he claims to have known her as a prostitute and a stripper yet said he helped her with money. Why would a pastor know a prostitute and stripper and send church funds to her directly? He accused her of terrorism and said the government is after him and yet he didn't provide any proof. His worshippers believed him because he is a pastor and ask Otobo to provide more proof. Otobo named Okeke as his mistress only for us to discover a car registered in his name in her garage. Barely 48hours after that, the name vanished and his worshippers couldn't ask questions or raise suspicions on that. Why did his name vanish from the site? Mind you, there is a backup of that site on Internet archive that can be used as proof against him. She named Protea hotel, Naples in Italy, and many other direct references that can easily be verified by the pastor by bringing his passport and obtaining CCTV footage. Even the bank account transactions can easily be verified but the pastor doesn't want to do all that. He simply said the truth will come out in 24 hours. This is 48 hours after his last comment. Otobo interviewed with TVC today and revealed more things. We still haven't heard from the pastor still. What more proof do you want? [/quote] |
Re: Why I Believe Stephanie Otobo Is Lying Against Apostle Sulieman by fratermathy(m): 4:37pm On Mar 15, 2017 |
Reaslist2017: Whether or not I have Facetimed is not the issue. The facetime id is also not the issue. The issue is that his face is on a screenshot of a video chat between him and the lady. If that was a photoshopped photo as his worshippers allege, where did she get the original faceshot from? That faceshot is not a public photo so she must have gotten it from somewhere. The pastor has not come out to defend exactly how she got his photo for a photoshop work. #think! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why I Believe Stephanie Otobo Is Lying Against Apostle Sulieman by sweatlana: 4:45pm On Mar 15, 2017 |
dragonking3:Shut up! A written statement on oath is evidence. She may have witnesses that also is evidence! She may also plead the accused conduct towards her e.g giving her large amounts of money. Playing her bill. Sending her on luxury trips as part of her evidence! Where do people sign agreement to marry? 1 Like |
Re: Why I Believe Stephanie Otobo Is Lying Against Apostle Sulieman by dragonking3: 4:59pm On Mar 15, 2017 |
sweatlana:Dont ever quote me again if you dont have sense and dont know how the rule of law works. Stop displaying your stupidity on nairaland. https://guardian.ng/features/the-breach-of-promise-to-marry-and-its-legal-consequences/ http://www.lawreform.ie/_fileupload/consultation%20papers/wpbreachofpromise.htm
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Re: Why I Believe Stephanie Otobo Is Lying Against Apostle Sulieman by Alphamale2017(m): 5:11pm On Mar 15, 2017 |
fratermathy:lol u are the one thinking with ur ass , now listen to me, first of all he gives money to his members too so let me quickly correct that. The choir master in omega had to return the jeep he bought for him saying he wants a lessser one with less maintenance cost, and he bought him another in less than 2 weeks. This same apostle prophised to a student in auchi polythechnic, prayed for him, gave him 500k and told one of his pastors to bring one golf car from his garage and give to him. This nor be them say. I have seen the golf, red in colour. The guy was not even a member, he was a catholic , apostle only went to their school to preach. Also in the crusade in benin last year. A girl left samuel ogbemudia staduim with over 1 million naira cash, he gave her one of his escort police van to drive her and give her security till she gets to the bank , all this i am telling u are not them say. This is first hand xperience. You claiming he send huge millions to a prostitute does not automatically translate to payment for sex. Someone can help u with huge money and yet wint have sex with u , its hard to believe becos u are a product of a bleeped generation with perverted thinking who find it hard to help a girl without having sex with her, if u watch celebration tv , the ministry's official tv channel. U will see that there are countless girls abroad who he has sent money to lots of people into prostitution for them to come back home , some stay over 10 yrs without making anything, and he sends them money to fly back home to nigeria then when u come, the ministry record ur story on a tape and show on their tv channel to discourage people from travelling abroad by landing and going into prostitution. She said the relationship lasted from 2015. So u want to tell me that for 2 years u do not have a pix with ur patner while chilling abroad, are u a learner ? U said he did introduction in delta state , then changed ur story line and said it was in his office. Really ? Office ? , and yet no single pix of the introduction ceremony. Nigerians are wack sha. If u could believe in mmm with their destiny then its very easy to sell this story to the same slowpoke. The details in this story are too incoherent to be true, 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why I Believe Stephanie Otobo Is Lying Against Apostle Sulieman by dragonking3: 5:14pm On Mar 15, 2017 |
Alphamale2017:Dont mind the numerous idiots were full nairaland. 1 Like |
Re: Why I Believe Stephanie Otobo Is Lying Against Apostle Sulieman by fratermathy(m): 5:27pm On Mar 15, 2017 |
Alphamale2017: So is the prostitute his church member? Or he magically knew her in far away Canada? How else can a prostitute and a stripper be known? Is the pastor going around looking for prostitutes to convert? I never saw her say they did any introduction in all the videos I watched. If you have a video of her saying such, kindly present the link for verification. That assertion is a concoction of Suleiman's pervert imagination. She only claimed he promised her marriage and that was all. She released a photo of his lustful face, smiling to Otobo's breasts and his worshippers claimed it was a photoshop. Kindly present the original photo from where his faceshot was taken from or was the photo created by El Rufai and Otobo? She said Okeke was his mistress and we ended up seeing his name turn up in the ownership of a car associated with Okeke only for the name to go off barely 48 hours later and his worshippers did not suspect foul play. Since you have become his mouthpiece, kindly respond to the above!!! Suleiman is complicit and he has done NOTHING to vindicate himself. Calling out and blaming the devil and phantom enemies is an age-old religious strategy that only indoctrinated bigots fall for. May I also remind you that what he purportedly had with her was an affair in which secrecy was of paramount importance. You don't expect both of them to snap photos and put on the internet, not when he hasn't divorced his wife to marry her. However, she does claim to have pictures of him holding his private organs, I reckon from a screen-grabbed video chat. You worshippers should be very careful when defending these pastoral rascals. This story may turn out to be true with the way Suleiman has been handling it. Better remove the wool in your brain and understand that no man is infallible. Even Jesus was tempted and supposedly doubted his mission on earth. Suleiman is no Jesus. He is a mere mortal who thinks himself an "Oracle"! He has urges like every other man and if his wife cannot satisfy him, no one knows what can happen. So think very well and open your mind. There are dots on both Otobo's and Suleiman's part of the story but one thing is certain... They were both in sexual cahoots with each other. In other words, he shined her congo! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why I Believe Stephanie Otobo Is Lying Against Apostle Sulieman by fratermathy(m): 5:36pm On Mar 15, 2017 |
dragonking3: Can't you see the irony in calling people "idiots" when you and your ilk are actually the ones defending an ordinary man who has not been able to prove his innocence is a case of sexual misconduct with a lady. Ms. Otobo has revealed her part with some proof and even offered herself for investigation. She acknowledged the presence of more proofs even. Whatever her reasons are or whether she was sent or not are inconsequential as long as she has verifiable proofs. Suleiman, on the other hand, appealed to religious sentiments and the idiocy in all his worshippers rather than rationally defending himself or shutting the hell up. He claimed she is terrorist without proof. He said he knows her as a prostitute and stripper yet conceded to giving her money which Otobo confirmed to the tone of millions of naira. He said he is being persecuted without drawing any logical or direct link between Otobo's case and whatever political problems he may have. His worshippers argue with emotions, rather than reason even with all the obvious missing dots. Any rational mind will be careful of defending the man even when such person is open to the idea of his innocence. Even at that, the lady has not done anything but prove her case and showing her willingness to prove it further, which I believe she will. So be honest with yourself and ask who the real idiots are in this altercation. Those who saw the facts and the pastor's lame excuse and attempts at damage control and decided to take the rational side while keeping their minds open to the pastor's innocence if he can prove his case or those who just assume he is innocent out of emotional and religious sentiments simply because he is a "pastor" and rule out ANY possibility of the accusation being true? The answer is glaringly obvious. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why I Believe Stephanie Otobo Is Lying Against Apostle Sulieman by dragonking3: 5:56pm On Mar 15, 2017 |
fratermathy:What you dont understand is that before you lay an accusation you must provide evidence. Now supporting someone who hasnt provided any tangible evidence especially in a serious issue like this is pitiful. Some people dont know about defamation law, others dont know about the law to the breach of promise to marry but you see them talking and supporting a prostitute who hasnt provided proof. Is such not ignorant? According to the rule of law, Apostle suleman is innocent until proven guilty. Abi no be so? Yes or No? So this isnt a case of me alsways supporting pastors( i didnt support the coza pastor then as there were evidences provided) but in this case where are the evidence? |
Re: Why I Believe Stephanie Otobo Is Lying Against Apostle Sulieman by fratermathy(m): 6:07pm On Mar 15, 2017 |
dragonking3: There was absolutely no evidence presented by Ese Walter in the COZA saga. What she did was just more of a statement and that was enough for people to believe her. So stop lying. Secondly, Suleiman has been accusing people of different things in his church without any proof whatsoever. He arrested Otobo and charged her for terrorism without proof. He said El Rufai was behind his travails and did not provide any proof whatsoever. So he and his worshippers can't swallow his own bitter pill? When Ms. Otobo came out with her claims and the photo, someone else found the link between him and Okeke as Otobo confessed. Otobo also accepted to provide more evidence in court should the need arise. However, Suleiman NEVER filed a suit for libel and presented his case in any way. The case in court now was filed by Otobo against Suleiman. Suleiman never filed any suit against Otobo or Sahara Reporters for defamation of his character. If I was a public figure and a random lady comes to defame my character, I will file a suit that will lock her up for all eternity. The only reason why I may not do so is if she has something tangible against me. If he was so sure of his innocence, why keep quiet without speaking out. Why not go to court and prove your innocence. Why not convince sceptics of your innocence. Nobody knows Otobo from adams and we have no emotional sentiment to believe her over the pastor but the pastor has simply refused to do basic things to prove his innocence. The prostitute has made the claims and released a picture. She has mentioned Okeke's name and that has been collaborated with evidence. The "apostle" claims to know her as a prostitute and conceded giving her money yet failed to absolve himself of any wrongdoing in the matter. Until he comes out with the truth or at least, a rational argument, he remains complicit. He was in sexual cahoots with the lady! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why I Believe Stephanie Otobo Is Lying Against Apostle Sulieman by Alphamale2017(m): 6:13pm On Mar 15, 2017 |
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Re: Why I Believe Stephanie Otobo Is Lying Against Apostle Sulieman by Alphamale2017(m): 6:21pm On Mar 15, 2017 |
fratermathy:how did they meet the other prostitute that they have been helping an showing on the church tv even before, the evidence of the car to okeke maybe true but how true is the story tied to the evidence ? The case of joseph the evidence was true , the shirt submited by portiphars wife was true, how true was the story she tied along with the evidence, if joseph was in this generation we will all have killed him. Becos the shirt was obviously his own. The evidence naybe true . But how true is the story tied to it ?? |
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